You gotta remember that some of these people are the same ones who complained that their Southern Baptist pastors were preaching “liberal talking points” (aka, things Jesus said). If teachers actually started reading the Bible in class, these same people would probably start calling it “liberal propaganda” and trying to ban it.
I’m just saying, the irony is so thick that you’d need a rock drill and some dynamite to cut it in half.
The frightening realisation to take away is that most people don’t have a visceral horror of fascism in the way that progressives on Mastodon do. Which makes sense: if fascism was regarded with widespread revulsion, the Trumps and Orbans and Netanyahus of this world would be as successful as someone running a dogshit sandwich stall at the local market.
Depending on where you live a protest vote is perfect. If you live in a swing state, you should vote for Biden or Trump. If you live in a solid state like California, voting third party won’t hurt either candidates chances.
Uhh, Trump was the protest vote for a lot of people, unfortunately (Defifuckinlutely not me). Also, soooo few people vote, particularly in non-presedential year elections.
I always strategically vote for the best candidate, and live in a state which allows me to do so without impacting chances of the (more) fascist candidate winning the general election.
Now? You mean after the dems refused to allow a primary / primary debates and have been shouting from the rooftops that dementia grandpa is the only candidate who can beat Trump?
The frightening realisation to take away is that most people don’t have a visceral horror of fascism in the way that progressives on Mastodon do.
Oh, don’t worry. Many of the people on the Fediverse don’t have a visceral horror of fascism either. To them it’s “Both sides are fascist” because otherwise they might feel uncomfortable letting Trump win, and wouldn’t feeling uncomfortable about that just be awful.
Dem voters have always needed a candidate they like and/or agree with to turnout en mass and get the Dem elected.
It makes zero sense to keep blaming Dem voters for having standards instead of blaming party leaders for continuingly shoving candidates we don’t like down our throats.
There is zero reason to keep pushing unpopular candidates.
But because we all held our noses for Biden 4 years ago, he got to nominate DNC leadership and he picked idiots who say Biden is our only shot.
Holding our noses and voting for a candidate whose not for basic parts of the party platform, just moves the party platform and makes it even harder to get votes the next election.
“Party leaders” did not shove Biden down our throats. Unless you’re arguing that the party leaders of the dems are all the suburban soccer moms of the countries, and their consistency at voting. Then yes, that’s true.
Am I over-thinking it to be skeeved out by the phrase “blacks” for Trump?
It’s basically saying that their main defining characteristic as a group is their colour rather than anything about who they are culturally.
It would be like a politician here in Canada courting the indigenous vote by holding a rally called “Reds for Pollieve” or something.
I don’t see that really being talked about or mentioned and wonder am I just over-thinking it? Or is it just that it’s just one more fucked up thing that gets buried under a dozen other fucked up things…
You are right. Turning an adjective into a noun tends to make it more degrading because you’ve focused on the characteristic rather than the person. That’s why referring to people as “blacks” or “females” feels icky. It’s why we saw “deaf people” and not “the deafs” or “old people” and not “the olds.”
I bet most people only watched the first 30 minutes. In fact, I bet most people went into their phones and stopped listening full-time within 10 minutes.
Biden was very bad at the start. Biden figured out the flow of things by 10pm but I think that was too late.
People keep disregarding the substance of his arguments
Speaking as someone who thinks that much of the doomerism around the debate is premature…
These debates aren’t about substance. They’re about optics. And Biden didn’t put on a good show last night. The only saving grace is that he was up against Trump.
Put last nights Biden up against any option from the previous primaries. Even Harris. He looked and responded exceptionally poor last night and anyone else would have been a better option.
Or maybe it was Trump who lost the debate and his chances are worse afterwards? Who knows definitely not fucking Newsweek or CNN or Fox or anybody for that matter.
I do know that Trump is a fucking criminal and a human trash pos. So a lot of people won’t be voting for whatever that pile of shit is.
Everyone from Jon Stewart to Pod Save America recognize Biden had one of the worst debate performances in history. Focus groups of undecided voters who watched said Biden lost.
Let’s stay in reality and face the facts. Let’s not stoop to maga alt-reality.
Instead let’s just fix the issue at hand, assuage the concerns of voters, and improve our odds of beating Trump. Because there is no good data to support a Biden victory.
I don’t like this proposal, but I would love a bot that automatically comments with a link to this Wikipedia page anytime something from one of these sites gets posted here
I really would be fine with the proposal. I see no reason why a site like the Epoch Times should be allowed here when their articles are just blatant propaganda and usually also false.
Because when some false and propagandizing crap from the Epoch Times starts blowing up on telegram or twitter or facebook or wherever I’d like to be able to come to this community and find a comment pointing out the lies and bullshit (ideally with links to sources) that I can up vote here and copy and paste to where it’s needed
I should re-phrase - I’d like to be able to scroll through this community’s posts sorted by controversial or new, find a downvoted to hell (as it should be) Epoch Times article that’s getting positive traction on other sites (or even other Lemmy instances), and find within the comments on that post one pointing out why the article/source is bullshit that I can copy and paste elsewhere. Searching through comments is a pain on my preferred mobile app (idk about the desktop web interface, but I can’t imagine it’s a lot better), and it would be just about impossible to know which post’s comments would have the comment saying “oh, btw the Epoch Times is out with some fresh nonsense this morning, they’re claiming x y and z, but in reality a b and c”.
We certainly aren’t going to try a risky move like getting a candidate other than Biden elected. It’s way too late to try to get the name recognition going. People know Biden, they know Trump. You could potentially split the vote which gives Trump the automatic win.
The problem is we’re on course for Trump winning. Trump has voters who like him, he has voters obsessed with him that will oust even other republicans if Trump wills it. He’s also got voters that are just voting against Biden, whoever has the R by their name. Trumps gonna win if all you have are voters that are just voting against Trump. No one’s excited about Biden. Throw in any younger dem politician right now and youll see a dam breaking of voters excited to vote for someone they dont have to worry about getting dementia in office.
You’re preaching to the choir here. If I could throw Biden out and replace him with, I don’t know, Sanders or AOC or someone, I would in a heartbeat.
I agree with you. Trump is, unfortunately, on track to win. And if Trump wins, the death of American democracy is imminent, and none of us are going to like what’s next.
The problem is that the people who agree with your statement aren’t the ones who we need to convince.
In my view too much is on the line to run Biden. He needs to voluntarily step down where then any younger fresh face that isn’t Kamala can win simply by peoples’ excitement for something different and youthful.
I fully agree with you but can also point to all of Biden’s accomplishments and say, well, he’s done very well, surprisingly well, thus far. I would much rather say, it’s exciting to have fresh young blood in the White House that best represents the vast diversity of this country and the hope for its future. Being able to easily defend Biden’s presidency isn’t enough, if I’m being honest. But also, I mean do we really have to go over everything that DT fucked?
Worst election ever.
The problem is we’re not given an opportunity to vote for who we want to be president. We vote against who we don’t want.
After Reagan left office, we learned he had Alzheimer's, and Nancy was governing from the shadows. It didn't come out* until years after he died. 🤷♀️ I don't think he's well, and I thought it's obvious, but I guess people believe what they want to believe. That applies to me, too.
He may or not be in that situation, but if he is, I don't think anyone will tell us, anytime soon.
Yes, tfg was worse and would be worse still. The Democrats see the writing on the wall and are not getting it together rapidly or "radically" enough. I'm aware that's not a popular opinion, but it's what I see, regardless of if everyone not for the other guy gets on board or not.
That’s not going to happen unfortunately, so the choice is Biden or Trump. Want better candidates? Ensure Biden wins and start to promote more progressive candidates in your local elections, then keep supporting them as they climb the political ladder.
Hoping for a last minute candidate swap for the Democrats is just a fantasy.
Ok, fair point, but let’s see how many people continue to push “both sides”, “don’t bother voting”, or “I’m going to vote 3rd party” after the convention.
Anyone that continues to push those talking points is trying to help Trump. Plain and simple.
Wholly agree. I will push back against anyone who suggests that. But personally, I am going to advocate we change our nominee while we have time. And if that doesn’t happen, well sure, I’ll fall in line and vote for Biden or anyone so long as it isnt Trump.
Nah, for starters those votes are of a private party and not the actual general elections. Second, there are protocols in place that allow a change in nominee, and third those votes were a snapshot in time not reflective of where people are necessarily now.
I’m sorry if I’m repeating some other response; often my Lemmy client can’t load sub comments, and I see you already have 6.
I think we’re voting for Kamala. She’s not running because she can’t win, not against Trump, and probably not against anyone else. She’s even more unpopular than Biden, and the Right would have a field day if she were the front runner.
But, frankly, side by side, Trump looks more healthy and robust than Biden, and it’s saying something. If Biden is elected, Kamala will be president before the end of his term.
I don’t know if that’s terrible; I don’t particularly care for her, but she’s better than Trump, and is on the right side of most of the issues I care about. Also, if she did a decent job and had some luck, she’d be able to run again for a second term, and we could get an unusual streak of three liberal(ish) terms.
As for Biden, a president’s staff does most of the real work of any president; I think of a president more like the captain of a large ship: they take a lot of input from the crew, and make decisions. They don’t gather the information or touch the controls; as long as they have a competent team, I suspect nearly anyone could functionally be president. As long as he’s mentally capable of processing the information he’s given and making rational decisions, he can do his job. I’m just no longer convinced he’s going to be capable of that for a full term, and the way he’s looking, I wouldn’t be surprised if he physically failed in the next 4 years.
So: President Harris. I just hope they’re putting effort into making sure she can step into the shoes quickly. If Biden can even win this election.
Biden, though. Dude’s looking like Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little China.
This has been my thought for a long time. You’re basically setting the stage for President Harris. If Biden survive 2 years and 1 day, we can get 10 years of Kamala.
OK. This is a specific reference to something about our laws of succession about which I’m embarrassingly ignorant. Can you save me a web search and elaborate?
You’re allowed to be president two times, this is a constitutional amendment. But for it to count as one time, you have to be president for some fraction longer than 50% of a four year term, i.e. 2 years plus 1 day. So if Biden can survive that long then die, Kamala would be president but it wouldn’t count as a term. She could then run for office twice more.
Thank you! So, in that situation, instead of 3 consecutive terms, we could see 4.
Assuming she’s successful, becomes far more popular, and there are no major crises that work against her.
The most reliable way to get re-elected is to be president when a war starts. Like how Bush Jr engineered 9/11 so he could ensure re-election(*). But it tensions escalated with Russia and we got involved, that’d do it.
(*) Yeah, no. I don’t really believe that. It’s just a joke.
Why would we even want that, though? Harris is a cop, and her presidency would likely be just as impotent and mediocre as Biden’s. Like Biden, she’s going to bend to corporate interests, please no one in the interest of pleasing everyone, not make or advocate for any major protective reforms to the democratic process (ranked choice voting, etc.), and try to take the high road against directly calling out fascism. When will the DNC get it through their heads that their departmental politics and seniority process shouldn’t decide the president-- the people should?
Also, I find it immoral of them to play a horrible game of “switcheroo” with Harris and Biden. It feels like what you’re saying is, they know she’s unpopular and would lose an election, but if we switch her in for Biden through this presidency then everyone will see how great she is! We don’t need an election, we just need the great and powerful DNC to plan our presidents for us!!!
To clarify in case it isn’t obvious, I am a trans, disabled leftist. But this is EXACTLY why Trump is so popular and why everyone hates the DNC.
This is just as relevant for Trump. His running mate matters. Neither of them are statistically likely to survive a second term in office. One of them is a little bit older and appears to be more frail. The other one has a terrible diet with no exercise and could keel over from a heart attack or a stroke at any moment.
We should be talking about the VP picks much more than anyone is.
Yah, absolutely. I’m frankly a little surprised Trump is still alive.
We know who Biden’s running mate is going to be, unless there’s a surprise upset. Trump’s is still up in the air and the weasels are currently fighting for it.
We are going to get less than ideal candidates until the voting system changes. I think it might be the one point of agreement with most voters in this country that we need a new voting system because first past the post isn’t working well.
In that case the issue is that it’s user generated content. Just as you’d cite the references listed after a Wikipedia article for the source of that information rather than Wikipedia itself, Wikipedia policy favors references to established publications over those compiled by users in a manner similar to Wikipedia itself.
For the information to be verifiable, its original source has to be both clear and reputable.
What’s better than any voting system is average people getting involved in their local political communities, but that’s hard and requires effort and might expose you to people who disagree with you so the internet doesn’t like that.
Jones is just doing it again, pitting the family’s against each other while he shoves money into every hole, family bussiness and off shore bank he can get his filthy mitts on. He’s guilty. He has assets. Sell them off and split the money between the families who won settlements. HOW HARD IS IT!??
A fashy coward attacks helpless woman and child over them being of another nationality, only to stab a courageos bystander of his own. Let him rot in hell for all years he stole from her and wanted to steal from others.
Both capital punishment and waving 25 years off are extremes not worth picking, imho. In a somehow sane world the latter would land Abbot’s ass himself in the court.
Every one of these cases is a failure of a society as a whole, may it big or small. Maybe it’s an edge case, or a person with a mental condition whose actions we missed a chance to counteract in time. But from what I hear I can assume chinese propaganda encourages nationalistic feelings and some kind of a new chinese identity to keep their social fabric intact and productive, patriotic, and it seems that this person may as well be a byproduct of that. They have a personal responsibility for what they did, but killing them off wouldn’t bring the dead woman back. He is a man, not a rabid dog, and just killing him doesn’t solve anything but saving taxes, maybe. The goal is to start undoing the same corruption in others, and killing them cold is not encouraging for them to be open to be healed.
The same applies to why mentally ill persons don’t self-report before they slip, do something and get caught in most countries.
I was pressed for time when filing this year, so I didn't want to experiment with the IRS' new program and just went with FreeTaxUSA since I knew it would be fast and have my data from last year saved. For those who tried the new program this year, how was it?
I itemized for the first time this year so I couldn’t use it, but I did fill it out completely as a comparison point to make sure itemizing was worth it. It was pretty painless, not very different from free filing through various other companies.
I got halfway through it and one of the forms I needed to use was not supported, so I basically wasted my time testing it out. I don’t remember the form, but I felt like it was a basic thing.
I went with FreeTaxUSA as I always do and it was good as always.
I think having to fill out tax forms instead of the government just telling you what you owe is pretty insane and this IRS program does nothing to resolve the actual issue.
The problem is that the actual government is the one requiring me to use a third party company, that is not part of the government, for me to give them information so that the government can verify who I am.
I use FreeTaxUSA, and never had to do ID.me.
It’s an arbitrary requirement, that is stupid in the sense that the GOVERNMENT knows everything about me so WHY should I need to use a COMPANY’S bullshit to verify that?
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