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thecam ,
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Clown world🤡

intensely_human ,

Calling it “Trump’s Project 2025” is misinformation given that Trump has publicly stated he has nothing to do with this thing.

Irelephant ,
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He does have a lot to do with it, but he did not think of any of it.

anon_8675309 ,

This has to be sarcasm.

The internet keeps a history.

He Knows.

Passerby6497 ,

If you believe anything Trump says, you’re already lost. Trump should be assumed to be lying unless there’s at least 2 credible sources backing up what he says. Dude lies about as often as he draws breath.

samus12345 ,
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Uh-huh, sure.

TheFin ,

He should grow a Hitler mustache

cupcakezealot ,
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    Pilferjinx ,

    Trump looks good by comparison side by side. Why would the right want to change that?

    ZILtoid1991 ,

    Reminder from Hungary: Go and vote for Biden or whoever the democrats will replace him with. Fidesz’es overreach is too big, they destroy everything they don’t like, and nowadays more and more people that were originally scared by the mass shootings and the ease of availability of guns would like us to have that same kind of access. Our only hope is either somehow the biggest allies of Fidesz disappear in one way or another (death, etc.), or the Ukrainians would really sell those weapons on the black market to us the Hungarian citizens.

    I remember many art and similar projects die, because Fidesz defunded the art, then their cronies took over everything and only let artists that pushed blatant pro-Fidesz propaganda.

    greencactus ,

    A kind reminder from Germany: If anyone tells that they “didn’t know what they were getting into” and that “it didn’t seem as bad, they cant really mean it” and “time in power will pacify them and they won’t push through with their claims” - we already had this story and these excuses. I hope that we all can prevent the fascists from getting into power. I really don’t want stuff I’ve read in history books to repeat in my lifetime. The more people know about P2025, the better - but to be honest I fear that most will just ignore it and go on with their day.

    Ragnarok314159 ,

    It’s already being dismissed as a hoax. The articles about “gay furry activists” leaking the info have allowed people on the right to claim it’s just nonsense, and Trump would never do such things to them.

    jorp ,

    The people already on the right largely can’t be saved

    cordlesslamp ,

    Do you think the media purposely uses the phrase “gay furry activist” to undermine his credibility so people won’t take him seriously?

    samus12345 ,
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    The worst part is, we already had this shitstain in power before. This would be like if Hitler had been appointed chancellor for 4 years and was still chosen again later.

    paddirn ,

    He clearly abused his power while in office before and was only kept in check by his idiocy and by people around him who understood that there is/was limits to presidential power. With SCOTUS basically giving the president kingly powers to do fuck all, the gloves are off and that shit-stain can just do whatever the fuck he wants. It’s so aggravating the number of people in power enabling possibly the worst person in human history to behave even more irresponsibly and giving into even stupider ideas. And that it’s even this close in polling #s makes me think America will deserve whatever happens to it as a result.

    samus12345 ,
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    America will deserve whatever happens to it as a result

    I get why you’d think that, but only the ones who voted for him or didn’t vote for Biden will, because many millions more people will not vote for him - it just won’t matter because of our fucked up electoral system.

    TheFin ,

    Hopefully it doesn’t involve swallowing bleach

    HurlingDurling ,
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    No, it’s much MUCH worse

    sucricdrawkcab ,
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    People don’t think it’s possible to do all of this. After reading the entire thing, it’s 100% possible, but I don’t think people are seeing this as the end of democracy in the U.S.

    Women, minorities, public education, the environment, work reform, social services and even protesting are straight up done. Sounds extreme, but I’m not seeing how you vote yourself out of this after firing everyone and replacing them with people only loyal to the president.

    Ultraviolet ,

    Even if they only succeed in doing a fraction of it, that’s still really fucking bad.

    Ragnarok314159 ,

    I explained it to someone as eating a shard of glass. Even if you have to eat a tiny bit of it, you ate glass and your life is worse.

    sucricdrawkcab ,
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    Oh yeah it is. You can’t really vote yourself out of some of that stuff.

    anon_8675309 ,

    Exactly. We’re still affected by Reagan’s policies that were based on this same organization.

    anon_8675309 ,

    Much of what Reagan instituted and is still plaguing us was written by this same organization.

    veganpizza69 ,
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    Finally.

    anarchistfederation.net/project-2025-a-handmaids-…

    ToucheGoodSir , (edited )

    Turns out the Heritage Foundation and their allies being so blatant with their garbage political policy MIGHT be bad for winning elections

    anon_8675309 ,

    Only if we keep it in the news cycle.

    ToucheGoodSir , (edited )

    Indeed, I do concur. The collective influence/strength of the technically savvy people in the world is a force to be reckoned with. Reminds me of the ratio of the number of individual Chinese state sponsored “hackers”, and Russian state sponsored “hackers”, compared to the ones employed by the United States military. Those persistent threat actors do be consistent, and highly, highly effective, if the Solarwinds hack is any indicator. It turns out that having the corporate world poach talent because of better pay and benefits, in addition to political policies that alienate the IT talent base that would be needed for “victory” (it would be a victory for no one, the quality of life on everyone on the planet would drop drastically) if full scale war were to break out, is not good for realpolitiking.

    For those unfamiliar with the term: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik

    Geopolitics, ancient history, the paranormal/highly strange & esoteric knowledge have been the things that I would say have fascinated me most in life. Due to recent experiences in my life, I am A LOT more concerned with exopolitics now than I am with geopolitics :| and to those that do not believe in non-human, intelligent entities existing… well… I would recommend that you read some of the trip reports of people who have done high doses of DMT. I also personally grew up in a ludicrously haunted house, where even with my bipolar that I’ve mentioned in my comment history, my 5 older siblings and all of their friends had experiences occur and sightings happen at that house (it was an old farm house here in Utah, had a barn and well and shit.) Alternatively, from a more physical, militarily minded perspective, I will go ahead link a source on UFOs back in the cold war flying up to American nuclear weapons silos, being detected on radar, physically seen by multiple military personnel at the bases, tampereing with nuclear warhead launch sequences, then flying away.

    Here is the source for that: history.com/…/ufos-near-nuclear-facilities-uss-ro…

    Burninator05 ,

    Make sure that you tell anyone who is searching the document for topics they care about to use alt-right, MAGA, and dog whistle terms for the topic. The people who wrote it didn’t always use normal words to hide what they are actually talking about.

    JackbyDev ,

    Can you give an example? I haven’t read the actual docs themselves, but I’ve heard enough.

    jj4211 ,

    I’ll second the other one asking and go further and say we need a pretty good, to the point write up of these dog whistles. Anyone that is vaguely “on the fence” will need to see it direct for themselves and I think most of us are ill-equipped to walk the language back to plainly stating it for what it is.

    joel_feila ,
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    Thanks gay furry hackers

    NinjaBluesman , (edited )

    This is a summary of Project 2025

    Reminds me how this guy got started.

    Some may argue that the President in the Civil War (2024) movie is Trump. In the movie, he is on his third term and bombed many US civilians.

    This is a break down of the movie.

    archomrade , (edited )

    I don’t know if Civil War is meant to have a clear real-world corollary for the conflict. In the movie Texas and California are aligned against the president and Florida and most of the NW states (including Idaho and Ohio) are breakaway factions that seem aligned against the federal forces as well (the implication that Idaho and Ohio are in the communist state alliance is pretty fucking laughable)

    All that to say: i’m pretty sure the producers intentionally avoided real-life groups to keep the movie focused on the topic of journalism and to avoid it being used in exactly this type of political fearmongering.

    Edit: also this bit in that article you linked, which seems to allude to the president possibly starting out as a liberal and becoming fascist, which is chef’s kiss

    Perhaps just as controversial as the decisions of which states seceded in “Civil War” are the choices as to which states stayed. Notably, the whole Northeast, including the protagonists’ main residence of New York, has stayed loyal to the fascist government, a plot point certain to raise questions about what happened to the former liberal stronghold. In an interview with The Atlantic, Alex Garland offered up the possibility that changes in political alignments occurred as a result of the President’s own politics changing between his first term and his third: “He may be a fascist at the point we meet him, but he presumably in his first term didn’t say [that] …”

    eldavi ,

    I don’t know if Civil War is meant to have a clear real-world corollary for the conflict. In the movie Texas and California are aligned against the president and Florida and most of the NW states (including Idaho and Ohio) are breakaway factions that seem aligned against the federal forces as well (the implication that Idaho and Ohio are in the communist state alliance is pretty fucking laughable)

    i almost didn’t watch the movie because all the reviews i read were stuck on this one point but …

    … i’m pretty sure the producers intentionally avoided real-life groups to keep the movie focused on the topic of journalism and to avoid it being used in exactly this type of political fearmongering.

    it was clear to me that this was true during the paramilitary soldier hostage scene; that was the closest the film ever got to contemporary political alignment and even then it was vague enough not to point fingers.

    i’m so glad the movie i intended to see was sold out and i ended up watching civil war instead because it’s one of those movies that sticks with you and i’ve haven’t felt that way about a movie in a long time.

    kirsten dunst was the reason why i went with this movie over the other options i had at that moment and i suspected that the movie would be at least decent from the start since i’ve liked every movie she’s ever been in; i would have seen this movie on opening day were it not for all the reviews i mentioned earlier.

    archomrade ,

    Yup, I think a lot of people avoided the movie because there’s an obvious proximity to current events that’s just too stressful for casual viewing, but I think they did a pretty tasteful/artistic job making the politics of the narrative vague and even a little subversive. It ends up keeping you focused on the details because you’re looking for those clues, but ends up putting you in the shoes of the journalists, trying to piece together a political narrative that you can’t quite see in the moment while you’re being bombarded with the horrors of war and armed conflict. I love that part of the movie, because it presents that tension of what they’re there to do as journalists - taking pictures to catalogue a larger narrative as the soldiers they’re following lay dying in the fog of war and unable to clearly see the bigger outlines. The viewer ends up feeling a little resentful of the journalists, because they seem a bit uncaring about the horrors they’re witnessing in service of getting the chance of capturing history.

    That’s also why I got a little worked up seeing it mentioned in this thread… op was doing the thing the movie was clearly going out of its way to prevent. Idk. The movie is great and I hate seeing it used as an inflammatory political statement.

    Cryophilia ,

    I gotta say as a Californian, as much as we bag on Texas if our two states ever teamed up we would steamroll the rest of the nation.

    eldavi ,

    I gotta say as a Californian, as much as we bag on Texas …

    that interests me greatly.

    when i moved from san francisco to austin i was surprised by how many “don’t california my texas” bumper stickers and flags shown everywhere. at first i attributed it to having to switch to driving for my commute and i thought it was odd that i had never sensed a such a reciprocated sentiment expressed while lived in all of california; much less be so ubiquitous every you go.

    yours is the first i’ve ever heard.

    Cryophilia ,

    Most of our bagging on Texas is talking about how cute it is they think they’re in the same league as us, economically.

    eldavi ,

    it’s still strange to hear (read) a californian say it since it always felt like a uniquely texan obsession comparing themselves to california and i felt it was lofty at best (and collective short-guy syndrome at worst) since california has around 33% to 50% more of everything than texas except land area.

    because of that:

    california + texas can steamroll the rest of the nation

    california + new york can steamroll the rest of the nation

    california + florida can steamroll the rest of the nation

    no combination of the others can do the same, except maybe all three; meaning that california is an outlier so comparisons to it are mostly self defeating and comparisons to new york or florida seemed non-existent when i lived in texas.

    JasonDJ ,

    I clicked on your “this guy” link and I got an ad…

    https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/ed2c4ffd-ec0b-49bc-a25b-246cb89e2843.webp

    …of Obama asking for campaign donations.

    I know it wasn’t your intent but the irony of that ad playing in that context was just too good.

    Cowbee ,
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    Just wait until the public hears about Trump’s Rule 34.

    todd_bonzalez ,

    Wow, I never knew that getting convicted of 34+ felonies would cause that. What a weird rule. Definitely worth googling.

    hakunawazo ,

    The most interesting fact for voters since the lemonparty.

    JasonDJ ,

    Is that what those lemon stealing whores were up to?

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    h3h3productions ,

    ‘parts’

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    Have you not learned anything?

    It doesn’t matter what Trump says.

    Zorg ,
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    Because he’ll say anything, and everything, then deny he has ever used the word “thing” - doesn’t even know it, never heard of it before…

    Freefall ,

    Pfft if he is so untrustworthy, can you even name and cite, with links, 3487 times he lied to the public? Checkmate Libs!

    So VERY /s

    Pretzilla ,

    You are way off on the Lieometer. More than 12,000 as of 2019.

    President Trump has made 12,019 false or misleading claims over 928 days

    washingtonpost.com/…/president-trump-has-made-fal…

    GoodEye8 ,

    Fox news? FOX NEWS? I guess it makes sense. If you believe Fox News to be credible then you might as well believe Trump wouldn’t blatantly lie about project 2025.

    FlavoredButtHair ,
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    Ok well, This sources pretty much says the same thing.

    samus12345 ,
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    Newsmax? Really? Are you trolling or do you not know that they’re even worse than Fox News?

    SoleInvictus ,

    Fox News? If you don’t believe Fox News, then take some quadruple strength Fox News! If that doesn’t work, I have entire reams of propaganda to show you!

    /s

    samus12345 ,
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    “Don’t trust Fox News or Newsmax? How about good ol’ unbiased OAN?”

    Freefall ,

    Name probably checks out…I am forced to assume this is a poor /s…because that take is SO bad.

    SoleInvictus ,

    You’re kidding, right? Anyone who isn’t 90% Fox News Flavored Kool Aid knows Trump is notorious for lying to get what he wants, even before his stint in politics.

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