When I was a kid, gas stations in Indiana had “self-serve” and “full-serve” (they pump it for you) options. I’m not sure why they stopped. Probably to save money by hiring less people.
I hate pumping my own gas. It’s dirty, it smells, the machine is always different in every company, so you have to get used to a new thing if you go to some place you don’t usually go to, and if the weather is bad, you have to stand out in the cold and wind. I’d absolutely pay a premium not to do that. Maybe not 100% of the time, but often.
Everyone in this thread is complaining about other people’s job for them like they actually care. It’s just a job for someone. Sure, it’s a stupid law but someone is being paid to do it, it isn’t slavery and you never said it was a first world problem. People are so fucking sensitive but pretend to care about others so they can make a post to get upvotes.
Gas pumps are pretty standardized, I’ve traveled all over the country and not once have I looked at a gas pump and been like “how the fuck do I use this?”, that sounds like a personal problem.
Either you put the card in the slot or tap it on the reader. I’ve never seen any pump do it differently. And they all have prompts on the screen that walk you through it if you’re confused.
If you really can’t handle it, you can go in and ask for 10 gallons on pump 3 or whatever.
A hess gas station I was at a few years ago put regular in the middle instead of on the left. Started pumping before I noticed. Also, as I totally believe you about driving all over the country, you should know that octane levels vary a bit in places like Wyoming.
Pumps now also include ads as you pump your gas too. Now we’ll be able to stand in the rain listening to ads while we pay the same price to pump our own gas and then get our credit card skimmed because nobody is around to watch the pumps at night.
When I did the job in OR about 10 years ago, it wasn’t expected. More of a “oh hey here’s a dollar for washing my windshield while it pumped” or “$48.60? Here’s a 50, keep the change”, if anything.
Do I need a scientific study to know that me getting out of my car and pumping my own gas is faster than waiting for an attendant to come over, take my card, ask me which gas grade I want, whether or not to fill it up, have them walk away to service other customers, mine finished while they’re in the middle of talking to someone else, now I wait for them to come back over…
Do you ask questions this stupid in real life, or are you just being dumb online?
The rest of the country figured out how to use a credit card terminal and pump their own gas decades ago. Welcome to 2023 - we don’t have flying cars, but even grandma knows how Apple Pay works.
Guess work smart, not harder isn’t your thing. I’ll sit in my nice AC/heat in the summer/winter and let the guy pump my gas in pretty much exactly the same amount of time that it would take me to do it. Keep on keepin on, tough guy
Y’all are BOTH making invalid arguments. There are pros and cons to both methods. You have each grown accustomed to one way and the other way seems strange to each of you. It’s not like one of you is wrong and one right.
I grew up in Oregon but have pumped gas when traveling in other states. Getting out to pump your gas is a minor inconvenience. Waiting for an attendant to serve you is a minor inconvenience. Each of you is simply used to a different minor inconvenience.
That’s not a good argument. The workers are being paid to do the job. The same way Garbage collecters, crossing guards, etc are being paid to be outside.
Idk why you are getting downvoted. I agree, they are getting paid to do it and if they want to do something different, there’s menial, low level jobs everywhere. It’s not at the expense of someone else, and why are other people complaining about someone else’s job for them? What if they don’t mind it? What if they really need the money and it’s just a job and it’s fine? I’m not saying it’s not a stupid law or anything but jeez people. Chill.
How about health? Nobody should have to work a job that puts their future health at risk, especially a pointless job such as this. There are not a ton of studies on it but the ones that have been done show some of the effects from breathing in fumes majority of the day and it does negatively effect you where it could lead to higher % of complications later on. Of course people will argue against these claims, but who really wants to find out? It’s a job nobody should have to do so nobody should have to take the risk at all.
Should we also eliminat landscaping jobs due to the negative health risk? They’re have to work in the blazing heat of the summer, using loud equipment, breathing in fumes. According to you, we should ban landscaping companies, and make everyone take care of the own lawns and yards.
Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?
Many jobs have some sort of health risk, gas attendents included.
Once again, I am not for or against the law in NJ. If they got rid of the law tomorrow, than I couldn’t care less. I’m perfectly capable of pumping my own gas, and have done so both in and out of state. I just like the convenience of not having to do it.
Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?
So you provide one picture, and that is supposed to negate my argument? There are still flaggers being employed, and you completely ignore the rest of my previous comment.
This is such a ridiculous take. If we can get rid of a dangerous job, we should. If we can’t, they should get extra money as hazard pay, not minimum wage or just above it. If the argument is, but that job isn’t hard, maybe just maybe we shouldn’t mandate it exist just for the sake of having anything and actually take care of people.
Pretty sure landscapers don’t get paid well enough to work such a dangerous job. Almost everyone should capable of mowing there own lawn in 100 degree weather, right?
Their* and you seem to have missed the mandate and conditional portions of my comment. I never said make the job illegal. I said don’t mandate it exists. Funny how that’s different.
Oh no, I accidentally a word. Hope you feel better now you’ve corrected me.
So how about we come an agreement. You start focusing on getting rid of this law in NJ. Petition the state reps, or whatever. Heck, let me know you start, and I’ll sign petition as well. Meanwhile, I’ll continue to focus on planting trees and flowers to attract more pollinaters back to my community. I already have enough to worry, and I can’t focus on every little thing that affects every single by myself.
I used to change people’s oil for a living and get soaked in the stuff all day long. We should ban lube shops too as changing your own oil is super easy and only takes minutes to do yourself.
Pumping gas isn't hard to do. I drive through Jersey sometimes and although I'm always happy that their gas runs a bit cheaper, I'm always annoyed that I can't just get out and do it and be on my way.
The reenactment is part of a lawsuit by the victims’ families and the wounded that accuses the Broward County deputy assigned to the school, Scot Peterson, of failing in his duty to protect them and their loved ones. Peterson, who was acquitted at a criminal trial in June, has said that because of echoes he could not pinpoint the shooter’s location.
David Brill, the attorney overseeing the reenactment on behalf of the families, did not return a call from The Associated Press seeking comment Friday. He told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel that 49 rounds were fired Friday and that the test showed Peterson would have heard the shots and known their location.
That must’ve been one of the most useless regulations. Is that just about jobs? I can’t really imagine it being a security risk issue or any other reason
Yeah, jobs. And yeah, it was fucking stupid. Imagine outlawing opening the front door to any business, so that every business would have to hire greeters to generate jobs. Same same.
It’s just welfare, but in its cruelest possible form. If we’re going to require someone to piss 8 hours of their day away contributing nothing to society (worse than nothing in practice… gassing up in Oregon took FOREVER cuz you’d be stuck waiting for an attendant to serve a backup of 15 cars) just so that person can collect a pay check… why not just give them the pay check with no strings attached? Then they can use that time to improve themselves, or at the very least, not spend their waking hours inhaling gasoline fumes and ruining their knees and such.
Protect people, not jobs. Robots and AI are replacing most of us soon anyway: mandating busywork is NOT the solution to getting food on everyone’s table.
The constitution was written like the federal government was more the EU than a single country. States have always been able to take away rights that aren’t specifically in the constitution, like education.
It’s a flaw, because states are not separate countries anymore, and it’s a flaw that’s being exploited hard, but preventing republicans from using that flaw would require branches of government that weren’t corrupt.
Considering the geographic, economic, and cultural differences among the states, I prefer the strong state argument. You think giving more power to the Federal government is good because you assume those in power will align with your ideals. What happens when you assume wrong and someone like DeSantis has the keys to the White House?
I’m more in the camp of we half-assed it. Strong state? Cool, let’s downgrade the federal government to “economic block” instead of “republic”. Strong federal? Great, why are we letting 50 mini-governments screw over our citizens?
Having both lets bad players point at others and declare it’s their fault.
I do think strong federal government is gonna be inevitable, because they won’t give back power they have, but I’m not cheering it on.
The writers of the Constitution never expected wealth and corruption like we have today… So they didn’t explicitly plan against it, which Republicans use as a right to do anything…
They absolutely did, they were the wealthy class and wrote the Constitution to benefit them more heavily then anyone else. What you’re seeing is that compounded by time and leftward progression. The right freaking the fuck out is because they see if they don’t correct back to 1860 they’re going to be irrelevant grumpy old men screaming at the sky for being closer then in their youth.
I can’t see myself headed back to Oregon any time soon, but good. It was so frustrating trying to get gas behind a line of twenty five cars being “served” by a single slack jawed yokel taking smoke breaks between each car and God help you if you needed gas at night when everybody was closed.
New Jersey gas attendants can be surly, but my experiences driving there at least moved the cars through getting gas efficiently.
As someone from NJ I agree 100% with surly. Also you can get someone weird or the guy who just wants to talk the entire time. I really do hope this changes one day.
Having lived in NJ most of my life, and recently driving almost cross country to FL, the only benefits of living in FL is that there are like never any lines waiting for gas, and I don’t have to wait for a guy to come out. I just pull up, fill up, and GTFO.
I fucking hate this state. I’ve been here for 9 months, and hate every part of it. The water is fucking disgusting, the heat is absurd, the traffic is ridiculous, the roads are shit, the beaches are shit, the people are… mentally handicapped is the nicest way to put it, the food is meh at best unless you want Cuban or something fried. There are absolutely no cultural things, like museums or anything that’s not hick crap. Went to a ship museum in Tampa with my kids, and it was a rusted out hulk of a boat.
Enjoy the cultural overload of the excess of museums, including the Nimitz, the amazing and huge variety of food, the cooler weather, really good pizza, and amazing pizza if you get closer to NYC, water that doesn’t smell like sewage until it’s ran for a minute or 2, water that doesn’t destroy your pots pans, and basically rust everything, you lucky bastard.
Oh yeah, and go fruit picking other than oranges, because you can just hit up dozens and dozens of orchards for all kinds of fruit picking, without sweating your balls off, pretty much any time of year.
Also, it’s called pork roll. Anyone that tells you it’s Taylor Ham is a monster, because Taylor Ham is the company that makes pork roll. Pork Roll with egg and cheese is a cure-all. Hangover, depression, snacky, quick breakfast, hungry, and dying? Yeah pork roll with egg and cheese on a roll will solve all your problems. If you have extra problems, add bacon and double meat. Pork roll with bacon, egg, and cheese on a hard roll will cure all your problems.
I drove through Oregon and that threw me off when I was at the gas pump. What a weird law. Someone must have super fucked up to get that law pushed in the first place lol.
“Free” in the sense that the state(s) cannot interfere with what is taught. It’s the same meaning of “free” as in “land of the free”, not as in “free beer”.
However, all public tuition (primary school, secondary school, and universities) really is free as in “free beer”. Only kindergarten and private schools aren’t.
I’m literally an educator, I understand the value in a base nation wide curricula - that doesn’t mean we aren’t given freedom to focus on learners needs.
And frankly nearly everything America does is fucked up in some way or another, hardly an indictment for or against pursuing something.
Not to mention the fact that Germany apparently does have some restrictions in place shows that I’m right.
You’ve encouraged me to look into this further. Apparently, I interpreted these freedoms wrong. They seem (in my limited undestanding) to be more about research and university teaching than “regular” schools. That is, researches can look into anything they want, but teachers can’t teach whatever they want.
There are curriculums, issued by the individual states, that are binding for schools and teachers. This should’ve told me immediately that education can’t be as free as I thought.
I agree with you that there should be “minimums in educational curriculum”. There’s an ongoing debate that education should be more standardized across the states, but as it is now, even different schools within the same state have different exams that are not all equally difficult to pass.
Luckily, article 5, paragraph 3 has two senteces: " The arts, sciences, research and education are free. The freedom of education does not release from the loyalty to the constitution"
Improtantly, article 5, paragraph 3 has two senteces: " The arts, sciences, research and education are free. The freedom of education does not release from the loyalty to the constitution"
Furthermore, this freedom of “research and education” means “scientific research and education” and thus primarily prohibits the German state of deciding what is researched and thaugt at universities. There are state mandated curricula for all public schools.
I hope that jack Smith had this as part of his strategic plan and knew this was coming. I really want to believe that he actually does have 9 dimensional chess abilities like the media has been reporting, but the media…
Hurray! And then, if we can all stop pretending that pregnancy is magic and babies are awesome, maybe mothers will feel less monstrous when they’re struggling and more willing to seek help.
Pregnancy and mothering an infant was the hardest and worst extended period in my life - I’ve had individual, shorter worse experiences, but that was the longest stretch of misery I’ve had. Meanwhile, people were telling me that I should savor every moment because it just gets harder! 🤦😂 I can laugh about that now, but jfc did it make me suicidal to think that!
If you’re suffering through that period too and surrounded by people telling you how awesome it is - maybe that was their experience, but it’s totally okay if it isn’t yours, because it wasn’t mine either, but things got better. Once your child can communicate, that lessens the difficulty dramatically. And if you ever wanna bitch to a sympathetic mom who is open about the shitshow it all can be, I am here for it. ❤️
I’m sorry you had to go through that. Totally agree with you about the whole thing. I was a happy oblivious dad to be, right up to the point where we lost the little bean. Nobody told me that a LOT of pregnancies turn out to be a dud. If I knew beforehand, I would’ve been better prepared. Alas, I was not prepared and it broke my heart. There’s a whole other side to pregnancies. When can we finally be realistic about it? That would be so helpful for all new moms and dads.
Thank you, kind internet person. I wish you all the best. Hopefully we can do small things in our communities to spread some knowledge and help those around us to deal with these things. ❤️
From the US DOT “FlyRights” page (which is woefully inadequate):
Some flights are delayed on the airport “tarmac” before taking off or after landing. DOT rules prohibit most U.S. airlines from allowing a domestic flight to remain on the tarmac for more than three hours unless:
the pilot determines that there is a safety or security reason why the aircraft cannot taxi to the gate and deplane its passengers, or
Air traffic control advises the pilot that taxiing to the gate (or to another location where passengers can be deplaned) would significantly disrupt airport operations.
U.S. airlines operating international flights to or from most U.S.airports must each establish and comply with their own limit on the length of tarmac delays on those flights. On both domestic and international flights, U.S. airlines must provide passengers with food and water no later than two hours after the tarmac delay begins. While the aircraft remains on the tarmac lavatories must remain operable and medical attention must be available if needed.
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