I’ve done this hike; to the very bottom campground, over night, and then hike back up the next day.
I was about 25, then (2011 ish) . I did nothing but field work (hike through the bush - no trails, dig when you get there) all summer, for 300 hrs a month. As a result, I was really used to walking for a very long time, under shitty conditions. Another co-worker came with me (he was into trail running/marathons). We went in May, started our hike down at 4 am (to beat the heat) and hiked back up about the same time the following day.
Let me tell you, this is on the list of top 5 hardest things I’ve ever done. Maybe even in the top 3.
the last quarter of the hike to the bottom is very challenging, because you get into some sandy/dune parts, and they just take whatever you have left out of you.
Hiking out, the bottom half (to Havasupai Gardens) isn’t bad, but then it’s swtichback city, population: you. I started off doing 5 switch backs at a time, but I wasn’t even to 3-mile house by the time I was dropping down to 1, or maybe 1/2 a switch back at a time, and then needing a break.
I can’t imagine being 40-50 and doing this in the heat we’re experiencing now; it was hot as balls when we did it in May.
And named after railroad switchbacks, which are multiple tracks that zigzag up steep terrain and require the train to switch back and forth as it climbs. Hence the name.
I did the rim to rim hike over 4 days, 3 nights. We hiked in from the North Rim.
I was not in nearly as good of shape as you were, but in probably the best shape of my life.
It was an amazing trip, but the hike out was no fucking joke. And you did it in half the time I did. Hard to imagine.
I distinctly remember seeing runners who would run by with no camping gear, meaning they were presumably doing the entire trail in one day. I don’t understand how that’s possible.
We saw them, too. Those people are insane. Flat out. Even if they were going to the gardens, it’s nuts. Hell, 3 mile house is a rough go too.
We hiked down in 6 hrs and out the next day in 6.5 hrs. We crushed the bottom part, but my trail runner friend pretty much had to carry me for the upper part of the hike out. Not really, but he seemed hardly out of breath every time we stopped and I wanted to slap him.
Where I am in California there are six Safeways (owned by Albertsons who is merging Kroger) in a two mile square. At least here, we aren’t short of grocery stores, and these aren’t being shuttered anyway, they’re being sold to C&S Wholesale Grocers . The issue is this massive monopoly, not really being mitigated by the anti trust regulators making them give up a tiny percentage of their kingdom in order to vastly increase their strangle hold on US grocery stores and ability to artificially inflate food prices.
Again, these places aren’t being closed. They are being sold to a different grocery giant. The issue at hand is monopoly and price fixing, not fewer grocery stores.
Did you read the article you posted about Santa Rosa? That law was pushed into place so one guy could open a Smart & Final. There was already a Lola’s (independently owned grocery store), Target with grocery section and a Costco there. How is that a food desert?
He also didn’t like that the law had the appearance of being written specifically to help one property owner get a new tenant. Commercial real estate broker Tom Laugero, who was working to get Smart & Final into the Santa Rosa Town Center space, petitioned the council to pass the law. […] “We corrupted our process,” Wysocky said. “We took 12-year-old statistics from the federal government and molded our process just to help this one tenant out. And that’s not OK.”
I’m in Albuquerque. 3/4 of all supermarkets are either Albertson’s or Smith’s (Kroger). It will be a massive hit to local grocery competition. Prices will absolutely go up.
Maybe. It would be nice.
But with one national company having that much market share, they could easily cut prices below cost for 6 months, forcing the locals to close.
If Keller’s and La Montañita didn’t shut down during COVID I don’t think competitors are going to be able to shut them down, but that’s just my hot take.
So kids are joking around with each other online and the school is monitoring their accounts and punishing them for mean jokes about teachers? Leave these kids alone
I mean everyone gets that it was in fact a joke right? What are we talking about here? People are trying to make it sound like the kids were harassing these teachers or trying to trick people into thinking they were pedophiles as opposed to passing around dumb memes about them between each other.
This was impersonation on the level of “hey look at me, I’m funkless_eck, I’m a pedophile! dur dur dur” not some attempt to make it seem like those teachers were actually pedophiles.
Impersonating someone to suggest sexual relationships threatens their marriage or partnership.
Implying pedofilia threatens their freedom and all their relationships.
This isn’t telling jokes at the lunch table, it’s shouting them in a public forum. Tik Tok is no different than putting up a billboard or running an ad spot on television.
I’d say it’s a lot more like the lunch table, or even like a table at a restaurant off-campus. These kids were not directing these jokes at anyone but each other, but were in a semi-public place where they could be overheard. It’s basically equivalent to a teacher walking by a table full of students making jokes about their teachers by pedophiles and getting them in trouble after overhearing.
I speak that really from experience. My Reddit account (which I abandoned) is roughly 17 now. Was on other platforms prior.
You can usually tell when you’ve got a teen when they become libertarian and angry about why anyone should care about something edgy being done. The whole “it was just a prank, bro” mindset.
Ah Gotcha. I was commenting specifically on the sorts of behaviors i have seen young teens engage in online that shows (not in a bad way, just reveals) that they are young teens.
If I leave and the GF(untrained for the time being) is home, or if there is family or kids present, it is either on my person and safed, or locked up in a biometric safe.
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