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AClassyGentleman , in The Writers Strike Is Over: WGA Votes to Lift Strike Order After 148 Days

Bad move by the WGA boards. While I hope the TA is good and meets all demands, the workers literally haven’t seen it yet, let alone voted on it. You always want to have the strongest strike possible, and part of that is that no work gets done until a new contract is delivered, approved, and put in place. This puts the union in a weak position if the TA gets voted down.

Dieterlan ,

While that may be true, they are probably also weighing that this has been a long strike. I don’t know about you, but if I had to go 100+ days without working, my finances would be a wreck. Reality is, people gotta eat

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  • BarrelAgedBoredom ,

    Not sure how the WGA operates but it’s pretty common to have reserve funds for strikes as well as doing fundraisers and whatnot

    Dieterlan ,

    I literally have no idea, but I assume that the strike cannot go on forever. Though, since I made my previous comment I’ve learned that the striking members are still able to work, so long as it isn’t WGA specific stuff (which seems fairly obvious, and I feel dumb for not realizing it). So, while it’s lesser paying stuff, those who really need it can still get work to hold them over.

    tinkeringidiot ,

    Most/all unions keep a “war chest” to pay members during strikes, but the pay rates are usually far below members’ normal earnings.

    I was in a UFCW strike when I was young, and the union paid us all minimum wage. For most of us, this was less than half what we’d been earning.

    Ejh3k ,

    As a Teamster, if I strike I get 80% of my pay (well above minimum wage) and I get their health care. Starting day one of the strike. Used to have to be on strike for two weeks, but it changed.

    Steeve ,

    Not just the writers either, the entire industry is at a standstill while this plays out, and now they’ve gotta wait for the writers to actually write before productions start back up again. Lots of people will be out of work until spring probably.

    Ghostalmedia ,
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    Are there examples of this happening before?

    Patius ,

    Unless the board is just lying, it sounds like they got everything that they were asking for?

    If that’s the case, how is it a bad move?

    Nobody ,

    The WGA also released the complete 94-page contract and a summary of the new terms. The deal includes gains in compensation, a new requirement for minimum staff levels in TV writers rooms, improvement payment terms for screenwriters and protections for the use of artificial intelligence in the writing process

    It sounds like everything they were asking for. I don’t think they’d move forward so aggressively if the deal was weak.

    oyenyaaow ,

    Saying that the strike failed is playing into the studio’s hands. WGA considers the strike a victory, and furthermore, the studio downplaying the strike’s agreement is a disinformation campaign they had done before.

    Twitter thread by David Slack @/slack2thefuture:

    “As WGA leaders meet today to finalize our deal, we begin a new era for writers — and for labor in our industry. But we also begin to face the final and most insidious form of unionbusting propaganda: a years-long effort to sell the lie that our strike was not worth it.

    Over the coming days, months, and years, the studios, streamers, and their surrogates will take every opportunity to undermine what we have won together. They will seize on the inevitable consessions and compromises made by our NegCom as proof that we “failed.”

    They will urge us to overlook all that we won through hard work and unwavering solidarity. They will claim it wasn’t enough, that we should have gotten X instead of Y, that we lost more by striking than we gained in this new contract. And they will be wrong.

    They will tell us that the strike was unnecessary, it was a waste of our time and our savings, that our agents or managers or lawyers could have gotten us everything we won through individual negotiations without anyone having to walk a picket line. Well… then why didn’t they?

    As hard as it is to believe right now, these lies can work. They’ve worked before. During our 2017 strike authorization vote, it was shocking to discover how many members believed we lost the ‘07-08 strike, in which we went on strike for the internet — and won the internet.

    This didn’t happen by accident. It was the result of years of whispering by studios and anti-union allies. And they don’t just do it because they’re bitter about losing. They push the lie that we used our power and lost because they hope to stop us from using our power to win.

    Our strike was necessary because, in our individual negotiations, our employers consistently refused to acknowledge our right and reasonable demands. Because the profound changes we needed could only be won through the unique and overwhelming power of collective bargaining.

    Our strike was necessary because our employers made it necessary by driving our income down 23% in 10 years. Because they refused to address free work in features, streaming coverage in comedy-variety, the abuses of mini-rooms and the threat of AI until we withheld our labor

    Our strike was necessary. Our strike was effective. Our strike is a victory. If anyone tries to tell you otherwise, it’s ‘cause they never want to see us stand up for ourselves again. Don’t believe it. We won this fight. We’re the WGA, and when we fight, we win.

    AClassyGentleman ,

    FYI I never said that the strike had failed or anything to that effect, I just said it was a bad move by union leadership to call off the pickets before the TA had been agreed on or even been given to members (which it hadn’t at the time I posted this). It’s also fair to critique union leadership if they’re putting forward tactics that are weak. Weak tactics and bad leadership play into the boss’ hands far more than critique.

    However, all of that said, now that the details of the TA are out, it does seem to be a really solid deal and WGA members should absolutely be celebrating. This was a hell of a fight and they’ve earned it.

    oyenyaaow ,

    Going from Neil Gaiman’s tumblr (easy guess which show i’m hoping will continue :D) he’s being very cautious and also advocating staying on the picket line for SAG. And he’s not updating twitter yet, hmmm.

    Binthinkin , in U.S. Senate unanimously passes formal dress code after uproar

    40 something and still dealing with dumb shits in office.

    sturlabragason , in New study definitively confirms gulf stream weakening

    Goodbye Iceland.

    JasSmith ,

    Iceland is not the one made of ice. Confusingly, that’s Greenland. According to this data, Iceland would get colder over the centuries. They won’t disappear.

    Angry_Maple ,
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    I think that’s what they meant, tbh.

    There are a lot of people who don’t do well with the cold, or they might not find it enjoyable to live in. A lot of Iceland’s heat comes from the ocean. If that heat goes, some people would likely move elsewhere.

    throws_lemy OP ,
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    Iceland will be disappear under thick ice

    sturlabragason ,

    I should know I’m from there and currently live there. The decline of the gulf stream will heavily affect Iceland. It’s basically the only thing keeping this northern rock warm.

    In my lifetime the weather here has been getting more and more extreme by each year. (Was trying to find the source to back this up but i can’t remember where it is rn, probably here somewhere: www.vedur.is/gogn/)

    xc2215x , in A QAnon 'queen' and the Canada town that wants her gone

    That woman is known for being so out there.

    dessimbelackis ,

    That’s a weird way to spell batshit-insane

    Aceticon , in This isn't theft of need. A more insidious type of crime is pushing some stores to close

    The greatest theft which is causing thousands of stores to close is called rent-inflation, only that stuff is 100% legal because the politicians themselves often get more income from their “realestate investor” side occupation that from politics.

    kandoh , in The Biden administration is expected to keep cap on refugees admitted to the US at 125,000

    Great way to encourage more illegal immigration, which in turn creates an easily exploitable workforce. Win win for the ruling class.

    Fixbeat , in JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon warns the world isn't ready for 7% interest rate

    Yeah, I don’t really understand why they keep raising rates. It’s just another form of inflation for consumers.

    Not_Alec_Baldwin ,

    Bank profits inflate the money supply.

    If banks hold 100% of the money and lend it all out x10 (fractional reserve) and earn 1% interest, the money supply is growing by 10% per year.

    That’s inflation. All that money goes to the banks.

    Edit: that’s 1% on top of whatever they have to pay for the money from the fed, so 7% rate plus 1%, or whatever.

    That doesn’t even account for the stock market and other speculative devices.

    When business and the wealthy class get richer, they want to get even RICHER. Prices rise. Which drives record profit, which makes rich people wealthier, which causes the cycle to repeat.

    Raising interest rates is SUPPOSED to make people uncomfortable and stop spending. It’s not working yet, because literally EVERY INCENTIVE IN OUR SOCIETY is pushing people to spend spend spend.

    There is no functional market force driving down housing costs, food costs, or education costs. Unchecked capitalism can’t work.

    We just need proper incentive structures and regulation. But seeing as nobody has the guts to start figuring that out, the only lever we have is interest rates.

    So they’ll keep going up until something breaks.

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    One obvious solution that’ll never happen is simply getting rid of fractional reserve banking.

    Make it do they have to have it, to be able to loan it

    lco ,
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    Can't do that. It would be anti-business and anti-investment and anti-growth. Or something. Better go tax the poor a bit more. That'll fix it!

    Dienervent ,

    Make it do they have to have it, to be able to loan it

    The banks do have to have it to be able to loan it.

    Fractional reserve says that they're not allowed to loan all of it.

    So if you deposit 100k at the bank and there's a 10% fractional reserve. Then they're only allowed to loan 90k.

    Now you might ask, so if the bank can only loan 90% of the money they have where does the money multiplier come from?

    If person A comes and deposits 100k, and the bank loans 90k to person B. Then there's still only 100k in cash, but now there's 190k in bank accounts.

    So every time someone comes in to deposit 100k, they loan out 90k. Once they've got 1,000k, they've loaned out 900k and keep 100k cash in reserve.

    The important difference here is that loan only happen when there's a borrow. And there are strict regulations about how reliable those loans can be. Which is why they tend to require collateral.

    So, really when a bank has 1,000k in people's account, it only has 100k in cash. But it also has 900k in houses, cars and furniture.

    The whole system ends up stabilizing the value of money because it is backed by real tangible things through the loaning and collateral system.

    I also think it helps to keep money at a stable but small rate of inflation (1-2%). Otherwise people will just hoard the cash instead of growing the economy in the form of investments. But I don't know what the literature says on that topic, or how reliable that literature is, in practice.

    My point is, getting rid of the whole system just because it looks complicated to you seems like a terrible idea.

    Like our focus should be on breaking up monopolies, progressive taxation and a solid well funded social support system. I think it's safe to leave the management of the money supply to the bean counters for now. It's clearly not perfect but it's not bad either.

    Not_Alec_Baldwin ,

    I don’t like all of the fuckery the banks get up to. But even I’m willing to admit that this is a Pandora’s box situation… I’m not sure we can ever go back.

    It would be like trying to restore the gold standard. Just… How?

    Mojojojo1993 ,

    Man / or woman ain’t wrong. System is designed to fail.

    Only way out is to destroy it and start again. To repeat the cycle

    Dienervent ,

    If banks hold 100% of the money and lend it all out x10 (fractional reserve) and earn 1% interest, the money supply is growing by 10% per year.

    You've got it backwards.

    Banks hold other people's money and use it to issue loan. It's the issuance of loans that creates money. The fractional reserve doesn't magically multiply the money. It just (in a roundabout way) allows banks to loan up to that multiplier of money to people. But that only works if there's people who want to borrow that money.

    If a bank earns 1% interest, that doesn't grow the money supply. It transfers money from the people that borrowed the money to the bank which then uses it to pay executives, shareholders and employees (in that order of priority).

    The higher the interest rates, the less money people can afford the borrow, the more the money supply shrinks.

    Banks HATE high federal reserve rates, because that means people don't borrow as much which means they don't make as much money.

    When business and the wealthy class get richer, they want to get even RICHER. Prices rise. Which drives record profit, which makes rich people wealthier, which causes the cycle to repeat.

    This can only happen in a poorly regulated environment where the rich setup monopolies or oligopolies. Otherwise they'd lose all their customers if they raise prices.

    We just need proper incentive structures and regulation. But seeing as nobody has the guts to start figuring that out, the only lever we have is interest rates.

    I think you're just speaking for yourself here. Before you start spreading misinformation on the internet, maybe you should find the guts to actually figure out what you're talking about.

    High federal reserve rates can make things difficult for banks and that might be why the CEO of JP Morgan is butt hurt right now.

    Want to deal with inflation? Raise interest rates.

    Want to really improve the population's purchasing power? Break up the monopolies and oligopolies.

    ryannathans ,

    One caveat, didn’t the fed remove reserve requirements during covid? I haven’t seen them added back. I think we still have zero reserve banking…

    Not_Alec_Baldwin ,

    I actually don’t disagree with most of what you’re saying. I’m mostly pro-capitalist but anti-crony and anti-corruption which it sounds like you are too.

    Maybe I’m just misunderstanding, so I’ll try and clarify:

    If a bank earns 1% interest, that doesn’t grow the money supply.

    X$ exists.

    Banks loan out 10*X$ (or whatever).

    The loaned money is debt and so doesn’t change anything because the cash and the liability counter each other.

    The bank charges Y$ in interest.

    After the debt is repaid, the bank has X+Y$

    You’re saying that because the Y$ comes from somewhere, it’s not inflation. However as banks are profitable, they clearly have more money left after paying salaries, wages, costs, and dividends.

    As long a the money that the bank has is growing, the amount they can lend is growing which means the pool of available money is growing.

    It might not be “real” money (I’m probably misusing the term “money supply”) but it doesn’t change the fact that more “money” is available.

    Raising interest rates means people borrow less which means banks make less money and grow slower. If this were to keep up eventually the banks would lose money and the amount of loans they could give out would decrease and the available money would decrease. Which might finally put an end to this rampant inflation.

    Dienervent ,

    You're describing profit, not money supply.

    Bank profits don't cause inflation in the way you seem to say and bank profits are no different than any other company's profits in terms of how they affect inflation.

    xkforce ,

    Theyre raising rates because it is a way to limit the amount of money entering the system. Low rates have been feeding investers that have been driving up housing prices among other things. And the rate of inflation hasnt slowed down as much as it needs to. That suggests the amount of money the market requires is still significantly lower than the amount being added to the system.

    archiotterpup ,

    It’s a way to slow down money machine go burrrrr.

    Dark_Arc ,
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    I’m not sure what the other person’s talking about.

    It’s really simple. Companies borrow money to do projects that they can’t currently afford. When interest rates are low, you can start a lot more projects. When interest rates are high… those projects have more risk and need more immediate returns before your interest payments start hurting your profits.

    It’s kind of like 0% APR in the consumer world, “why buy later when I can buy now for basically free.”

    Of course, all that money companies use to start projects doesn’t immediately create the business to do the work … so the businesses doing that work previously can charge more, and the price to get them to do any work increases. That last part is the inflation…

    So… if you raise the interest rates, you kill the purchase orders, which lowers demand, and then lowers prices.

    That’s also why raising rates too much is a scary prospect, because you can literally stall out the economy because instead of too many companies trying to start projects too few companies are starting projects and people start getting laid off because there’s not enough work to go around.

    avidamoeba ,
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    Or equivalently - to raise unemployment.

    lemmy_outta_here , in Germany bans far-right group that tried to indoctrinate children with Nazi ideology

    I didn’t know the republican party operated in Germany

    jaschen ,

    They tried but it looks like the German government shut it down.

    PrinzMegahertz ,

    It‘s called the AFD and we are going to have our Trump moment in the near future

    bernieecclestoned , in New study definitively confirms gulf stream weakening

    “While we can definitively say this weakening is happening, we are unable to say to what extent it is related to climate change or whether it is a natural variation,” Piecuch said. “We can see similar weakening indicated in climate models, but for this paper we were not able to put together the observational evidence that would really allow us to pinpoint the cause of the observed decline.”

    What observational evidence would prove it either way?

    dangblingus ,

    The scope of the study wasn’t wide enough to get definitive evidence that it was man-made climate change based, or simply natural periodicity of climate zones. The Earth has a shit load of climate data over thousands of years to sift through, and that costs money which may be outside of the budget of the study.

    Actaeon , in Chinese hackers stole emails from US State Dept in Microsoft breach, Senate staffer says

    Something something state department.
    Something something private e-mail server.

    KingThrillgore , in Biden says UAW should fight for 40% pay raise in Michigan strike visit
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    Where were you when the railworkers wanted to strike?

    JokeDeity , in ‘Unconscionable’: Baby boomers are becoming homeless at a rate ‘not seen since the Great Depression’ — here’s what’s driving this terrible trend

    Kek.

    verdantbanana , in Biden says UAW should fight for 40% pay raise in Michigan strike visit
    @verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Only doing this because of the upcoming election year. What about the rest of us?

    politifact.com/…/increase-federal-minimum-wage-15…

    The American people deserve better than another demopublican. There are other colors and letters besides blue and red and d and r.

    brygphilomena , in X makes cuts to disinformation and election integrity team

    Didn’t the EU just blast them in the last week or two for the amount of disinformation on their site?

    alienanimals ,

    Elon Musk will do literally anything to stay in the 24 hour news cycle. Idiots lap it up.

    garretble , in Bob Menendez bleeds support from fellow Senate Dems
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    I thought you were supposed to get behind someone on your “team” no matter how criminal the charges.

    Weird. Weird how…both sides might not be the same.

    Fredselfish ,
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    Only during campaigning do you call for this. Notice how last time he was indicated I never heard about it. They only doing this now because if they don’t makes Biden look bad.

    Heresy_generator ,
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    The last time he was indicted the case was weak, which is why the jury hung at 10 for acquittal and 2 for conviction and then the prosecution dropped the charges rather than refiling. This case is not weak and the details in the indictment, especially the communications they included, are impossible to ignore. Not all cases are equal.

    Fredselfish ,
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    He was guilty then just got away with it. They still should called him out and damn sure the DNC shouldn’t have continued supporting him.

    Think about all the laws and rules he effected since then how much money did he take in actual bribes?

    deur ,

    It appears you have forgotten that whole innocent before proven guilty concept your court system uses?

    Earthwormjim91 ,

    His first indictment was 8 years ago which is why you probably don’t remember it, and the grand jury investigation started 10 years ago. It was in the news for years off and on until the judge dismissed everything outright.

    You not hearing about it is a you issue.

    Peaty ,

    If you didn’t hear about his indictment that’s a sign you weren’t paying any attention not that it wasn’t in the news. Had you bothered to search for it you would find it was extensively covered.

    Peaty ,

    To be fair both sides did let him slide the last time he was tried for corruption

    garretble ,
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    That’s a good point.

    Peaty ,

    I was furious as an NJ resident that he wasn’t prosecuted.

    Cleverdawny ,

    To be fair, he is being prosecuted by a Democratic administration and was let slide during the Trump admin

    Peaty ,

    He was not punished by either side. The Senate as a whole dropped the ball.

    Cleverdawny ,

    The legal case failed on a hung jury and the voters chose him again in the primary. What the fuck was the Senate supposed to do

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