Stuck out to me too but fuck, how do you steal a new pair of pants without attracting attention? At least if you get picked up from stealing a car you’d be like, “well, I gave it my best effort”. But if you get nabbed cause you grabbed a pair of pants from the local Montgomery Ward that’d suck.
DOC has identified a vacant building on the grounds of the Louisiana State Penitentiary that, with minor modifications, can house many of the juveniles currently at BCCY, while keeping them in separate facilities from adult inmates at all times.
I believe BCCY is juvie of no particular subtype, i.e. we can safely assume these kids committed some crime, but have no basis for speculating what sort of crime.
Why are people so upset? The conservatives are benevolent leaders. They allow women to drive, to speak out of turn and to even get their very own jobs if they want a little spending money for makeup and hair-do’s. Maybe women are just getting a little uppity and need to be reminded who’s really in charge around here.
deserts do get rain, just rarely. a few years ago, death valley got some rain and all of the wildflowers bloomed. of course, they died again - it’s death valley, after all.
Imagine that, some people are actually willing to sacrifice for change, unlike your useless ass who only seems interested in criticising those actually acting.
I'm not sure if you're bootlicking for billionaires intentionally or not, but attacking those attacking them with your useless armchair "meaningful solutuion" only serves them...
they used biodegradable paint, because they anticipated comments on the internet like the one you have made, complete with an ad hominem attack. the boat didnt need to be repainted.
where would you like them to “plant trees” in the meaningful way you would prefer these “idiots” to do? In the acres of land they happen to own that they can reforest with native species, yes? Perhaps you should contact them to remind them about the land they own that they’ve forgotten about.
what they’re doing is getting headlines and drawing attention to how “billionaires should not exist”, which they’ve done. People are seeing this, people are thinking about it, people are talking about it, people are taking time to hot-take simple solutions to the climate emergency like “them idiot protesters should go plant some meaningful trees”
I'm a progressive. I usually vote Democrat, because the Republicans are horrible. Pelosi represents everything I despise about the Democratic party establishment: serving the corporate billionaires, and blocking anything that helps working people. Sure there are many Democrats who I support, but Pelosi is NOT one of them!
Same WTF done with internet today children shouldn’t be in prison period and should have been immediately not give them until the 15th so they can continue to be cruel to them or time to appeal his decision.
You sure af don’t throw them into adult prison with zero access to schooling, no counseling, and punishments like being locked in solitary for days on end. Not unless you WANT to ensure they stay criminals.
So again, what do you do with them when they have committed further violent attacks against other teens that are trying to get better?
I’m not defending the conditions, but saying stupid shit like “wHy ArE kIdS iN pRiSoN aNyWaY” is dumb. Because they committed violent crimes. That’s why.
You do not put children in adult prison. It doesn’t have the facilities for counseling or education to help them.
You’re acting like they aren’t still minors and we should just give up on them because they’re violent instead of trying to rehabilitate them.
And also, we have no idea if these teenagers were put into jail for violent crimes. There’s nothing saying that in the article. You’ve just decided it out of nowhere and set up a straw man.
No I read other articles about it. Including one from last year when they were first moved out of juvvie.
Gov. John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, announced the decision to move the teens to the Louisiana State Penitentiary at Angola on July 19 after a series of chaotic fights, injuries and breakouts from the Bridge City Center for Youth near New Orleans, including an alleged carjacking by an escaped teen during which a man was shot. Residents in the surrounding community say they’re living in fear and have called for the facility to be shut down.
These are extremely violent teens committing serious violent crimes. After already being in juvvie.
So again, what do you do with extremely violent criminals that break out of juvenile facilities and commit attempted murder and carjacking while they’re on the escape?
You move the violent ones to a facility that can handle violent criminals and keep the ones that want to rehabilitate in a normal juvenile facility.
Why do you keep responding to "So what DO we do?" by just repeating what we shouldn't do?
Sure you can make the assumption that what they did shouldn't have put them in prison, but the legal system did come to that assumption. And you have to either resolve the reason or resolve the solution, you can't just ignore both.
All of them WERE in juvenile detention already. They were moved out after committing further violent acts against other juveniles.
So again, what do you do with violent teenagers that have already had a chance in a normal juvenile detention center and committed further violent crimes while there?
Can you provide a source on that? Also, you can provide a social worker or professional counselor at the very least. Which this prison promised to do and failed to deliver.
Following a slew of alarming headlines about violence, mismanagement and frequent escapes from Louisiana’s juvenile lockups, the state’s governor offered a new solution last week: temporarily moving teens to the notorious Angola prison for adults.
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Gov. John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, announced the decision to move the teens to the Louisiana State Penitentiary at Angola on July 19 after a series of chaotic fights, injuries and breakouts from the Bridge City Center for Youth near New Orleans, including an alleged carjacking by an escaped teen during which a man was shot. Residents in the surrounding community say they’re living in fear and have called for the facility to be shut down.
At a news conference, Edwards stressed that the Angola move is temporary, aimed at reducing the population at the troubled Bridge City until more secure youth facilities can be built or renovated. The state has too many teens in its care to consider closing Bridge City entirely, he said.
It was roughly 25 kids in juvenile detention already that were too violent for the facility they were in, including breaking out and shooting someone.
Yeah Louisiana is a shithole in a lot of regards. Their prisons are god awful third world hell holes.
I’m absolutely not defending how prisoners, teens or adults, are treated there. It’s abhorrent and the Feds should step in and put some heads on pikes over it.
I’m just saying the article is using “children” pretty loosely here to put an image in your head. These aren’t innocent scared little kids. These are teenagers that have committed very violent crimes including attempted murder.
I agree with you overall, but they are not "in adult prison" - they're in a separate section, fenced off from the rest of the prison. LA juvenile facilities have been in disrepair for years, and the kids often riot and wreck shit (I would too if I were in their situation, so I'm not judging), but that means the normal facilities often aren't suitable either. They're basically renting space from Angola.
We just had some major prison reforms, but we still need a lot of changes to the juvenile system.
That’s quite a wild difference from claiming killing tuna saves the environment.
This is saying they only use farmed tuna from sustainable sources, instead of just fishing them from the wild and reducing native populations, as well as not using drugs, GMOs, or synthetic dyes with those farmed fish.
yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions... if this is really the case, then the military is being mismanaged way worse than anyone knows.
we could cut those positions outright, and 10,000 others, and still be the biggest assholes on the planet.
I mean, that’s true, but the actual issue is that in the system as it currently exists, the entire reason Tuberville is doing this is to create empty vacancies, in hopes of stonewalling until the Presidential election. The entire plan is literally another attempt at a coup, just looking for ways to have a Republican administration put in a bunch of Yes Men in key positions, if they’re lucky enough to keep the House and win the Presidency. Having cronies in control of the military is no joke.
While we would still indeed be the biggest assholes out there, with a military that would still outmatch much of the world, the difference if that if this is continued to be allowed, there is real risk of the “biggest asshole” military on the planet being controlled by an actual dictatorship, not the dog and pony show we call a “democracy.” A fascist dictatorship that wants to wipe women and minority rights off the map and take us back 100 years or more.
I’m no fan of the milquetoast wimpy Democrats who watch the Republicans break rules all the time and are unwilling to play hardball themselves, but whinging while ignoring the literal rising threat of fascism that’s out there making plans to take power isn’t gonna help.
So, to quote a great man, “You’re not wrong, Walter, you’re just an asshole.”
Did I argue that they aren’t complicit or did I point out that what’s happening is literally part of a plan for an intended coup by the way more fascist of the two shitty parties?
We can suck major balls and you can still live in fucking reality where if the Republicans succeed at this, they will be using the military to root out and murder people like you and me, just because they can.
Democrats just want to be rich fuckwits above it all, but Republicans legit want to fucking hurt people, and ignoring that means you’d rather play pretend that we could just dismantle the military overnight. We can’t dismantle the military industrial complex we don’t have the political power. So in the meantime, let’s live in fucking reality and understand our own limitations shall we, hmm? Because acting like something we literally don’t have the power to do is something we should focus on while the fascists are at the gate is fucking nanners, to put it lightly.
We can be upset about more than one thing at once. Our military spending is out of control, and one person in congress should not be able to grind government functions to a hault.
OP is right, this is just a veiled attempt to maintain vacancies in the hopes of getting a republican president.
They learned from their mistakes last time, and they’re going to try again later.
Honestly, I think you give Tuberville way too much credit in terms of political machinations. I think he’s just very, very stupid. Every sign I’ve seen points to that.
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Tommy Tuberville is a mstermind who conceived of, and is executing, a grand scheme. Just that someone told him to do something and he’s doing it.
Literally their playbook for decades. The government sucks in their hands because they make it suck, not because it’s inherently ineffective. But suckers are gonna suck.
Remember when they held up the judicial nominations under Obama, only to force through a massive number of federal judges (and three Supreme Court picks) once they had control again? You can see how they're doing the exact same thing with the military right now.
Now imagine if, on January 6th, the military was being run by MAGAts.
yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions
The whole nation is in jeopardy because these leadership positions are being held open until Trump is reelected in a rework of the Merrick Garland SC nomination. Which should be terrifying. Jan 6 failed in part because some of the military top brass (Miley) put oath before Trump.
Read up on Project 2025 if you haven’t. These “unconnected events” are anything but. It’s a strategy.
yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions... if this is really the case, then the military is being mismanaged way worse than anyone knows.
When you refuse to fill management positions, yes, it will become even more mismanaged. Moreover, this is still messing with people's pay and families as well. You can't really cut management positions in the military and expect it to function. Our readiness will absolutely be hindered.
You can hate the army, but they're also one of the biggest suppliers of aid to other countries. Their logistics and planning help save more lives than you ever will, plus they save more lives than they actually ever take in combat.
You're no better than a Republican who just wants to shut down and obstruct without offering any actual assistance or plans to move forward. You're a child not getting their way. Are you related to the Senator as you throw a similar hissy fit?
The theory that as disparate political ideologies move further from the center that they get more alike past a certain point. The spectrum isn’t a line, it’s a horseshoe.
I’ll make the argument that tankies aren’t really leftists tho. They’re some weird amalgam of authoritarian communists. They have more in common with fascists, but they just took a different trip to get there. It’s shitty political convergence
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