Clooney, of all people, is one of the least objectionable actors to have a major voice amongst Democrats. The man is on foreign policy think tanks and is a longtime fundraiser and organizer for the Democratic Party. And in any case, this is on the heels of several members of the House and a Senator dissenting. It’s not like this is the first or the last drop of the deluge.
He’s still an actor. I rather listen to presidential historians, and political scientist. Just because he shells out money in a system that shouldn’t allow it in the first place doesn’t mean we should take serious anything he has to say
A smarter person would listen to people who have real experience moving the political levers. Historians and “political scientists” arent those people.
You know who one of those people is? George Clooney. He has gotten democrats elected to office. He’s done the job of picking winners and losers. You are kind-of an idiot to ignore first-order people involved-in-the process people and to weight third-order armchair opinions more heavily.
Clooney will actually move people to support or not support a candidate. Physically. He will go knock on their doors and ask them to run. He’ll give them the funds they need to do so.
(If political scientists are actual fucking scientists show me how they use falsifiability for hypothesis testing and then tell me which of their hypothesis have withstood the rigor of reproducibility)
Clooney has known Biden for decades and just a few months ago organized a huge event for him…
“It’s devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe ‘big F-ing deal’ Biden of 2010,” Clooney wrote. “He wasn’t even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate.”
Ozma may be an anti-Biden partisan amplifying these calls for his own purposes, but these are significant voices. The fact that these dissenting voices are being raised at this point says that, regardless of what the ratio of political-theatre-to-reality is on Biden’s health, the electoral calculus Biden must make regarding whether he should continue running or support a replacement is changing.
Obvious propaganda is obvious. The people of Gaza are paying the price of Israel’s policy of deliberately targeting civilians with the intent to cause as much death and suffering as possible.
Seen this happen before. They’ll “close” these stores then a buddy company “buys” them, setup shop, inevitably fails, and they get bought up again by the same original company.
No more supermarket mega mergers! These create bigger food deserts in already undeserved areas
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Either people who don’t understand how elections work, or people who aren’t going to vote anyways and more than likely pushing some Russian psyop to split the vote/get dems to not vote like 2016 all over again. Biden is far from an ideal candidate for the US right now but I’ll take 4 years of him at his worst than to ever give Trump another day in the Oval.
Newman was represented in the lawsuit by New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA), a public-interest law firm linked to conservative backers that focuses on the so-called “administrative state.”
I doubt she appealed because she wanted to, she’s too old and confused to care imo. But plenty of conservatives have incentives to get this through the courts so they can have more precedents to keep the geriatric government going.
For years people passed on the torch when they got old, but this shitty boomer generation feel like they’re special
The boomers are refusing to take their turn, and refusing to allow any of us “kids” to step up and take on the responsibility for them. This particular “kid” is Gen X, and almost 44…
In the booth, on election day, sure.
But that’s still months away. No reason to not spend today trying to find someone people want to vote for. Someone who’s actually likely to finish the term.
Besides, you have to rememeber there’s a large segment of left(ish) voters who may not show up on election day unless there is a leadership change. Keeping Biden would almost guarantee they stay home.
I’m not sure Biden dropping out is such a great idea. Biden has a lot of supporters among Democratic voters. I’m not sure there is another democrat with his same level of support. There were a lot of contenders for the nomination in 2020, Biden beat 'em all. I think there are a fair number of independents who are motivated by preventing a second Trump term, so they’d vote for anyone who isn’t Trump. Biden meets that criteria. I get why Biden makes people nervous, but who would be better? Who has the same level of support among the diverse democratic voter base?
Did you watch the debate? I was all on board with Biden until he shit the bed. We needed someone with the stamina to stand up to Trump’s gish gallop, and instead Joe finally beat Medicare.
If he is on the ballot I will vote for him, knowing that I am really voting for his advisers and staff to run the country after 8 pm. But any of the names being thrown about that have experience as Governor or in national politics will be acceptable. Harris, yes, but also Newsom, Whitmer, and any of the others. Harris would be easiest to slot in, since she is technically on the same ballot.
Do you really think any Democrat in the country would say “I liked Biden, and if they get rid of him I’m staying home?” It’s more likely the opposite, that people aren’t looking forward to voting for Bide and may end up staying home instead.
Do you really think any Democrat in the country would say “I liked Biden, and if they get rid of him I’m staying home?”
I mean, yeah, I kinda do. There are a lot of democratic voters who don’t know who Newsom or Whitmer are, but they know Uncle Joe, the guy who was Obama’s vice for eight years.
It’s more likely the opposite, that people aren’t looking forward to voting for Bide and may end up staying home instead.
Is it? I don’t know.
Like you said, if Biden’s on the ticket you’ll vote for him. I think a lot of people will do the same.
I know I’d vote for a cat if it was on the ticket. Even an orange one. And I’d feel better about it than voting for Biden, since I’d know nobody was lying to me about it’s ability to do the job.
The problem with this argument is it only works for people who show up to vote, and if the Dems don’t get people, particularly young people, inspired enough to do so, then they’ll lose. Fear only works as a motivator for so long, at some point, you need to provide a carrot and not just the stick.
I don’t think you’re taking into account the dynamics of Biden’s situation here. He no longer has the support he once had. Almost anyone would do at least as well as Biden is doing now. And it’ll only get worse for him.
The Democrats need to switch to a contested convention as fast as possible. Other hopefuls need to start talking as though Biden is already out, and make their case for the nomination.
I think it’s the exact opposite. With biden or kamala trump has the best chance. Any biden supporting group who would jump over to trump or not vote if biden pulled out, I think would be minimal. Nobody is energized for biden, everyone is worried about trump.
If he did drop out for someone else, younger and able to speak clearly, I think we’d have a wave of enthusiasm. Imagine another debate with trump and a younger well spoke replacement, trump would be trounced.
Bring in any of the potentials mentioned (except kamala, I can’t stress this enough), and I’d feel way more excited for the election. It ain’t gonna happen now, but just saying. With biden staying in people are righteously nervous.
Campaign finance laws ensure it can’t be anybody but Harris. If Harris can’t win an election against Trump, yet Biden might, we have to vote Biden for a Kamala presidency.
My response to that would be that in 2020 he had the weakest campaign and still had the majority of voters rally behind him.
The person with the second most support in the party is just as old and is continuing to endorse Biden.
Anybody but Harris at the top of the ticket as a replacement means whoever gets the nomination will have a billion dollar deficit in running against Trump, meaning they have no shot at winning (seeing that they would be running against the only person in modern history who has won an election despite raising less money).
If Biden’s mind is as bad as we think it is, Kamala has been acting as president. She’s been a fairly good president, all things considered.
If Biden can’t win this, nobody in the roster can.
At this point, I think there’s an argument that Biden stepping aside as the candidate and endorsing Harris is the best play. Not because I think it’s a good idea, but because Biden is simply not performing as a winning candidate right now. Even with the onslaught of bullshit from the press, trolls, and conservatives I can’t justify his lack of urgency and getting in front of cameras. I desperately want SOTU Biden to show up at his press conference tomorrow, I just don’t have a ton of confidence he will anymore. That guy CAN win.
This is good news, while it wouldn’t be enough to sway diehards, it will sway the undecided who don’t want to see the nation become a shell of its former self. Conservatives who are trying to distance themselves from their most desired plan will make mistakes and screw up enough to hopefully get caught out. Here’s hoping at least.
Not enough people get triggered enough by maga policies though. Enough are concerned about abortion maybe but transgender rights, marijuana, Ukraine, climate change, nah. I fear that too many people would rather vote for the candidate everyone wrongly belives is going to improve the economy than any of that stuff, not that I agree that’s the right choice.
This “don’t want bad things to happen to you? Simply don’t be trans/gay/poor/different” mentality that so many people believe in needs to stop.
Enjoy the all that warm sunshine brought to you by Republicans and big corporations and stop bitching. The orange felon, who supposedly leads in the polls, promises even more. We are begging for more.
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