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LowleeKun , in World’s billionaires see $134 billion swiped from their fortune overnight in share price bloodbath, led by Jeff Bezos

Wake me up when all billionares have lost so much money there are none left.

FlyingSquid , in World’s billionaires see $134 billion swiped from their fortune overnight in share price bloodbath, led by Jeff Bezos
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And yet he still has so much money that if any one of us picked up a $20 bill every second for our entire lives, we still wouldn’t come close to having the amount of wealth he has.

It’s just obscene.

ShinkanTrain , in US fugitive who joined Mexican police is extradited to Ohio over 2004 murder

extradited to Ohio

Cruel and unusual punishment

FlyingSquid ,
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I just hope it wasn’t Youngstown. No one deserves that.

thefartographer ,

El Diablo went down to Youngstown, he was hoping to plea a deal
He was in a bind cuz they nabbed his behind for murdering someone with cold steel

FlyingSquid ,
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No Charlie Daniels song will convince me that sending criminals to Youngstown, Ohio is anything but cruel and unusual punishment.

BlazarNGC , in UK Finance Worker Steals £75,000 From Dead Clients To Fund Gambling Addiction And Lavish Lifestyle

Wtf? Don’t post pictures of your crimes 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Super smart criminals

xmunk ,

Well the gf was apparently unaware that her purses and shoes were bought with dead dude money… so she didn’t post pictures of her crimes, she posted pictures of his.

geneva_convenience , in JD Vance says he was asked in front of his wife if he had 'any secret family' during vice presidential vetting

Did they ask him in front of his normal wife or his secret wife?

Glitterbomb ,

In front of both; Normal wife was sitting on secret wife.

P00ptart ,

Dannydevitocrawlingoutfromcouch. gif

Etterra ,

Is it face sitting when fake wife is a sofa?

FlyingSquid , in Trump trains sights on one of the last of the ‘Impeachment 10’
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I’m more interested in jailing the impeachment 2. Sorry… I mean the guy with 2 impeachments.

FlyingSquid , in Mixed-race voters say Donald Trump’s attacks on Kamala Harris’ race are painfully familiar
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I think we go with his logic and make sure Republicans know we’re agreeing with them:

Kamala Harris has an Indian mother and a black father. Therefore, she is Indian.

Barack Obama has a white mother and a black father. Therefore, he is white.

I’m not sure when we’ll get our first black president, but I look forward to our first Indian president.

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solsangraal , in Mixed-race voters say Donald Trump’s attacks on Kamala Harris’ race are painfully familiar

Multiracial American voters say they have heard similar derogatory remarks about their identities their whole lives.

half asian here. from childhood onward, i get asked “where are you from,” and by the look on their face they’re not satisfied with “tennessee” because obviously you can’t be from anywhere in the states if you’re less than 100% white. so anytime someone says “where are you from” what i hear is “what chingchong chinaman land are you”

FlyingSquid ,
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Honest question here. It’s something I avoid asking most of the time because I’m not sure whether or not it’s appropriate, but would it be okay to ask, “where did your ancestors come from,” or would that still be offensive to a multiracial person? It’s not something that comes up regularly or anything, but occasionally I’ll end up in conversation with someone who is multiracial and clearly another American and I’ll think, “I wonder what their family story is? How did their predecessors get here? Where did they come from?” But I usually don’t ask because I don’t want to offend them.

Obviously I wouldn’t just walk up to a stranger and ask them, I mean if I’m getting to know someone.

Edit: I should add that I’m white, but my family history is pretty weird, so I do like to hear about others’ history regardless of their race, I just don’t want to broach the subject where it might be a sensitive one.

solsangraal ,

i can’t speak for all multiracial people (or anyone else for that matter). but personally any question that doesn’t pretend to be something other than it is is fine. if the thing you want to know is someone’s ancestry or ethnic background, then don’t ask “where are you from.” that’s all.

also, still not speaking for anyone else, but i’ve gotten pretty numb to people being racist towards me, because i decided that if someone’s going to judge people by their race (or anything else they didn’t choose for themself), then there’s no reason to care what they think anyway. though i will mock and ridicule racists for the sake of others who experience suffering from racism. especially kids.

FlyingSquid ,
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Thanks for the answer, and I’m sorry you’ve become numb to the racism. It sucks that there’s even a reason to feel a need to be.

Really, the only two times I could imagine asking someone where they were from no matter what they looked like is if they had an especially weird accent, and I would probably precede it with, “you have an interesting accent,” or if I found out we were both from the same state, so I’d be asking them where in the state. Otherwise, it’s kind of a stupid question to ask of anyone most of the time, at least in the U.S., even if you aren’t trying to be a bigot.

solsangraal ,

things are getting better though–unlike the kids around me when i was a kid, i see the younger generations today being much more accepting and welcoming of different races, gender identities, sexual orientations, etc., because the racist white supremacist greatest fear is actually coming true: the country is becoming more and more diverse, more inclusive, and more equitable. and they want to stop it at all costs. that’s why we’re having to waste time arguing about DEI and CRT and gay books in the library and yes, kamala IS black, and yes, kamala IS indian–gasp at the same. time.

i dont’ see the numbness i feel for myself as a bad thing; it keeps me sane. and i still feel pain for other people who are victims of racism. not everyone is at a point where they can acknowledge these emotions and then let them pass away as they arise. so i will still speak out and condemn racism at every opportunity

FlyingSquid ,
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I can only speak for my own kid, but she has never seemed to care about anyone’s physical appearance in terms of race in her life. I’ve never given her a reason to, admittedly, but she also has grown up in a new sort of American culture where hiphop and Anime and a lot of Latino cultural influences are mainstream or becoming so. I was 7 years old before MTV allowed music videos from non-white artists. How fucked up is that? I am really glad my daughter is growing up in an environment where non-white people at the very least have a significant presence in the media and culture she consumes.

solsangraal ,

yea, change (read progress, another GOP pejorative) might move along slower than we would like, but it is inevitable, as long as there are people to carry it on. in some ways i’m glad i got to witness people whine and stomp their feet over black little mermaid. guess i’m not too “mature” for the occasional delicious schadenfreude-- i say make ALL the disney princesses POC

FlyingSquid ,
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I loved that one. People insisting that mermaids must be white. You know, like the real actual living half-fish ladies.

RedWeasel ,

So, from your answer the question “Are you from around here?” would be fine or would it sound to close to “where are you from?” ? I’ve had similar thoughts about ancestry as to @FlyingSquid, but don’t ask. Usually best not to ask if there is a high chance of offending someone.

Honestly don’t like terms like “black-Americans”, "asian-Americans or “mexican-Americans”. I rarely here “white-Americans”, they are just Americans. Feels like a way to segregate verbally.

candybrie ,

I think “Are you from around here?” has a totally different vibe. It presupposes they might be and that you’ll take that as an answer rather than going “no, but where are you really from?”

solsangraal ,

again speaking only for myself, both “where are you from” and “are you from around here” are similar in that they’re not “bad” in and of themselves, unless you’re looking for an answer that those questions aren’t asking for. the thing that’s irksome is not people wanting to know “what kind of asian” i am, but saying “where are you from” with the assumption that the answer will be some asian country (“obviously you’re not american” is the implication). just say “what’s your family’s background” or something similar.

also pro tip, it’s not the case for me, but some people get mad when someone assumes “what kind of asian” they are. my dad, who’s full japanese, hates it when people just assume he’s chinese or korean or anything else. i’m glad i didn’t inherit whatever that’s all about

Acrimonious ,

I think I know how your dad feels. Growing up in West Coast US I didn’t understand why central Americans had such animosity towards being compared or mistaken as Mexican. Then I moved to the south. To my co workers every brown person was Mexican. “hey go ask your little amigo xy or z” was common. “what little amigo?” " The Mexican who’s got the keys to the gate" “I don’t know that guy. Also, he’s Guatemalan. See that flag hanging from his car? It’s a Guatemalan flag” I didn’t piss me off, but it made me feel a way I haven’t felt before and it’s not positive. I now get triggered when people just assume I’m Mexican. It says a lot about them and it’s not good.

BakedCatboy ,

Assuming the context is appropriate I think an acceptable way to ask is “what’s your heritage” - imo the important thing is not to sound like you’re assuming they’re a foreigner just because their ethnicity / appearance. I think asking about someone’s family story or where their family is from is also a good way to ask because it’s clear you’re asking about their family and not assuming that it has bearing on the person’s upbringing.

It also can be really confusing when you’re a mixed and natural born citizen and you have no idea if “where are you from” is just smalltalk and they want to know where you grew up or if they’re assuming based on your appearance that you immigrated and assuming that the answers to “where did you grow up” and “where are your ancestors from” are 1 and the same. So personally I like when people are more specific because when asked where I’m from I’m just going to ask if they mean where I grew up or where my parents are from.

FlyingSquid ,
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I would definitely make it clear I was asking about their family history, not them personally. I told the other person who replied that the only two times I could envision asking someone where they were from were if they had an unusual accent or if I found out we were both from the same state. I just didn’t know if it would be touching upon a sensitive topic that they get asked about way too much and it’s just not something that should be broached until you know someone pretty well.

BakedCatboy ,

Gotcha in that case it sounds like you probably don’t have anything to worry about. People who are weird about asking where people are from without any nuance don’t seem to put that much thought into it and whether it sounds like they’re assuming immigrant status based on appearance (which is where wording can be important).

CosmicTurtle0 ,

As a full Asian, asking “What’s your ethnic background?” is far better than “where are you from?”

It’s so fucking annoying when people ask me “where are you from?” Because I’ll answer “Oh, I live just a few miles away.” And then they go, “no, I mean where are you really from?” And then I’ll answer, “I’m from a few miles away you fucking racist.”

Btw, at a funeral I got this line of questioning one too many times and actually said that.

It’s also contextual. Asking this after a few beers and some light conversation, asking about my background is cool. But it being the first or second question makes it weird.

Thanks for asking FlyingSquid.

cybervseas ,

“Oh, I live just a few miles away.” And then they go, “no, I mean where are you really from?” And then I’ll answer, “I’m from a few miles away you fucking racist.”

Amen to that! As your South Asian brother I feel exactly the same, and do the same, just without the cursing.

So, @FlyingSquid, if you ask me where I’m from, accept the first answer. If you want to know my ethnicity, you can ask that. Or you can just take your time getting to know me and I might share how I identify ethnically on my own when it makes sense in our relationship.

FlyingSquid ,
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Just to clarify, I would not ask a mixed race person with an American accent where they were from unless it was pretty obvious I literally wanted to know where in the U.S. they were from (as in Alabama vs. North Dakota). It was more about whether or not asking about family history was a sensitive subject.

cybervseas ,

I’m not mixed race. However I am a born and raised New Yorker, and I sound it. Mixed background or not, first generation folks like me sometimes struggle with identity. It took me a while to come to grips with how Indian I am vs. how American I am. What those two terms even mean. And how I want to present myself to the world.

I almost think of it like sexual orientation. There are times when it’s important or okay to ask, and there are times to let it come up naturally in time. And no matter what, however someone identifies you really just need to accept it.

FlyingSquid ,
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I hope it was obvious that I would accept it, but I don’t feel like it’s the same question. One is about family history (I apparently didn’t explain very well that this is not just asking where someone is from, but where their ancestors are from) and the other is about personal sexuality.

cybervseas ,

I’m rereading up the thread now and I see what you meant ♥️

“Ancestors” seems like a clumsy term. Has some icky feelings for me - I think because of the white power types.

“What’s your ethnic background?” still sounds better to me. Awkward, but less so.

Acrimonious ,

It’s different for everyone. For me, I don’t like it when strangers ask so I don’t ask when I’m the one who is curious. If it’s friends or someone getting to know me, it doesn’t matter how it’s asked. I do not mind. If I’m handing you a beer and say " that’ll be x dollars." And you respond by asking where I’m from, it bothers me. It’s the difference between getting to know someone and trying to fit them in a box. I get that sometimes people are curious but not every curiosity has to be satisfied. When I tell them that I’m from US it’s common to be followed by “fine! Where are your parents from?” That’s just weird. I’d never approach a stranger and ask about their parents.

FlyingSquid ,
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Yeah, sorry, I meant when getting to know someone not just asking a random stranger. I didn’t know if it was something I should hold off on until I knew them really well.

Acrimonious ,

asking about ancestry is a good way. I’ve been asked during the first conversation and it hasn’t bothered me. It helped that it was a deep conversation and the topic was somewhat relevant. It makes all the difference if someone is trying to get to know you. I understand I look ethnically ambiguous and if I were trying to get to know me I’d be curious too.

Localhorst86 ,

“where are you from?”
“Tennessee”
“No, I meant what country you originaly come from”

solsangraal ,

yep. i’ve had that conversation almost verbatim

perviouslyiner ,

A conversation like that was front page news not so long ago.

“No, what part of Africa are you from?”

“I don’t know, they didn’t leave any records”

TexasDrunk ,

I asked the question to a mixed race Asian guy. Not because I care about what country half his family originally came from, but because he was the first Asian guy I met that had a deep southern accent.

v_krishna ,
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Jesus people don’t even see how racist they are, pretty sad.

Hint - it was quite racist of you to ask that of somebody because they didn’t match your stereotypes.

solsangraal ,

my sister has a southern accent. it’s adorable to me too

Etterra ,

Me: Tennessee? Really? I’d have guessed Arkansas.

Blackmist ,

Meanwhile my wife is from overseas. But because she’s white, they’ll quite happily let her know about all their xenophobia and racism, because they think she’s one of them.

“Not you, you’re one of the good ones” is trotted out constantly among those who suddenly remember who they’re talking to.

Acrimonious ,

I lived in Tennessee for a few years. I’ve never been greeted so many times with “do you speak English?” Sometimes I’d just be like “nah!” And walk away.

solsangraal ,

no hablo ingles, pendejo

Yambu , in Mixed-race voters say Donald Trump’s attacks on Kamala Harris’ race are painfully familiar

If you vote for Trump as a POC you’re not the brightest bulb anyway. He’s openly racist lol

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

But what if you’re a POC and a billionaire who believes Trump will make you wealthier?

At least my parents won’t vote republican because of homophobia. They’re convinced dems will take all their money to give to immigrants and black people and force them to use paper straws…

Yambu , (edited )

They don’t want money to help their own and are fine with Trump being openly racist against blacks? Idk man, make your own conclusions. Don’t seem like good people to me.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

Don’t seem like good people to me.

That’s a foregone conclusion for any billionaire.

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snekerpimp , in Trump trains sights on one of the last of the ‘Impeachment 10’

They are like a boys treehouse club. Coming up with stupid weird names for things to sound cool, being hateful to anything different than them, screaming “na-uh, YOU are” when they are called out being turds, and kicking out and ostracizing anyone that was in that has a difference of opinion.

FlyingSquid ,
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Just think about how fucked they’ll be when Trump dies though. They’ve gotten to the point that they will backstab each other over absolutely anything.

snekerpimp ,

I have often wondered what that power vacuum would look like. Dreamed about it, perhaps?

some_guy ,

I think there will be a combination of people who were never interested in politics who again stop paying attention and those that seek out a clone who tries to act worse. I mean on the voter side. Huh, votercide might make a good band name if I was a right wing shithead.

Corkyskog ,

This could describe the nazi regime equally well.

AbidanYre ,

Sorry Jr, it’s the No Donalds Club. We’re allowed to have one.

xc2215x , in Virginia man charged with threatening to kill Vice President Kamala Harris

Glad they got him.

GoofSchmoofer , in World’s billionaires see $134 billion swiped from their fortune overnight in share price bloodbath, led by Jeff Bezos
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…And yet they are all still billionaires.

Remember this in the future when you hear these people complain about higher taxes, they weathered this “loss” quite easily. So they can weather the “loss” of some of their wealth to actually support the country that allowed them to make billions in the first place.

foggy , in US neo-Nazi terror group aims to revive activities ahead of election

Show up in larger numbers to point and laugh and humiliate them for being such fucking weirdos.

FlyingSquid ,
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I shared this yesterday in a thread too… one of the best ways to deal with marching Nazis:

www.youtube.com/shorts/r_UP_EiXwKA

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