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catbum ,

I got the email at work this afternoon, and boy did I let out a sigh, not so much in relief, but in hope. Good for you for finishing your presidency on top, Biden. I hope he, Harris, and their staff are seeing the (general) commendation in communities like this. I really hope we can rally people to get behind Harris; I think it will be so much less of an uphill battle now to get the indifferent and the disillusioned and the “but they’re both old” voters out there with confidence.

I was holding back on donating, but I want to pitch in now. Does anyone know if you can donate as an employee of a federal contractor (i.e. I don’t hold the contract or a subcontract, I get paid by the contractor like any other employee, but my badge does say “contractor”). I can’t find a confirmatory answer online, and I don’t want to make a compromising donation since “not a federal contractor” is a requirement in the ActBlue fine print.

TokenBoomer ,

It’s murky. It’s best to research or ask. Don’t jeopardize your situation.

catbum ,

Thanks for the link! The prudent thing would be for me to just not donate monetarily. As you said, no sense in jeopardizing my situation over what would maybe be $100.

As far as I can tell, political activity outside the building in which I work should be fine as a contractor employee and not a directly hired government employee. Maybe I can just offer to shuttle people to/from polling locations when the time comes!

clutchtwopointzero ,

This whole Biden stepping down vs Trump saga is a metaphor for the American baby boomer generation’s approaches to their own reckoning of their old age and their reluctance to pass down the torch to another generation.

PersnickityPenguin ,

Oh God yes, and it is reflected in my own family members who are all in their 70s. They strongly believe that a 70 or 80 year old is in “the prime of their life” and that “I have never been of sharper mind and more capable than at the age of 74.”

Just totally delusional. “Me” generation indeed.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking.

I feel really bad for Biden. There’s more that he wants to do. But he’s gotten too old to be able to do those things. But he’s accepted it, and he should be respected for that.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’m nervous. Biden was a flawed candidate, but he already beat Trump once and had the incumbent advantage. Harris was a very unpopular candidate in 2020, and it’s unknown if any other candidate will do better against Trump. But since Biden chose to do this, there’s no doubt he made the right decision for him.

padge ,

As far as I can tell based on articles I’ve read, he really wanted to run, but the party was getting divided over calls for him to step down. He must have figured that the infighting would take away his incumbent advantage

HiddenLife ,

They were losing donors. Unfortunately, without money, forget it.

PersnickityPenguin ,

Technically, she is an incumbent too, right?

Warjac ,

So this is it. We’re doomed if Project 2025 happens

Carlo ,

Let’s fucking do this. Let’s smash these fascist fuckwits.

sentientity ,

Yessss

AA5B ,

I respect the decision and it means he goes out on top. It must have been a difficult decision, but he was one of the better presidents (I see an historian pol ranking him 14th best) and I believe history will remember him even better. I wish Joe Biden all the best in retirement.

Now comes the hard part. How do we avoid him having to say “I told you so”? How do we avoid repeating the disaster of the worst ranked President in history?

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah I think Joe Biden is basically the Clement Attlee of US Presidents.

Who’s Clement Attlee? Some random guy that defeated Winston Churchill in the election just after Germany was defeated in WWII. “A modest man that has a great deal to be modest about.” Such a nobody that his own party wanted to remove him immediately after he was elected.

If you want to see his photo you can enter “best prime minister in uk history” into your preferred search engine.

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

I was not turning out for Joe. Even if its Harris im voting now. Id prefer it not be Harris, but a much younger president, starting a first term of hopefully 2, we’re definitely taking back some Court seats.

Cool_Name ,

Yep, I’ll pokemon go to the polls now. Harris would not be my first pick, but it would be dumb for me to demand that biden step down and still not vote when my demand is met.

Democrats have listened to their voters and they deserve to be rewarded for that.

HiddenLife ,

It’s not like there’s another choice at this time. She’s there and likely has the donor money. The campaign team is assembled and working. It’s really the only option at this point. It’s either Joe or Harris. I admire you for recognizing that this is a win, and we need to take it and move forward.

GiddyGap ,

I would have turned out for Joe, no question. Any day. I’ll also turn out for Harris or any of the other Democratic frontrunners. The alternative is Trump.

zer0squar3d ,

I wanted to see AOC but she isn’t old enough. Lol

lemonmelon ,

Can we put that misinformation to bed, please? Her birthday is before the election, which by definition is before inauguration day. Unless you think she’s going to suddenly Benjamin Button, she meets the qualification.

zer0squar3d , (edited )

To be put on the ballot to BE elected you need to be 35. What are you talking about misinformation?

Edit: you can’t declare Candidancy without being 35. Stop spreading misinformation.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

What’s your source for that?

blahsay ,

Harris has less chance than Biden. Literally just grab a Labrador, put a blue tie on him and let him do the job - better chance getting elected than Harris.

verdantbanana ,
@verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

Bless the Harts S02E12 The Dogchurian Candidate

yeahiknow3 ,

Idk why you’re being downvoted, this is undeniable. To be clear, I don’t mind her. But most people find her bland and irritating. She has no personality.

LemmyLingo ,

I’m seriously looking forward to the HBO drama about the first election campaign, Jan 6th, the Biden presidency, and then the second campaign in twenty years. It’s gonna go so hard.

ImpressiveEssay ,

Well guys… Have you seen Trump’s mental decline since he last ran?! How old is he now?

Surely nobody would be dumb enough to vote someone that old into office now… That is… What we have been saying? Right guys?

Blackmist ,

Yeah, but they don’t care. They don’t want a competent and coherent president. They want Trump, because he hates the same people they hate, and he’s not afraid to say so.

The teams don’t play by the same rules and never have.

HiddenLife ,

It’s not those people we have to worry about. It’s the ones in the middle who sway one way or another. They care enough that Trump lost last time.

ziltoid101 ,
@ziltoid101@lemmy.world avatar

Can’t mentally decline if you were never sound of mind in the first place!

Furbag ,

Oh boy, I can’t wait for armchair pundits who were calling for Joe to step down to now turn around and start to nitpick Harris as if that wasn’t going to be the obvious successor.

I’m 100% behind Harris or anyone who gets the Dem nom. Trump must be stopped.

This is still a battle for America’s soul. Are we going to accept the first female president or the first convicted felon president? I sure hope the left turns out for this one, even if they aren’t super stoked about it, because we might never recover from another Trump disaster.

verdantbanana ,
@verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

and this is exactly why Trumps exist

one party is actively tearing down society and the other is complacent and the voters eat it up

Bernie_Sandals ,
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

Name literally one thing democrats are complacent on and don’t actively want to reform.

verdantbanana ,
@verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

minimum wage stuck $7.25

cannabis legalization stalled decades ago

women’s rights

police reform

Hoomod ,

courthousenews.com/democrats-push-for-17-minimum-…

Democrats push for $17 minimum wage

apnews.com/…/marijuana-biden-dea-criminal-justice…

DEA rescheduling marijuana

… Are you serious about the women’s rights part? Republicans overturned Roe and they’ve lost every election with abortion rights on the ballot since.

You can look up the DeMoNcRaT cities that have started to send crisis response teams instead of cops for certain calls. brennancenter.org/…/state-policing-reforms-george…

Triasha ,

You came with the receipts and they shut up.

Thank you.

zbyte64 ,

It’s not just pundits, Nancy Pelosi wants Harris off the ticket. I already donated to her campaign and called my reps to let them know that’s a bad idea.

yeahiknow3 ,

Harris is an absolute disaster. I’ve no problem with her whatsoever personally, but she has no charm and zero leadership skill. I wish these things didn’t matter but they do.

Wrench ,

Yep. She gets my vote as a living, breathing person that seems healthy enough. I’m not excited to vote for her, and I’m really concerned about our chances with her, but she’s not Trump and automatically gets my vote assuming she gets the nomination.

enbyecho ,

I’ve no problem with her whatsoever personally

Oh, I think you do.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t think leadership skill should matter in a President…?

cabron_offsets ,

I don’t prefer Harris, but am 100% fine with her. Any D 2024. Fuck the republican traitor filth.

Blackmist ,

She’s a very bland candidate, but at least she’s not 80 and fading.

Whether that’s enough to get people up off their arses and into voting booths, I don’t know.

You really need somebody that’s going to invigorate the centre and left, the way Trump excites the right. Dyed in the wool Dems don’t care who the candidate is, they’d have been happy with Biden’s corpse. The issue is there’s not a lot of time left for experimentation in finding one.

yeahiknow3 ,

There’s a shitload of time. We’ve been conditioned to think it takes 2 years to run a presidential campaign. Nonsense.

HiddenLife ,

It’s going to be so crazy now; it’ll feel like years. Just wait and see.

Hoomod ,

A female candidate can put Roe v Wade in the limelight the entire campaign, and that’s a really easy winning message (based on all the special elections since it was overturned)

HiddenLife ,

The Roe v. Wade issue is a strong strategy, and I look forward to her bringing it up continuously.

Olhonestjim ,

I’m not super stoked about her, and I’ll crawl across 5 states filled with broken glass to get back home and vote for her.

ThatOneKrazyKaptain ,
@ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world avatar

Just FYI so you don’t get ‘gotchaed’, Trump isn’t the oldest nominee ever. Neither was Biden. Record is still held by Peter Cooper from the reconstruction era who was 84 when nominated.

ThatOneKrazyKaptain ,
@ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world avatar

(also wild beard on that guy

Valmond ,

Nobody cares, Trump is so old and decripit it’s a miracle he can still walk.

ThatOneKrazyKaptain ,
@ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world avatar

The last thing anybody wants is Trump pulling it out and calling all the headlines lies. Surprised Biden never did actually

Waldowal ,
@Waldowal@lemmy.world avatar

Now that Biden doesn’t care about reelection, what kind of “Official acts” might he do?

Nerrad ,
@Nerrad@lemmy.world avatar

The best kind

AFaithfulNihilist ,
@AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world avatar

Now they have a new excuse of not doing anything important or interesting so they don’t “taint” Harris.

Maggoty ,

Let’s fucking go! Harris 2024!

theacharnian ,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

Netanyahu will try to fuck things up in Gaza as much as possible because he 100% prefers Trump to Harris.

But now Biden is president and not running. Dark Brandon might just be unleashed like never before.

assassin_aragorn ,

This is where Biden remaining president to finish his term is strategically wise. It provides a plausible layer of separation between Harris and Gaza. She can go against Biden and make criticisms – and Biden for his part would need to express disagreement with her.

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