Christopher Estoll, the lawyer representing him in the divorce and the criminal case, claimed in an Aug. 1 court filing that the mother was “not a credible witness and is highly manipulative.”
I mean, whatever, but facts are he is a rapist and “reunification therapy” in this case is an absurd torture.
Good luck to them. It’s a thankless job. We tip the front of house when all they do is hand you your take-out, but not the workers that clean the skid marks you left in the toilet, or the hair dye in the tub, or the beer someone spilled in the carpet. They’re the ones that should be getting tipped.
They’re understaffed for the same reasons as any in the service industry - shitty work and especially low pay.
You can and absolutely should leave a tip for the cleaners whenever it’s getting done. Just leave a note that says, “thank you, here’s a tip.” With the cash next to it.
They probably got a heads up about something new in a case and are trying to get ahead of it with their base. Since we know the MAGA cultists don’t consider time to be linear. The past can be in any order they want at the time. It’s all just the past.
This could have been in trial by now is not for the misbehavior in the DA’s office. This was far too important to go mixing relationships with I dunno… Democracy?
They would have found another way to stall. Really this should have gone to trial before the primaries even began, but then Trump wouldn’t have been the nominee.
By certain people DO deserve death. The problem is making the absolute determination of guilt. Courts and governments get that wrong all the time. For that reason I’m against the death penalty.
Why does anyone deserve to be murdered by the state or by anyone else no matter what they themselves have done? What does that achieve other than satisfying a bloodlust?
Protecting people from further harm. Punishment instead of rehabilitation. It’s fine if you wouldn’t, but understand plenty of people feel differently. Surely you’re onboard with some punishment or rehabilitation. There are those who would go further.
As a matter of practice, I oppose the death penalty. But I acknowledge there are people that deserve to die.
What about the other people in the prisons? Is solitary sufficient for you? What about the psychological harm that can do? Does a life sentence of torture work? What amount of resources should we direct to keeping a dangerous person locked up alive and not psychologically tortured? Are there other government functions you’d be fine losing at the cost of housing them? In the US we can manage that, but other countries maybe not.
Sorry… are you claiming the death penalty is more humane than not killing a person? Because, considering the number of appeals, I would suggest that shows that the actual people on death row would prefer the psychological torture.
No. I’m saying unintended effects and the impact to the rest of society needs to be considered. Solitary confinement has been equated with torture. Would you be fine effectively torturing people you want kept alive? If the cost of incarceration left the rest of the society in danger due to lack of resources, would you shoulder that burden?
I never said anything about solitary confinement. You brought that up. Somehow we’ve been doing fine with multiple domestic terrorists and serial killers being in supermax prisons without keeping them in solitary.
What part of the world could they not keep people in similar conditions as a supermax? If it’s a matter of money and that’s the only reason they don’t have them, that seems like an argument in favor of funding them, not in favor of the death penalty. I can’t think of another reason.
Incidentally, the fact that the U.S. is the only Western country with the death penalty, sharing that honor mostly with theocracies and dictatorships, should tell you something about the ethics of it.
The hypothetical doesn’t need to exist in reality. It’s part of the thought process. It’s not meant to be an argument for a realistic applicant of the death penalty. Again… I oppose the death penalty.
Now imagine a society (this can be fictitious) without the resources to house criminals indefinitely. How do you manage using resources, to the detriment of the innocent, to house criminals with a life sentence?
We don’t need to imagine it. It’s on that map I posted. All those non-dictatorships that don’t have the death penalty are able to manage it. i.e. the entirety of Europe save Belarus, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and many other countries.
Again, a hypothetical isn’t necessary when we have dozens of real world examples of what you’re talking about that you’re just hand waving away as if none of them count but your imaginary country does.
Again a hypothetical is exactly intended to avoid this minutia. What originally started this was when I said there are people that deserve to die. This would necessarily avoid the question of actual guilt vs wrongfully convicted. You’ve seemingly not balked at that while continuing to run with your “real world” shtick that has no bearing on the underlying ethical question. And again it’s perfectly fine if you don’t think there is anyone that deserves to die no matter what evil they get up to. The problem is that you will continue to flail and bang your head against the wall if you refuse to understand there are other people in the world who think differently.
It’s not a schtick. It’s like you want to discuss astronomy and tell me to imagine a gas giant and when I say, “ok, I’m imagining Jupiter,” and you respond that you are talking about a hypothetical gas giant and Jupiter does not apply because it exists.
If you wish to discuss things outside of your fantasies that happen in the real world, let me know.
I am against the death penalty. I do believe some people deserve death. But I also don’t think anyone should have that authority over someone who isn’t a threat.
So yeah, I agree that I’m not in a position to say that someone deserves death.
In the past 3 days I’ve been downvoted for commenting that gay people can adopt babies (in 196 for that matter) and asking why a news article about a bridge seemed to have one photo with a concrete floor and one with a wood floor. I commented asking why I was getting downvoted and someone told me it’s because I said it’s two different bridges (which I most certainly didn’t say) and someone else was sarcastic and rude
People on Lemmy are proving to get more toxic as time goes on. I’m considering going back to reddit more and more. Sure, the place is horrible, but I don’t feel bad about myself when I feel brave enough to comment
Edit: Can somebody who’s downvoting me please tell me what I said that was wrong? I really just want to know
Yeah. I went back to Reddit myself a bit over a month ago. Rarely come here anymore. It’s become a far left echo chamber for kids that barely know how the real world operates, and are far too stubborn to listen to anyone that tries to explain it to them.
Malicious downvoting is rampant here. People are a bit more silo’d on reddit which leads to less noise and more positivity when a user sticks to their chosen subs. I get the feeling that people here stick to the All or Local feeds which leads to a lot of negativity.
This makes a lot of sense. I do indeed stick to all on lemmy and the ignorant downvoting that often happens, reminds me of what would happen in default reddit subs like worldnews. My opt in reddit subs indeed had a way better crowd. The frontpage of Lemmy didn’t used to be this way when I first joined though.
Yeah, I’m guilty of it myself. It is a behavorial spiral that I have to jog myself out of. I kinda like the local feed because it feels manageable but I’ve also blocked hundreds of communities at this point.
I just read your two comments. I mean this as constructive and helpful. Sorry if it comes off as rude.
On the bridge you start interrogating about the incorrect answer to your first question. It’s quite presumptuous. I wouldn’t have downvoted. But it also doesn’t seem like a big deal.
On your gay adoption comment, I get what you were saying. It came off really pedantic. But also, the implication is hilarious that the way to make men “manly” is to have them raised by gay men.
I didn’t mean to be presumptive or interrogative. I meant to just include a second part if (and only if) it was relevant. I see now how it can easily come across that way
Would you be able to further explain the implication you mentioned? I don’t understand how you got there. I don’t mean to say you’re wrong or anything. I just don’t get the connection
No worries. I don’t mind being told that I’m wrong. And the implication I mentioned is purely just my own observation.
The post to me sounded like they were calling out their sister who thinks men are being raised to be too feminine. It’s a common accusation that younger people are “raised by women” without enough masculine role models. It’s all Alpha-Beta theory BS.
The commenter you replied to was saying that applies to every son.
Your comment seemed to inadvertently offer a solution that the Alpha-Beta types would NOT be happy with, gay parents. No “mothering” required.
To be clear, I don’t think the implication was why you were downvoted. I think you just sounded a bit pedantic. Like you were correcting them without adding to the conversation.
I just happened to enjoy the pendantry.
By the way, I’ve also been in a position where I was downvoted with zero explanation, even after asking for it. So I get the frustration. Even a bad explanation is preferred to no explanation. So I hope that helps and you continue to contribute however you feel comfortable.
In the past 3 days I’ve been downvoted for commenting that gay people can adopt babies (in 196 for that matter)
I was curious so I went looking in your post history for an innocent and clear comment communicating “that gay people can adopt babies”. I found your comment, and immediately understood why you were downvoted for it. Here it is in context:
I don’t know if English is your second language, or if you’re not used to drawing meaning from poetry rather than fact from prose. The person you replied to was giving a poetic answer. Keep in mind, I’m not saying I agree or disagree with any of the opinions listed above, simply that I can grasp the ideas and concepts the people were communicating in what they wrote:
When that poster said poetically “Every man is the son of a woman” they were communicating the idea that every man, that grows up to be an “undesirable adult” (as reflected by the OPs post) was once, at least for a fraction of a second, under the care of a woman (as in: thats how biology works). Further, the vast majority of those that would be men were under the care of women for many years, and if they grew to be “undesirable”, then previous generations of women had a hand in raising them that way and are therefore at least partially responsible for them being “undesirable”. Again, I’m not lending my voice in agreement or disagreement, I’m simply translating what they were saying poetically into an easier to understand block of text for you. It is up to you to form your own opinion.
What you responded with was appearing to contradict the poster as though they wrote prose. You focused exclusively on the idea that a tiny fraction of men are raised by a set of same sex parents ignoring the fact that the vast men aren’t raised in that situation. Further your “yes and no” seemed to suggest it could be as high as 50/50 split, which is of course, far far from reality.
Your downvotes were earned by you with people essentially saying:
If you need another example to highly what you did. Imagine the original post was Shakespeare’s like from Romeo and Juliet:
“What’s in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other word would smell as sweet.”
And you responded with:
“Shakespeare was probably referring to Old Garden Roses (Rosaceae Gallicas) and it does have a unique fragrance”
You might be kind of factually correct, but Shakespeare was writing poetically, not referring to a specific plant, but that the properties of the thing apply to it irrespective of whatever name we attach to it. Nobody cares what the genus and species of rose Shakespeare was referring to because the meaning of the idea he was communicating was separate from that.
yet, you seem tolerant of murder and vengeance. so, you would appear to only want to protect certain lives and make the world a better place for some. and who would be the one to decide who benefits from this “better world”? you?
If you feel “personally attacked” when your cheering of murder and vengeance are criticized as hypocritical, then perhaps you should reexamine your position.
And don’t cry about “personal attacks” when hypocritically making them with childish name-calling.
That’s really all I’m trying to avoid. This country is going to blow it’s top off if we keep treating the people as an exploitable resource. I just don’t want to deal with a reign of terror.
No they don’t, and they never will if we keep perpetuating this ridiculous pearl-clutching, cop-venerating bullshit where calling them out for what they are – a state-sanctioned gang – is stigmatized.
There’s an article on the front page right now about how a cop who raped his daughters was given custody and the mother imprisoned for refusing court mandated Christian reunification therapy.
I bet the officer reached towards his waistband or glovebox. He thought he had something in his hand. The officer was acting suspicious. The officer had a history of crime, a runin with the law when he was 12.The sovcit felt threatened and had to defend himself! Those are the talking points, right?
This post has brought out the worst of Lemmy. At least I can find respite in the fact that those glorifying this are merely edgelord keyboard warriors and have absolutely no measurable impact on the real world.
Unless you’re suggesting that this man was involved in that situation, there’s room to feel sympathy for both murder victims. I know I do.
This man was a teacher and coach for 16 years who only recently became a police officer, and now he’s gone. If your first reaction to this news isn’t sadness, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Unless you’re suggesting that this man was involved in that situation, there’s room to feel sympathy for both murder victims.
This cop is either one of the ones committing atrocities, or one of the ones that stand by, hold the “thin blue line”, and enable the ones committing atrocities.
I see both sides. There’s a great deal of corruption, racism, and ineptitude and shit behaviour by a lot of cops that has led to a deep mistrust and dislike, and it’s valid. Do they deserve to be executed by batshit right wing conspiracy crazies? No. They deserve regulation and discipline and overhaul.
I’d argue a good 50% deserves exactly what this guy got. I don’t feel bad for pieces of garbage (re: any cop) and don’t care what you think about it. They can all eat shit.
That Russian was just sitting in his trench. The cop was just sitting in his car. The Russians invaded Ukraine. The cops declared war on minorities. Sure they called it drugs, but we have Nixon on tape admitting it was about minority and liberal communities.
Isn’t it funny that we know that now and these places haven’t taken their foot off the gas in regards to drugs and broken windows? You may choose to ignore it but large parts of our country don’t have that choice.
I’m not the one telling them to think like an invading army and commit acts that would be a war crime if the military did it.
Now to be clear they aren’t committing crimes at the same rate as the Russian Army who is using chemical warfare daily now, but the general comparison is a lot closer than I think many Americans are comfortable with.
I’d be open to the idea that his partner was murdered by some scorned investors, but the boat capsizing during a sudden a storm, in large part because it’s dipshit owner wanted to brag about having the world’s largest mast…well that would be a stretch even for Jason Bourne.
However, I would absolutely believe that there was a hit man waiting for him to return to shore, who had to explain to his client that there’s no refunds just because God killed him first.
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