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Veneroso ,

K-Hive is ready baby!

Buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

BigMacHole ,

The DNC NEVER listens to what the People Want so I don’t know how to Feel about this.

krashmo ,

Your use of capital letters is confusing as hell

OldWoodFrame ,

After the Schumer leak, this had to happen.

It has to be Kamala and anyone thinking otherwise is dumb.

And I don’t know if Kamala can win. I don’t know if she could do better than Joe would do. But I know she’ll do better than what would happen if Joe had a second debate like the first debate.

If nothing else, this keeps it close.

kandoh ,

This feels very energizing. I think you’ll see democrats get a lot more excited about the election now. They’ll have a great time watching the talking heads arguing over who should be VP. The contrast between team hold-onto-power-no-matter-what and team democrat will not be missed on low information voters.

merc ,

she’ll do better than what would happen if Joe had a second debate like the first debate.

Or, what would happen if there was no second debate, which I’m sure is what the Republicans were planning for. Why consider a second debate when the only thing it could do is make Biden look better? They would have used every rule and excuse to get out of having a second debate so that the only image voters had of Biden was from the first one.

ceenote ,

It was like pulling teeth for awhile, but Joe Biden deserves to be recognized for his humility. That’s not common in politicians at that level.

Varyk , (edited )

Fair amount of schadenfreude at the panic right now, having been shouted down for weeks for telling people they should stop self-indulgently and anxiously begging Biden to step aside, since he already beat Trump and has gained a lot of allies through progressive legislation.

I’m very curious who the DNC is going to dredge up since the only person who could unite the left is Bernie Sanders and the DNC has previously explicitly declined him.

Enjoy laying in the bed you’ve made, every short-sighted doofer who asked for this.

kandoh ,

You guys have delusional views on Bernie Sanders.

Varyk ,

In what way?

kandoh ,

You think he’s more popular than he is, younger than he is, and more unwilling to compromise his values than he is.

Varyk ,

Zero out of three for you.

You’re projecting.

I know the first two and there is plenty of counterevidence for the third.

Popular - he is

Old - doesn’t matter

Compromises values - mountains of counterevidence over half a century of progressive politics.

Do you have any evidence to suggest relevance to your comment?

criitz ,

Bernie is popular with the left (including me) but not Democrats at large (and definitely not with the right). He didn’t get nearly enough support in 2016 to make it. He’s definitely not one to compromise his values though, I don’t know where the commenter got that idea.

Varyk , (edited )

If he was endorsed by the DNC, I doubt he would have any trouble sweeping the election.

Perfect for trump too, he confounds and infuriates the conservatives but can’t be flapped.

There’s some dumb “not enough” crap kooks are spreading about AOC and Sanders not being left for not literally firebombing the white house over Palestine.

Such a ridiculous remark is likely tangential to that or a similar fabrication.

kandoh ,

Popular — he lost to Hilary Clinton

Old — clearly age does matter

Compromises values — Voted for the ACA with no public option (which he promised he wouldn’t do)

Varyk ,

Wildly wrong again, keep swinging.

  1. Incorrect and irrelevant
  2. Incorrect, especially now.
  3. He literally voted to help millions of people access healthcare. Which are his consistent values.

Geez, you’re terrible at this.

kandoh ,

Citations needed

callouscomic ,

If he was gonna do this, why not announce it a year ago? Idiotic lack of political savvy. RBG levels of idiocy clinging to your post and ignoring the greater good.

I love the chaos. Everyone can now have a candidate they didn’t really ever vote for, and it’ll be appalling if THIS is the way we finally get the first woman president.

jumjummy ,

Now watch all the “I’m a leftist” people using Genocide Joe pivot over to some other talking point as soon as Putin gives them marching orders via Fox News.

Toastypickle ,

For fucks sake. We’re fucked

kandoh ,

We’re so fucking back!

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Nah. This is a good thing.

Plume , (edited )
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

People. We, the French, pulled a left-wing coalition out of our asses in less than a week and managed to “win” an election. You have months. Hope is permitted.

kandoh ,

I think you’ll start to see a lot more excitement in the next few weeks.

Tacos_y_margaritas ,

I’m already noticing a lot of hype for Kamala 🤞

peopleproblems ,

I mean, ok, what’s not to hype? The second Black president, but in two centuries, it would be the first woman. The right’s heads will collectively explode if she wins.

assassin_aragorn ,

Mmmm you know this would be quite the upside

NewAgeOldPerson ,

Can someone find the “hope is kindled” gif from LoTR Return of the King? When Pipin lights the beacon of Minas Tirith. I can’t find it.

Wiz ,

…fanpop.com/…/Gandalf-ian-mckellen-42765123-300-2…

morphballganon ,

Why’d you put “win” in quotes?

magnor ,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

Because we only have a relative majority and now Macron is teaming up with the hard right (not the far right, the other right right that is not center right… Yeah, too much right is wrong) to deprive us of any path to government. Shit sucks. But it could have sucked way harder.

Pronell ,

It’s also a strategic moderate move to keep the hard right from merging with Reform.

I’m hoping the left wing parties aren’t locked out and still able to get progress made.

Ooops ,
@Ooops@feddit.org avatar

Cuddling up to the hard right might look like a strategical move but it never works. Normalising them only shifts the discussion further to the right. And let’s face it… in this post-factual time where all that matters is the narratives, giving them a platform will only help to brain-wash more people into believing into right-wing fake-solutions to actual problems.

xav ,

Because, well, the left coalition came out ahead of the vote but then started to loose ground to political shenanigans. War is not over but a significant battle was lost.

taiyang ,

It’s very true. We’ve been brainwashed into a year long campaign mostly because it generates a lot of money for various parties but prior elections have proven it’s mostly what happens in the last month that makes a difference.

Y’all are lucky you can make coalitions, though. This is more akin to your election if you only had centrists and far right running. Two party system and all that.

mosiacmango ,

“Hope and change” is back in it to win it.

Motherfucking Obama at it again.

Marand ,

Lol, Obama comming back would be incredible. Is he even allowed to? He already served two terms

Osito ,

He’s not allowed to but people are saying Michelle could be the pick, but that would only be marginally better than Kamala

They need Gretchen, Pete, or Kelly

Serinus ,

Jon Stewart. Someone go pull him and make him do it. There’s no one better to take down Trump.

tamal3 ,

He’d be miserable the whole time, but we’d all be better off. Please Jon!

whoisearth ,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

I mean I’d love it and I’m going back and forth on this comment. His biggest negative is those who lean right will see him exactly as he is “a New York Jew”

That said, who better to trounce Trump and humiliate his ass? I think the only thing better would be Michelle Obama. Trump would lose his absolute shit debating and/or losing to a woman let alone a black woman.

Watch that fucker drop the N bomb in a debate against her lol

merc ,

A 2-woman ticket would never work. It’s going to be very dicey having a woman leading the ticket with a man as VP, given how sexist the US electorate is.

slackassassin ,

What’s sexist is going on and on about how a woman is unelectable.

merc ,

Yes, reality is sexist. But, you can’t just live in a fantasy land.

slackassassin ,

A friend of mine was running a restaurant, and before a major business meeting, her 2nd said that he should do all the talking because the other party was sexist and wouldn’t listen to a woman.

She fired his ass, rightfully. That is not what progress looks like. Step up and fight against sexism, don’t concede to that shit.

catloaf ,

We don’t really do coalitions here. Our voting system doesn’t allow for it.

It does happen within Congress itself though, when different sects of the two parties cross the aisle to join with the other party on certain issues. But since Congress doesn’t elect a prime minister, it doesn’t happen for the presidency.

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I know. You’re missing my point. :)

My point wasn’t the coalition. My point was that we had 21 days to cobble something together and not only did we do it, we managed to win with it. It’s not about the coalition, it’s about building a campaign. You have months to do so.

And you’re about to say that Trump had way longer to do so. Yes. So did the far right in our country, which barely even campaigned because all of the media were doing so on their behalf for the last two years and we still managed to outnumber them.

Trust me, my faith in the Democrats is barely existent. But still, I think it can be done.

slurpeesoforion ,

Viva la France

ChaoticEntropy ,
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

It’s a binary choice in the US presidential election, that isn’t even based on the popular vote.

sunzu ,

The regime provides two choices, people do a circle jerk, regime gets their candidate.

Win win!

Unless you work for money

Hammocks4All ,

Lord have merci

merc ,

A “long” election campaign in the UK is 6 weeks. In 1992 they had one that was just 30 days.

Months is plenty of time, especially in the modern world. Maybe 250 years ago it was necessary to campaign for months on end so that the candidate could personally travel by train to every state. But, with modern media (both traditional and social), there’s no real reason for campaigns to be as long as they are. The only reason they’re this long is that the thought is that the earlier you start campaigning, the better. So, each side keeps starting earlier and earlier, making it effectively into a neverending campaign cycle.

Draedron ,

America has no left wing. The dems have now handed Trump the win since its way too late to change the candidate and Harris is completely invisible

JasonDJ ,

So we need a French immigrant to help fix the government?

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/b3c902fa-545b-41ca-9459-637393a64408.webp

assassin_aragorn ,

Well spoken.

A few months in politics is an eternity. Yes, things are chaotic right now, but this is short term. We can unify after this. And we can win.

Angry_Autist ,

You, the French, have not been the target of a 40 year war against public education by the right wing. Americans are on average significantly less capable of rational thought because of it. Source: I am an American raised in the crippled education system I mentioned before.

Wiz ,

Thank you, French. You’re awesome. I was losing hope, and yet a miracle happened.

Good job.

morphballganon , (edited )

https://i.postimg.cc/3J20n9kQ/prezposter.png

Wytch ,

Spend some more time with the family, Joe. Thanks for grabbing the wheel, there. We’ll take it from here.

ichbinjasokreativ ,

All I know about Harris is from a youtube short where she was just being super weird about that catchphrase of hers.

She’s got no chance against trump and his cult of personality. Noone’s going to be passionate about her.

WoahWoah ,

She’s a nothing-burger. If she is the candidate, we have all the same problems, except we don’t have a reasonable excuse for why she can’t speak coherently. But it’s her turn!

Rentlar ,

we don’t have a reasonable excuse for why she can’t speak coherently.

Which has been half of the Republican smear campaign taglines for more than the last 6 months.

Biden being unable to speak well is not a reasonable excuse to not go to the polls, but now voters don’t have that. It’s up to them now to accept or reject Trump for what he is. It’s time to stop taking “…but but but [nominee] is unelectable!” as a response.

WoahWoah ,

Arguably with no confirmed nominee and the presumptive candidate withdrawing from the race, now is precisely the time to be deciding who is most electable.

Rentlar ,

I agree, but in terms of whether it will be met with slander, it doesn’t matter who the DNC picks. Even if a candidate with the cleanest record and the noblest and most inoffensive intentions were to exist, arguments will be made as to why they are unelectable. (Low-energy? Too aggressive? Too radical? Too bureaucratic?, so on and so forth).

kandoh ,

People will be very passionate about abortion access, which is all the election will be about for over half the population

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Could be, but idk if people care about it that much outside of social media. We’ll see.

Emperor ,
@Emperor@feddit.uk avatar

He should step down now citing his health after getting Covid. You would then have the first female president.

Kusimulkku ,

Makes me giggly thinking of all the comments about how his age was a nothingburger

Peppycito ,

Time for that phrase to be retired.

Kusimulkku ,

It’ll hang on until last moment before doing that

Cold_Brew_Enema ,

Whelp, we’re fucked. Get ready for project 2025. This country is done.

chuckleslord ,

Hardly, but I do understand the sentiment. Really wish we’d had an actual primary, but oh well. We’ve definitely got this, people know how bad the cheeto is.

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