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Trump floats idea of three-term presidency at NRA convention

Donald Trump flirted with the idea of being president for three terms – a clear violation of the US constitution – during a bombastic speech for the National Rifle Association in which he vowed to reverse gun safety measures green-lighted during the Biden administration.

“You know, FDR 16 years – almost 16 years – he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?” The ex-president and GOP presidential frontrunner said to the organization’s annual convention in Dallas, prompting some in the crowd to yell “three!” Politico reported.

Trump has floated a third term in past comments, even mentioning a prolonged presidency while campaigning in 2020. He has also tried distancing himself from this idea, telling Time magazine in April: “I wouldn’t be in favor of it at all. I intend to serve four years and do a great job.”

GiddyGap ,

You know, FDR 16 years – almost 16 years – he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?

Sounds like he’s just questioning whether the current Biden term is actually considered a Trump term. Just the usual election denial from him and the NRA crowd.

bradorsomething ,

I understand his confusion here… the phrase is “consecutive sentences.”

recapitated ,

And all that without even getting slammed or flattened. I guess he got away with it this time.

FakeGreekGirl ,

And that’s a big part of why, despite everything Biden is doing, I am 100% voting for him. Because if Biden wins, there will be a 2028 election where we can hopefully find someone better, and I’m not convinced that there will be under Trump.

Four years of Trump came really close to turning this country into a kakistocratic dictatorship. I really don’t want to give him another chance.

jettrscga ,

Despite what that Biden’s doing exactly? I’ve heard about Israel weapon sales that are now being forced through by republicans as well. What else?

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    stratoscaster ,

    Why not educate someone who is earnestly asking? There is so much information and misinformation, just typing “Biden Israel” into Google and expecting full context is hopeless.

    RememberTheApollo_ ,

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    Xanis ,

    Guys, I think this guy works in News /s. He’s being sensationalist, isn’t actually answering any questions anyone is asking, is focusing on the bad, and is seemingly reaaally determined to get a rise out of someone.

    Eldritch ,

    That’s a very true thing. The problem with search engines anymore. There’s so much money in propaganda and misinformation. Getting on and finding real information as opposed to false information can be a daunting task.

    jettrscga ,

    You fully misunderstood my stance. The person I responded to said “despite everything Biden is doing” as if he’s created other controversy. I was asking what that controversy is.

    TexMexBazooka ,

    They don’t misunderstand , they’re deliberately misconstruing your stance

    GBU_28 ,

    This is a discussion forum, you silly goose.

    retrospectology ,
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    “What else besides literally funding a genocide.”

    Listen to yourself.

    ILikeBoobies ,

    despite everything Biden is doing

    Would imply multiple things

    TexMexBazooka ,

    Proportioned by congress, consistent with 70 years of foreign policy.

    Next

    twack ,

    Plus Biden attempted to block any more aid for Israel and the Republicans rammed it through anyway.

    TexMexBazooka ,

    Shhh no, Biden bad

    Takios ,
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    Not surprised. Republican voters won’t care, Centrists will lay the blame on Biden and Democratic voters who don’t see the full story get discouraged to vote for him.

    brey1013 ,

    Exactly. America funding genocides is inevitable, no matter their elected ‘leader’. Money go brrr.

    Dkarma ,

    House has power of the purse…not Biden.

    UFO64 ,

    But that isn’t the presidents choice.

    retrospectology ,
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    Quite literally is. Look up the basic process by which US bills are passed, you pretty clearly never have.

    UFO64 ,

    The president doesn’t get to unilaterally declare law, he at best has the veto but his job is to forfill the will of the people and by extension Congress.

    If congress orders the money and guns to Israel, he cannot stop them.

    Lost_My_Mind ,

    Literally every president in your lifetime…

    ShepherdPie ,

    there will be a 2028 election where we can hopefully find someone better

    I’ve literally had people utter this to me before every single presidential election that I’ve voted in and it’s never come true. Neither party has any incentive to improve things when they’re guaranteed to get votes because “the other guys are boogeymen!”

    FakeGreekGirl ,

    So when Trump pulls another January 6, but succeeds this time and declares himself president for life, do you think that will make the situation better or worse?

    acetanilide ,

    My concern is that he will run again and again until he dies. Ideally if he won this year he could never run again. Obviously he’s a fascist so he will probably try to stay in (again) but man I am not looking forward to the next 20-50 years of him. And I’m guessing he’s going to live forever at this point.

    AA5B ,

    Trump has visibly diminished in the last 4 years, as has his influence. Now he seems like the tail the dog is wagging but before he called himself the dog. I just don’t see him lasting that long

    Lost_My_Mind ,

    20-50 years??? How young do you think trump is??? 50 years from now he would be 127! 20 years from now he would 97.

    We’re not going to have even 5 years of trump left. Even if he wins and serves a full term. I may be wrong, but I don’t imagine him living to 83.

    acetanilide ,

    Lol true. My point though was that he is The Thing that will never leave

    Lost_My_Mind ,

    For a half second I thought you were calling trump the clay rock superhero from the fantastic four.

    I may have only thought it for a half second, but I’m still already making popcorn. Because of how entertaining it would be to watch you explain how trump is The Thing.

    acetanilide ,

    I hope you have your popcorn! I outsourced the explanation though.

    Imagine Donald Trump as The Thing from the Fantastic Four: an oversized, lumbering figure with an unmistakable, gaudy orange, rock-like exterior. His presence is hard to ignore, not just because of his sheer size and brashness but because he bulldozes through political and social norms with little finesse, much like The Thing smashing through walls.

    In this form, Trump’s bluntness and tendency to overpower conversations mirror The Thing’s raw physicality. His speeches are repetitive and simplistic, hammering his points home in a manner akin to The Thing’s catchphrase, “It’s clobberin’ time!”—straightforward and unsubtle.

    However, just as The Thing struggles with his monstrous appearance, Trump’s public persona is marked by a mix of bravado and thin-skinned sensitivity. His abrasive approach often alienates allies and emboldens critics, making his interactions as rocky as his hypothetical exterior. Both figures are defined by their confrontational nature, but where The Thing’s battles are physical, Trump’s are rhetorical and often divisive.

    ShepherdPie ,

    That’d be quite the feat considering we have the Constitution and Congress. How do you suppose he’d succeed at this considering Trump and Co were basically laughed out of every courtroom when they brought their election fraud cases to court? He doesn’t need to be president for another Jan 6 to happen. He just needs a microphone and a big crowd of pissed off smooth-brains.

    FakeGreekGirl ,

    Who needs courts when you have a cult of personality, a lot of whom have organized into paramilitary groups?

    Even now, the courts are failing to hold him responsible for what he did. They won’t save us. And half of Congress is on his fucking side.

    ShepherdPie ,

    If paramilitary groups are how he seizes control of the government, then it doesn’t really matter whether he was elected or not because you’re talking about outright treason and a civil war, neither of which are predicated on him being elected to office first.

    How can you say “who needs courts” when the courts already shot his election fraud nonsense down in every single case they tried to bring? The trial for J6 has barely begun so how can you claim the outcome already? He was already convicted in the NY civil fraud trial.

    Maybe you should ask yourself why the guy who’s running against him can’t even be bothered to shape himself up when, as you claim, we’re on the verge of far-right paramilitary groups staging a coup if he doesn’t win? How shitty at your job do you have to be that you can’t even win against that?

    FakeGreekGirl ,

    You’re preaching to the choir here. Biden is shit. But, again, at least I know he’ll go away in 4 years. Trump is going to try his damnedest not to. He already fucking tried once. And frankly, the fact that it’s been four years and he’s free to try again is proof enough the courts aren’t doing enough to stop him. There’s a reason they’ve been pushing all this stuff until after election.

    Open your eyes and stop pretending Trump is normal. In nearly 250 years that this country has existed, nobody has tried to pull the shit he’s tried to pull, and he will try it again.

    barsquid ,

    Donald did do an insurrection on his way out in 2021. Oh, did you not vote in 2016? Maybe you are technically correct.

    LibertyLizard ,

    There are generally better things happening under democratic rule than republican rule. I get that it can feel small to those of us who want more radical change but there is a difference.

    But I agree. Radical change is probably not happening from within the current system. Direct action and external pressure will be needed. But there is still a difference in how tolerant the two parties (and also between intra-party factions) will be of such a movement.

    Dark_Arc ,
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    Trump can’t be both “different from everyone else” and “everyone’s worries about the guy are unfounded, he’s just another politician.”

    While I know you didn’t say he’s the same, per se, you might as well by comparing alarms that Obama or Romney are going to be forever presidents to the guy literally “joking” about being a forever president that’s taken possibly criminal steps to subvert the results of an election already.

    It’s not just the fringe paranoid folks saying “this could be the end of democracy as we know it if Trump wins.”

    Socsa ,

    Trump literally already tried to overturn an election, for fuck’s sake.

    AA5B ,

    If Biden wins, then in 2028 he won’t be able to run again, and Trump won’t physically be able to. I’m reasonably confident there will be two “new” choices.

    I’m very happy DeSantis seems to have crashed and burned, Christie had his last hurrah, and no one took Ramiswami seriously, but even Sanders’ age is a passing of the torch.

    So, will you support Harris, Newsom, or AOC to go up against Abbot?

    ShepherdPie ,

    I’d support AOC but Newsom or Harris are more “status quo” Dems so they’ll probably get all the backing from the party in order to prevent a progressive from getting the nomination once again.

    retrospectology , (edited )
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    Why on earth would you think democrats would allow for someone better in 2028? Biden’s win will prove that they can continue propping up fascist extremists and you’ll vote for fascist lite.

    You’re not describing a strategy, you’re describing a slow death.

    ILikeBoobies ,

    Lol

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ll take the lack of an argument as a confirmation that you understand what I said is true. Anyone who’s been alive for more than a single election has witnessed it, it’s pretty undeniable.

    FakeGreekGirl ,

    Even so, still better than a perpetual Trump dictatorship.

    If Trump wins, he will, without a doubt, try again to end American democracy. He did before. And whatever you think of our current situation, at least we have a fucking voice right now.

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s likely not better though, as the longer we let Dmeocrats play dick-grab with the GOP without actually fighting back tooth and nail (like politician’s like Biden are unwilling to do) the more the GOP is able to use their power in a way that’s concealed.

    The reason RvW had a political effect is because it was shocking and too sudden. What will happen if we keep voting the lesser of two evils is people will get more and more acclimated to having their rights stripped away in small ways, rather than witnessing the horror in a way that’s easy to understand.

    Even now, in this discussion, it’s difficult for you to see the pattern that’s occurring from the strategy you’re proposing of fear-based voting.

    It’s uncertain whether a Trump term will allow for the GOP to enact their fascist take-over in full, but continuing to vote for the same milque-toast democrats is 100% a recipe for fascism because they will never reform on their own, and the general public will accept fascism if it comes slowly. I’m not going to try to tell you how to vote, but just own the consequences when they come and don’t try to blame others.

    FakeGreekGirl ,

    You seem to still be thinking in terms of Trump doing a term and going away. He won’t. He proved that on 1/6/2021, and his little jokes and musings now only reinforce it.

    I have every expectation that, if Trump manages to become President again, he is not leaving that office until he dies. He will undo American democracy to keep his power. He already tried before.

    Biden sucks. Democrats suck. You won’t catch me arguing with you there. But Trump is the death of the Republic.

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    Fear-based politics are worthless to me. That is the reason the GOP treats the Democrats as prey, not a threat.

    FakeGreekGirl ,

    THEN STOP WALKING INTO THEIR FUCKING JAWS

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    Literally where we are, right now. The only (slim) chance of getting out is reforming the democratic party and shocking the general public awake.

    Your way has been a proven failure, it’s not an option.

    FakeGreekGirl ,

    And what chance do you think the Democrats are going to have to reform after Donald Trump undoes the entire democratic process and proclaims himself president for life?

    He’s not going to go away quietly. We know this. He proved it on 1/6, and he’s outright saying it out loud again now. Stop pretending he’s just another politician. He’s a wannabe despot, and we need to not give him another chance to become an actual one.

    Look, Biden is garbage. The Democrats are garbage. But at least they’re garbage that play by the fucking rules. If Trump wins, I honestly do not believe we are going to get another chance at this.

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    And what chance do you think the Democrats are going to have to reform after Donald Trump undoes the entire democratic process and proclaims himself president for life?

    There’s no guaruntee he will actually be able to achieve this, it’s actually unlikely. The president is not a king, Project 2025 or not, they aren’t realistically going to be able to keep him in office longer than his term.

    The only way out of this is getting fighters in office and the only way of doing that is making milque-toast “bipartisan” politicians politically unviable. And it is a long shot, but continuing support of the democratic establishment that has produced failure after failure simply will not work, no matter how long people do it. It won’t give us any opening

    Neoliberalism has brought us to this point. It needs to be cast to the side as quickly as possible, not allowed to continue dragging the Democratic party down.

    Look at it this way; Biden is willing to play chicken with our democracy himself, so what does that tell you he and the DNC think the actual immediate threat level is here? They seem pretty confident that it’s no big deal that Biden is neck and neck with Trump. That should be comforting to Biden supporters.

    frunch ,

    Ok, so who do i vote for this year?

    Facebones ,

    And what chance do you think Democrats are going to reform if you reward them for continuing to sprint rightward and enacting all the fascist policies NOW that you keep claiming you’re the only defense from?

    Moving the goalposts any time a third party even comes close to the requirements for inclusion? Check

    Having it legally ruled that voters and donors have no say in the DNC’s picks? Check

    Pushing legislation to remove the red tape from stripping leftist orgs of nonprofit status? Check

    Pushing legislation to make ANY criticism of Israel legally antisemetic so any school that allows protests can be stripped of funding and accreditation? Check

    But at least they’re garbage that play by the rules

    … yes, but do so to further the same fascist agendas.

    lolcatnip ,

    “Doing things that seem reasonable has proven a failure, so now it’s time to try things that are obviously suicidal instead.”

    lolcatnip ,

    So why are you so terrified of Democrats? Seems to me like you’re all about emotion-based politics, including fear.

    Facebones , (edited )

    Hard agree. I’m tired of people saying the only way to avoid fascism is the guy who

    • sidestepped congress multiple times to fund/supply genocide,
    • is pushing legislation to strip leftist orgs of nonprofit status,
    • pushing legislation to make ANY criticism of Israel legally antisemitic so they can strip any college that allows protests of funding and accreditation
    • coming from a party that at the slightest whiff of a challenge had it legally ruled that they do what they want, voters and donors be damned
    • also a party equally complicit in moving the goalposts any time a third party comes close to meeting requirements for inclusion.

    America has always been fascist, ruled by a singular corporate party with two wings. The quiet part is out loud now and even prominent democrats and pundits can’t help themselves but break out all the fascist stops on leftists.

    When democrats and liberals say “we have to stop fascism” they mean “we have to protect my status quo and the fascism that benefits me.”

    Suavevillain , (edited )
    @Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

    It most comes down to maintaining comfort. Liberals have no issue with groups being harmed by state violence from police and other groups when they aren’t the targets. Dems had 4 years to prepare and look forward to what is coming, and the best we have is Joe Biden standing between the status quo and Trump’s full-blown fascism.

    Facebones ,

    They like to ignore that dems have had a few opportunities with the trifecta to actually codify these issues and enact stronger policies against the threats we face now (that were apparent at the time) but the problem is democrats don’t WANT to lock those basic rights issues down because they need the existential threat. Their only platform for like 20 years now has been “not those guys” so if they actually codified (for example) abortion or even better added it to an amendment - They wouldn’t be able to push this narrative that if you don’t vote for milquetoast mid right Biden then you’re actually WORSE than the fascists and you hate women and you’re handing their freedom to “”“the right”“” on a silver platter.

    America has always been a single corporate party system, and both wings of that party are pushing for fascism because it’s the end goal of any capitalist system. It’s just a fight between “marginalized folk are slowly and quietly suppressed so my life continues as normal” fascism or “quiet part out loud day one which I would have to acknowledge” fascism.

    zbyte64 ,

    I don’t even expect Democrats to “learn their lesson” by loosing an election, let alone reform democracy.

    Facebones ,

    They made it clear in 2016, they’d rather the Republicans win than give even an INCH to the left of mid right establishment dems.

    Anise ,

    Voting for Biden is harm reduction. Not voting is just letting the GOP win and voting for Trump is a dumb idea.

    willya ,
    @willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

    Can you type out anything without buzzwords?

    retrospectology ,
    @retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

    Fascism isn’t a buzzword.

    Suavevillain ,
    @Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

    People say we can find someone better next time and still vote for yell for everyone to vote for every Neoliberal like Biden when they show up on the ballot. The lesser evil route is what got us here now.

    Skepticpunk ,

    The alternative, right now, is still potentially never having another election.

    Suavevillain ,
    @Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

    If that is the case, then I guess it is over if Democracy rests on the shoulder of Joe Biden.

    t3h_fool ,

    How so?

    lolcatnip , (edited )

    “Where we are now” is nowhere near as bad as things could be. Nazi Germany, Mussolini’s Italy, and Franco’s Spain all happened. Equally bad things could happen here, and in fact they have happened here. Remember how half this country’s economy was based on chattel slavery and it led to a bloody civil war? And how there was a genocide of the indigenous population? Is that what you want? Because that’s the kind of shit we’re in for if we let the fascists win.

    Clbull ,

    To be honest I think Clinton or Obama would have been president for life if two term limits weren’t imposed.

    asif ,
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    I’m too young to chime in on Clinton, but I can see it with Obama for sure.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
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    Obama was lucky to win his second term. His approval rating was already underwater and only Romney’s own unlikeability saved him.

    Either way, this was a man who had functionally checked out back in 2014. He didn’t want a third term.

    RunawayFixer ,

    That’s some easily disprovable bullshit: Obama’s final presidential approval rating in 2017 was 59%, which is pretty good. So much for “checked out in 2014”. Trump and Bush w had 34%, Clinton had the highest ever with 66%.

    …ucsb.edu/…/final-presidential-job-approval-ratin…

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Obama’s final presidential approval rating in 2017 was 59%

    Obama’s approval rating in 2012 was 46%. He recovered in 2016 as we came out of a mini-recession.

    So much for “checked out in 2014”.

    He spent less time campaigning for Hillary Clinton than Biden or Sanders and gave up fighting for his judicial nominees back in January. He’s been on permanent vacation ever since.

    candybrie ,

    And Trump is even more unlikable than Romney. No one has really been running terribly likeable candidates lately.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    And Trump is even more unlikable than Romney

    Not according to the last two election vote-counts. That’s been a problem for the GOP for a while. Anyone they throw up against Trump is too much of a corporate stuffed shirt or hick blowhard to top Trump’s NYC Diva Energy. He’s got a cult of personality in a way guys like DeSantis and Cruz and Romney could only dream of.

    candybrie ,

    It cuts both ways, though. Sure, it gets his fans out in record numbers, but it also gets people who hate him voting in record numbers, too. I don’t think we’d have had that 2020 turnout for Joe Biden without Trump.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Sure, it gets his fans out in record numbers, but it also gets people who hate him voting in record numbers, too.

    When Bidencrats are concentrated in a few large states and Trumpies are diffused across a larger number of pivotal swing states, the electoral math favors the Republicans. And as Biden’s own approval ratings crumble, people who would normally turn out to hate-vote against Trump are demoralized.

    I don’t think we’d have had that 2020 turnout for Joe Biden without Trump.

    Trump won more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. And Biden only clinched the nomination by 40,000 votes across three swing states (all three of which he’s currently trailing Trump in today). He was running a tighter margin than Hillary enjoyed in 2016.

    Combine this with Republicans ramping up disenfranchisement efforts, fascist policing of minority communities, a chronically struggling economy, and a President whose declining health inhibits his ability to campaign, and I seriously doubt Biden will see 2020 turnout a second time. Meanwhile, Trump is once again poised to break GOP turnout records.

    candybrie ,

    Yeah, he barely lost to Joe Biden. Biden vs Obama popularity isn’t even a contest.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
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    Obama was marginally more popular than Biden back in 2016, when Biden was significantly more popular than Hillary.

    But in 2024, Idk. Neither of them have aged well.

    paddirn ,

    The Obama campaign did seem to flounder early on in the 2012 election against Romney, it just wasn’t able to reproduce the magic of 2008. I recall Obama performing badly against Romney in the first two debates, just did not seem at his best. It wasn’t actually until the VP debates after Joe Biden’s performance against Paul Ryan that the Obama campaign got reinvigorated.

    Kazumara ,

    Don’t know about for life, but a pretty long tenure like Angela Merkle, yeah I could see that

    some_guy ,

    FDR is why there’s an amendment prohibiting it. He’s speaking openly of violating the constitution. Hey “patriots”, isn’t that supposed to be a thing that makes you mad?

    werefreeatlast ,

    He read that in the morning and misspoke. And that’s how you get old people to say funny things.

    Maybe have younger people running for president?

    phoenixz ,

    What’s newsworthy about this? Trump flirting with dictatorship isn’t news, he already said multiple times he wants to be one.

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    AliasAKA ,

    This so much. People need to recondition that entertainment is not news, and news should not be entertainment. News should be description of noteworthy (even if boring) factual events. A presumptive presidential candidate talking about violating the constitution of the United States, that is noteworthy; maybe not unexpected in this case, but noteworthy.

    We need to be less entertained by news and more informed by news. Tell me what presidential candidates are saying in the most mundane terms possible. Anything beyond the barest oblique (as opposed to direct) fact or factual description should be eschewed.

    Emerald ,

    People need to recondition that entertainment is not news, and news should not be entertainment.

    John Oliver:

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c492cbbe-0c2e-4728-a73e-a0c4adc6232e.jpeg

    phoenixz ,

    Oh I agree with you.

    It’s just that at this point it’s like “wolf trying to eat three little piggies”, no shit, really? Yes you’re right, this is news but I’m so sick of having to hear the obvious. Give me the news where he died of coronary heart disease, which he will soon enough, or a drug overdose, which i also see very likely.

    Until then it will be more me stamping my bingo card, because of course he does <insert something horrible here>, than reading actual news

    OccamsRazer ,

    I agree with you, but this is blatant misrepresentation of what actually happened, and that should worry you. I’m not saying this to defend Trump, I’m saying this to point out the misrepresentation of events by the news media.

    FauxPseudo ,
    @FauxPseudo@lemmy.world avatar

    Not the first time he’s done this.

    thehill.com/…/4673353-trump-suggests-he-could-be-…

    jj4211 ,

    That is just another article about the exact same incident…

    FauxPseudo ,
    @FauxPseudo@lemmy.world avatar

    My mistake. Meant to post this link.

    www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/…/index.html

    jj4211 ,

    Ah, yes, much better. And also more unambiguously directly a call for a third real term, whereas this time it’s plausible he could be claiming that 2020-2024 was his ‘second term’ already.

    UmeU ,

    Ok hear me out…

    Trump wants to be a dictator, sure. He was a terrible president and it would be a disaster if he was reelected.

    Now that you know my position, listen to what he said at the NRA convention. He wasn’t saying ‘hey maybe I’ll serve 3 terms’… what he was saying was ‘if I get elected in 2024 then would that be two terms or three terms? Because we all know I was elected to a second term back in 2020 and so even though Biden is acting president, I am in my second term now, so a win in 2024 is a third term.’

    The man is an idiot and rambled incoherently throughout the NRA speech. He reiterated his usual batch of racist xenophobic statements and bragged about his uncle at MIT… he is a one trick pony and there is plenty to poke fun at.

    Would he tout the idea of a third term for himself? Sure! Is that what he did in this case, not precisely.

    jj4211 ,

    Exactly. Of course, by putting forth the belief that 2020-2024 was his second term, he should just bow out since he has also said he would not want to challenge the 22nd amendment.

    Emerald ,

    Oh you’re right. I guess I forgot one could be that stupid

    Audacious ,

    3, then 4, then 5… Just like putin.

    Huschke ,

    “Let me tell you, folks, it’s so true. Just like Putin, right? It’s unbelievable. We start with 3, then we go to 4, and then 5. It’s all about strength, and nobody knows strength like me. We’re talking about a progression, a strategy. Just like Putin does, so smart. You have to move step by step, building power. That’s how you win, that’s how you get things done. Trust me, it works.”

    Trump in one of his rallies (probably)

    Lost_My_Mind ,

    Without that “(probably)” I would have assumed this WAS at a rally…

    deft ,

    Too coherent not enough of a drug induced ramble

    Huschke ,

    Yeah you’re probably right. I should have probably diverted from the original topic halfway through. 😅

    ZILtoid1991 ,

    And then his children will run for office, and only because he’s too old now.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    His kids lack a great deal of his rizz. DT Jr is too weak, Eric is dumb as dishwater, and Ivanka has the girl cooties that sink every woman Republican candidate for the Presidency.

    lolcatnip ,

    So Eric it is, then. Just like his dad.

    Perfide ,

    Hey now, things aren’t that bad. No way Trump lives long enough for that.

    Sludgehammer ,
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    So let’s see here, Trump is 77 years old, but will be 78 at the time of election. Let’s just add eight years and we get 86… yep he’s angling for president for life.

    Theprogressivist ,
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    Yep, and his brain will be mush, so who knows who’d really be running the show.

    AbidanYre ,

    Will be? It already is.

    tsonfeir ,
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    Maybe he has worms. 🪱

    Scubus ,

    Nah, rfk was able to sustain it for a little bit. In Trump’s brain it would file refugee status and emmigrate.

    disguy_ovahea ,

    Not before he has it deported.

    lolcatnip ,

    It already is mush.

    Zerlyna , (edited )
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    But Biden is too old already. SMH. Maybe he’ll get sucked out of a faulty window in his plane. Edit: that was a /s people.

    tsonfeir ,
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    Who, Trump?

    Zerlyna ,
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    Yes sorry

    Ensign_Crab ,

    He’s angling for hereditary dictatorship.

    Theprogressivist ,
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    “If the Biden regime gets four more years, they are coming for your guns,” Trump railed.

    Really pulling out the “greatest hits” with this piece here. He’s got nothing else.

    gregorum ,

    That’s a GOP golden oldie. I’ve heard that same bs line since the early 90s at least.

    rwhitisissle ,

    And it’s a great line for the gun lobby. In a lot of ways, the NRA and gun manufacturers would prefer a Biden victory because gun sales spike when Democratic presidents get elected, as gun-nuts are certain every time it happens that this is the time, for real, that they’re “coming for our guns.” In other words, people panic buy rifles because they think a federal ban is coming. But the reality is that Dems will never push through sweeping anti-gun legislation because there are so many pro-2FA democrats out there that doing so would be ludicrously difficult and monumentally unpopular.

    darkpanda ,

    ‘Member when Trump said he’d take guns without due process? Like he literally said that.

    youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI?si=5WjokT9mD_4VQ46T

    CCF_100 ,

    “regime”

    He really used that word? Wow…

    Theprogressivist ,
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    I said the same thing. Heavy eye roll.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    Doesn’t he know that that word only applies to foreign nations.

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    Sorry, I should have said foreign, non-white nations.

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    If you’re just going to make pithy insults, you should at least have them make sense.

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    It could, but it only accurately applies to you

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    It’s working on you

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    Sure, you definitely don’t seem mad.

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    Sure sure, you can tell a person definitely isn’t mad when they pull out the ‘chief’ and the ‘lol’

    Blackbeard ,
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    You are both trying to win by reporting the other’s comments, so I’m kindly asking you both to stop.

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    This conversation is over now.

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    You are both trying to win by reporting the other’s comments, so I’m kindly asking you both to stop.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    I can’t report comments that clearly break the rules?

    Blackbeard ,
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    This conversation is over now.

    lolcatnip ,

    This is partly just blowback from everyone agreeing to use different vocabulary for governments we like vs governments we don’t. We never should have tolerated the blatant propaganda of the US having an “administration” while our adversaries have “regimes”.

    There are lots of other examples of journalists using loaded vocabulary this way. Most of them escape me at the moment but I can think of a few, like “freedom fighters” vs “insurgents” or “terrorists”, and “police action” or “peacekeeping force” vs “occupation” or “invasion”.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    i mean, statistically there have been at least one president with more than two terms before.

    This was also before there was a law that prevented it from happening.

    PanArab ,

    An Amendment has been repealed before by another.

    vinylshrapnel ,

    The last amendment took over 202 years to get ratified. I’m not sure another amendment can really get passed anytime in the distant future.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    ok well this one was actually a shitpost, it was passed by a college kid who got a bad grade on a paper about that amendment specifically.

    it just happened to be written up 200 years ago, without a deadline, and then as a result, it passed recently when it received renewed interest. Most amendments and bills, and shit like this have a dead line, to prevent this kind of shit from happening lol.

    lolcatnip ,

    You’d have a point if it was the last one proposed.

    The real issue is that Republicans control too much of the Senate and too many state legislatures to allow any sane amendment to pass.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    tru tru.

    But that doesn’t mean it isn’t still currently a law.

    Nastybutler ,

    What it sounds like to me, and apparently only me, is that he is saying here he is currently running for his third term since he “won” in 2020. Of course he has made comments before about how he likes how Putin and Xi keep getting to stay in power and wished he could do that, but it would help his cause if he could win the popular vote just once over his lame opponents.

    Imagine if Democrats actually nominated someone worth voting for rather than just us voting against Trump. But I guess that’s too much to ask for.

    LibertyLizard ,

    I mean the allusion to FDR seems pretty clearly connected to the idea of further future terms. Trump always phrases these things in a way so he has plausible deniability. But the subtext is obvious if you pay attention.

    AbidanYre ,

    He has also said his first term shouldn’t count because he was impeached. Never give him the benefit of the doubt.

    PotatoesFall ,

    That’s how I understood it too. I’ll be first to believe he wants to change that law but this article is trash

    aquinteros ,

    that’s how dictators dictate

    brain_in_a_box ,

    Noted dictator, FDR.

    MDKAOD ,

    22nd amendment was passed as a direct response to FDR’s four terms. But surely you knew that and are just being daft.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    So FDR was a dictator?

    metaldream ,

    It’s illegal now specifically because of fdr, idiot

    brain_in_a_box ,

    So FDR was a dictator?

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