I hate that a shitty picture taken as part of legal proceedings is copyrightable. Just like research paid for by the government should be free and unencumbered, so should things produced by the government itself.
Employees of the federal government generate IP that generally goes into the public domain. States can decide whether their employees, or municipalities ’ employees’ IP goes into the public domain or not. By default, it does not, and from briefly looking into it, it seems most states accept the default, and very few put it into the public domain, or allow for broad use of state-generated IP.
It makes sense, and it isn’t a rule narrowly targeted at mugshots, but I’m not sure how to interpret it as a good thing. More government workers’ IP going into the public domain seems like it would better serve the public interest. Even if it allows Trump to do nonsense like this.
Yes exactly. It isn’t in the public domain, and so is still protected by copyright, and arguably fails the test for Fair Use. But OP’s earlier comment suggested they were not aware that federal works sit in the public domain.
This isn’t accurate as there is no such thing as a federal work or state work nor is there any actual court case. The law covers the whole country and it’s explained in the first sentence of the article:
Donald Trump’s campaign may have violated United States copyright law by selling merchandise featuring the former president’s mugshot, legal experts have warned.
US Copyright law is a federal law about how copyrights are protected, but the posted regulation is about what federal work is copyrighted and NOT applicable to how state work is copyrighted. It even says it right there in the title: “Copyright_status_of_works_by_the_federal_government_of_the_United_States.” The jail photographer is not an employee of the federal government, nor is the trial an activity of the federal government. This photo was not a work by the federal government.
No worries. The big issue is how does Georgia law apply to photographs taken by a state employee as part of the stated job functions for their official job. It’s one thing for an employee to take a photo while on the job, but when their specific job is to take an official photo then I think it would be ridiculous for that person to own the copyright and it not be public property (like NASA images). Should DMV employees own the copyright to license photos?
I’m not a lawyer but my layman’s opinion is that the state should retain ownership over the photo. To give an example, where I live a company began scraping mugshot photos and then compiling them into a newspaper that they distributed and sold for profit. It became really popular but it also drew a lot of negative attention since this company was earning money by spreading photos and arrest records of people that hadn’t even been convicted of a crime. The solution here was to just stop posting mugshots online, which was effective, but didn’t address ownership of the photos at all.
This isn’t exactly a 1:1 comparison since Trump was the subject of the photo and also the one selling merch, but I think there’s a valid argument against allowing people to privately sell products based off work/production funded by the public.
I think the reason for this copyright is so nobody can massively shame the convinced. But nobody thought anyone would be proud about it so much to share it themselves.
He’s not proud of it. He’s just saying he is, so that people stops laughing at him. The fucked up pay is that he’s making money out of it. But you bet he’s seething over that mugshot. Especially because he said Hilary Clinton would be in jail. And he was technically in jail first.
The reason for the copyright is that you automatically get a copyright on any photograph. It seems unlikely the sheriff’s office would want to enforce it. This is all wishful thinking.
Naw, practically everything is copyrighted if it meets some fairly simple rules. Copyrighted is the default and the rules exclude works from being copyrighted.
Copyright can’t stop what you’re saying. People obviously are shaming Trump and other criminals. News articles typically use mugshot photos. Copyright can’t stop memes (and trying to do so usually just causes the Streisand effect).
The former president of America is selling merch of his own mugshot for a RICO felony racketeering charge, for stuff he allegedly did while he was the sitting president. That is a thing that is actually happening right now.
By the time this is all resolved, we might even have and answer to the question: can a president lose an election, organize a coup to overturn that election, get legitimately re-elected in the next election, then pardon himself for sedition for the election he tried to overturn?
Like it’s a long shot, but the fact that it’s even remotely possible to watch that play out for real is fucking wild.
You and everybody else. Hillary was the DNC’s second coming. I dont think I knew anyone aside from dyed in the wool democrats who actually liked her. Many of those wgo did vote for her did so begrudgingly and many wgo stayed home did so because the media had been pounding the “hillary is a shoe in” line since she announced her candidacy. Why vote for someone who leaves a vad taste in your mouth if you already know they are going to win.
What I don’t understand is why he simply hasn’t been removed; he’s not doing his job (on purpose) and is can basically be called a traitor. So… remove him???
Tuberville, of Alabama, has delayed the confirmations of more than 300 top military nominees over his opposition to the Pentagon’s policy of reimbursing service members and their families who have to travel to receive abortion care. In the Senate, one senator can hold up nominations or legislation, and Tuberville’s stance has left three military services to operate without a Senate-confirmed leader for the first time in history.
Like… how is not the actions of a traitor? Remove him from power, hold a new election for his position, and get things back on track.
In July, Tuberville posted on X, “I didn’t start this. The Biden admin injected politics in the military and imposed an unlawful abortion policy on American taxpayers. I am trying to get politics out of the military.”
Lying sack of shit. He’s putting politics in (his own politics).
It’s always projection with these people. If they complain about “politics” or “activist judges” they are really calling for their own politics or active judges to undo the will of the people.
Same reason that the Trump appointed head of the Post Office hasn’t been removed… Democrats are cowards who are never willing to go on the offensive and make a huge stink about things.
Do you think for even a second that Dejoy or Tuberville would still be in the positions that they are in if the parties were reversed? Not a fucken chance.
Republicans would have started an endless war if Democrats had someone in the Post Office fucking everything up or they had someone holding up that many military nominees. They would be on the news 24/7 vilifying these people and all hell would have broken loose. They would use this as a perfect example of how Democrats are supposedly anti-military. And the news media would have gone right along with it.
What do Democrats do? crickets… in fact I try to follow the news fairly closely and this is the first time I have heard the name Tuberville.
Historically, people who attempt to overthrow their government get death. Hell, they still execute Guy Fawkes symbolically every year. And all we do is put them up in prison for 20 years? We’ve gone soft.
I do, insurrection is the only crime I believe should merit the death penalty. Nothing else is even close to how dangerous that is. A murderer may kill a couple of dozen people at most, if someone overthrows the government, that could lead to death for millions and a shifting of history for decades if not centuries. That should be the only capital crime.
Guys losing 1/3 of his adult life, and won’t get out of prison before his 60s. I’m extremely anti-j6, but 22 years seems like a nice hefty sentance to me
She said the pilot told the women, who were on their way to Vienna, that they could leave and book new flights at their own expense “or they would be escorted off the plane by security and placed on a no fly list!”
Most fast-food workers have better soft skills than this.
Can you really compare the two? Sometimes you can fly without a plane, you just die a couple of seconds after free fall . Also, why are vaccines seatbelts, isn’t the whole point to immunize? Or is that just for every other vaccine except this one?
I’m old enough that my grandfathers fought in WWI. My mother’s second husband was a B-17 captain. Third husband was a fighter pilot in the Pacific theater. My father retired from the regular army as a LTC. Col.
These bastards would have fought each other to get to the head of the line to beat the shit out of Turderville.
But as others have noted, we have this obstructionist process in place.
As one of the other commentators said, maybe we should change the fucking rule. I just don’t know how.
I’ve never voted Republikklan in my life, but there were some who had honor. Senator McCain, for example. But now we’re stuck with this shit with legs.
McCain was one of the last respectable Republicans. I disagreed with many many of his ideas, but I think he was honorable as a person and thought he was doing what was right for the country.
I get that “man bites dog” is more newsworthy, as they say. But can we stop a tick and internalize that a human driven car hit and killed someone, and we’re talking about how it’s the autonomous car’s fault for adding a slight delay!
Give me a break. An ambulance being stuck in traffic by idiot drivers is nothing new. The autonomous cars may even kill people at a rate we’re uncomfortable with. They’re still gonna be better than humans. Humans are terrible drivers. Autonomous cars can’t come soon enough, and yes, I say that even as someone who prefers transit. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
the autonomous car’s fault for adding a slight delay!
And, as suggested with a summary apparently taken from video evidence, the only car blocking the route cleared the area as soon as it was able. … You know; like a human driver should (but, if you’ve ever seen the traffic to the tunnel in 07306 and heard the woop-wu-woop-woop DJ as he tries to remind drivers to GTFO of the way, you’d know they don’t).
“On August 14 two Cruise AVs encountered an active emergency scene at an intersection in which a pedestrian had been hit by a human driven car. The first vehicle promptly clears the area once the light turns green and the other stops in the lane to yield to first responders who are directing traffic. Throughout the entire duration the AV is stopped, traffic remains unblocked and flowing to the right of the AV,” Cruise said in a statement obtained by KRON-TV.
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