As I explained earlier today, he was commenting about crime decreasing around the world and, if Kamala were elected, it would be safer to meet the person he was speaking with in Venezuela than in the United States.
“If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it’ll be a far safer place to meet than our country,” Trump said to Musk.
#“OK, so we’ll go. You and I will go, and we’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela.”
I don’t know how you’ve twisted your brain in a fashion that makes apples look like pencils.
You and the media are misquoting him as saying he is going to flee the country, possibly to avoid criminal prosecution.
He is literally saying it would be safer to have a meeting in another country due to decreased criminal activity and the threat of a Harris presidency.
There’s a valid conversation to have around his statement. We could be discussing the crime rates in the US compared to Venezuela and the rest of the world. We could be looking at Harris’ record as a prosecutor and her political agenda to this point. We could easily be debunking what he’s saying to pile on more evidence that he’s a liar. Instead, the public wants to go on and on about something he actually never said or even hinted at.
Moreover, what my concern here is, the public’s ability to read comprehensively is deteriorating at a rapid pace. People are disinterested in taking the time to read an article and obtain true facts in preference of engaging with others over their feelings.
Having genuine dialog with others is more about listening than it is interrupting them and spewing your ideas. Everyone’s reading a headline and reacting without taking the time to listen to the story, digest its meaning, consider other factors and context, then responding in a meaningful, relevant manner.
I’m personally observing a world that’s becoming less interested in having real relationships. People are struggling to interact with others in real life. Ragebait is just one value in a larger more complex experience that’s changing our relationships and our reality.
There’s a lot of noise in our lives today. Most of it serves as a distraction. It’s the constant churning of the “news” and the endless instant streaming of “content” and the pings and buzzing of our devices. If it hasn’t already, this noise is becoming an addiction. Without noise, we’d be faced with calmness and focused attention.
Trump is noise. It’s noise crated by him and his brand and the media organizations and influencers pining for your attention and engagement. This story is a fabrication. The story about him slurring during the interview is a misleading observation. It’s a money maker for content creators because we need noise. Musk saying there was a DDOS attack is a lie and a distraction. It’s the noises he’s injecting into the zeitgeist to pull our attention away from something else.
We all need to be better at reading comprehension and listening. Take a moment to understand what it is you’re commenting on before you just become more noise and a cookie jar for advertisers.
You claimed he never made plans to leave the country, so I posted his exact quote where he makes plans to leave the country and now you’re claiming I’m misquoting him?
He’s a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced making plans to leave the country. Why didn’t you mention that in your list of other factors and context we could be talking about?
Your quote was taken out of context. If you listen to the segment I’m commenting on here, it’s very apparent he’s not speaking about “leaving the country” but about crime rates. And as I said in the other thread, I’m only commenting on the short clip that I’m hearing. There may in fact be more context that pushes his words one way or another.
… and again I told you their crime rates all over the world are going way down which makes sense. Cause actually, and next time what we’ll do, if something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela cause it’ll be a far safer place to meet than our country. Ok so we’ll go, you and I will go and we’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela, because that’s what’s happening…
So yes, I’ll concede he is making plans to leave the country to have a meeting and dinner date in another country. If’s that’s the semantics you want to focus on, I’ll concede. The reason for him leaving the country, in the context of this conversation and the larger point he’s trying to make, is about safety and crime.
What I would infer from this is he’s pushing a false narrative about the “radical left’s agenda” to allow crime rates to go uncontrolled. I also wouldn’t take it as fact that he intends to go to Venezuela nor that he truly believes Venezuela is safer than the US. He’s being hyperbolic using a hypothetical. Which is totally on brand for him.
You admit he’s a liar, and that he’s making plans on leaving the country so why trust him when he says WHY he says he’s making those plans? Again, he’s a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced. For being a stickler on ‘context’, you seem to be ignoring that part.
Also, are you going to edit your initial comment to admit that he did make plans to leave the country now that you conceded he did?
It’s evident that your mind is made up. You’ve chosen to reject reality in favor of your hopes and your feelings. Something must be true because you want it to be true. While I also want it to be true, I prioritize reality to inform my observations.
It’s painful to observe our comprehension of reality melting away for the benefit of the media and corporations and fascist-wannabes. They know people just see and feel what they want as long as it generates something other than nothing. I genuinely hope you’ll find a way to disconnect yourself from the twisted reality you subscribe to.
Actually, I had considered editing my comment to reflect the fact that he did not make plans to leave. It’s a hypothetical situation based on something that hasn’t happened. How you’re unable to discern that is too much for my mind to handle right now.
Dangerous chemical in something to be consumed by people? Probably just America again, but let’s check
US regulators have allowed drugmakers to use benzene for decades, even though international authorities have said they shouldn’t. In recent years, testing has found dangerously high levels of the chemical in some products in the US, raising concerns. Last year, the US Food and Drug Administration said the ingredient would be phased out of pharmaceutical use in 2025, a deadline that has been extended to 2026 following industry complaints.
Yep
Watch that 2026 deadline slip again as some money changes hands
Texas already allows companies to pollute all they want. You see they are in charge of regulating themselves… Yeah you heard that right. They keep track of their own pollution and are responsible for reporting spills and accidents. No real penalties for lack of reporting either.
Are there more instances these days of anti-right-wing crimes? It seemed like this was almost exclusively right-wing antics doing crimes against the left-wing.
Just asking questions (also known as JAQing off, or as emojis: "🤔🤔🤔"[1]) is a way of attempting to make wild accusations acceptable (and hopefully not legally actionable) by framing them as questions rather than statements. It shifts the burden of proof to one’s opponent; rather than laboriously having to prove that all politicians are reptoid scum, one can pull out one single odd piece of evidence and force the opponent to explain why the evidence is wrong.
We don’t know what this is yet. Other than a b and e. Even if this was anti right wing crime one also needs to keep in mind that they’ve made Justice against the right wing a crime as well.
When Justice becomes impossible violence becomes inevitable.
Has that been made conclusive? Last I heard, he was a registered Republican who also made a donation to a left-wing group.
He could’ve been someone on the political left who wanted to reduce Trump’s chance at being the Republican candidate by registering as Republican to vote against him.
including the political stance he displayed at school
This is news to me; that’s why I asked about him. Last I’d read, they couldn’t find anything about his political ideologies aside from his being a registered Republican and that one political donation. Guess I’ll have to look him up again to see what’s been discovered! Lol
EDIT: According to Wikipedia, his political affiliation still seems unclear.
His donation was made the same day that President Biden was sworn into office. According to the Progressive Turnout Project, he made the donation in response to an email about “tuning into” the inauguration; he was unsubscribed from the group’s mailing list in 2022.
Aside from these details, it doesn’t seem like there’s anything new
Is anyone surprised by this? Trump is the same guy that spent 4 years demanding to see Obama’s birth certificate because he didn’t think he was a US-born citizen. That was his first foray into “politics” and it established both his loyal base and the tone of his public discourse.
He’s been shitting on Maduro, but aren’t his tariffs a large part of why Maduro is in power? IIRC, his tariffs basically allowed Maduro to consolidate money and power.
This article should say that benzene is an ingredient in cold relief medicine. The headline as is suggests is could be a just an agent in the process. That’s a big difference.
Normally I’d be in favor of squeezing millions of dollars out of some rich person, but it’s the cops doing it and I hate the cops. Can we eat both sides?
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