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Fedizen , in J.D. Vance Booed by Entire Crowd During Dumpster Fire Speech

I feel like I could do a better job than this guy and I am not a public speaker.

BetaBlake ,

It really is kind of inspirational, It makes me feel better about how normal I am in comparison

Karyoplasma ,

Step up to the mic, wave and say hello, get off the stage. There, better speech.

kittenzrulz123 , in J.D. Vance Booed by Entire Crowd During Dumpster Fire Speech

JD couch fucker Vance doesn’t know how to speak to normal people, what an absolute weirdo.

boaratio ,

Jorgen Depeanus Vance.

Tja ,

How long have you thought that?

Ok, good.

Fedizen , in Texas megachurch faces exodus of worshippers after a sex abuse scandal set off a summer of turmoil

Weird how many christian pastors see their church as their personal dating service.

irotsoma ,
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It’s a power thing. Many people choose jobs that give them power over unfortunate people for the express purpose of abusing those people’s vulnerability, not because they like to help people.

kittenzrulz123 , in Trump takes sexist Harris attacks to ‘whole other level’ on Truth Social

JD Vance has sex with a couch and Trump is a rapist who objectifies women, they truly are a pair forged in hell.

DMBFFF , in J.D. Vance Booed by Entire Crowd During Dumpster Fire Speech
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Nurse_Robot , in Reports that Capri Sun is phasing out pouches for bottles is ruining childhoods everywhere

I feel like I’m the only one who experienced metal bottles of Pacific cooler like 20 years ago. My mom bought them one time before realizing I went through them just as quickly as the pouches, despite them being like 4x the volume and price. They were one of the best things I ever experienced

mercano , in Reports that Capri Sun is phasing out pouches for bottles is ruining childhoods everywhere
@mercano@lemmy.world avatar

Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.

ABCDE ,

But much better to use aluminium.

squozenode ,

At least aluminum actually is recyclable.

n3m37h ,

There is still a plastic liner on the inside, glass, stainless steel or nothing

piccolo ,

The liner is incinerated, so the point is moot.

n3m37h ,

Microplastics aren’t nothing

piccolo ,

neither is nickel and chromium leeching.

n3m37h ,

Non acidic things don’t get either of these. Anything acidic goes into glass and non gets SS. Have a return system (beer store in Ontario does this)

piccolo ,

Not what i meant. Stainless steel still rusts eventually, and those metals ends up in water supplies if they are not disposed properly.

NoForwardslashS ,

Plastic and glass aren’t recyclable huh? Better just throw them in the landfill, much better.

steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?

SoupBrick ,
Serinus ,

Why aren’t we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.

whostosay ,

Well that would be because the god-king CEO would have like 45k less per year out of his 38,000,000 dollar salary without bonuses and stock value if we were to do that, you fuckin peasant idiot chump. Not only that but their enabling middle management might have as much as $200 less in their annual bonuses. Think for someone else other than yourself for once.

Creat ,

That’s not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn’t that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).

There’s also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.

Ideally, we wouldn’t buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn’t even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues…

Muffi ,

A lot of glass bottles aren’t melted down, but simply washed and reused.

Creat ,

Good job with reading you did there. Your didn’t even make it 8 words in and already decided to comment. Maybe give it another go, if you dare, and try getting a little further this time.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

If micro plastics in the water supply is an actual issue long term the tap water will be shot for the whole of most places. Reverse osmosis systems are the only ones I had heard could reliably help, but I haven’t gone to extensive on looking into that. Each household may someday need under the sink or such systems if so : /. Unless we can reliably do so at treatment plants and then transport it through the lines without the water getting any back in. With many American cities having water at its current state, I don’t see that happening.

Cornelius_Wangenheim ,

A surprising number of companies actually do sell powder versions of their drinks on the web. I buy both Arizona tea and A&W root beer packets online.

nilloc ,

Our school won’t let us send reusable glass containers excuse of fear of breakage.

I kinda understand, but our first grader has been using them for snacks at home for 5 years and never broken one.

NoForwardslashS ,

When you say “we” as in you and me, yeah, I don’t think we could manage to recycle them. “We” as a planet certainly can and many countries do.

steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Which countries? I thought only 9% of plastic is actually recycled.

Melonpoly ,

Source on this “pipeline”?

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

…do you not believe bottles are recycled? Or is this just a snarky way of pointing out how ineffective the system is?

n3m37h ,

If you think recycling is effective you have fallen to their propaganda

NoForwardslashS ,

Oh no, something is ineffective, we better abandon the whole idea!

finitebanjo OP ,

Yes, actually. We should abandon the whole idea. We should actually stop using plastics for everything. That’s the correct take.

Something like 9% of plastic gets recycled.

n3m37h ,

No, I want an effective system starting with the producers of waste

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Great, you not only read my mind but you are also spreading gloom about an extremely well known issue. Beautiful.

I don’t think I could have lived in society for the past 15 years without hearing about this issue at least 5 times a year, and I’m not sure what made you think otherwise.

n3m37h ,

I want change, ignoring the problem doesn’t makebthe issue go away

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

So if I ask what a person means with their snark, it means I want the problem to be ignored?

That’s a sad and weird way to assume shit, honestly. Because if you actually knew my view, you would know that I think about plastics fucking the human race every day of my life

Melonpoly ,

I was a bit too snarky

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

If you even thought to say that, I can’t blame you for your original comment.

Yeah, it’s really sad how bad plastic is currently destroying our environment. Humans have to be able to see further into the future than “will I live to see the consequences of my actions? Because if not, I can’t worry about them”

Melonpoly ,

I agree,

It pisses me off that you can slap a recycling logo on a plastic bottle and call it a day when the process is nearly impossible and hardy ever done.

Blackmist ,

Recycling bin > recycling lorry > container > third world country > sea.

piccolo ,

Here in american its recycling bin > recycling truck > garbage truck > landfill

Blackmist ,

A landfill in your own country? How fancy!

Reverendender , in Reports that Capri Sun is phasing out pouches for bottles is ruining childhoods everywhere

Oh no. I can’t relive the childhood frustration of being unable to access that sweet nectar shielded behind an impenetrable puncture-proof material with no tools to work with but the flimsiest of mini plastic straws.

Nurse_Robot ,

Skill issue. You could always penetrate the tiny hole with your canines if you were adamant enough

Wiz ,

If you were god-level, you could slurp it out through the little hole.

NaibofTabr ,

Then you push hard enough to punch through, and the straw goes straight out the back too.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

That was the worst. I loved it.

thelsim ,
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I don’t know about over there, but here they’ve started selling them with paper straws. Making it even more impossible to puncture that stupid little hole while ruining the straw in the process.

And of course it’s the only thing my daughter wants to drink. I’ve had to resort to using a nail file to open those things.

SeaJ , (edited )

I hate paper straws. There are many different compostable straws and paper is about the worst.

BorgDrone ,

It’s like a game now. Can you finish the entire pouch before the straw disintegrates? Stay tuned to find out.

son_named_bort ,

They even made one of the ends of the straw pointy to give the false illusion that you can easily stick it in. Of course, all it did was puncture a hole so tiny that the straw (that had been bent several times already) couldn’t go in, so you just sucked the juice out of the package with your mouth.

PineRune , in Reports that Capri Sun is phasing out pouches for bottles is ruining childhoods everywhere

I very specifically remember the controversy 15-20 years ago when it was found that many of these pouches had mold in them, and you couldn’t see it because of the pouch or even taste it. I’m sure the quality control since then has improved, but any time I see a pouch of juice, I think about that mold incident.

NegativeInf ,

Is that why some brands made the back of the pouch transparent?

PineRune ,

I would assume so. I would also think a lot of people just aren’t comfortable consuming something that they can’t see.

NegativeInf ,

Now if only we could get transparent aluminum cans.

(I mean technically we can? But it wouldn’t be the same. Just super dense synthetic corundum at best.)

whostosay ,

it would be so crazy if we used that one barely functional tried and true for hundreds if not thousands of years product called glass.

NegativeInf ,

Yes, but I meant the full can experience. Like pop top, leave it on the counter and the fizz dies. Lol.

FlyingSquid ,
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resonate6279 ,

Yes

VonCesaw ,

When they started doing the childrens semi-solid foods (applesauce) in similar packs, they had the exact same problem for YEARS

The form factor sucks ass and I wish they’d find a better way for both types of product

rusticus , in US police use force on 300,000 people a year, with numbers rising since George Floyd: ‘relentless violence’

I wonder if we’ll ever connect the dots. The FBI released a report more than 10 years ago that white supremacists have infiltrated law enforcement agencies throughout the country. Sauce: …wikipedia.org/…/White_Supremacist_Infiltration_o…

TheFriar , in Donald Trump lays blame for assassination attempt on Biden and Harris

Wait—is this the first time he’s done this since the shooting? Huh. I kinda assumed he’d already said it.

Zier , in Reports that Capri Sun is phasing out pouches for bottles is ruining childhoods everywhere
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YAY! More plastic!!!

Chozo ,

I imagine it's pretty much the same amount of plastic as they've always had.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

Bottles are 80% more plastic than pouches and cost more. The only good part is those pouches are not usually recyclable at all and sometimes bottles get recycled.

paultimate14 ,

“Sometimes” feels a bit generous. From a quick search I can find estimates that 5-9% of all plastic is recycled. It might be higher or lower depending on the specific kinds of plastic these bottles use, but most of it is probably ending up in a landfill anyways.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

I was being generous. Aluminum, steel & glass are the only materials that get regularly recycled. All the others are usually trashed, even if you sent them to recycling.

nadram ,
@nadram@lemmy.world avatar

The correct choice would have been paper/cardboard bottles, which is easier to recycle

finitebanjo OP ,

Juice boxes have a plastic lining, which is still better for the environment but not necessarily easier to recycle.

finitebanjo OP , (edited )

Technically a shift from Mylar to PET might be more environmentally friendly, but yeah I would prefer cans or cardboard box drinks, you know: the ol waxed paperboard beverage carton

Soggy ,

It’s probably paraffin wax they use, which is basically plastic.

finitebanjo OP ,

Absolutely plastic lined all, I was just trying to be descriptive since that packaging type doesn’t seem to have any unique identifying names.

piccolo ,

Parafin wax isnt a plastic… petroleum origin, sure.

But no, they are made with Polyethylene

Soggy ,

No it’s not structurally “plastic” but it’s not biodegradable or reusable which is the point at hand so I think it was a reasonable comparison. (I also said “basically plastic” which clearly indicates similarity rather than equation)

piccolo ,

Paraffin is an alkane, chemically similar to other alkane, such as methane, gasoline, etc.

Plastics are made from alkenes, with double carbon bonds, thus why they are harder to breakdown naturally.

TheDeadHorse , in Donald Trump lays blame for assassination attempt on Biden and Harris

It’s difficult to understand why local police aren’t doing more when they are stiffed on all bills presented for his rallies. What a puzzle.

Veraxus , in Plant-Based Meat Alternatives Healthier And Better For The Planet, Report Finds

Awesome. Now it just needs to be more affordable while tasting just as good. Right now, the stuff that actually tastes like meat is priced like a bougie, elitist luxury good.

monogram ,

Depends where you live, some countries the vegan stuff is cheaper than the meat

Ketram ,

Yeah this is all I want. I can barely afford to eat normally right now, if this got priced reasonably I’d be all over it.

addictedtochaos ,

the price is exactly what this is all about.

EleventhHour , in Reports that Capri Sun is phasing out pouches for bottles is ruining childhoods everywhere
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Meh, I’m well into my 40s and solidly don’t give a shit.

Xeroxchasechase ,

I’m proud of you! Letting go of your childhood nostalgia and stop regarding it as an unachievable goal and safe place to return to is a first step towards maturity!

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