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wjrii , (edited )

Dana Bash from CNN actually stating what should be obvious. Paraphrasing:

We’re covering this because it’s racist. We’re talking about memes that say people of color will eat your pets. That’s racism.

smokebuddy , (edited )

it’s also another time he might be mistaking an episode of King of the Hill for real life, like the low-flow toilet flushing… after all he did say “he saw people on TV” talking about it

spankmonkey , (edited )

These hosts are absolutely awful. Every time he rambles and lies, they give Harris a new topic. Occasionally they ask a question and barely point out that he didn’t answer it.

The hosts need to hold him to a debate, not let him play it like a Trump rally.

Harris is doing fantastic.

AlexanderESmith ,

They called him out on that insane 9mo abortion nonsense, and the people eating pets.

Honestly, that's the moon compared to usual.

spankmonkey ,

They half heartedly disagreed and let him repeat it again, just like they won’t correct him every time he lies about immigrant crime. It might be slightly better than past debates, but they are absolutely letting him run the show.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, that’s the moon compared to usual.

Real

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Everything he said is a lie. They would spend the whole debate rebutting him.

spankmonkey ,

Nah, actually correct him and mute his mic and he would storm off the stage like a giant baby.

barsquid ,

This is what should happen. Blatant lie means you lose time for corrections.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

It’s really infuriating. Every time he’s asked a question, and she gets a rebuttal, he just starts rebutting her rebuttal and they just let him. And half the time what he’s says has nothing to do with the question that was asked. They cut Kamala off pretty much every time.

dylanmorgan ,

They should have gotten this guy to moderate.

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/b282d5d3-8d89-45fb-80b8-bc0f203ab204.gif

spankmonkey , (edited )

Oh look, Harris wanted to respond out of turn one time and the hosts shut her down after letting Trump interrupt all night.

It really deems like he has been allowed to talk for twice the time as Harris. Anyone keeping track?

ape_arms ,
spankmonkey ,

Wow, his 15% more time that he was able to get by interrupting and not shutting up when his time was up sure felt a lot longer than it was.

sh00g ,

This is the first time we have seen moderators actually fact check Trump live. I’ll take that in spite of the interruptions.

spankmonkey ,

They were meek and let him talk over them. I guess more than zero is better than nothing, but it is a pretty low bar.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

PBS has a lady on who says congresspeople are contacting her and basically saying, “why couldn’t it have been Nikki Haley?!”

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I’ve had that same question for Republican primary voters for some months.

barsquid ,

Because Nimarata doesn’t excite the core Repub voting base (christofascist bigots) so she would never win the general election.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trump on what to do to fight climate change: “They lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month. They’re building auto plants owned by China in Mexico and they think they can sell their cars in the U.S. because of these people. We’ll put tarriffs on those cars so they don’t enter the country because it will kill any auto worker. What they have done to business and manufacturing is horrible. Biden doesn’t go after people because China paid him millions of dollars. Him and his son. Ukraine gave him money. All these countries give him money. Why is he so loyal to Ukraine? The wife of the mayor of Moscow gave him money!”

Yes, he asked why Biden is so loyal to Ukraine.

SnotFlickerman , (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That such an absolute dumbfuck has a chance to become President (again no less for fucks sake!) is a god damned indictment on our system.

ConHoliousDonFrankle ,

This

More than anything, I’m embarrassed as an American that shit has gone this far, and we have to listen to Coherent Cathy for a third election.

HottieAutie ,

Biden is loyal to Ukraine because the wife of the mayor of Moscow gave gim money. The wife of the mayor of the capital city of the country that invaded Ukraine gave Biden money for him to use the US government support Ukraine against Russia. Makes perfect sense 👌

barsquid ,

Needs a fact check that Donald received millions from China.

lambda ,
@lambda@programming.dev avatar

That handshake spoke a lot.

peopleproblems ,

She was getting that handshake.

That was her warning shot that it was her stage.

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

The main problem with the debate is that the audience that is listening has to actually also be SANE.

If you have nutjobs listening to all this … they’ll love Trump no matter how reasonable Harris may sound.

The trouble has been, is and will always be … the general intelligence of the US population.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Remember, Trump needs more than the MAGA faithful to win. Only a small number of people need to be swung by this and I can’t believe this will turn anyone against Harris.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

If she could get 3% more in every state, it would be a landslide. She would win Florida and Texas at that rate going off 2020 numbers.

HubertManne ,

now their eating the pets

Easyreever , (edited )

What the actual fuck was that? Did he actually just say that!!!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. They’ve been pushing this crazy racist lie that Haitians in Ohio are eating people’s pets.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

My spouse was looking into it and apparently it stems from an American citizen who did something to their own dog. So they are trying to spin some crazy citizen as being done by the people he uses to rile up the racist voters.

HottieAutie ,

According to Trump, leaders all over the world are calling and going to see Trump to laugh at the USA.

So like, which ones? Which leaders are visiting Trump to laugh at the USA? And why is he accepting them over and over? Why are world leaders wasting their time laughing at the USA with Trump? Tell us, Trump!

SeaJ ,

Probably only Orban who is batshit.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

I think he has support from North Korea, Russia, Hungary, and Turkey possibly. He doesn’t have the support of Germany, France, UK, Canada, Spain… Nevermind I don’t have all night

mycodesucks ,
@mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar

Hardly worth mentioning at this point, but this is illegal.

HubertManne ,

woa baby. her response on afganistan is good. damn. oh snap.

MrGabr ,
@MrGabr@ttrpg.network avatar

Am I the only one who saw her almost call him a bastard

Blackbeard , (edited )
@Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

I heard, “This…motherfu-- former president.”

HootinNHollerin , (edited )

Yea it was definitely bastard lol she has way more restraint than I could ever

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar
peopleproblems ,

Ah, we’re in the endgame now.

xmunk ,

God fucking damn JD Vance is fucking vapid.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

What’d he do now?

xmunk ,

His post debate commentary can be summed up as “Why didn’t Harris talk about any of the things she talked about and why hasn’t she fixed the economy from her completely ceremonial role.”

It’s like he didn’t watch the fucking debate at all.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

Oh. Thankfully I’ve managed to avoid that.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

and why hasn’t she fixed the economy from her completely ceremonial role

While that’s a bullshit accusation from him, it’d also be almost as much so if he had been talking about Biden. Presidents aren’t really what drive most economic changes, yet are regularly blamed for or credited with it by the public, and politicians regularly take advantage of that. What Vance is doing pretty par for the course. That isn’t to say that the practice of exploiting it isn’t disappointing, but it’s not like what he’s doing is all that unique.

TropicalDingdong ,

Missed this one. Anyone got the highlights? Lowlights?

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
xmunk ,

Ey et er dergs!

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

For those who didn’t watch, ^that isn’t like stupid internet humor… Trump was literally complaining about that on stage.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

And then doubled down when fact checked.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Just look at this thread by Top, you’ll get some of the highlights that were said

Cadeillac , (edited )
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

highlights

Just about everything Harris said

lowlights

EVERYTHING Trump said. Some of it was so absurd it was funny, but that is dangerous when there are people that will follow him unconditionally

Edit: just read all of FlyingSquid’s comments for the details

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trump on Afghanistan: “If you take a look at when I was president, the Taliban killed lots of our soldiers with snipers. I got involved with them because they’re the fighting force. And Abdul is the head of the Taliban and I told Abdul not to do it anymore and he asked why I sent him a picture of his house and I told him to figure that out. Mike Pompeo negotiated the exit, but we wouldn’t have done it the way Biden did it. They left beautiful new equipment behind. They didn’t do what the agreement said. It was terminated because they didn’t do. They did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country and that’s why Russia attacked Ukraine.”

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Just uhhh, leaving this here…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibatullah_Akhundzada

Mullah Hibatullah Akhundzada,[a] also spelled Haibatullah Akhunzada,[b] is an Afghan cleric who is the supreme leader of Afghanistan in the internationally unrecognized Taliban regime. He has led the Taliban since 2016, and came to power with its victory over U.S.-backed forces in the 2001–2021 war.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, but Abdul makes all the decisions.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I can, honestly, with the second spelling, (Haibatullah) see how maybe someone pronounced it correctly near him, and he’s such a fucking idiot that all he genuinely heard was “abdul”

Cadeillac ,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

There is a deputy listed named Abdul. Probably can’t fathom that a leader wouldn’t want to deal with him directly. You know leaders come and visit him all the time, they call him

xmunk ,

Trump was actually just offering to list Abdul’s house on Zillow.

magnetosphere ,
@magnetosphere@lemmy.world avatar

I’m experiencing so many conflicting emotions right now. Horrified, amused, enthusiastic, resigned…

There’s smoke coming out of my ears, and I smell a burning clutch from constantly shifting gears.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I was anxious as fuck going in. By the end of Trump’s first response, I knew he’d lost and I sat back and enjoyed the stupid.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

The fact checking live to his face had him losing it. And that irritated head shake every time they quoted him. So beautiful.

twistypencil ,

ABC needs to let Harris respond instead of constantly letting Trump respond and not her

Routhinator ,
@Routhinator@startrek.website avatar

Yeah it’s getting pretty old now.

Today ,

And calling him President!

KnightontheSun ,

Former presidents are still called president.

But it still makes me wince.

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