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Neato , in Texas prisoner accused of killing 22 older women is slain by cellmate while serving life sentence
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Chemirmir’s death comes about two weeks after Texas’ 100 prisons were placed on a rare statewide lockdown because of a rise in the number of killings inside the facilities, which prisons officials have said were related to drugs.

So prisons can't maintain the one thing they are there for: security. The prisons or the government funding them are allowing this to happen. They are complicit in homicide. Society judged this man and sentenced him to life, not to execution. Being lax in duty resulting is death is negligent homicide.

CTdummy ,

Given prisons in the US are pretty much a source of slave labour and the fact that a lot of these guards are on the take (hence drugs seemingly be freely available in practically any prison) this failure of duty seems more like business as usual.

Rakonat ,

Given the culture that surrounds prisoners, this isn’t surprising at all.

The prisons themselves are just for profit with zero interest in rehabilitation or otherwise turning those in their custody into productive members of society. Yes, there are programs to teach skills or education to prisoners available, but in almost all cases these are either operated by outside organizations and thus don’t cost the prison any money, or completing the program lets the prison take advantage of any certification or qualification earned, generating more revenue for the prison.

Prisons intentionally make people live in the lowest quality of life possible by law, and would reduce the conditions further to save money were there not laws to prevent that. They justify this because prisoners are being punished, even when that mentality is proven wrong time and time again, specifically in how wealthy or influential prisoners are allowed to make improvements to their own personal living conditions, rather than having to live like the general (poorer) population of the system.

Don’t ever fool yourself into thinking US prisoners care one bit about a prisoner’s security or safety, they would put all the prisoners into medicated comas and hang them up on meat racks if the law allowed it and it was cheaper than shoving them in cells. As long as they get paid for every day they hold a prisoner they don’t care about any other aspect that doesn’t cost them money to ignore. They only care about prisoners killing other prisoners because the state won’t pay them to hold a dead body.

Klinker ,

As a non American, what is the concept of for profit prisons?

Anarki_ ,

They exist to generate profit from suffering. That’s it.

Rakonat ,

Same thing as for profit healthcare.

Taking a service of a civilized society, gutting it od everything that gives it value and charging obsense amounts of money for it.

Privatized anything just ende up being some corporation making somethint worse for money

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Even worst… For profit prison companies go to poor towns, and promise jobs. And you need prisoners to have security jobs.

So you have this feedback loop where police arrest people and the courts give them prison sentences because well, we got a nice fancy empty prison and the town needs those jobs.

Dark_Arc ,
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The lemmy circle jerk is real when it comes to law enforcement and capitalism hate.

The idea is that rather than the government running prisons at a loss, private companies run the prisons, and the jobs the prisoners do make a profit for the prison’s owners. The imprisonment itself just constitutes an expense.

It kind of makes sense on paper (“well they broke the law why are we paying all this money to support their lives!??”), but it’s a bad idea in practice as it creates the wrong incentives. You end up with entities that desire more people in prisons because that’s how they grow their profit margins… and that obviously comes with some sketchy implications (e.g. lobbying for more non-violent offenders to get jail time, longer sentences, etc).

Sir_Kevin ,
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I love how they blame drugs when Texas prisons have been hitting record-breaking temperatures. Enough so to cause deaths. But yeah, drugs are the problem…

Aside from that, this guy probably fucked with the wrong one. Someone probably wanted this asshole gone.

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  • FlyingSquid ,
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    We have a constitution that forbids cruel and unusual punishment and you want prison gladiators.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    Hey everyone, look! This is a person who has never read a book about prison reform! They literally know nothing about how the for-profit prison system looks like!

    Coreidan ,

    So prisons can’t maintain the one thing they are there for: security.

    Oh ya? Says who? And security for who?

    If you think prisons are here to keep prisoners safe you are 100% misinformed.

    In America prisons are for-profit. Their only job is to make sure you stay there and don’t return to the public. Whether you stay safe or not isn’t a concern to them. They don’t give a fuck about your well being.

    In America prisons are designed to be cruel, not to rehabilitate.

    Neato ,
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    While I understand the sentiment, it is patently false.

    In America prisons are designed to be cruel, not to rehabilitate.

    This is unconstitutional and illegal, besides. Therefore the governments and the victims are well within their rights to hold the prisons accountable and liable.

    Discoslugs ,
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    This is unconstitutional and illegal, besides.

    Someone call the police!

    IthronMorn ,

    Actually it’s totally constitutional. Check your 14th amendment.

    Neato ,
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    Uh, Citation Needed.

    Equal protection for protected classes in prison isn't relevant when the issue is prisons not properly protecting their inmates.

    GladiusB ,
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    Prove it. That’s the issue. It’s systemic and hard to prove that it’s from the top down. Even if you can get some instances, then you need many forms of evidence. Which has a way of disappearing or waiting so long that witnesses die.

    janus2 , in Alabama band director tased by police for not stopping his students' performance
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    Big Director Energy

    FarceMultiplier , (edited ) in Pennsylvania adds automatic voter registration when renewing driver's licenses
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    But what will the Republicans think?! /s (who cares)

    sbv , in US anti-child trafficking activist resigns after sexual harassment allegations

    According to the report, Ballard invited female staff and volunteers to accompany him on overseas missions playing the role of his wife, then would coerce them into sharing his bed or showering together by telling them it was necessary to fool traffickers.

    Vice said it had spoken with many of the women. One, it said, received photographs of Ballard in only his underwear, showing off a number of fake tattoos; another was asked “how far she was willing to go” to save enslaved children.

    dylanmorgan ,

    “They’re watching our every move, so we need to have sex and you need to act like you’re reeeeaaallly into it, okay? Like, lots of screaming about how big I am and how I’m amazing in bed, okay?”

    Blumpkinhead ,

    “Now stick this old corn cob up my ass and pinch my nipples.”

    Cruxifux ,

    What the actual fuck

    What a huge piece of shit

    xHoudek , in US anti-child trafficking activist resigns after sexual harassment allegations

    True combo

    evatronic , in Alabama band director tased by police for not stopping his students' performance

    This becomes suddenly far more understandable when you open the article and notice the band director isn’t white.

    timicin ,

    and it'll also explain why nothing will come of it too.

    Sir_Kevin ,
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    The police will investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing.

    Illuminostro ,

    There’s a word for this situation. I can’t remember it, but it’s reich there, white on the tip of my tongue…

    DarkDarkHouse ,
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    But he couldn’t be racist, his wife’s best eye is black.

    clay_pidgin ,

    That’s tremendous. If you came up with that, good job.

    S_204 ,

    Absolutely beauty of a joke right there. Thank you.

    Illuminostro ,

    Lmao, I’m going to use that, you magnificent bastard!

    treefrog ,

    I opened the article just to see and wasn’t at all surprised.

    Hazdaz ,

    Did you actually watch the video to see that 1/2 the cops and people telling him to stop were also not white, or do you enjoy getting race-baited??

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  • JokeDeity ,

    I don’t even think that they’re racist in the same way as white officers, or at least not all of them. I think for a portion it’s like a Stockholm syndrome kind of thing where they finally are working side by side with their oppressors and want to be part of the in club and will do anything to get there.

    JustAManOnAToilet , in Bankrupt Birmingham city council may have to sell libraries and art galleries

    Nigel Mansell should auction off a moustache to help.

    thejml , in Texas prisoner accused of killing 22 older women is slain by cellmate while serving life sentence

    Well, that still counts as a life sentence.

    originalucifer , in Alabama band director tased by police for not stopping his students' performance
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    arrested not for breaking any law, but for 'not complying' where the office had no real reason to order anyone to do anything... and then charged with resisting.

    the usa sucks.

    Neato ,
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    I don't think that was a lawful order, anyways. And police have absolutely no authority to command citizens for anything but lawful orders.

    Aidinthel ,

    Except in the sense that they have weapons and are rarely punished for using them. There’s what the law says and then there’s the reality that if some cop gives you an order you have to choose between obeying and betting your life he’s not going to escalate.

    Sir_Kevin ,
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    I would think this is a First Amendment violation as well. I hope this guy gets a payday.

    klemptor ,

    I hope it comes from the police pension fund!

    Chocrates ,

    It always comes from the city. Police budgets are not effected by payouts.

    klemptor ,

    I guess I mean I wish it would come from the pension.

    Chocrates ,

    Me too friend. I feel like the only way to make them reform without disbanding and rebuilding them would be to hit them in the capitalism. Right now they don’t risk anything. The absolute worst case is getting fired and then just getting a new job in the next suburb over, but usually they just get a paid vacation.

    Wrench ,

    The officer captured on his own camera that his reason for the arrest was “he was disrespectful”

    Yep. Says it all.

    jonne ,

    Hey now, at least he didn’t say uppity. Because you know that’s what he wanted to say.

    Th4tGuyII ,
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    Of course he broke the law - he hurt the officer's feelings. That's the worst law you can possibly break! /s

    But seriously though. Cops got butthurt, and so they aggravated the situation, and used the fact that the poor man panicked when being manhandled as the reason to arrest him in the first place. What kind of circular reasoning bullshit is that??

    originalucifer ,
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    the poor man panicked when being manhandled as the reason to arrest him in the first place

    this is a primary tactic of all police in the united states. all of them.

    i would assume its part of the pathetic training they receive which includes things like 'most cops will die on the job, the public is trying to kill you 100% of the time'

    Chocrates ,

    Yeah, cops are trained that they are at war with the public. We need to fix that shit

    treefrog ,

    He was black, in public, and not licking a pigs boot. In Alabama.

    Racist cop tazes black teacher. Would have been my pick for a headline.

    JustAManOnAToilet , in Alabama band director tased by police for not stopping his students' performance

    Just wanted to electrify the performance.

    Fraylor , in Texas prisoner accused of killing 22 older women is slain by cellmate while serving life sentence

    Probably couldn’t stop running his mouth. Most in cell fights/stabbings etc happen due to that kinda shit.

    NotBadAndYou , in Pennsylvania adds automatic voter registration when renewing driver's licenses

    Oregon here: Welcome to the club! Now you just need to work on mail-in voting, and you’ll be living the good great life!

    ULTIMATE_FUCKTRUMPET , in Texas prisoner accused of killing 22 older women is slain by cellmate while serving life sentence

    Wow… now that’s some fucked up shit.

    JustAManOnAToilet , in Missing kayaker faked his own death ahead of court date: Sheriff

    “indecent liberties” is certainly one way to word that in your code of laws.

    vivadanang ,

    Doesn’t quite communicate “child rapist” as it should…

    mack7400 ,

    Nor “fucking up a child’s life just to get some jollies”.

    flossdaily , in House GOP pulls key vote to advance stopgap government funding bill

    Remember folks, all this disfunction would be over in a heartbeat if only the moderate Republicans would choose to work with the moderate Democrats instead of the nazi-loving, insurrection-abetting traitors on the alt-right.

    MinusPi ,
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    In any group, if the good ones don’t weed out the bad ones, they’re not good ones.

    Lmaydev ,

    A bad apple spoils the whole bunch and all that.

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