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mctoasterson , in Americans Are Less Motivated to Work This Year Compared to Last, New Data Shows

Got a ton of education, qualifications and experience to work my way up through various jobs. Finally took a job a few years back with a significant pay raise… That is, until inflation offset the wage gains.

So yeah I’m 10-15% less motivated than I was previously. Every year in this economy that one doesn’t get a 10% raise, it is functionally the same as taking a pay cut.

HeyJoe ,

As someone who just got the first raise in 3 years (the last one was 2% as well) and it was 2% because they felt bad and said it’s for cost of living, I just laughed and said this is insulting more than useful…

coffee_poops , in Huntington Beach City Council approves banning mask and vaccine mandates

Good luck not dying, idiot fucks.

Uprise42 , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official

I call bullshit. He sold them fucking internet as a fucking contract with the damn Pentagon. What else would they be used for. If you wanted to use that excuse then you should’ve never made the contract. This was planned from the start. He sold the contract to have greater control over their military operations. This is just the first of a long line of items to come

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/01/pentagon-awards-spacex-with-ukraine-contract-for-starlink-satellite-internet.html

o0joshua0o ,

Yep. With something like this you’re either all in or all out. You don’t half-ass military support.

Ensign_Crab ,

He sold them fucking internet as a fucking contract with the damn Pentagon.

Sounds an awful lot like Elon Musk defrauded the Pentagon.

Caradoc879 ,

Sounds an awful lot like elon musk needs to be sent to the Russian front his fucking self. I hope ukraine charges him as a Russian spy and puts out a bounty on him.

Lucidlethargy ,

I’m okay with this. They’ll pull him out and try to get secrets from him… Only to realize he knows literally nothing about rockets and electric cars. Then he’ll get thrown back onto the front line.

TheDarkKnight ,

Sounds kinda like somebody is playing both sides and needs a strong reminder as to what hand feeds him.

Blamemeta , in Thousands of migrant children test NYC schools system

So now migrants are a problem?

Glad we’re finally on the sane page!

Jah348 ,

I think the issue is republican leaders intentionally causing harm to migrant children for their own joy and political gain. They moved them to areas like new york with the goal of overburdening and breaking the system.

It’s be the equivalent of me buying 100,000 AR-15 and air dropping them onto a bus full of children; have a republican say wow these guns are a problem and respond, “oh so noooooow guns are a problem CHECKMATE”

Regardless, decades of actively fucking the people, land, and economies of south American countries have indeed caused a humanitarian crisis leading to migrants fleeing for safety and hope. Neither party seems to have much interest in proactively sorting it out. Reap what you sow.

Blamemeta ,

So it’s fine when it’s a small border town, it’s not fine when it’s NYC, because we bussed them to NYC, to a place with more resources?

And accepting migrants isn’t a long term solution, it’s not a solution at all. What we need to do is fix their countries, and having their best flee isn’t helping their countries at all.

Jah348 ,

Randomly relocating migrants to other cities with zero communication or planning with pure intention of causing harm to the migrants as well as the people of the arrival city for political gain is indeed a bad thing to do. I must remind people that cruelty and harm is the point of Republican policies. There was no thought that New York has resources so clearly this is a good choice of the health of either the city or the migrant to send buses there; else it would be planned and communicated ahead of time.

Let’s use Texas for example. There are big cities in Texas if you weren’t aware: Dallas, Houston, Austin - odd that there was no thought of sending migrants to those cities with all their city resources. There are also large other cities between Texas and New York: Oklahoma City, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Charleston, Pittsburgh, etc - it’s almost like right wing propoganda incessantly targets New York as a city of Democrats and we must punish them. Cruelty is the point. There is no functional purpose of sending migrants to New York other than cruelty and chaos for political gain.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

Ah yes, the cruelty and harm strawman again. This isn’t about hurting anyone, it’s about showing just how big of a problem dealing with them crossing illegally is. Apparently they can trek all the way up from wherever the fuck but the second you transport them to where democrats actually have to deal with the problem suddenly their movement is a problem.

Veraticus ,
@Veraticus@lib.lgbt avatar

How is it a strawman when it really is cruel and harmful?

It is about hurting both the migrants and Democrats. As is typical for Republicans, the cruelty is the point.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

How are the migrants worse off than they were at the town that didn’t want them?

If democrats want open borders they’re welcome to have them, so long as they take in the crossers.

Veraticus ,
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Because their own choices matter — they went to that destination to be with their families and friends or to fill job opportunities they found. They are actual people with real feelings and ignoring their decisions to move them thousands of miles against their will as a political stunt is definitional cruelty.

If you don’t want immigrants in your town, you should move. Spoiler alert though, there are immigrants going to every town in the US. So you might have to leave the country and immigrate somewhere else.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

They don’t get choices, what part of illegal do you not understand? They should get sent straight back, but if liberals want them they can have them in their cities.

Veraticus ,
@Veraticus@lib.lgbt avatar

So you actually do acknowledge it’s cruel and harmful, you simply don’t care because you believe they deserve it?

You are an awful person.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

Being intentionally obtuse doesn’t help anything, but at least from your above comment we agree that New York and other Democrat cities can and should take them.

Zombiepirate ,
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Texas could reduce immigration demand unilaterally by prosecuting people who hire undocumented workers.

They don’t, because they want a permanent underclass to exploit.

This is a stunt for the base to make it look like the GOP hates the status quo, but this is the system that they’ve intended all along: it provides cheap labor for their donors and red meat for the people who hate immigrants and cities. They’re playing both sides of their coalition.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

And I’d be all for that. I’m gleeful over the coyote felony law being implemented in Florida.

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

But they don’t do it.

Which is my point.

Because it’s about creating a permanent underclass.

So you’re being used.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

So let’s hold hands and sing in front of some candles while some signs are being shown saying make any hiring or helping or even any conversing with illegal aliens a felony. Where will we hold this vigil?

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

You seem like a very serious person who has thought deeply about this issue.

My favorite part is how I explained twice how Republican politicians are not interested in fixing this and you refuse to engage with it either time.

That’s the conservative calling card: pretend like you’ve got everything figured out, and when the obvious flaws are pointed out to you just pretend like we’re talking about something else.

Yes, I’m sure you’re a very serious and intellectually honest person who just needs to switch topics for very good reasons other than having no rebuttal.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

You said your point was something wasn’t being done, I said let’s do something to get it done. I’m sorry if you don’t actually want that thing done, my mistake for assuming you meant what you said.

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

And here I thought your philosophy was

Being intentionally obtuse doesn’t help anything

But Republicans always think they get a special exception, so that tracks after all.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

But they don’t do it.

Which is my point.

So to be clear, you do or don’t want it to be illegal to hire illegals?

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

I think we’re done here.

I have no interest in “debating” with a meme machine.

JustAManOnAToilet ,

No just a yes or no, you either can or can’t answer the question. You said that was your point, that they don’t do it, so don’t back down now, unless you want to rethink your position.

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

I think we’re done here.

I have no interest in “debating” with a meme machine.

esadatari ,

i legitimately laughed at this comment rofl

nail on the head

Jah348 ,

I don’t think you know what the term strawman means, but I’ll leave that aside.

Physically harming others and intentional causing chaos to prove a point isn’t something a functional governing body should do. We return to cruelty is the point. This isn’t about solving any sort of issue or assisting the fabricated issue of boarder towns in chaos (citation needed). The singular goal is cause harm onto others and feel vindicated by causing that harm.

Democrats currently have continued most if not all of the previous standards at the boarder. Please cite a single open US boarder. Where is this open boarder that people can walk accross without any sort of harm or law breaking? I suppose Canada is relatively loosey goosey but no one is worried of that. They can bring maple syrup and affordable Healthcare all theyd like.

Blamemeta ,

Well yeah, its the only way to make illegal immigration an issue to the democrats.

And its only cruel to the dnc.

theluckyone ,

Are those small border towns housing migrants in emergency shelters and enrolling the kids in school?

Blamemeta ,

Schools, yes. Shelters, many don’t have the resources.

artisanrox ,
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they would if y'all would stop killing your own State's kids and guarding bathroom doors for a minute.

archiotterpup ,

What we need to do is stop interfering in their home counties and stop destabilizing them.

ChicoSuave ,

If you love next to an airport, expect noise. If you live next to a border, expect immigrants. It’s the idiots in a small town complaining about their choices that are causing this. If they don’t like it, move and then the people who want to be there live there

Eggyhead ,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

I think the issue is Republican leaders intentionally causing harm to migrant children…

Funny how this implies immigrant children are actually better off In conservative states.

dhork , (edited )

There’s a critical difference, though, between the complaints of the NY City and State politicians, and the complaints of the Governors of Southern states that are doing the busing.

Folks like Abbott are complaining about these people coming over the border, while simultaneously spending money to make then Someone Else’s problem.

The politicians in NYC are upset at folks like Abbott for sending so many migrants there, but acknowledge that they are humans that need help, and their beef with the Federal Government is simply to send more money. They are also explicitly asking for expedited work permits for these people. These migrants want to work, but have no legal way to do that right now.

Between the young people everywhere in the country who can’t afford to have children, the regressive laws that are driving out young people who can afford to start a family, and all these migrant humans that the South does not want, I would not be surprised if there is a major demographic shift in the next census, where the liberal states which have been seeing a net outflow of residents reverse that trend. After all, these migrants are supposed to be enumerated in the census, and count in apportionment, even if they can’t vote. Well see whether Texas manages to ship a Congressional seat or two away to NYC on these buses.

bobman ,

More like they introduce additional obstacles that we need to work together to overcome.

They are a net-benefit to society as a whole, even if it isn’t immediate or without challenges.

Blamemeta ,

False. Immigrants are not a net benefit, except as cheap, abusable labor.

bobman ,

False. Immigrants are a net benefit. On average, every additional person contributing to a society is beneficial.

You’re coming at this from the obvious, white male perspective of “They took our jobs.” Admit it.

Blamemeta ,

Oh absolutely. No American will work as cheap or be as abusable as a h1b1. I would post the pewresearch study, says that for every 10% increase in immigrants, wages go down 2%, but google is not being helpful.

bobman , (edited )

So the government should step in to block immigration, but not the abuse of workers?

Gonna block you now. I can tell you have nothing ‘beneficial’ to add to this conversation.

Sorry you’re so racist and unskilled that you need to blame immigrants for your problems. Maybe you should become more competitive in this capitalist system your kind are so fond of.

Blamemeta ,

When has the government ever been pro-worker? The only lever we can actually pull is immigration.

FinnFooted ,

There was a study. I dont think it was pew. Here’s a good response to why this papers results doesnt match up with most other literature and why, while the model was good, he data selected seems biased: www.cato.org/…/does-immigration-reduce-wages#test…

FinnFooted ,

They commit crimes at a lower rate and improve the economy. Also, don’t we have a labor shortage everyone keeps going on about? And if they’re legal, they don’t get abused. Which is why we should make an easier path to getting them work papers.

So I mean. The whole labor thing boosting the economy is a big deal.

RegularGoose , in Some workers who rebuild homes after hurricanes are afraid to go to Florida. They blame a law DeSantis championed

Good. You keep electing fascists, you deserve to suffer for your choice.

atempuser23 ,

There is strong gerrymandering going on there. That form of vitoing ensures the most extreme rise to the top since the other views never have enough votes to tip an election.

TaterTurnipTulip ,

Sure, but DeSantis won a statewide election, unaffected by gerrymandering. So even though FL’s congress has more extreme people because of that, they’re not the only ones who enacted this law. They didn’t have to elect a fascist as a state, but they did.

Saying that, I do feel bad for the Floridians who didn’t vote for him and get fucked over because of this. But anyone who voted for DeSantis deserves whatever they get from his cruel actions.

Kcs8v6 ,

Governor races are just as susceptible to gerrymandering as any other race.

Xtallll ,
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they are susceptible to any number off vote suppression and election meddling tactics, but an at large election can’t be gerrymandered.

some_guy , in Musk's interference to protect Russia allowed Russian attacks on Ukrainian cities, and resulted in the deaths of civilians including children - Zelensky advisor.

There must be some way of charging him. Not that it’d stick, but I gotta think there’s some law that was violated, right?

agitatedpotato ,

By the books he should have to register as a foreign agent, and should be penalized for not doing so before engaging in foreign agent activity.

spaghettiwestern OP ,

There is. His actions are against the law and he can be charged. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

jarfil ,

Except at the time the US Government’s policy was for Starlink to NOT extend coverage outside of Ukraine’s borders.

Musk followed US stated policy by disobeying Ukraine’s request.

UrPartnerInCrime ,

I’m not for the guy and think he’s done waaay more wrong than good, but wasn’t everyone against him even offering starlink on the first place? Now everyone is mad that they didn’t use more starlink? Honestly just seems like a lose lose situation right now for him. Had he overstepped his bounds and used starlink as an aggressor, instead of defense like he has been doing (which is one thing the US said to Ukraine, defend your land not attack theirs) people would have dragged him through the mud for that instead.

I’m all for being critical when it’s due, especially for a guy trying to role-playing Edison and his shitty tactics, but idk about this one.

Edit: Here’s a link explaining it a lot more clearly about why the news is making this bigger than it was.

Edit edit: link broken lemmys hard lol

jarfil ,

Precisely. For the one time the guy follows the rules… like there haven’t been a thousand other things he’s been doing that deserve criticism… this one is a really weird smear campaign to pick.

And a full year after the fact, at that. Where were all these people in 2022 when all this happened?

knexcar , in Powerful earthquake strikes Morocco, killing more than 1,000

How many earthquakes has Morocco had by now? Seems like every day they have a new earthquake that pops up on here, each one with more people dead than the last.

merc , in ‘That ’70s Show' actor Danny Masterson gets 30 years to life in prison for rapes of 2 women

Is it just me or does 30 years to life seem longer than you would expect? I’m not trying to argue what he deserves or what the correct amount of time is for rape. I’m just saying that if I had to guess what kind of sentence someone would get for 2 counts of rape, I’d have guessed something like 15 years at most. It seems especially unusual given that he’s rich, white, and presumably a first-time offender.

If the sentence is unusually long, would that mean an appeal is more likely to be successful?

speck ,

Honestly, had the same thought

Mr_Pap_Shmear ,

maybe they tried him as a black adult? you know how sometimes they try minors as adults

PurpleTentacle ,
LifeInMultipleChoice ,
aeternum ,
clockwork_octopus ,

It’s longer than I’d expect, but it’s what it should be, so it’s refreshing that a judge somewhere is taking rape seriously.

Sylver ,

Be prepared to see how many people rise up to say life minimum when it comes to rape. Of course, I just see that as people admitting the system fails the incarcerated and punishes rather than rehabilitates.

Azhad ,

If you give harsher punishment for rape than murder, you are just trasforming every rape in a murder rape.

The_v ,

After the rapist Brock Turner was given a slap on the wrist, California passed mandatory sentencing for rape.

He was accused of 3 rapes but convicted of 2. He received the maximum sentencing for each.

His lawyers are likely going to fight the conviction constantly until the money runs dry.

My personal thought is the conviction is unlikely to be overturned but a sentence reduction is likely. So he got the maximum sentence. Danny will likely be behind bars for at least 6-10 years for his crimes.

ShaggySnacks ,

You do mean Brock Allen Turner, who was a student at Standford and was convicted of rape from an incident on January 18, 2015?

I hate to be wrong on that we’re talking about two different Brock Allen Turners.

The_v ,

That’s the right Brock Turner who was sentenced to 6 months and was released after 3 months. Judge Aaron Persky thought a longer sentence would unduly harm the rapist, Brock Allen Turner.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

Didn’t convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner try to hide his identity by just using his middle name and going by Allen Turner?

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t be mad if a trash truck hit him and forgot to pick him up.

CosmicTurtle ,

Didn’t rapist Brock Turner change his name or something?

Daisyifyoudo ,

I think they’re referring to THE RAPIST BROCK ALLEN TURNER who raped an unconscious girl in an alley. I heard he moved to Ohio and goes by his middle name. So THE RAPIST ALLEN TURNER

Sanity_in_Moderation ,

The rapist Allen Turner is the same person. Yes. Allen Turner is a rapist.

Daisyifyoudo ,

I think they’re referring to THE RAPIST BROCK ALLEN TURNER who raped an unconscious girl in an alley. I heard he moved to Ohio and goes by his middle name. So THE RAPIST ALLEN TURNER

merc ,

California passed mandatory sentencing for rape.

I knew about Brock Turner, but I didn’t know California passed new laws as a result. Do you mean mandatory minimum sentences? Or was the maximum raised too? Would 15 years have been illegal for Turner, but is legal for Masterson?

6-10 years for his crimes.

6-10 years is more what I would have expected given his fame and wealth. I wouldn’t have been surprised at 15. But, 30 to life seems more like what I’d expect from a second-degree murder sentence for someone with a criminal history, not rape by a rich white Hollywood celebrity.

johnsilver ,

he’s also done lots of other evil shit.

www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/cedric-bixler-zavala-reacts-danny-masterson-rape-conviction-scientology-1234745344/amp/

merc ,

That article talks about the rape, and talks about things that the Scientology cult did on Masterson’s behalf. But, I don’t see anything in there about other evil shit that he has done / been accused of doing. What sorts of things are you talking about?

johnsilver ,

I might have misremembered him poisoning their dogs, but he did emotionally and physically abuse her. That’s primarily what I was referring to.

JoBo ,

Don’t you mean that almost all other sentences for rape seem far too short?

There were several aggravating factors here. A long sentence is surprising given that he is a wealthy, white man. But it’s absolutely justified (in the current carceral context, of which I strongly disapprove).

merc ,

No, in fact I specifically said:

I’m not trying to argue what he deserves or what the correct amount of time is for rape.

JoBo ,

I didn’t say you were. I’m suggesting the sentence only seems long to you because you grew up in a world full of Brock Turners. If you’re not arguing about what the correct sentence should be, that is the only possible interpretation of what you said. Your perspective has been warped by your experience of this world that we live in.

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  • PutangInaMo ,

    I used to have a friend that did 8 years for murder. Dude hit the 3 strike rule though he’s out for life no parole.

    Laticauda ,

    It varies a hell of a lot by state. Some states will give 40+ years for one rape, some will give under 10 years for multiple rapes. Add in the biases of individual judges, the person being charged, their status, jury biases, etc, and it ends up kinda all over the place.

    bobman ,

    Kind of makes sense to just have all of our justice dictated by robots, at that point.

    At least then there’d be some consistency.

    Malfeasant ,

    That’s a different ridiculous extreme, not better.

    Icaria ,

    Sentencing has never made much sense. Depends upon jurisdiction, how many charges prosecutors can tack on, how many you end up going to trial over, how many you get convicted over, and who is responsible for sentencing (in some places the jury sentence, in some the trial judge, in others sentencing is a separate proceeding with a separate judge).

    One of the big factors here is that Masterson and his lawyers still deny everything. He didn’t cut a deal, hasn’t shown remorse since he hasn’t admitted to any wrong-doing, and the judge chose to sentence consecutively. First trial was a mistrial, second trial got 2/3 convictions, and apparently they intend to appeal. So depending upon appeal, he is currently facing somewhere between being acquitted on appeal to facing life in prison. In a lot of cases like this, some sort of deal is cut on lesser charges or lesser sentencing in exchange for admitting guilt and not dragging this on through appeal, hence typically shorter sentences. Masterson/his lawyers are instead rolling d20s and the current outcome is a 1.

    FluffyPotato ,

    Yea, I’m glad he is getting what he deserves but 30 to life seems insane. You can get up to 20 years for murder here (life sentence is possible but only for the rare serial/mass murderer), and getting that 20 years requires you to do some really bad shit. Manslaughter for another example is up to 3 years.

    Novman ,

    Excuse me, but it seems to me that with two murder maybe his sentence would be less.

    FluffyPotato ,

    Yea, in Estonia definitely. To get the full 20 years you need to do something pretty bad.

    BonesOfTheMoon ,

    Compared to the rapist Brock Turner it sure seems like a lot. Brock Turner the rapist got a very light sentence.

    sturmblast ,

    I have a feeling Brock will get what’s coming to him down the road

    31337 ,

    Yeah, seems high. I’ve known someone that got 10 years for attempted murder (shot someone). I’m not in favor of long sentences like these in general. If a person is not going to rehabilitated in 10 years, then I don’t think adding another 20 years is going to help. Same thing if you look at it from a deterrent perspective (if 10 years isn’t a deterrent, then any sentence probably wouldn’t be). If a person could never be rehabilitated and they would pose a danger to others if released, then a life sentence would probably be the best.

    cloaker , in Powerful earthquake strikes Morocco, killing more than 1,000

    Bloody awful news. Spain please offer assistance.

    twistypencil , in Musk's interference to protect Russia allowed Russian attacks on Ukrainian cities, and resulted in the deaths of civilians including children - Zelensky advisor.

    Piss of Elon, now he takes away starling completely for Ukraine, giving Russia the edge they need

    Something_Complex ,

    If he did that he would become an open enemy of the state. Which means starlink would become propriety of the USA gov?

    unexposedhazard ,

    I think if you interfere with a military intervention of the currently most important proxy war party of the united states then you are already an enemy of the state. the question is if they will finally do something about him…

    FaeDrifter ,

    Fucking lol, obviously they won’t. That’s not how liberals work. Biggest consequence Musk will face is not getting future government contracts.

    whostosay ,

    Why did you decide to assign this to liberals here? Serious question

    FaeDrifter ,

    Liberal idealism, with all it’s positives and negatives, dominates the way America thinks and American government works. Personal freedom and private enterprise are much more highly valued than state loyalty.

    unexposedhazard ,

    yeah no im not expecting them to do anything but it would be nice if they did :)

    jarfil , (edited )

    He has a contract with the DoD now, he won’t breach it.

    He didn’t have a contract before… didn’t breach it either.

    solrize , in Some workers who rebuild homes after hurricanes are afraid to go to Florida. They blame a law DeSantis championed

    Saving click: this is about migrant workers who might get arrested under new FL immigration law.

    altima_neo ,
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    I presumed as much.

    Gestrid , in 'One Chip Challenge' pulled from shelves after mother says spicy tortilla chip contributed to her son's death

    A coworker of mine tried it one time while he was on the clock. He ended up having to go to the ER. They gave him something that coated his stomach (or at least that’s how he described it). He wasn’t fired or anything (and I don’t think he should’ve been, anyway), but people generally thought it was a pretty stupid move.

    TheDarkKnight , in Musk's interference to protect Russia allowed Russian attacks on Ukrainian cities, and resulted in the deaths of civilians including children - Zelensky advisor.

    It’s because Elon finds Putin more relatable than the people Putin is attacking.

    elskertesla ,

    Not really. He’s just afraid that his satellite constellation will get targeted by the Russians. They probably threatened him and he being who he is (attached to his companies) started to cave.

    TheDarkKnight ,

    Plausible but wouldn’t they already be a target at this point, and to counter wouldn’t this have been a known risk when he signed the contract with the US Government on providing the coverage for Ukraine?

    Hazdaz , in 'One Chip Challenge' pulled from shelves after mother says spicy tortilla chip contributed to her son's death

    Even as someone who loves really spicy foods, I think the ever-escalating spicy trend is getting ridiculous. After a certain point you don’t taste anything and its just a dumb one-upsmanship contest.

    QuinceDaPence ,

    Same. Also some people just don't seem to be able to identify any flavor beneath the heat.

    My limit is this one Asian food place in Houston. I got some chicken that I didn't realize was hot. Me and my coworkers go back to the office (a very large room). I open that to go box and everyone in the room choked from the heat of just the smell. It was strong even from the other side of this room that's probably 80x80ft room with 40ft ceilings.

    I was crying, sweating, turning red, nose running everything. Everybode else was getting a little bit of bloodshot eyes.

    Of course then everyone tried convincing me to eat the pepper itself. Ain't no way.

    When I was finished we wraped it in like 3 plastic bags and took it outside and down the sidewalk and put it in a trashcan there.

    But that was some damn good chicken. 5 stars, would suffer again.

    victron ,
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    Sounds like you all had a great time.

    Muetzenman ,
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    People would litterly send men to the moon just to one up each other.

    poopsmith ,
    @poopsmith@lemmy.world avatar

    You don’t eat this chip because it’s good, you eat it because it’s one of the spiciest things you can get (and it’s fun).

    Hazdaz ,

    This is an extreme example. Plenty of other things out there are just a dumb pissing contest to see who can make the hottest sauce, wings, chip, ribs, etc.

    Just_Not_Funny ,

    I looove hot and spicy foods and refuse to take part in any of that nonsense.

    People look at me like I’m crazy and I have to explain that, yes, I like hot and spicy flavors but that doesn’t mean I’d eat a spoonful of godamn lava.

    I enjoy watching people do it though and always offer to buy drinks for someone who does it, lol.

    victron ,
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    As a lover of spicy foods, and more importantly, a late 30s fella, I agree completely. If you don’t enjoy it, what’s the point?

    altima_neo ,
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    It’s not really sold as a food. It’s sold as a game. That’s why it’s called the “one chip challenge”. You’re supposed to eat it and then hold out as long as possible without driving something to sedate the burn.

    It’s also not that spicy. Last time I had it, I was mostly coughing from the stale chip and dry, powdery seasoning. The heat itself didn’t bother me. Their regular sized bags of chips were way spicier to me.

    roboticide ,

    I’m tired of restaurants basically wafting a Carolina Reaper over their salsas or sauces and advertising their barely-jalapeno-grade garbage as being particularly spicy. One drop of extract in a bulk batch of sauce for a restaurant does not make it spicy, but it certainly lets vanilla consumers with no real tolerance feel like they’re able to take actual heat from real peppers.

    I love spicy food and I’ve done the One Chip Challenge just for the thrill, but it’s not really done as a “food” any more than skydiving is done for transportation. It arguably shouldn’t be sold to minors, but it’s actually hot, not just marketing, and arguably is more responsible for creating the trend in the first place than jumping on the bandwagon later. The Challenge has been sold for a long time.

    Hazdaz ,

    I think Popeyes or Wendy’s was advertising some ghost pepper sandwich recently and it was decent and had a little bit of a kick, but it was far from being hot. Same thing with various “hot” chips.

    If it is a mass market brand I have very low expectations when it comes to spice level. If it had the slightest vit of a kick, I’m surprised.

    dpkonofa ,

    It was Wendy’s and it really wasn’t that hot. They also had “Ghost Pepper Ranch” for the nuggets and it’s really mild.

    dethb0y , in Some workers who rebuild homes after hurricanes are afraid to go to Florida. They blame a law DeSantis championed

    I’ll take the stance this is actually a positive, since rebuilding after a hurricane in florida is a bad idea to begin with. It’s just gonna keep happening and keep intensifying in severity. The more people who relocate out the less people there’ll be at risk.

    GreenMario ,

    And the less Electoral College votes that shithole has too. Let the Everglades reclaim it all.

    Fisk400 ,

    I thought part of the problem is that they don’t change electoral votes anymore.

    That’s why city votes is sometimes worth 1/4 of a dead mining town vote.

    jumperalex ,

    You’re thinking of the # of representatives not growing with the population like it’s supposed to. But even then, they ARE reapportioned based on the census. The census also reapportions electoral votes. AND if there’s enough population shift there’s also the redrawing of district lines.

    So basically, yes FL losing / drastically shifting population could impact all sorts of things every 10 years.

    Wilibus ,

    Next do California sliding into the Pacific. Team Blue is fucked when that happens.

    jumperalex ,

    “Team Blue”? who’s talking politics. Nature DGAF about who you voted for. Anyway …

    Geologic time for continental drift is not even close to the same as annual hurricane season and [wait for it] wild fires!!! And guess what, I DO say the same about anyone loving in areas prone to more and more wild fires who continue to rebuild there. But at least wild fires have one small chance of being mitigated through proper fuel management and power-line spark prevention.

    loie ,

    There aren’t new electoral votes because that would require expanding Congress via more House seats or new States. But the existing votes get shifted around after every census.

    steltek ,

    Florida’s MAGA magnetism is a net positive for the rest of the country. They’re effectively gerrymandering themselves by packing into one voting area. Even if they gain EC votes, other areas of the country will be relatively more Blue and as Florida policies Brownback their quality of life, it’ll only help the Dems win votes.

    Burn_The_Right ,

    Let the conservatives stay as they insist. They claim it’s not happening and mock the normal people who have tried to warn them for decades. Fuck them. Maybe mother nature can help cleanse a little bit of conservatism from the planet.

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