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Got_Bent , in The Obamas Endorse Harris: 'This Is Going to Be Historic'

Michelle: When they go low we go high.

Kamala: Let the meme trolling begin!

If we do end up descending into a Draconian hellhole of an autocratic dictatorship at least the election run-up is going to be exponentially more entertaining than it was going to be with Joe.

I say that dictatorship part because don’t think for a second that the GOP is gonna just roll over and die. Expect hard-line challenges to vote counts in every single swing state.

ChronosTriggerWarning ,

I say that dictatorship part because don’t think for a second that the GOP is gonna just roll over and die. Expect hard-line challenges to vote counts in every single swing state.

I’ve been saying this since Sunday. We just blew up the Death Star, but the Empire is still a threat. The fight ain’t over, yet.

NewNewAccount ,

How did we blow up the Death Star? No victories have been achieved yet.

This is more like Han hanging over the reigns of the Millenium Falcon to Lando in RotJ. The battle hasn’t even begun.

disguy_ovahea ,

The list of things “the Democrats want to take away” is going to be massive.

Nastybutler ,

So far their biggest whinge is plastic straws. Not the hill most voters are willing to die on

Kellamity ,
  • guns
  • freedom
  • profitable good healthcare
  • freedom
  • national security
  • guns
  • white supremacy The American Way
  • Your rights if you count
  • christianity?
  • freedom
  • transphobia family values
  • the cops’ ability to commit unchecked violence
  • guns and freedom
  • 1940s textbooks

All of these things are at risk.

Reverendender ,

Donald Trump could very well roll over and die and I would be ok with that. The only downside is not getting to know that he is in prison being miserable

Got_Bent ,

Somehow he’d still have a voice in prison. Kinda like all those interviews with Ted Bundy and Charles Manson et al.

His biggest misery would be to be alive and completely silenced.

idiomaddict ,

So a stroke.

Well, he’s old as fuck and eats McDonald’s for most meals. I’m also not sure if anyone would notice, so there’s a good chance it would be a bad one.

billiam0202 ,

The Heritage Foundation and its plan to cement autocratic fascist rule in the US will survive Trump.

vxx ,

There’s a “simple” solution to prevent their civil war plans. You got to crush them at the voting stations so hard that every question about foul play gets destroyed in its roots.

homesweethomeMrL , in Missouri Supreme Court blocks release of man whose conviction was overturned after more than 30 years in prison

It’s a very simple reason. The Missouri Supreme Court was having a retreat in Ferguson this week. To decide how best to suppress the black vote in November.

Also, fuck all these motherfuckers.

frunch , in Chicken wings advertised as 'boneless' can have bones, Ohio Supreme Court decides

I’m gonna assume this is one of the Project 2025 legislations

Dasus , in Cop described Sonya Massey shooting as ‘self-inflicted’ in initial dispatch
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

I can’t write my honest opinion about that cop without breaking at least rules and probably some laws.

TrickDacy , in Kids? A Growing Number of Americans Say, ‘No, Thanks.’

I think previous generations felt they had no choice. And even ITT those who chose to have kids are still smitten with this idea that life has no meaning without kids. Which was historically a coping mechanism for those previous generations who needed a way to deal with not having a choice.

Having kids seems awful 99.999% of the time. Life has a lot to offer without giving your entire existence over to children, despite the popular belief otherwise

HubertManne ,

well that and having to watch the kids have a lower quality of life than you had and that includes the part you provide as well as their long term prospects.

TrickDacy ,

Right! There’s no shortage of reasons not to have kids. If I felt they were easy to afford and I knew they’d turn out well, I might just be interested. But no such guarantees exist so yeah I’m not risking being stressed an insane amount for 25%+ of my life.

The behavior I see in kids alone is probably enough though. My kids would have to go to school with that? All the trauma I experienced in school as a kid? Yeah I’m not choosing that for someone else. And I’m absolutely not home schooling either. I know someone whose life was destroyed by that and other choices his parents made.

HubertManne ,

Well its never been and never will be a guarantee but its almost a guarantee for not those things this millenium so far and what it would take for it to have good prospects is sci fi level technology.

TrickDacy ,

Guarantee was too strong a word. Replace it with “reason to think that” and my point remains the same

HubertManne ,

yeah that makes much more sense.

AIhasUse ,

And if you weren’t clearly in highschool…

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

I think previous generations felt they had no choice.

Previous Generation here, you’re wrong.

Life has a lot to offer without giving your entire existence over to children

I’m also a parent and if you are giving your entire existence over to your children then you’re doing it wrong. Yes being a parent means making time and energy for your children but that demand fades the older they get and even while they are young you should still be making time for yourself and your partner.

TrickDacy ,

How old are you? You’re saying you had kids before birth control existed? That’s obviously what I meant

Also I would consider giving hours every day mandatorily giving my life up to someone/something. Just like I feel like my job consumes my life. It does.

WindyRebel ,

And someone with your mindset should not have kids. So, good on you for making that choice. Previous generations knew they had a choice, but they were pressured because having a family was part of “the American Dream”.

I am an older millennial and have a child. Sure, it’s hard work and I sacrifice to give them things they need or want but I wouldn’t change it. His outlook on life, focus on being a good person, and how he views the world at 10 is all amazing. It’s these kids that see through the BS and try and be better that are our future and hope for changing things.

Plus, like it or not, they are the ones that will take care of you when you’re old and suffering and they’re the ones that kind of keep the world running when we’re too old. I guess you can always purchase a gun and off yourself though but to me, that seems horrible rather than saying goodbye and going a lot more peacefully.

Steve , in The Obamas Endorse Harris: 'This Is Going to Be Historic'

This is frustrating. She couldn’t handle a primary run 5 years ago. Now the entire Party is just lining up as if she’s unquestionably the greatest candate the world has to offer.

Prior to this, the only Democrat less popular than her, was Biden.

Nobody knows what she’ll actually do in office because she’s only ever said or supported whatever will help her at the moment.

SteveFromMySpace ,

She isn’t on death’s door, she doesn’t want to jail people for pronouns, she supports a woman’s right to choose, the list goes on. The election is months away and it’s likely her vs trump.

Consider rolling up your sleeves and working on social and political causes to help see people and policies you like make it to the top. I have personally found it very fulfilling to volunteer at the local and state level in particular.

Love her or hate her, she is better than Trump in literally every way. The decision is obvious and complaining won’t put someone you like more on the ballot.

Steve ,

Is that really the best we can hope for? Or ask for? Someone who’s better than Trump?

dwindling7373 ,

Feel free to fund an entirely new party or even a new constitution, in the meantime you just need to take 2 hours off your massive, world changing project and vote for Kamala Harris.

Samvega ,

If people are only ever given the choice between a terrible option and a mediocre option, they will start to question the system which gives them these choices.

dwindling7373 ,

Apparently not.

Steve ,

I’ve been donating monthly to the Forward Party since it started. I could work on a new constitution.

idiomaddict ,

Great, please do.

KevonLooney ,

I thought you were going to say:

“Is that really the best we can hope for? ‘Working on social and political causes to help see people and policies you like make it to the top’?”

And I was like “yeah, it is the best we can hope for”.

Steve ,

That is what I’m asking for. Everyone else seems content with backing a “winner”.

KevonLooney ,

I don’t know if you understand. People are donating and volunteering, for Kamala Harris. You don’t want more participation, You just want people to support your personally chosen candidate (who remains nameless).

Steve ,

I haven’t seen one I like this cycle. Neither major party has nominated one I really liked in 40 years. The Dems came close a couple times.

tamal3 ,

It really is amazing how poor our choices are. There are many competent humans out there, but it’s not obvious from our options. Seems like a direct result of the 2 party winner-takes-all political system.

SteveFromMySpace ,

I haven’t seen one I like this cycle

Not one person? Really? You want people to satisfy you with a good candidate this November and you can’t even name one you like?

This is why people ready to vote blue this November get annoyed at these conversations. You aren’t serious people.

jj4211 ,

This sentiment is really impractical in a functional democracy of over 300 million people, if you can’t find anyone in 20 candidates that have run over the past 40 years from the two major parties you were willing to vote for.

Your perfect candidate that you hold out for isn’t going to be the perfect candidate for a lot of people. Part of the whole give and take is building consensus around most broadly acceptable candidates, rather than just taking your ball and going home when none of the viable candidates perfectly suite you.

Steve ,

Oh I voted in every election since I could. Just never for someone I believed in. It was only ever hope.

jj4211 ,

Ah, well that’s reasonable sounding. Perhaps the burden of understanding nuance of candidates is that you’ll always be disappointed when it comes time to reconcile with millions of others.

tamal3 ,

I hear you, but it’s also fun to see how excited Democrats are right now. It’s partly shock and relief at Biden dropping out, but I think there’s also real excitement in the mix!

Steve ,

That’s true. Even I’ve felt a couple times.

Asidonhopo ,

I’m skeptical but giving her a chance. Apparently her voting record in the Senate wasnt that far off from Bernies general position (although not “statistically closest to Bernie” like this circulated meme was saying)

At least she seems like she’s got some good energy and getting people engaged to vote and participate.

Gerudo ,

My wife and I have never been the biggest fans of Harris. We said the night Biden stepped down that she was the natural pick, but not the best pick.

She and her team have changed our minds. Harris actually attacking Trump and the right, embracing a younger crowd, along with some policies that she has mentioned, have us on board. Give her some time to lay out HER platform, not just Biden 2.0, and I think she’s going to surprise a lot of people. I am one of those excited.

Samvega ,

Is that really the best we can hope for?

I don’t expect the human world to meet my moral standards. That might sound sad, but it preserves my sanity.

Steve ,

It is sad, and it makes me depressed.

Samvega ,

My moral standards are special because I hold myself to them, regardless of whether anyone else cares.

kent_eh ,

Is that really the best we can hope for?

Got any actual suggestions, or are you only here to complain that any candidate isn’t a 100% perfect match for everything you want in the world?

Steve ,

I’d be thrilled for someone who isn’t an obvious self centered opertunist. Someone with principals that aren’t power for its own sake. I thought that was Obama. Honestly I still believe he has that in him. I know it’s Bernie, and Yang. I’m sure there are more out there. But our system itself keeps them from getting to the top.

tootoughtoremember ,

In July, of an election year, in the US? Yes, that’s the best you get.

Make a time machine, convince Biden to drop out 8-12 months ago, then you can have your open primary season.

Steve ,

That’s a plan, I can get behind.
But I would go to 5 years ago.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You know who else couldn’t handle a primary run (twice) before they were elected president? Joe Biden.

Steve ,

Yah. I don’t know why anyone thought he was a good option either.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

And yet he won despite you not knowing why.

Steve ,

Is winning the only hurdle? That’s so depressing.

Rentlar ,

It is very depressing, yes. But a candidate that is 10/10 on every possible good measure that loses to Trump due to Democratic infighting, will be a worse outcome to someone that is mediocre in some respects but can win. It is the most important hurdle, and at the very least I can say the Democrats have some semblance of a strategy now that they didn’t have before, and that’s reason for hope.

Steve ,

I’d be happy for 5/10

Shawdow194 ,
@Shawdow194@kbin.run avatar

Then vote for that candidate

aesthelete ,

I’d be happy

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Steve ,

Yah. That’s fair.

I’m not sure I’ve even been truly happy since I was a child who didn’t know anything.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

When it comes to stopping Project 2025? Yes, that is the only hurdle. Work on the rest after that.

Steve ,

That’s not something well ever “stop”. That’s an ongoing eternal fight. And you don’t win by only playing defense. You need to try to score also.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

We will never stop a specific agenda that has been laid out in great detail in a plan Americans are souring to the more they hear about it?

The sounds like what some people told me about Biden in 2020. Why vote for him? He’s the same as Trump.

Except he isn’t. By most measures.

Steve ,

Who said that? Did I? I never said any of that. Read my previous comment again.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Your previous comment:

That’s not something we’ll ever “stop”. That’s an ongoing eternal fight.

My response:

We will never stop a specific agenda that has been laid out in great detail in a plan Americans are souring to the more they hear about it?

Then I told you a different claim that your comment sounded like.

So yes, you did say that it is not something that we will never stop.

Steve ,

Did the agenda get stopped? Project 2025 exists. So the right wing religous agenda is ongoing, is it not?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What a strange question. The agenda didn’t get stopped because the election hasn’t happened yet. Which is why they need to be beaten first so it can be stopped.

You do understand that it’s called “Project 2025” because they want to implement it in 2025, right?

Steve ,

Project 2025 exists because electing Biden didnt stop anything. P25 is simply the latest label for the same agenda that’s been going on since forever. That’s what never ends.

The conservative religious right has waxed and waned for millennia. But it never stops.

You’re missing the forest to the trees.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, well then I guess we should give up. You’re right, don’t vote for Harris. She doesn’t pass the purity test. Let Trump win.

Steve ,

I never had a chance to vote for her. I was never offered any other options. That’s what my first comment was all about.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Did you canvass for anyone else to challenge Biden in a primary?

Steve ,

Would there have been a debate if I had?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Possibly. But you clearly didn’t canvass. If you’re not going to put in the work to canvass for another candidate, it’s pretty silly to complain that you weren’t given a choice.

Candidates don’t get on ballots by magic. It takes work.

Steve ,

No they wouldn’t. The party leaders were all in on Biden until 3 weeks ago. The last thing they want is for the public to choose “their” candate.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a great excuse for never trying, isn’t it? “They don’t want us to do it.”

ImADifferentBird ,
@ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Biden couldn’t handle a primary run in 2008, but he killed in 2020.

Times change. Circumstances change. People change. And if the enthusiasm that has come out over the past week, both from her and from the party base, is any indication, Harris in 2024 is in a much better place than she was in 2020.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, after his failed 1987 primary challenge, I’m surprised he ever got back on his feet in terms of politics at all.

He plagiarized a speech by a British politician and got caught, he was involved in a scandal involving his law school grades and he lied about his participation in the civil rights movement (or at least greatly exaggerated it).

en.wikipedia.org/…/Joe_Biden_1988_presidential_ca…

On top of that, after dropping out, he had two brain aneurysms.

It’s pretty amazing he got elected president in 2020.

Samvega ,

It’s pretty amazing he got elected president in 2020.

America is a country where some areas have such high rates of diabetes, people fully expect to lose limbs due to circulation issues.

It seems that you can simply train many people to expect their options to limited.

Orbituary ,
@Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

Biden didn’t kill it in 2020. Bernie won the first few states, so the DNC freaked out and pushed the other candidates to drop out and endorse Joe. After that, the media lined up to declare him the presumptive nominee. The DNC hates progressives.

Kamala was a better speaker than Joe in 2020. Her comments about being one of the black kids on the busses aimed at Biden was accurate and scathing. But she followed the party mandate and bowed out.

Why is everyone’s memory so short about these things?

She’s a far sight better than Trump or Biden.

Zipitydew ,

Bernie won a couple states that never help determine the election. Then Biden won by a lot in swing states. If Bernie won swing states it would be different. He didn’t. His appeal isn’t and wasn’t as good in the specific places the Presidency is won.

It sucks because I picked him in both primaries. But the reality is Biden had broader appeal where it mattered. Any Dem candidate is going get 170 EC votes along the coasts. It’s between the coasts where the election is won. And Biden did better in all those places.

Orbituary ,
@Orbituary@lemmy.world avatar

To my point, he was doing better until the others started to drop out. But that’s all academic now. My opinion hardly matters, but I stand by my belief that the DNC hates progressive politics and would rather lose than support a populist progressive.

Zipitydew ,

Pete won Iowa, Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada. Everyone (6 total candidates) was still in for South Carolina which Biden dominated. Pete and Amy dropped out at that point. But Bloomberg joined and Warren was still in. Gabbard was too but we all know was a joke candidate.

Biden was against 4 options going into Super Tuesday. Biden won 10 of the 15 primaries on Super Tuesday. Came in 2nd for the couple he didn’t win. After that is when Bloomberg got chased back out, and Warren dropped out realizing she was stripping votes from Bernie.

Bernie was ahead for all of 3 weeks. And at that point only 3 states were in. What truly happened in that time is a lot of media spin. Because they had nothing much to report on and kept belaboring over almost nothing of consequence. By the time my chance landed here in Illinois it was obvious Biden had it in the bag. Bernie dropped out himself only a couple weeks after.

Asidonhopo ,

Kamala is apparently more progressive than we knew, her voting record was pretty close to Bernie’s in the Senate. By being the vp and then Biden dropping out we seem to have gotten a more prog candidate than we could have otherwise?

TheDemonBuer ,
@TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world avatar

Nobody knows what she’ll actually do in office

I don’t have any reason to believe Harris would do anything radically different than what Biden would have done. That makes her far from ideal, in my opinion, but nonetheless still much better than Trump. That’s the only thing the Democrats really have going for them at this point: they remain better than the only other viable political alternative. Admittedly, that is a LOW bar, in my opinion, but that’s where we are in America right now. I have given up trying to make America the way I want to be, and am instead focused primarily on harm reduction.

Steve ,

Agreed. Just kind of more of the same seems likely. I just think we could use and deserve better.

Nastybutler ,

Other than his stance on Palestine, I think Joe (and his administration) did an excellent job under the circumstances. He was the right man at the right time

Steve ,

His domestic work was acceptable. My only gripe there is not pushing harder on the minimum wage. He could’ve replace the parliamentarian.

MagicShel ,

Oh. Look. It’s the exact message we all knew was coming. “Good thing we got rid of Biden, but now we have another terrible candidate.”

Steve ,

Yes! Exactly!
All the Democrats seem capable of, are terrible presidential candates. Obama seemed like a great candate for a … Change. But turned out to be quite mid.

Plopp ,

Prior to this, the only Democrat less popular than her, was Biden.

Well at least she’s more popular than Biden then.

Steve ,

Yes. That’s our great hope. Someone slightly better than the worst option.

Plopp ,

I mean, it is what it is, sadly. It’s basically impossible to get good candidates in a flawed first past the post system where there are only two realistic parties and both are controlled by the corporate elite that benefit from the status quo. Good candidates get squashed.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

she was in a primary with biden in the center and about 15 other progressives on the left. she was always popular; it’s just bernie occupied the left flank of the primary and everyone else was crumbs.

apfelwoiSchoppen , in Medicare and Social Security go-broke dates are pushed back in a ‘measure of good news’
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

When does the military get a go-broke date?

frezik , in Gov. Gavin Newsom issues executive order for removal of homeless encampments in California

Here it is, everyone: the most progressive state in the union.

MyOpinion , in The Obamas Endorse Harris: 'This Is Going to Be Historic'

Republicans are so angry these days with Harris. First it was the Obama’s did not indorse her because she can’t win now they are just really angry. They know they are going to lose. I love it.

greenshirtdenimjeans , in How decline of Indian vultures led to 500,000 human deaths

Really disheartening to see. I know when an animal dies out back in the woods or field because the vultures, while super fucking creepy, all chill up in the trees and take turns swooping down on the carcass. They pick it clean.

Vultures definitely have an unfair reputation, I don’t even think they are ever aggressive towards humans or really anything living.

anon6789 OP ,
@anon6789@lemmy.world avatar

Vultures are not typically aggressive. They don’t have the speed and strong talons of other raptors. The great majority of their food is already dead when they eat it. If another predator shows up, they will usually get out of there.

Their look is unconventional, but they are largely designed the only way they can be. If we go by the philosophy of beauty being function over form, it becomes easier to appreciate them.

Their heads are typically bald to avoid parasites and pathogens they would get from sticking their heads inside of some gnarly spaces.

Their legs are also bare, and they wash them with their urea (urohydrosis) to keep them sterile as well, because those feet are also going in the same funk.

Vulture stomach acid also comes in between 0-1 pH, making it 100x as strong as ours. All that bacteria and any parasites are going to be nuked.

So they are basically living, regenerating bio hazard suits that can digest anything. They can eat things contaminated with anthrax and botulism without a care in the world.

Bonus fact: There is a Palm Nut Vulture eats nuts, fruit, and grain in addition to meat.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a98fb87c-1c62-4933-85e1-f010f2bba66d.jpeg

marron12 ,

Bearded vultures are pretty neat too. They pretty much only eat bones. They can eat surprisingly big chunks whole. Or if the bone is too big, they drop it onto a rock to break it up.

And they’re very peaceful, because they know no one is going to fight them for the bones.

anon6789 OP ,
@anon6789@lemmy.world avatar

Hehe bones away!

That’s crazy they prefer the bones. It seems like that would have much less nutrition.

No competition does seem like a big advantage though.

ryan213 , in The Obamas Endorse Harris: 'This Is Going to Be Historic'
@ryan213@lemmy.ca avatar

Well, that’s surprising. /s

HootinNHollerin , in Kids? A Growing Number of Americans Say, ‘No, Thanks.’

If I could buy a house where I live I could consider one. But that won’t be for a long time or I move and start over

snooggums , in Uber and Lyft drivers remain independent contractors in California Supreme Court ruling
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

ride-hailing

Taxis. Just call them taxis.

jordanlund , in Harvey Weinstein in hospital with Covid and double pneumonia, his team says
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

“I could mention the names of many that it would please me if I could read their obituaries in the paper in the morning.” - Clarence Darrow

carbonari_sandwich , in Man dies at 27 from heat exposure at a Georgia prison, lawsuit says

In Albany, Georgia on July 20th, 2023, the relative humidity at 94 F was 54%. As someone who’s experienced dry heat vs humidity, I wanted to offer that context. Sweating just doesn’t cool you down as the humidity rises.

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