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deweydecibel , (edited ) in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

Every single time the word Boomer is in the title, people rush to comments to make these insults.

The article isn’t describing a necessarily bad thing. It’s just noting a trend.

There are many reasons behind this shift in our society, including the economic gains women made when they entered the workforce and changing attitudes toward marriage.

Like…this article has absolutely nothing to do with boomers getting their comeuppance. It’s just about a shift in societal behavior. People are getting divorced later in life because it’s more acceptable to do so now and women can support themselves better on their own than when these people got married.

missveeronica ,

The circlejerk of Lemmy is real. It’s the same thing that was so visible on Reddit and the irony is that everyone on Lemmy, even the ones participating in the circlejerk are patting these on the back on how better they are than reddit.

kobra ,

Humans doing shitty groupthink things with other humans? I for one am shocked.

MagicShel ,

I spent like an hour typing out a counterpoint to “SFH bad. Cars bad. Owning things bad.” Then I just deleted it. Nothing good could possibly come from it. It doesn’t give anyone anything to think about, it just labels me a bad guy. Fuck it. Their opinion doesn’t hurt me - it’ll take decades if not longer to make a shift like that. I don’t care where y’all live after I die. So silence it is.

VediusPollio ,
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It’s exhausting, and far worse than Reddit.

SeedyOne ,

This is just what the Internet has become, it’s not the specific protocol or hosted site. Years of people crying over how “reddit” behaves as an entity are already starting to complain here but they need to step back and realize it’s the nature of the beast.

Acknowledge, adapt and move on.

riskable ,
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I agree, fellow lemming! Let us follow this path together in solidarity.

demvoter ,
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Well, the subheadline did say this “raising big questions about the country’s future” which is just bullshit.

AThing4String ,

To be fair, Baby Boomers are actually statistically the reason divorce rates are so high, and also why they’ve been going down recently.

Not trying to be insulting, just wanting to speak about the statistics I’ve read, so I’ll try to use the full generation title to distinguish.

Speaking about the generation as a general group, Baby Boomers had many marriages and many divorces per capita. Your stereotypical “on my fifth wife” dudes were Baby Boomers and were a disproportionate percentage of marriages that ended in divorce - basically “Divorce Georg”.

From a statistics perspective, a large part of the reason divorce rates are going down these days are because as people get older, they tend to settle down and have less energy for those kind of antics basically, and the rate of Baby Boomers marriages and divorces was slowing down in response - with other generations being pretty much stable.

So on that level I’m not particularly surprised that those attitudes towards divorce are still affecting them in old age. It does pose interesting questions for our elder care infrastructure (or lack thereof) though.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

This reminded me.

As a kid, I was so used to meeting adults who were on their 2nd or 3rd marriage. It felt super common.

But now im hitting 40 and only a small fraction of my friends are divorced.

SheeEttin ,

Fewer people getting married. A lot of my friends are long-term common-law partners, but never do the actual marriage.

Kelsenellenelvial ,

Maybe it’s just the people I know personally, but it seems like very few have gone through multiple marriages. Most seem to just skip the formal marriage thing the second time around, even if those relationships last much longer than the ones that lead to divorce.

Drinvictus , in Texas Judge Says Doctors Can Use ‘Good Faith Judgment’ in Providing Abortions

I’m finishing my residency training soon and even though I am not an ob provider I would never ever work in Texas, Florida or anywhere that has laws against routine medical practices

jayrhacker ,
@jayrhacker@kbin.social avatar

Seriously, it's a shame there isn't a large powerful association of medical professionals that could push back against government interference in medical care

FlyingSquid ,
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It’s a shame that association isn’t doing everything it can to get universal healthcare too.

CrypticFawn , in Feds alert judge to Trump’s ‘If you go after me, I’m coming after you!’ post
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Trump is incapable of not saying or doing stupid shit.

ChrisLicht ,

Feral genius presents as saying stupid shit.

The guy is a monster but somehow slips the snare over and over again.

I would love to lose the bet, but my money is on time, nullification, or pardon ensuring that he isn’t particularly inconvenienced by the four indictments.

scorpious , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

Living longer (and in better shape) means choosing quality of life over tradition and expectations of others.

FinallyDebunked , (edited )
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No one in their right mind would pick loneliness over relationships

dragonflyteaparty ,

Not everyone living alone is lonely or not in a relationship. My grandmother-in-law lives alone and had a male “friend” who she was very close with. Living alone didn’t make her lonely. She was just very Catholic and only got married once.

FinallyDebunked ,
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LOL what? She probably just wants some dick on the side while keeping up appearances as a good little Catholic housewife.

boogetyboo ,
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You ok, mate?

captainlezbian ,

Yeah you’re absolutely right. So consider how bad those relationships must be

rynzcycle , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

I always knew my father was an asshole to my mom. Nothing abusive, just an insensitive typical boomer man. But it wasn't until years after they divorced, in their late 50s, that I saw him change for the better, and realized her far more passive aggressive attacks towards him.

They made each other miserable, and while I don't think either of them is really happy still, they are definitely better off than before.

TheWoozy ,

“Typical boomer man”? That’s a pretty broad statement.

Metaright , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’
@Metaright@kbin.social avatar

Heyck says she got divorced in her 50s after her son turned 18.

“It was really more of a working relationship than a full marriage,” she says, and Heyck was emotionally ready to be on her own.

But the financial transition, she says, wasn’t easy. For years, she struggled to make ends meet, living with roommates and couch-surfing as she waited for a spot to open in income-adjusted senior housing.

“I was an artist. I lived on the edge financially. I didn’t have a 401(k) … I always thought that I would be married. That was the big surprise,” she says.

How was it a "big surprise" when it's implied that she wanted the divorce to happen? You have an unstable job, divorce your spouse, and then go all surprised Pikachu when it occurs to you that your finances are unstable?

average650 ,
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There are a lot of divorced people who like it play the victim when it was painfully obvious what they were giving up to everyone but them. Divorce is horrible.

There are of course many who have escaped abused through divorce, so I don’t want to act like they are all the same, but man can people be selfish.

AwkwardPenguin , in Jan. 6 Prosecutors Ask for Protective Order, Citing Threatening Trump Post

Paywall bot please?

takeda ,
billwashere ,

Upvote this and not mine. Not sure what happened but the link got buried in formatting somehow so I just stripped it away. takeda should get credit for providing the actual link to non-paywalled content.

Sharpiemarker ,

Thank you for reminding me about archive.is!

Sharpiemarker ,

“12ft.io is disabled for this site”

billwashere ,
kittenbridgeasteroid , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

It’s not surprising. I mean, there’s a reason jokes about hating your spouse are called boomer jokes.

TheWoozy ,

Those jokes predate boomers by at least 2 generations. In fact, they became much less acceptable to boomers. Their trend is continuing.

takeda , in Jan. 6 Prosecutors Ask for Protective Order, Citing Threatening Trump Post

This is absolutely how he should be handled from the start. A lot of people dismissed him "because he is an idiot" and that enabled him to cause damage to our country.

catshit_dogfart , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

You know, sometimes I think if my mother hadn’t passed away, things with my parents would’ve gone this route.

I had moved out, dad was spending more time at home, and she couldn’t stand him anymore because he’s an obnoxious racist.

captainlezbian ,

Yeah if my mom didn’t get cancer she was going to leave at almost 50 when I graduated high school

just_ducky_in_NH ,

I’m sorry for your loss. That must have been traumatic.

captainlezbian ,

Yeah it certainly wasn’t great for my mental health

lasagna , in The first pill to treat postpartum depression has been approved by US health officials
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Is there a reason why it happens? Like how for example stress and anxiety aren’t intrinsically bad but rather things that helped keep us alive.

Uprise42 , in To fix the labor shortage, economists point to women - and better child care

The cost of childcare is absolutely insane. My wife is staying at home. She is looking for something part time to get some extra cash.

She got a position at a day care
Our child goes to the top of the list since she’s employed there
We do not get a discount on child care with her working there

Her monthly pay will be ~1100
Our monthly cost to put our daughter there will be $2000

It costs more for my wife to work than it would to be stay at home.

GiddyGap OP ,

It’s truly insane.

And it’s mind boggling to me that there are so many great solutions that have been in use for decades in other developed countries, but the US refuses to take any cues, because that’s “socialism” or whatever. It’s tiresome.

TheDarkKnight , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

Lemme whip out my tiniest violin to express my sympathies for the generation that completely fucked over our entire species with their selfish choices.

Hank ,

Man I'm on my magical journey to become the most cynical person who ever lived myself but c'mon. There are better reasons to hate someone than their age like for example their weight, fashion choice, how they sound or how much they're into mechanical keyboards.

Burn_The_Right ,

Those goddamned keyboards. All I hear in this house is the constant clacking and tapping drowning out every goddamned thought I ever hoped to have. I can’t get through a single episode of Bonanza without the incessant claxon of feckless tip-tappery. Fuck those goddamned things!

Maybe I should get a different keyboard.

CeruleanRuin ,
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It’s fun to trash the whole post-war generation, but we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that they were just as victimized by class warfare as we are. They benefited from the economic boom and were then lulled by their own masters into believing it was sustainable and things would be just as good for their own kids and grandkids. They were lied to too.

Never forget that the real enemy isn’t any one group except for the oligarchs and leeches at the top of the economic ladder. We shouldn’t focus our ire on those people in between us and the top. They’re not the ones controlling the taps on the river of shit flowing down.

Tylerdurdon ,

Dude! You’re a keyboard denyist! For shame! He who clicketies, shall clack for us all!

Kikkertje ,

I’m getting so tired of the boomer bashing. It’s lazy and just helps to divide us even more. Isn’t that what the people with power want?

deweydecibel , (edited )

Sympathy for what? This is about women being able to divorce their husbands now and support themselves, so it’s happening later in life for a generation that got married early and didn’t really have this option to separate cleanly.

If anything this is a good thing. It means women aren’t* trapped in marriages with shitty men forever. I don’t care what you think about any specific generation, that’s a good trend for everyone.

Edit: typo

afraid_of_zombies ,

Didn’t have this option? If you are in your 50s you were born in the 70s and you were married in the 90s. Did everyone forget time was a thing?

Misconduct ,

The stigma on divorce is significantly reduced now from what it was even like 20-30 years ago. It’s also easier for women to support themselves in general on top of being more normalized.

Also, boomers are more like 59-77 now. Did YOU forget time was a thing?

afraid_of_zombies ,

The stigma on divorce is significantly reduced now from what it was even like 20-30 years ago.

Citation needed.

Also, boomers are more like 59-77 now. Did YOU forget time was a thing?

Talking about 50+ crowd. Get it together.

Sorry your argument is bad.

Misconduct ,

I was alive then. I guess you weren’t. Not surprising considering your immature reply. Have the life you deserve.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Try asking questions and gathering data instead of “guessing”. You might live longer. Have the life my tax dollars are paying for.

TheDoozer ,

If you’re in your 50s you’re Gen X, not Baby Boomer. Millennials are 30s and early 40s now.

TheWoozy ,

The youngest boomers are 59. But the whole concept of generation labeling is arbitrary and stupid.

captainlezbian ,

Yeah I’m hugely pro divorce for that reason. I’m glad they were able to leave

anolemmi ,
@anolemmi@lemmi.social avatar

You can’t paint such huge populations with a single paint brush, and even saying “generally” doesn’t cover your complete lack of empathy. Many or even most of those 16 million made choices that they thought were right at the time and tried to live good lives. You think these are the people that emptied pensions and raised prices and drilled the oil despite scientific warnings?

Sure, statically some of them did. But most of them did not. Most of them worked hard, harder than our generation, and provided for their families.

Having that much hostility for an entire population is no way to live your life.

CeruleanRuin ,
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It’s also a distraction from the real real villains who hollowed out the middle class and funneled every drop of wealth into their own pockets. They’re laughing from their super yachts whenever the middle classes bicker.

Tylerdurdon ,

You ever notice how easy it is to take a brush and cover an entire population segment with a certain view? Ever consider how racism and stereotypes become prevalent?

I’m not a part of that generation, but if you think it was any different than today, you’re wrong. Power was weilded by rich corporations and government officials who were doing their bidding. It just wasn’t as blatant.

Besides writing a snarky post, what will you tell the future generation you did to stop the current situation? Exactly…

TheDarkKnight ,

Pray tell, what can be done now? That ship sailed, we never had a chance…that luxury was only granted to those who came before.

All we can do is live with their choice, and make sure to take every opportunity to shame them for it.

I will NOT accept apologists like yourself, painting a grand excuse to hand-wave their complicity.

girlfreddy ,
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@TheDarkKnight @Tylerdurdon

Poor you.

Maybe you'd feel more comfortable heading back to X-Twatter then.

TheWoozy ,

Please take your cynical defeatism back to reddit and leave it there, where it belongs.

TheWoozy ,

Congrats! Your generation is now fucking it over too!!!

Treczoks , in Feds alert judge to Trump’s ‘If you go after me, I’m coming after you!’ post

The prosecutors said Trump’s post raised concerns that he might improperly share evidence in the case on his social media account and they urged that he be ordered to keep any evidence prosecutors turn over to his defense team from public view.

He probably gives a flying fuck about this. He is already in deep shit creek, and any chance to rally his fans is more important than just another half inch of extra mud he is sticking in. Because if those morons vote him back into the white house, the first thing will be to pardon himself from all the crimes he did, and retaliate against the juridical system with prejudice.

echodot ,

If he is convicted surely he can’t run. I thought you had to have a clean criminal record to run for office?

I_Fart_Glitter ,

Nope:

washingtonpost.com/…/can-convicted-felon-run-for-…

The constitutional qualifications for being president are being a natural-born U.S. citizen, a resident for at least 14 years and over the age of 35. A person can be disqualified by conviction in a Senate impeachment trial, but a criminal conviction does not affect eligibility.

wazoobonkerbrain ,

He is already in deep shit creek

It’s either:

He is in deep shit

or:

He is up shit creek (without a paddle)

WorldieBoi , in Jan. 6 Prosecutors Ask for Protective Order, Citing Threatening Trump Post

Can America ask for a Protective Order against trump?

kittenbridgeasteroid ,

I vote that we send him to Greenland and tell him he’s the king now.

nxn ,

What has Greenland done to deserve that?

kittenbridgeasteroid ,

I mean, it’s mostly an inhospitable wasteland.

VanillaGorilla ,

Like death valley, let's dump him there.

orphiebaby ,
@orphiebaby@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, that’s close to Trump Tower, isn’t it? I drove next to something with his name on it when we passed through Las Vegas from California to Minnesota.

elbarto777 ,

What makes it inhospitable?

Tigbitties ,
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They lied about being green.

Jimbabwe ,

Traitors get hanged.

magnor ,
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Nah. Give him his own submarine. Better yet, let him design it. How hard could it be?

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