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TheTechnician27 , in 'All good here': Last messages revealed from Titan submersible before implosion: Coast Guard
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hOrni ,

What do you mean what do we need a mattress for? Why in the hell do you think we just spent all that money on the Titan? The whole point of buying a submersible in the first place is to get the ladies nice and tipsy topside, so we can take em to a nice comfortable place below the sea, and you know… they can’t refuse. Because of the implication.

darvocet ,

It sounds like you want to hurt these women.

IphtashuFitz , in 'All good here': Last messages revealed from Titan submersible before implosion: Coast Guard

The investigation will also examine whether there is any evidence of misconduct or criminal acts in connection with the incident

What is the legal definition of misconduct anyway?

Given that Rush seemed to willfully ignore warnings from experts and fired people unwilling to do things like sign off on the safety of the sub I think there’s definitely a case for misconduct, at the very least.

Kellamity ,

There was a really good article on this and unfortunately I can’t find it now to share

But the gist was that Titan exploited a bunch of loopholes, among other things. The paying customers on the sub were in fact ‘marine researchers’ who coincidently made a donation, and things like that

Some of the people who were at one point involved but left due to safety concerns raised the issue with OSHA (? - or whoever the more specific body was) who repeatedly failed to investigate or take any action

So for me, whether or not they are able to charge the company, the industry regulators and government bodies overseeing them need to face some questions and judgements too (though it would take a more knowledgeable person than me to know what exactly that looks like)

towerful ,

I presume the investigation is taking official testimonies and gathering actual (and traceable) evidence in order to legally confirm what we all know.

whotookkarl , in NYPD can't find knife at center of Brooklyn subway bystander shooting
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Why hasn’t the mayor released the full body cam footage yet? If they are going to release statements but withhold material evidence we should assume they are doing it to manipulate public opinion against the facts.

Trabic ,

He’s a little busy right now

And he’s also a cop, so guess which side he would be on

restingboredface , in 'All good here': Last messages revealed from Titan submersible before implosion: Coast Guard

My God what hubris. Rush had so many chances to pause the dive or work on a redesign and ignored it. I can’t imagine the fear of being 3000+ feet below and hearing the first cracks of the hull as it starts to implode. Hope it was fast.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I hope so too. Especially for the kid that was brought along. But even if it was a second or two… knowing you’re about to die and there’s nothing you can do to stop it…

wjrii ,

At approximately 2,274 meters, the Titan sent the message, “All good here,” according to the animation.

The last communication from the submersible was sent at approximately 3,341 meters: “Dropped two wts,” meaning drop weights, according to the Coast Guard.

All communications and tracking from the submersible to Polar Prince were lost at 3,346 meters, according to the Coast Guard.

I’m assuming a lot here, but dropping weights would likely mean they were trying to ascend. They may have had just over five meters’ worth of knowing something was going wrong (whatever that means in terms of time) before the implosion.

MartianSands ,

For an emergency ascent, they’d probably have dropped more than two. They also probably wouldn’t have taken the time to type a message to the surface if it were going wrong that quickly.

It seems more likely to me that they were controlling their rare of descent. I’d expect them to lose a little buoyancy as the vessel compresses, so it seems reasonable that they’d drop the occasional weight as they descend.

wjrii ,

Fair enough. That makes a lot of sense. I have heard that the failure model for this thing likely would have been some cracking sounds, and then the implosion, but I probably shouldn’t speculate quite so hard. At any rate, the whole thing was a disaster waiting to happen, and whaddaya know, it did.

Bytemeister , (edited )

Frankly, it was probably cracking and pinging all the way down, even on normal dives. They had steel titanium outer caps on the ends, and carbon fiber in the middle, those two materials stretch and compress very differently under extreme loads.

hOrni ,

I don’t think there were any cracks. Most probably it was, one second there is a submersible and everything seems fine, and the next second there is no submersible. And everything is still fine because we just got rid of a few billionaires for free, and didn’t even have to use a guillotine.

noride , (edited )

That theory doesn’t explain why they suddenly dropped ballast and attempted an ascension prior to implosion, though.

E. After doing some digging, the comments about the Titan having dropped weights and was ascending during implosion came from James Cameron. Not sure if that makes it more or less trustworthy…

icedterminal ,

Something could have gone wrong electronically or mechanically warranting a ballast drop. I have considered this to be a possibility outside of them hearing cracks and suddenly wanting to go up.

IphtashuFitz ,

The linked article quotes somebody as saying the dropped weights were most likely to slow the descent as they approached the ocean floor. They just dropped a little weight, but not enough to start ascending again.

icedterminal ,

The hubris the man had was so perfectly demonstrated in his interview.

“There’s a rule you don’t do that. Well I did.”

And now he’s dead.

owenfromcanada , in JD Vance Condemns ‘Inflammatory Political Rhetoric’ After He and Trump Spread Rumor About Migrants Eating Pets
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How did we end up in the Onion Timeline?

garretble , in Trump Barely Mentions Crypto During Interview About Cryptocurrency.
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If you expect this guy with donkey brains to explain anything about crypto I have a cat and dog value meal to sell you.

mean_bean279 ,

You bring up a great point. Does Donald have a certificate showing he doesn’t have donkey brains?

FlyingSquid ,
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He has concepts of donkey brains.

clgoh ,

He should be asked what colour is a Bitcoin.

(Sorry for the Dilbert reference.)

Xtallll , in NYPD shot four people - including two bystanders one who is in critical condition - and another cop over a $2.90 fare.
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NYPD pays $126,000 annual salary, that’s about $60 an hour or $1 a minute, 4 cops respond to the fair jumper, if they spent more than 45 seconds on this it costs the city more than the fair was worth.

Blackmist ,

The point is not how much it costs.

The point is that a poor person needs punishment, and if they’re lucky, they might get to shoot somebody.

ravhall , in Facebook owner Meta bans Russia state media outlets over 'foreign interference' - ABC News

“Facebook owner” hahahahahaha poor Zuck can’t even get his name in the headline.

jaggedrobotpubes , in Ohio GOP Gov. DeWine says 'at least 33' bomb threats prompt Springfield to begin daily school sweeps

And how many of them from Donald Trump’s boss in Russia?

catloaf , in Israeli official says Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar can leave Gaza with family and end the war if hostages freed

Why should he leave Gaza?

todd_bonzalez , in Hezbollah members wounded in Lebanon when pagers explode
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SirEDCaLot , in NYPD can't find knife at center of Brooklyn subway bystander shooting

A little background on the NYPD and firearms Back when most apartments were transitioning from revolvers to semi-auto, NYPD held on to revolvers for quite a while. Their revolvers used double action triggers, which means pulling the trigger both rotates the cylinder and also cocks the hammer. This means the trigger is long and heavy, you have to pull it a long distance back and with a good amount of force. Many officers would ‘pre stage’ the trigger, pulling it halfway back to an indent where the pull gets slightly harder. This is a horrible practice that no one should ever do, because it means you might unintentionally discharge if you get jostled, but it made them more accurate when it came time to actually fire. But NYPD didn’t train it out of the officers.

So then the department switched from revolvers to semi-auto. But they used striker fired pistols- these guns have a very short and much lighter trigger pull as the only thing the trigger does is move a catch to release already stored spring tension. That can make you much more accurate because the force of pulling the trigger moves your aim off, so less force needed to pull the trigger means more accuracy.

Problem was, a lot of officers had muscle memory from years or decades of carrying the double action revolver so they would try to pre-stage the trigger. And that would of course fire the gun when they didn’t want to.

NYPD’s solution to this was to simply make the trigger on their semi-autos really really really hard to pull. They had a custom spring designed that increased the trigger force- a semi-auto usually requires about 4-6 pounds of force to pull the trigger, they put a 12 lb spring. That allowed the officers to apply pre-stage force from their revolver days without discharging the weapon. Still absolutely horrible practice, but this stopped the unintentional discharges.

This had the side effect of course of making the guns relatively inaccurate. When you have to squeeze the trigger with that much force, it throws your aim off. And especially when you are in an emergency situation and adrenaline is pumping, it’s hard to shoot accurately when you need to pull that hard. And, for a very long time, they kept issuing these 12lb trigger guns even to new recruits, many of whom had never fired a gun before and could be easily trained with proper trigger discipline.

For the record, no other police department in the nation did this. Every one of them transitioned from revolvers to semi-autos without much problem, because they did not tolerate bad trigger discipline to begin with. And while some recommend a slightly stiffer trigger, NYPD is literally the only one with a 12 lb trigger.

It wasn’t until 2021 that NYPD started to back off, and started issuing new recruits weapons with ‘only’ 8lb trigger springs. That is still fairly high, but those 4 lb less makes it a lot easier to shoot accurately.

Point of all this– When I hear that NYPD is shooting multiple bystanders, I’m not surprised. Unless those officers first hit the streets in the last couple of years, they are still using the 12 lb trigger and it’s not surprising they have shit accuracy and are shooting bystanders.

some_guy , in Donald Trump Rolls Out His New Cryptocurrency Business

I no longer blame him for fleecing his stupid cultists. I don’t care how much they harm themselves any longer, as they are hateful pieces of shit. I only mind that he benefits from it.

HubertManne ,

yeah im sorry when they bend over, reach behind, grab it, then stick it in themselves. I can hardly blame him.

FlyingSquid , in Trump Barely Mentions Crypto During Interview About Cryptocurrency.
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He’s literally unable to stay on topic. Ever. Dementia.

nokturne213 ,

It is the weave.

FlyingSquid ,
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He dropped that one like a rock after the debate when everyone saw him ‘weave.’

Kalkaline ,
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That’s not a weave, it’s a comb-over

kautau , in More than 30 bomb threats made in Springfield, Ohio, after false pets claims

“Some of them are coming from one particular country,” he said. “We think that this is, you know, one more opportunity to mess with the United States. And they’re continuing to do that.”

It’s ok, you can say Russia

Cadeillac ,
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He can’t. The R next to his name stands for Russia

elvith ,

TRUmp. It’s been right in front of our eyes the whole time!

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