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FinnFooted ,

What this woman did was a heinous hate crime. But this isn’t the oppression Olympics. There has been a rise in antisemitism too. No need to diminish that in order to assert that hate crimes against Palestinian people is bad.

FinnFooted , (edited )

There’s a lot of complexities with different groups downplaying and exadurtating. I won’t deny mass disinformation in today’s politics and current events. But I’m not going to diminish how a group feels about prejduece against them when they have experienced a mass shooting in 2018, 2 targeted deaths in 2023, a firebombing at a synagog in 2023, and more. The ADL, a pretty credible group (apparently not really), reported a significant increase in antisemitic incidents in 2022, before the conflict in Palestine gained attention and the Israeli government started ramping up their propaganda machine. Bottom line, I don’t want to make this some kind of competition, especially on a post where we should be focusing on the abhorrent treatment of this Palestinian child, but antisemitism is a problem too and I don’t think its OK to rug sweep the issues either are facing right now.

…m.wikipedia.org/…/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting

npr.org/…/la-jewish-shootings-arrest-hate-crimes

npr.org/…/new-jersey-synagogue-molotov-cocktail

www.adl.org/…/audit-antisemitic-incidents-2022

FinnFooted , (edited )

On the ADL, you’re right. I had historically been under the impression they were credible and haven’t update my information because I was trusting NPR. Thank you. But, my point still stands. 2020 onwards has seen a huge uptick in hate crimes targeted towards Jewish people outside of the ADLs statements. Pew research has also covered the issue: pewresearch.org/…/anti-jewish-harassment-occurred…

I am also against the shift to blame Muslims. I’m only taking issue with trying to diminish the rise in antisemitism.

FinnFooted ,

Synagog shootings, of which there were 2 of in 2018 and 2023 in the US, are not atizionism being masked as antisemitism.

FinnFooted ,

A rise in homelessness is great?

FinnFooted ,

Our whole system supports genocide. America supports genocide. We need to go deeper than biden to address this issue.e

FinnFooted ,

If they actually cared, they would take the time to understand the actual situation and realize that puberty blockers aren’t experimental or dangerous.

FinnFooted ,

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I was under the impression that the key difference between the two is that the proposal by hamas wanted to negotiate dead hostages for living hostages.

Either way, I agree with the rest. These cease fires are a facade because neither side trusts the other to keep it and so they dont keep to it themselves. There is no trust. There needs to be more than pinky promises to guarantee the end of this genocide.

FinnFooted ,

A protest vote won’t save Gaza. It will allow the war in russia to expand and get more innocents killed though. I do wish people wouldn’t trivialize the second Ukrainian genocide they’re risking.

is there a legal way to consume alcohol bought at a store, outside of a home, hotel room, etc.?

I’m thinking in the U.S. and Canada. For example, if you’re on vacation, you’ve checked out of your hotel room and have several hours until your flight, and you have some cans of beer left over. I know you could sneakily drink them in a park or something, but I’m just curious if there’s any way to do it that’s legal.

FinnFooted ,

Actually, many parks do allow drinking. If you check the cities bylaws, they often state explicit locations where open containers are allowed and it often tends to be the major town parks.

FinnFooted ,

Right? Who eats this much fiber and then can’t poop…

FinnFooted ,

Was he good, or was he just grifting a different group before?

FinnFooted ,

I mean… He tocuhed a door knob and didn’t know it was a crime scene to report.

FinnFooted ,

I was there as much as the guy who said he didn’t report a crime was.

Iran's women a year after Mahsa Amini's death: 'I wear what I like now' (www.bbc.com)

A young woman walks down a street in Tehran, her hair uncovered, her jeans ripped, a bit of midriff exposed to the hot Iranian sun. An unmarried couple walk hand in hand. A woman holds her head high when asked by Iran’s once-feared morality police to put a hijab on, and tells them: “Screw you!”...

FinnFooted ,

The us literally distributed religious texts to extremists to encourage them to hate outsiders because communists were the outsiders we wanted them to push out at the time:

CIA and State Department have been criticized for publishing textbooks intended to indoctrinate children with racism and hatred towards foreigners and towards non-muslim Afghans.

In an effort to aid the anti-Soviet insurgency and inculcate a hatred of foreign invaders in Afghan children, the US government covertly distributed schoolbooks which promoted militant Islamic teachings and included images of weapons and soldiers. The Taliban used the American textbooks but they scratched out the images of human faces which were contained in them in keeping with their strict aniconistic and fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. The United States Agency for International Development gave millions of dollars to the University of Nebraska at Omaha in the 1980s and the university used the money to fund the writing and the publishing of the textbooks in local languages.

To be fair, this was in Pakistan and Afghanistan and I know less about Iran. But, yeah. “The west” 100% encouraged this behavior. And we backed mujahedeen extremist warlords in Afghanistan all the way until we pulled out.

FinnFooted ,

I agree with the sentiment, some people won’t be raising their sons right. And, while we need to push those people, we also need to be real about the world we live in otherwise girls and women are going to get hurt. There are bad people. telling them to be better won’t make them be better, won’t make them go away, and won’t make you safe from them. Its about as useful as thoughts and prayers.

FinnFooted ,

Old nuggets make me question all the life decisions I made which led me to get McDonald’s chicken nuggets.

Fresh nuggets? Pure crack. I find myself having to talk myself down from buying another 10 piece.

Maybe the employees at your McDonald’s are cooking too many early on and giving you old nuggets. But I promise you. If you show up 10 minutes before closing and request a 20 piece and force those poor people to cook you some fresh, they are still amazing.

Fact check: Biden falsely claims he was at Ground Zero 'the next day' after 9/11 (www.cnn.com)

He did it three times in a single speech last month – falsely claiming to have witnessed a bridge collapse in Pittsburgh in 2022 (he actually visited the site more than six hours after the collapse), falsely claiming his grandfather had died just days prior to his own birth at the same hospital (his paternal grandfather died...

FinnFooted , (edited )

I hate it. I’ll still vote for the puppet with dimentia that’s commanded by Democrats over the one commanded by Republicans if that ends up being my only choice to fend off fascists.

FinnFooted ,

I’m sound of mind and I’m on the 1000th time of swapping Tuesday and Thursday in sentencess. Every time. Brains are weird.

FinnFooted ,

This doesn’t fix jet lag which is fucking brutal.

FinnFooted ,

I’m not sure you can puppeteer away being a bad public speaker with dimentia. You can puppeteer policy though, which is what actually matters.

FinnFooted ,

If youre gluten free, I just made this cake and it was amazing. The only part that must stay consistent in proportion is the eggs, almond flour, and baking soda. I couldnt find almond flour, so i made some by grinding blanched almonds in a food processor (sliced almonds are usually blanched). After that, I actually added cocoa to make it a chocolate cake. It was a perfect cake texture.

FinnFooted ,

Yeah. This is how I live life. I don’t create demand for meat. But I’m not vegetarian.

FinnFooted ,

Ok? Smaller class sizer are good, but 1 student per teacher is not a big deal. But the us in general should be doubling the number of teachers.

FinnFooted ,

They commit crimes at a lower rate and improve the economy. Also, don’t we have a labor shortage everyone keeps going on about? And if they’re legal, they don’t get abused. Which is why we should make an easier path to getting them work papers.

So I mean. The whole labor thing boosting the economy is a big deal.

FinnFooted ,

I can’t actually tell which direction they meant it in… But people sure did take what they said the worst way possible.

FinnFooted ,

There was a study. I dont think it was pew. Here’s a good response to why this papers results doesnt match up with most other literature and why, while the model was good, he data selected seems biased: www.cato.org/…/does-immigration-reduce-wages#test…

FinnFooted ,

It’s a loose dress. How is a generic loose dress preventing people from integrating? My american grandma has dresses like this.

FinnFooted ,

I’m curious as to how they even define and abaya. Like… Other than being a loose fitting dress made of a square piece of cloth, theres not much to define it. Dresses that fit the description are also worn by “westerners.”

FinnFooted ,

You can be Muslim (a religion), Arab (an ethnicity), and French (a nationality) all at once…

FinnFooted ,

They already banned the head scarf years ago. The abaya is just a dress. Please don’t accuse me of bad faith arguments without even googling what an abaya is.

FinnFooted , (edited )

The problem is, theres no definitive distinguishihg description of an abaya. It’s a loose dress. How do you distinguish someone who wants to be comfortable in a loose dress from a girl being oppressed by an abaya?

FinnFooted ,

There are better ways to prevent oppression than controlling what people wear (which is ironically exactly what their oppressors are doing). These girls and women should feel comfortable and free to wear whatever they want, without being forced by religion or the french government. The answer to oppression and authoritarianism isn’t more oppression and authoritarianism.

FinnFooted ,

Such a brave statement.

FinnFooted , (edited )

Well, a bunch of men are certainly forcing them not to wear it now. I find it interesting that your answer to men controlling women is to have different men control the same women.

Edit: Honestly, fuck people who use religion as an oppressive tool. But, I find it really frustrating that people are acting like they’re liberating women and girls by controlling what they wear. That’s not liberation. These kids should be given access to confidential in school therapy and resources to report and deal with abusive parents if we’re actually worried about them being oppressed. But that’s not really what this is about.

Additionally, banning the abaya doesn’t prevent oppression. If these girls are being forced to dress modestly and being made ashamed of their bodies, they will just be forced to dress modestly in a vaguely different way now. Acting like this will bring meaningful change to these girls lives is just theater.

FinnFooted ,

Do you actually have anything to argue what I said though? Like… really. Your best answer to oppression is more oppression? And that makes me an idiot?

FinnFooted , (edited )

Woooow. The mental gymnastics. Are you actually comparing the french government telling little girls what not to wear to the Ukrainian army forcing out a militant government trying to overtake them?

This so is incomparable I don’t even know where to start. First, the Ukrainians are choosing for themselves how and why to deal with their oppressors. I have never suggest you have to be nice and hold hands to fight authoritarianism. I only said that more authoritarianism is not the answer to authoritarianism.

What the french are tying to do is pander to the far right and distract form other issues within their government with culture war BS while willful idiots like you act like the government is playing white savior helping these poor girls from their oppressive clothes. This is actually peaceful AND AUTHORITARIAN at the same time. You do not need to be violent to be anti authoritarian or violent to be authoritarian. Your weird appeal to force to deal with everything… weird and makes no sense.

You don’t liberate people by being authoritarian. Yes, be intolerant of authoritarianism. Use violence when necessary even. But again, MORE AUTHORITARIANISM DOES NOT COMBAT AUTHORITARIANISM. Forcing people to combat authoritarianism under your control and terms does not work. If it did, the US would control a lot more of South America and the middle east. Instead, they just killed a lot of innocent civilians.

This is not some paradox of tolerance I am appealing to. Be intolerant of authoritarianism. Offer these girls mental health resources and a way to escape their families and religion. Offer them a way out of their oppressive situation. Offer them the power to overcome their oppressors on their own terms. Have consequences FOR THE OPPRESSORS if you want to be forceful. Because banning a “square shape” loose dress does nothing to the actual oppressors. What, you think they’ll send their daughters to school in jeans now? No, lol. They will send their daughters to school in a slightly different style of loose dress now. Nothing has happened to the oppressors forcing girls into the abaya.

But, forcing these little girls into “what is good for them” is not helpful. THEY should have the power to decide what is good for them. Everyone deserves that. They should decide what they want to wear. Not their parents. Not the french government.

FinnFooted , (edited )

All these “but my daughter wants to cover her whole body, its her choice!!”, its coming from their parents.

I think this is a very western take on feminism. There are many Arab atheistic women who write on the liberty of wearing clothes that cover their bodies without it having anything to do with shame or religion. Look into Leila Ahmed for example, a professor in Women’s Studies and Religion at the Harvard Divinity School. She is very against women’s oppression in Islamic tradition and majority countries. She’s based an entire career on it. She once opposed veils on women as an oppressive symbol, but has further dissected it’s role in western society where women are not oppressed by their religion and how it even represents freedom in a way. Because that’s how some western Muslim women feel when they wear it. Its their choice to decide what these clothes represent to them.

Some girls are forced and I won’t deny it. And I don’t think we should be tolerant of it. I really think there should be a system of support for Muslim girls in western societies so they can deal with and navigate these issues on their own terms and with their own autonomy. I wish we saw more of that.

But, acting like a girl living in France choosing to wear an abaya in a healthy Arab family setting (Or any loose dress popular in any culture) is any different from a girl choosing jeans in a healthy western family setting is disingenuous. We are all shaped by our upbringing, but that doesn’t inherently make it some kind of brainwashing or force or abuse.

Also, like… kids wear funky things to school. I don’t know enough about unicorn costumes in France specifically to say anything. But, depending on the costume I assume it would be left alone or stopped if it impeded normal school activity. This seems like a strange example.

An edit for your edit:

Yes, authoritarianism is the answer to authoritarianism. You are not going to win to authoritarianism with kind words.

Part of me barely wants to entertain this. I already explained how anti authoritarianism could be violent and how I wasn’t appealing to kind words or tolerance of intolerance. I offered tangible non authoritarian and even aggressive alternatives. Its scary that, even with this explanation, you think the answer to people behaving the way you don’t like is to control those that they abuse.

FinnFooted ,

It was clearly a strange example to give a point, to which you didnt make any comment.

What would I comment on when there is little to no relation between your example and the issue at hand?

So in your opinion, how are we going to help these girls that being forced into it?

i think, at this point, I will just re quote things I’ve already said since it seems you’re just not reading?

" I really think there should be a system of support for Muslim girls in western societies so they can deal with and navigate these issues on their own terms and with their own autonomy."

"Offer these girls mental health resources and a way to escape their families and religion. Offer them a way out of their oppressive situation. Offer them the power to overcome their oppressors on their own terms. Have consequences FOR THE OPPRESSORS if you want to be forceful. "

why are muslims not fighting for that?

You’re saying this like they don’t? There are support systems in western countries too for Muslim women by Muslim women. People can be mad about multiple things at once. And, you will find that many Arab and Muslim women do fight as hard as possible for women in countries with Muslim governments that try to oppress them. Just like they fight the French government who tries to control them in the opposite direction. People don’t like authoritarianism in either direction. I don’t know what to tell you.

but I wonder if they are also enraged by the fact that some girls are being forced into it.

Yes. Yes they are.

The difference here is that there is not a group/religion forcing girls/women to wear jeans.

France is not Afghanistan. Girls are not being forced by religion in France the way they are in the middle east. You are not saving the little girls in Afghanistan by bullying the ones in France. Again, there’s a lot of feminist writing on how these clothes have a very different meaning in the west compared to the middle east. These women often wear these clothes for different reasons.

If you actually care, please read this: law.georgetown.edu/…/the-war-on-muslim-womens-bod…

FinnFooted ,

The top is a different post from a bottom of a dude just posting an ex ray of a cat paw trying to say how cute it is. But you’re right, left shows baby paw and right is adult paw. Misleading.

The response is just of a pug.

FinnFooted ,

Paw x ray is probably real, just of a kitten (or other baby paw). bones are more cartilage at birth then solidify more. Loook at the cute puppy x raysssss. Very similar

FinnFooted ,

The people in the infographic are literally working for their own food.

FinnFooted ,

Because money doesn’t cover the whole issue. Two people starting at the same economic point, one is statistically more likely to have downward economic mobility compared to the other based on race. There are people in our society actively being held back.

FinnFooted ,

We should certainly be helping the poor universally. Education should be free. Food should be a basic human right.

But, racism is well and alive in modern society. And it actively pushes people down based on race. So, we should address both issues.

FinnFooted ,

Semantics.

FinnFooted ,

And yet, you still have a statically better chance at upward mobility than the people who obtained these scholarships. And, don’t get me wrong. I’m white from a poor background with a lot of student loan debt. I feel your pain. But I’m not interested in fighting other poor people for scraps. Education should be free. We should be asking the wealthy and powerful why they are keeping education and other resources artificially difficult to obtain. Why is education and health care only this expensive in the US compared to other western and developed countries?

FinnFooted , (edited )

You’re right. I don’t know you. I assumed you aren’t black due to context. Perhaps you are native, but that’s the only group that is statistically less likely to have upward mobility compared to black people. But I haven’t really made any other assumptions other than you’re probably not part of a group getting race based scholarships thus you are part of a group statistically more likely to have more upward mobility than groups that do get race based scholarships. I think that’s a fair contextual assumption. And I don’t feel like playing the oppression Olympics with you, I just was trying to explain my position and that I have no benefit in defending affirmative action.

People should be treated fairly. We agree there. But, they aren’t right now. The bonus that certain groups get in admissions is to counterbalance more impactful lost opportunities they had earlier in life. And, until we address those, the counterbalance is necessary. But, you don’t seem to actually care about people being treated fairly at all stages. You only seem to care about people being treated fairly at stages that may give others opportunities you don’t have.

Because, if you actually cared about the root of the issue then your argument wouldn’t be focused on anti-affirmative action but realistically on creating a system that is equal from birth to death for all of us. Instead, you play into the desires of the ultra wealthy which is to create race based animosity to prevent either group from working together. Instead of arguing to lift others up so they don’t need affirmative action in the first place, you decide to squabble over peanuts in the dirt with over some false perception that someone else might be getting a few more crumbs than you.

FinnFooted ,
  1. what shit even are you even talking about?
  2. let’s assume there’s shit, they probably put up with it because up until 2015 many baby girls were murdered and that dating pool is slim.
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