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Trump floats idea of three-term presidency at NRA convention

Donald Trump flirted with the idea of being president for three terms – a clear violation of the US constitution – during a bombastic speech for the National Rifle Association in which he vowed to reverse gun safety measures green-lighted during the Biden administration.

“You know, FDR 16 years – almost 16 years – he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?” The ex-president and GOP presidential frontrunner said to the organization’s annual convention in Dallas, prompting some in the crowd to yell “three!” Politico reported.

Trump has floated a third term in past comments, even mentioning a prolonged presidency while campaigning in 2020. He has also tried distancing himself from this idea, telling Time magazine in April: “I wouldn’t be in favor of it at all. I intend to serve four years and do a great job.”

GiddyGap ,

You know, FDR 16 years – almost 16 years – he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?

Sounds like he’s just questioning whether the current Biden term is actually considered a Trump term. Just the usual election denial from him and the NRA crowd.

bradorsomething ,

I understand his confusion here… the phrase is “consecutive sentences.”

recapitated ,

And all that without even getting slammed or flattened. I guess he got away with it this time.

UmeU ,

Ok hear me out…

Trump wants to be a dictator, sure. He was a terrible president and it would be a disaster if he was reelected.

Now that you know my position, listen to what he said at the NRA convention. He wasn’t saying ‘hey maybe I’ll serve 3 terms’… what he was saying was ‘if I get elected in 2024 then would that be two terms or three terms? Because we all know I was elected to a second term back in 2020 and so even though Biden is acting president, I am in my second term now, so a win in 2024 is a third term.’

The man is an idiot and rambled incoherently throughout the NRA speech. He reiterated his usual batch of racist xenophobic statements and bragged about his uncle at MIT… he is a one trick pony and there is plenty to poke fun at.

Would he tout the idea of a third term for himself? Sure! Is that what he did in this case, not precisely.

jj4211 ,

Exactly. Of course, by putting forth the belief that 2020-2024 was his second term, he should just bow out since he has also said he would not want to challenge the 22nd amendment.

Emerald ,

Oh you’re right. I guess I forgot one could be that stupid

werefreeatlast ,

He read that in the morning and misspoke. And that’s how you get old people to say funny things.

Maybe have younger people running for president?

Clbull ,

To be honest I think Clinton or Obama would have been president for life if two term limits weren’t imposed.

asif ,
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I’m too young to chime in on Clinton, but I can see it with Obama for sure.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Obama was lucky to win his second term. His approval rating was already underwater and only Romney’s own unlikeability saved him.

Either way, this was a man who had functionally checked out back in 2014. He didn’t want a third term.

RunawayFixer ,

That’s some easily disprovable bullshit: Obama’s final presidential approval rating in 2017 was 59%, which is pretty good. So much for “checked out in 2014”. Trump and Bush w had 34%, Clinton had the highest ever with 66%.

…ucsb.edu/…/final-presidential-job-approval-ratin…

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Obama’s final presidential approval rating in 2017 was 59%

Obama’s approval rating in 2012 was 46%. He recovered in 2016 as we came out of a mini-recession.

So much for “checked out in 2014”.

He spent less time campaigning for Hillary Clinton than Biden or Sanders and gave up fighting for his judicial nominees back in January. He’s been on permanent vacation ever since.

candybrie ,

And Trump is even more unlikable than Romney. No one has really been running terribly likeable candidates lately.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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And Trump is even more unlikable than Romney

Not according to the last two election vote-counts. That’s been a problem for the GOP for a while. Anyone they throw up against Trump is too much of a corporate stuffed shirt or hick blowhard to top Trump’s NYC Diva Energy. He’s got a cult of personality in a way guys like DeSantis and Cruz and Romney could only dream of.

candybrie ,

It cuts both ways, though. Sure, it gets his fans out in record numbers, but it also gets people who hate him voting in record numbers, too. I don’t think we’d have had that 2020 turnout for Joe Biden without Trump.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Sure, it gets his fans out in record numbers, but it also gets people who hate him voting in record numbers, too.

When Bidencrats are concentrated in a few large states and Trumpies are diffused across a larger number of pivotal swing states, the electoral math favors the Republicans. And as Biden’s own approval ratings crumble, people who would normally turn out to hate-vote against Trump are demoralized.

I don’t think we’d have had that 2020 turnout for Joe Biden without Trump.

Trump won more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. And Biden only clinched the nomination by 40,000 votes across three swing states (all three of which he’s currently trailing Trump in today). He was running a tighter margin than Hillary enjoyed in 2016.

Combine this with Republicans ramping up disenfranchisement efforts, fascist policing of minority communities, a chronically struggling economy, and a President whose declining health inhibits his ability to campaign, and I seriously doubt Biden will see 2020 turnout a second time. Meanwhile, Trump is once again poised to break GOP turnout records.

candybrie ,

Yeah, he barely lost to Joe Biden. Biden vs Obama popularity isn’t even a contest.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Obama was marginally more popular than Biden back in 2016, when Biden was significantly more popular than Hillary.

But in 2024, Idk. Neither of them have aged well.

paddirn ,

The Obama campaign did seem to flounder early on in the 2012 election against Romney, it just wasn’t able to reproduce the magic of 2008. I recall Obama performing badly against Romney in the first two debates, just did not seem at his best. It wasn’t actually until the VP debates after Joe Biden’s performance against Paul Ryan that the Obama campaign got reinvigorated.

Kazumara ,

Don’t know about for life, but a pretty long tenure like Angela Merkle, yeah I could see that

some_guy ,

FDR is why there’s an amendment prohibiting it. He’s speaking openly of violating the constitution. Hey “patriots”, isn’t that supposed to be a thing that makes you mad?

cosmicrookie ,
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Just stop listening to him already…

hperrin ,

Republicans hate the constitution, so… this checks out.

FauxPseudo ,
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Not the first time he’s done this.

thehill.com/…/4673353-trump-suggests-he-could-be-…

jj4211 ,

That is just another article about the exact same incident…

FauxPseudo ,
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My mistake. Meant to post this link.

www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/…/index.html

jj4211 ,

Ah, yes, much better. And also more unambiguously directly a call for a third real term, whereas this time it’s plausible he could be claiming that 2020-2024 was his ‘second term’ already.

PanArab ,

FDR was president for 4 terms, a constitutional amendment can be repealed by another, see: alcohol prohibition

KillingTimeItself ,

i mean, statistically there have been at least one president with more than two terms before.

This was also before there was a law that prevented it from happening.

PanArab ,

An Amendment has been repealed before by another.

vinylshrapnel ,

The last amendment took over 202 years to get ratified. I’m not sure another amendment can really get passed anytime in the distant future.

KillingTimeItself ,

ok well this one was actually a shitpost, it was passed by a college kid who got a bad grade on a paper about that amendment specifically.

it just happened to be written up 200 years ago, without a deadline, and then as a result, it passed recently when it received renewed interest. Most amendments and bills, and shit like this have a dead line, to prevent this kind of shit from happening lol.

lolcatnip ,

You’d have a point if it was the last one proposed.

The real issue is that Republicans control too much of the Senate and too many state legislatures to allow any sane amendment to pass.

KillingTimeItself ,

tru tru.

But that doesn’t mean it isn’t still currently a law.

phoenixz ,

What’s newsworthy about this? Trump flirting with dictatorship isn’t news, he already said multiple times he wants to be one.

gardylou ,

This is massively news-worthy…news media is supposed to relay relevant facts about the situation, like this one, not try to entertain people by pivoting to new forms of content constantly.

AliasAKA ,

This so much. People need to recondition that entertainment is not news, and news should not be entertainment. News should be description of noteworthy (even if boring) factual events. A presumptive presidential candidate talking about violating the constitution of the United States, that is noteworthy; maybe not unexpected in this case, but noteworthy.

We need to be less entertained by news and more informed by news. Tell me what presidential candidates are saying in the most mundane terms possible. Anything beyond the barest oblique (as opposed to direct) fact or factual description should be eschewed.

Emerald ,

People need to recondition that entertainment is not news, and news should not be entertainment.

John Oliver:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c492cbbe-0c2e-4728-a73e-a0c4adc6232e.jpeg

phoenixz ,

Oh I agree with you.

It’s just that at this point it’s like “wolf trying to eat three little piggies”, no shit, really? Yes you’re right, this is news but I’m so sick of having to hear the obvious. Give me the news where he died of coronary heart disease, which he will soon enough, or a drug overdose, which i also see very likely.

Until then it will be more me stamping my bingo card, because of course he does <insert something horrible here>, than reading actual news

OccamsRazer ,

I agree with you, but this is blatant misrepresentation of what actually happened, and that should worry you. I’m not saying this to defend Trump, I’m saying this to point out the misrepresentation of events by the news media.

exanime ,

Hmmmm sound more to me like he doesn’t know the current max number of terms

Sam_Bass ,

If he gets even one we are doomed

Texas_Hangover ,

He already had one, dumbass.

Dkarma ,

We’re doomed, dumbass.

interdimensionalmeme ,

Doooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmeedd

NewAgeOldPerson ,

Now now Bender…

Buddahriffic ,

In the last one, he still had fear of consequences tempering his actions. If he gets in again, his fear of consequences will be from losing power, not what acts he commits to secure it or siphon benefits from.

scottywh ,

It’s pretty obvious that person meant one more, dumbass.

brain_in_a_box ,

I can’t tell if you’re one or those people who completely memory holed that he already had a term, or if you’re making a joke that we’re already doomed (the latter one is true, imo)

aquinteros ,

that’s how dictators dictate

brain_in_a_box ,

Noted dictator, FDR.

MDKAOD ,

22nd amendment was passed as a direct response to FDR’s four terms. But surely you knew that and are just being daft.

brain_in_a_box ,

So FDR was a dictator?

metaldream ,

It’s illegal now specifically because of fdr, idiot

brain_in_a_box ,

So FDR was a dictator?

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