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PugJesus , in Rep. Adam Schiff calls on Biden to withdraw from the presidential race

This is insane pressure on Biden to step down. I hope it gets through to him. I dread to think of what happens with such division in the party going into the nomination process.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

How long until Blue MAGA starts calling Schiff a Russian bot? /s

JimmyBigSausage ,

I would not call it “insane” pressure.

PugJesus ,

Prominent sitting congressmembers publicly asking for the presumptive nominee and incumbent president to step down is… very outside of the norm. It is an incredible and unprecedented pressure.

TropicalDingdong ,

sitting congressmembers publicly asking for the presumptive nominee and incumbent president to step down

Not enough hyperbole dude. I don’t have time to do the research, but its not clear to me that a situation where the incumbent president and presumptive nominee is being asked to step down by effectively ALL of the rest of party leadership, with only the fringe block (progressives) maintaining support.

I think i can recall a vaguely similar situation with maybe Grover Cleveland and the mugwumps? And iirc that was all about currency (gold vs silver vs fiat vs a historical aside: land based currency; worth reading on)…

xmunk ,

The norm sucks. The fucking norm got us into this mess by discouraging people from primarying a sitting president. If we’d had a robust primary we’d either be fully on board with Biden or we’d have dropped him already.

Fuck norm. He was like the worst character on Cheers.

TropicalDingdong ,

Fuck norm.

Thems fighting words

www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3LMSflEN54

xmunk ,

Ha, I wanted a Cheers reference and so I dropped that one but it also did cause me pain. Norm is exceedingly chill.

JimmyBigSausage ,

Insane pressure to me would be party leaders of House and Senate, former Presidents of the same party, united cabinet members or close family members simultaneously saying it is time to go. ☎️ My call is that Obama will have to be the bad guy on this one though.☎️

TropicalDingdong ,

Obama has called. Pelosi has called. Schiff has called. How far you gonna pedal these goal posts?

JimmyBigSausage ,

I don’t think Obama has showed up yet to walk him out of the room holding his hand. That is what I am talking about.

TropicalDingdong ,
PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

Nobody gives a shit about Pelosi, she should have quit in the last decade.

TropicalDingdong ,

idk if you’ve been following the Republican convention, but needless to say, they appear to be very…

“energized”

The democrats need a massive shot in the arm to even have a shot at this point, replacing Biden or naught. The assassination attempt provided a kind of rallying cry for MAGA/ Trumpers that polling won’t capture. Polling is good at capturing the distribution of demographics, but what it misses is how “activated” those demographics are. And boy-howdy, do Trumps key demographics seem activated. Possibly the most activated they’ve ever been, maybe even more-so than post 2020/J6.

If things don’t change massively, and even then, its a super difficult path for Democrats to come back from the situation that Blue MAGA has set up.

Maybe the AOC/ Bernie triangulation is setting up for throwing AOC onto the platform?

Harris/ AOC and the entire platform is: Women liberty and freedom of choice is our focus. If you elect us, our entire focus will be a constitutional amendment supporting a woman’s right to choose. Harris can activate the African American community. Women & the African American community to get NC & GA (maybe?). Let Harris or AOC put out better rhetoric on Gaza and WI/ MI/ MN can be back in play?

Like they’ve got to activate a/ any demographic and make this campaign about SOMETHING, because right now, it looks like the Democrats are stumbling into something similar to this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13fd4b22-4969-4b4d-883a-15ee42519002.png

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

All of this!

sunzu ,

Harris can activate the African American community.

Lolwat

TropicalDingdong ,

There have been some signficant and I think legitimate concerns that if any one but Harris replaces Biden, African Americans, specificially African American women will see this her VP pick as having been purely performative, when its widely acknowledged that Africian American women, specifically, helped deliver Biden the white house.

I think its a legitimate concern and I have no problem with Harris as candidate. Literally any one has a better shot than Joe Biden at this point. Editorially, I think a double woman progressive ticket could be the thing that gets the car back on the road, but I truly do not give a shit. I don’t care if its Andy Beshear. Anyone and everyone would be doing better than Joe Biden is currently.

corsicanguppy ,

No worries there. No matter who would replace Biden, past attempts show it’s guaranteed failure.

Swap Biden and a loss is assured.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Is it though? How are you so assured?

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

We need Arnold Swartzeneger as VP

Amanduh ,

He can’t I don’t think, you have to be born in the US to be pres right?

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

Are they really going to impeach Arnold?

Amanduh ,

Wat

corsicanguppy ,

Depends:

  • Biden on the ballot? We have a chance, albeit slim thanks to all the hand-wringing making people stay home (remember, that’s what the cons want)
  • Biden off the ballot? FAILED EVERY OTHER TIME, SO WHAT’RE WE THINKING?!?

Perfect doesn’t exist except in the doubts of Good Enough.

ralphio , in Nearly two-thirds of Democrats want Biden to withdraw, new AP-NORC poll finds

The fact that Trump has seriously turned down the noise against Biden since the calls for him to step down should let you know who he wants to face in the polls.

mosiacmango , (edited )

They didnt “turn down the noise” to keep him in the race. They just let the media run with the bone that helped them and had their surrogates attack.

You had speaker johnson saying biden was senile because he needed teleprompters. Meanwhile, days later Mikes teleprompter breaks at the RNC and he just trails off into nothing, stands around awkwardly and walks off. Sounds like the 50s something Johnson is pretty senile, huh?

You got Trump dozing off while sitting at the RNC, but nah, its old sleepy Joe, isnt it? The dude that had “executive time” penciled in everyday till 11am while he was in the Whitehouse and spent 1/3rd of his days as president golfing talking about someone else napping on the job.

Come the fuck on with this. Conflict drives page views, so the media leaned into an easy one that the Trump campaign helped push whole hog.

Atelopus-zeteki ,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

Trump was dozing off in the middle of his fraud trial. smh. I've never been on trial, but dang, I think I would want to pay attention.

phoenixz , in FBI, DHS warn of possible retaliation for attack on Trump

So one of us attacked trumpet?

Lets kill Biden in revanche!

Makes total sense!

III ,

Technically on of them attacked Trump, so one of us has to attack Biden. Logic…

phoenixz ,

Don’t start making sense now, you!

NegativeLookBehind , in Navy exonerates 256 Black sailors unjustly punished in 1944 after a deadly California port explosion
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Shit like this is just a PR stunt.

mosiacmango ,

Yes, but there is real money on the line:

After the Navy upgrades the discharges, surviving family members can work with the Department of Veterans Affairs on past benefits that may be owed, the Navy said.

The PR may get these families the leg up an honorably discharged service member should have got them in the 40/50s. It will still likely be battle, but for the PR, it will likely happen.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I disagree, this is an important component of truth and reconciliation. Institutions need to acknowledge and make amends for past harm in order to adequately move forward.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Ignoring an injustice forever would be wrong too, wouldn’t it?

We do not do anywhere near enough to acknowledge our racist past. It would do a lot more to clue people in to our racist present.

card797 ,

These sailors are owed a debt of gratitude and pensions to their descendants.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

I was not at all attempting to convey the opposite.

card797 ,

Well, anything any organization does could be considered a PR stunt by that logic.

enbyecho , in 'Disturbing' recordings from inside child-predator sting shows police, MAGA operatives ignoring laws

Just a little preview of a second Trump presidency…

givesomefucks , in Rep. Adam Schiff calls on Biden to withdraw from the presidential race

I can’t wait to hear about how Adam Schiff is now a trumpet…

It seems like the only people left explicitly supporting Biden, are the people Biden has appointed to run the DNC…

And I’m sure it’s a total coincidence that if a Dem besides Biden wins, they’d get to replace the DNC chair and all the other seat Biden got to appoint in 2020…

But if Biden runs and loses they maintain control of the party again for next election.

TropicalDingdong ,

But if Biden runs and loses they maintain control of the party again for next election.

(…) for next election.

Oh boy have they got a lesson coming.

JJROKCZ , in Biden to call for 5% cap on annual rent increases, as he tries to show plans to tame inflation

That’s still way higher than anyone’s raises each year…

OutsizedWalrus ,

Raises have nothing to do with inflation or cost of living. Companies that pin raises to those things are severely underpaying employees and hoping they don’t seek greener pastures.

Market rates set compensation. The best way to know your market rate is to find a new job.

Maggoty ,

If the company is doing COLAs right then their employees wouldn’t need to seek greener pastures.

OutsizedWalrus ,

COLA is almost always lower than what you’ll get by job hopping

Maggoty ,

I didn’t say they were doing it right.

pyre , (edited )

what the fuck? you get less than 5% raise in a year in the US?

edit: in light of responses, I’d like to reiterate, what the fuck… this is the most obscenely wealthy country in the world.

explodicle ,

Yep, company loyalty is dead here. The only way to get a significant raise is to switch jobs.

pyre ,

i mean that’s what happens if you don’t give a raise. what a stupid market.

Maggoty ,

People are lucky to get a raise at all. Much less 5%, usually it’s 1 or 2. For at least a decade the only way to significantly increase your pay has been to move jobs.

JJROKCZ ,

Most people are lucky to get 2%… my company set the max at 2.5 last year and you only got that if you were IT Jesus

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Acording to this report: www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/eci.pdf

The average Wages and salaries increased 1.1 percent and benefit costs increased 1.1 percent from December 2023.

Oh and then people that did get raises averaged 4.4% last year. So its really raises for some and poverty for most.

taiyang , in Elon Musk says SpaceX and X headquarters moving to Texas, blames California trans student privacy law

Living in Hawthorne myself (the place SpaceX is in now) I don’t get the sense it’s doing the city all that good. I think they get major tax breaks or something, since the area is pretty run down except for it’s immediate area. It’s fairly industrial / commercial but there’s a closed down mall, boarded up shops, etc.

I hope this is a punch in the gut the fools running the city need to start dealing with it’s real problems. :/

Prox , in Nearly two-thirds of Democrats want Biden to withdraw, new AP-NORC poll finds

This poll is irrelevant. Great for generating sensational articles, sure, but this question doesn’t matter. There’s only one poll question that means anything at this point:

If the 2024 US presidential election were held today, would you cast your vote for Joe Biden or Donald Trump?

shalafi , in Customers are furious with Sticker Mule’s pro-Trump mass SMS blast

I won’t be going back.

Eldritch , (edited )

I knew nothing about them before this. But I have a number of friends who are independent creators. And this was one of the more talked about thing for the last several days. One of them had never used the company and never will. And the rest have already found less fascist alternatives. So you aren’t alone. I feel kind of bad for their non-fascist employees if they actually exist. And I wish them luck on their future fash free endeavors.

azimir ,

I’m open to alternative options. Sticker Mule made great stickers, but is apparently a fundamentally anti democratic organization under the hood and willing to put Project 2025 in place to destroy the Republic.

Where should I take my business now?

Ragnarok314159 ,

There are likely alternatives.

What’s funny is they want to implement P2025, which will bankrupt the middle class, and therefore their entire business will collapse.

TallonMetroid ,
@TallonMetroid@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, but what do the fatcats care? They’ll have already bailed with their golden parachutes.

f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4 ,

vinyldisorder.com

azimir ,

I’ll give them a look.

Evotech ,

I’ve used www.redbubble.com in the past.

azimir ,

I’ve seen that name before, but didn’t recall them as a sticker maker. I’ll check them out. Thank you.

Evotech ,

Maybe they don’t print custom on demand. But it’s a bit of a sticker / print market

Delonix , in 'Disturbing' recordings from inside child-predator sting shows police, MAGA operatives ignoring laws

Fucking clowns 🤡

Corvidae , in Trump assassination attempt: More than a dozen guns found at suspected shooter's home

What other kinds of guns were found? I mean specifics. Handguns? Shotguns? Rifles?

Theoriginalthon ,

Nerf guns

Corvidae ,

Wasn’t what I had in mind. Why did the Crooks choose the AR15?

Theoriginalthon ,

My Googlefu says you can get a cheap rifle for $500, maybe because it’s the cheapest rifle with a magazine?

I don’t know I’m in the UK

SupraMario ,

It’s a very cheap rifle to build and cheap to buy as well. Poverty ponies is a thing.

deadbeef79000 ,

Poverty ponies

I just tried googling this and found nothing useful. I did find some gatekeeping on ar15.com though.

SupraMario ,

It’s not an actual rifle brand or anything, its just a nickname for cheap ass ARs. Basically like a PSA lower kit and a cheap upper. I’ve built a few with couch change.

PugJesus , in Biden Says He’d Consider Dropping Out if a ‘Medical Condition’ Emerged

This sounds very much like him setting up a scenario where he can step down without losing face. God, I hope.

ceenote ,

Much better than the earlier requirement of God himself descending from the heavens to tell him to drop out. After which he’d only consider it.

Zaktor ,

Now the Almighty can work in subtler ways like it usually does.

casmael ,

Honest question: is that like…. actually a good idea? Probably? What if they decide to replace him with Harris that sounds worse idk

PugJesus ,

It’s probably the less bad option at this point, let’s put it that way. Harris is not great, but she lacks much of the baggage and hasn’t lost the confidence of the party.

JimmyBigSausage ,

I could be pumped for Harris with the right running mate. Who shall it be? Don’t say Bernie.

PugJesus ,

Don’t know that I could be pumped for Harris unless she pulls off some kind of “Crouching Empty Suit, Hidden Visionary” shit, but I could be pumped for her VP. Unfortunately, I suspect she’ll choose a ‘moderate’ old white Dem guy as her VP to ‘balance out’ that she’s an ethnic minority and a woman.

JimmyBigSausage ,

Harris/Newsom? Harris/Kinzinger(my mancrush)?

girlfreddy OP ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

I’d love to see a Harris/AOC pairing … if only to watch all the rich old white people in leadership have massive shit fits.

That’s just a dream at this point tho.

Mouselemming ,

Oooh…! But Harris Buttigieg would be fun too.

JimmyBigSausage ,

Or Mark Kelly of AZ?!

Mouselemming ,

That could be out of this world.

Maggoty ,

You can’t have AOC yet, VPs go silent and we need her wit!

PugJesus ,

tbf, one of the reasons that Biden had such popularity as vice-president was because he never learned how to go silent

Maggoty ,

Point. AOC with a bully pulpit and really really high bar to be fired. That might not be the worst thing.

JimmyBigSausage ,

Maybe Sen. Mark Kelly from AZ? He is amazing. Very popular here in AZ. His wife is Gabby Giffords.

UltraGiGaGigantic ,

A cop and a union buster. A match made in heaven.

kittyjynx ,
@kittyjynx@lemmy.world avatar

Harris/Duckworth would be great. Tammy Duckworth is a combat wounded vet and seems to be pretty good as far as centrist dems go.

Zaktor ,

I have two tracks for pumpedness:

  1. Political: Someone with progressive ideas in the White House to represent that portion of the party. Probably not going to happen.
  2. Capability: Someone who feels like a particularly competent messenger with some fight in them. It would be nice to have some Democrats who can competently and accurately tear up this whole fiasco of a political movement. This could happen.
DragonTypeWyvern ,

Infighting to replace him is a terrible idea.

Him just retiring in favor of Harris or whoever? Better. Still absolutely horseshit considering no one seriously put their hat in the ring for the convention but whatever gets a president that supports universal healthcare and isn’t sunsetting.

spujb ,

please please please (x5) (refrain) please please, yes please, (return to chorus) (bridge) please sir please (return to chorus x2)

PugJesus ,

With tears in my eyes, please sir

FPSkra ,

He started with only God Almighty could make him step down…moved to if polls said there was no path to victory…now we are here…it feels like he’s warming up to the idea.

timestatic ,

Hopefully they can decide swiftly on the democrat convention and Biden can rally the Democrat party united behind one younger more energetic candidate fit to lead the country

Maggoty ,

Party leaders and mega donors seem to have coalesced around Harris. So if it happens it’ll be quick. I sincerely hope he’s actually healthy and this is a managed exit.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Ugh. Harris? Really? Why not Dean while we’re at it

Rutty ,
@Rutty@sh.itjust.works avatar

I sure hope not. Harris is a sure fire way to a Trump presidency.

How about Mark Kelly?

Maggoty ,

Mark Kelly isn’t well known outside Arizona. And I dunno about Harris being a loser here. The biggest complaint about Biden is his age. And she solves that.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Party leaders and mega donors seem to have coalesced around Harris.

“Democracy”

Maggoty ,

Yeah. But it’s not like Biden was the product of a robust democratic process either.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

democratic convention

Democratic party

FTFY

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

God works in mysterious ways. Well, I guess it’s not that mysterious that an 84 year old man who attends a lot of public events got COVID.

FPSkra ,

What’s the over under on it turning into long COVID which gives him a graceful out.

upside431 ,

I see this way too

SuddenDownpour , in 'Disturbing' recordings from inside child-predator sting shows police, MAGA operatives ignoring laws

Your average law enforcement agent already has a worrying tendency to be a moron. Now imagine if that person is also a conspiracy theorist.

Delonix , in 'Disturbing' recordings from inside child-predator sting shows police, MAGA operatives ignoring laws

These chucklefucks are so misguided and stupid, it boggles the mind… also what a nasty narcissist Sandy their leader is, she probably blows them all. Yukkk. Just fucking be content and do some good work in your communities you fucking morons.

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