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picnicolas , in Google adds a switch for publishers to opt out of becoming AI training data

Nice of these AI companies to add opt out capability after they’ve trained their models on all available data.

dependencyInjection ,

This is by design. Helps to stop any competition as they will now struggle to get the same amount of training data.

Fredselfish , in Florida girl, 16, dies after being struck by lightning while hunting with her dad
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I am sad for her death. What horrible way to die. As a father of a 16 year old I hope this doesn’t happen to my kid.

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
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No parent should have to suffer the loss of their own child, it takes a piece of your heart with them.

Fredselfish ,
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No information in the article about weather conditions. I was curious if this tragedy could have been prevented.

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
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They were calling for thunderstorms that day, (tuesday) but it really still comes down to bad luck/timing. www.timeanddate.com/weather/

Sir_Kevin ,
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It looks like she hunts with a bow, which may have been a factor if it was conductive. There have been scattered storms in FL this week as well. Lightning can travel over a mile from where it’s storm is to where it touches down so even in clear skies it can strike you. Florida is also the lightning capital of america.

Elderos ,

Metal does not attracts lighting. The danger is elevation. The bolt stroke a tree and she was likely shocked because the ground itself became conductive. In a thunderstorm don’t stand near trees, don’t lay down, you get the fuck out and find shelter or a non-elevated area away from trees and elevated structures.

too_high_for_this ,

They were probably in a tree stand. Fifteen foot metal ladder with a seat at the top. Basically a lightning rod.

Sir_Kevin ,
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Electricity takes the path of least resistance. Simple as that.

drekly ,

My dad died when I was 16 and that’s not great either.

But looking at that smile reminds me of my 1 year old daughter’s smile. I live to make her smile. I can’t imagine looking at that smile every day for 16 years and then one day I can’t.

Stuka ,

I mean all things considered it was either painless or painful for a few moments at most.

Not the worst way to go.

Tatters ,

Maybe if she was 80, but at 16 she lost out on most of her expected life.

Stuka ,

‘Horrible way to die’ refers to method of death. It has nothing to do with age.

too_high_for_this ,

Did you read the article? She died two days after the lightning strike.

Frozengyro ,

No way for us to know, but it’s likely she was unconscious/braindead for those two days.

Stuka ,

That was my assumption. Not breathing for an unknown amount of time following a lightning strike. I imagine it would be noteworthy for the article if she regained consciousness and later died.

FlyingSquid ,
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My daughter asked me what my biggest fear was the other day. I said, “being alive after you die.”

Moshpirit ,
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This is one of the reasons why I oppose hunting

BURN ,

I don’t necessarily condone it, but let’s be real, this incident had nothing to do with hunting. This essentially adds up to a freak accident

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
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Hunting may seem a little cruel but depending on the circumstances very necessary. Some animals overpopulate and hunting can keep animal populations manageable, in check, and overall much healthier.

But fuck trophy hunters.

gnygnygny ,

Earth was waiting hunters since centuries to regulate animals populations

MinusPi , in Florida girl, 16, dies after being struck by lightning while hunting with her dad
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As awful as this is, why is this news? Uncaused tragedies happen, everyone knows this. Spreading the word about this on the internet is just spreading misery with no recourse.

BruceTwarzen ,

A lot of news here is just weird niche thigs that happens in america

Bipta ,

Used to be r/offbeat and not r/news material.

partial_accumen ,

Or its a reminder of our mortality, and that anytime something random can happy to cause us to lose our lives. This means we have to use the time we have with greater purpose because we don’t know when it will end. I can allow us to get closer to those we love and let them know it so should something like this happen to us we’ll know they know we loved them.

MinusPi ,
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I’d rather not be reminded of my mortality, thanks.

snooggums ,
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A slightly above average looking white woman died. That gets clicks and is the reason the article exists.

Same reason there are so many stories about missing white women with moderately attractive photos, but you don't see many for non-white women, men, or less attractive white women.

bioemerl ,

Yeah, now I'm just sad. I guess it tells people to stop being silly and go inside when there is lightning.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
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That’s not always an option, especially if you’re in the middle of nowhere and get caught in a storm.

Arbiter ,

It’s unusual enough to be interesting to people.

iAmTheTot ,
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What exactly is news, to you, if not recent happenings?

People say this drives clicks, but this is exactly the kind if story a local newspaper would have published fifty years ago too.

snooggums ,
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Clicks is just the modern equivalent of subscriptions. People 50 years ago subscribed to newspapers to see this kind of stuff.

MinusPi ,
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A local newspaper. This is relevant to the people who knew her or live in her community. My heart goes out to her friends and family of course, but she ultimately holds zero relevance to me or the vast majority of people here.

Skanky ,

Would you rather see another close-up image of majorie Taylor Greens horse face?

rhacer , in Missouri high school teacher is put on leave after school officials discover her page on porn site
DessertStorms , (edited ) in The Trump administration touted him as a victim of MeToo. Now he’s accused of dismembering a girlfriend
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He earned entry to law school, won elected office in San Francisco and was featured in sympathetic coverage by national media outlets including ABC and USA Today, who allowed him to explain how his life was nearly ruined due to women making false allegations against him

It's not enough that we don't believe women, but then instead platform potential sex pests (at the very least) for being accused of sex crimes. The epitome of rape culture, that leads to the deaths and abuse of countless women.

E: while my initial comment stands, the more I read about this guy, the worse it gets - he had stalked an ex (and was abusing his wife who he later murdered), and was barred from campus, but at least one of the women he claimed falsely accused him leading to the expulsion didn't even know what he was talking about.
He's basically fighting windmills of his own making in an attempt to deflect from his own behaviour, like so many abusers do, but he definitely took it to the next level with a publicity tour and being poster boy for MRAs.
The sad reality is that Rachel might have been saved if we didn't exist in a world that ignores all of the warning signs of gendered violence.

DarkThoughts , in Sen. Dianne Feinstein, an 'icon for women in politics,' dies at 90, source confirms

Turtle next please.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
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Then Kissinger

VikingHippie ,

Both of them at the same time, right now.

Wahots ,
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Then we’ll get conspiracy theory woman or the dude who dates minors as minority leader as his replacement.

VikingHippie ,

Pretty sure neither Perjury Greene nor Gaetz are senators…

nnullzz , in The Trump administration touted him as a victim of MeToo. Now he’s accused of dismembering a girlfriend
Maajmaaj , in Navy Will Start Testing SEALs for Illicit Drug Use
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Idk, sounds like the navy is shooting themselves in the foot on this one.

mosiacmango ,

Nah, just good long term thinking. You get the clean, actually strong candidates, then when they get in the shit, you can dope them much further that dudes that need a fucking pharmacy to even pass the entry tests.

Melody ,

At least if they’re forced to stay clean and away from “Illegal” P.E.Ds; the DoD and Navy can learn from doctors what these and other top soldiers might medically actually NEED to stay on their feet.

I guarantee you a complex of the right vitamins do wonders; and so does understanding the limits of men and women so that you can ensure that you enlist enough clean, high performing men and women to the SEALs to get all of their operational jobs done.

An additional benefit is; if all the SEALs are taking the same “dope” and other nutritional supplements to aid in keeping their performance optimal once they’re commissioned; then doctors and dieticians and many other folks can weigh in and provide a solid plan for safe dosages administered for every compound involved to each soldier.

Imagine… No more SEALs dying randomly of drug overdoses. Really; that’s an outcome that Navy Command should honestly be highly prioritizing.

BonesOfTheMoon , in Epic Games is laying off about 830 employees, divesting Bandcamp

Shitty about Bandcamp. I hope it turns out ok.

hperrin , in Black musician says he was falsely accused of trafficking his own children aboard American Airlines flight

Their new motto:

If you see something… be racist.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

American Airlines History X

bobs_monkey , in Fast food workers to get a $20 minimum wage in CA

Here’s a (not so) funny anecdote: I went to Italy years ago and got McDonald’s equivalent of a double quarter pounder with cheese for shits and giggles. Dollar for euro, the price was about the same, if not a little cheaper, in Italy. Now couple that with the fact that Italians have access to healthcare, are paid a living wage, and have ample vacation pay.

These companies could pay their workers properly and provide benefits if they wanted to, they have the money. They don’t because fuck you

LetMeEatCake ,

But did you ever stop to think about how Italy’s system impacts the most important among us: the wealthy shareholders? A truly humane system would prioritize them at all costs.

/s (should be obvious, but I’ll put it there to be safe.)

cabron_offsets ,

But muh freedumb

b3an ,
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They still monkey around the hours in these places to avoid paying any employee too much. I’ve worked in similar industries and you have to fight for shifts, or deal with taking shifts last minute on your days off.

MadBob ,

This is also anecdotal but I’ve met a lot of Italians where I now live and they all say pay and working conditions in Italy are poopoo. I suppose it’s all relative though.

KillAllPoorPeople ,

Immigrants usually say that.

But central and southern Italy is like in a perpetuate state of Alabama.

MetalJewSolid ,

yee-a haw

MadBob ,

I’ve no idea what that means but I’m sure it’s nice?

SpaceCowboy ,
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Yeah when you think about how many meals they sell in an hour, they probably only need to charge less than 20 cents more for a meal to cover the cost of employees having a livable wage.

If were charging more for your burger in Italy, the difference in price was small enough to be unnoticeable. Because when you do the math, employees wages at a fast food joint isn’t a significant percentage of the price.

jz68 , in Navy Will Start Testing SEALs for Illicit Drug Use

I made it through hell week by being high on cocaine for 7 days straight.

foggy ,

lol wouldn’t it be kinda hilarious if we found out David Goggins smoked crack?

SamsonSeinfelder , in Disney+ to Crack Down on Password Sharing in Canada

Keep Feeding the mice and see the infestation grow.

Disney:

1940: Micky Mouse! (Also Worker Strike are secretly communists!!!)

1950: Hey, come to the theater with your kids and watch Peter Pan.

1960: Hey come watch Dumbo the flying elephant!

1970: Hey, if you are not at the movies, come to our Park!

1980: Hey world, here are several parks, so you can feed the mice in your own country

1990: Hey, watch the Lion King, buy a tshirt, buy a mug, buy bedsheets, come to the park, we buy all the other studios in your interest!

2000: Hey, fat mice here, buy more of our home media that you can resell or share! Buy More Shirts! Pay us at the parks! We now work closely with FOX. See Nemo, buy all the merchandise! We merge with Citadel Broadcasting. We also bought Marvel. Suck it. Please feed the Mice!

2010: Hey Chinese, come to Shanghai Disney Resort! We made Mulan for that! We also bought Lucasfilm so we can sell everyone more Starwars and Indiana Jones spinoffs! You do not have to come to the theater anymore, you can feed the mice via Disney+ from your home! I’snt that great?! Give us more of your money and time while owning less!

2020: Hey watch our latest spinoff of a 30 year old IP while you can not own the media, you can not share our media and we increase the price without changing anything of the product – and you will like it! Feed the Mice or micky will come to your home and shank you and your family at night.

FunnyUsername , in Epic Games is laying off about 830 employees, divesting Bandcamp
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It’s so cool how they’re shedding employees when their game store doesn’t even have basic features like product reviews

Fredselfish ,
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Maybe giving away games every Thursday is hurting them /s.

I hope that stays 100% of my library with them is all the free games. My bought games are on Steam.

Endorkend ,
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Most of these companies hire people constantly, then at one point, cut the people they don't find fit or are productive enough.

It's a continual cycle and the "normal" in the industry.

Don't get me wrong, I hate it's the "normal", but it is.

Ottomateeverything ,

I really don’t understand how people still hang on to defending EGS. It’s been shit since release, it’s still missing basic features years later, and it’s been found doing tons of shady shit.

I’m all for more competition in these spaces, because, you know, competition pushes the companies to one up each other and build compelling features. But EGS is just blatantly missing shit and is explicitly user-hostile by buying exclusivity to their vastly inferior platform. Steam hasn’t had to react at all because they’re still so far ahead, and Epic is just fucking trolling users by forcing them onto their platform without working cloud saves or even non-buggy installs.

The irony that they flag-wave “user choice” while doing this just totally baffles me.

cheeZzBread ,

You don't have to love them but they're still the closest thing to any competition at all. You can complain but they're most likely to improve if they're profitable, and it would definitely hurt end users if they shut down. I get the "buying exclusivity" complaint, but honestly it's fucking impossible to get a foothold, I would do the same thing if I were them.

Ottomateeverything ,

You don’t have to love them but they’re still the closest thing to any competition at all.

That’s arguably true. But as I said above, the only reason competition is good is if it actually is a reasonable alternative and the companies and products they’re competing with have to make changes to keep customers, which in turn benefits customers of both platforms. Steam hasn’t had to do a thing to deal with EGS. It’s brought no benefits so it serves no purpose Because of this, GOG is better competition in many ways.

On the other hand, as I said above, it has brought many disadvantages and actively harmed customers with unclear game ratings, lack of things like cloud save, fragmentation in their game libraries, and legitimately broken games and wastes of money.

You can complain but they’re most likely to improve if they’re profitable, and it would definitely hurt end users if they shut down

How would this hurt customers? There wouldn’t be EGS exclusives. People would have consolidated purchases. Steam wouldn’t change. GOG wouldn’t change.

The only argument you could make is the lost purchases on EGS, which wouldn’t have existed if EGS hadn’t started in the first place. That’d be a loss EGS created. So it only furthers the point. EGS pretty much only harms customers.

I get the “buying exclusivity” complaint, but honestly it’s fucking impossible to get a foothold, I would do the same thing if I were them.

Okay, sure, the company is working in their own best interest. And? It still actively hurts the consumer. There is no value they are providing to the consumer. If there was an exchange in which the company provided some value in exchange for that detrimental action, it would be warranted.

But EGS offers literally nothing but problems to the consumers.

PixxlMan ,

Instead of shelling out millions to shadily buy themselves into exclusivity, maybe they ought to have invested in their platform? I feel the state of the Epic Games Store reflects their view of gamers - mindless moneybags drooling for the latest releases, not as customers using a platform to play games. I don’t think we’d be better off with them in the game.

Kecessa ,

It’s not missing features if you want a launcher to launch games and not to accumulate cards and hats.

Rentoraa ,

Even just the launcher is shit compared to steam

Kecessa ,

Launching game on Steam: Launch Steam, update, restart, pop-up for new games/sales, close pop-up, change page to access library, launch game

Launching game on Epic: Launch Epic, click on shortcut on the left

Yep… total shit…

glimse ,

The fuck?

Launching a game in steam: click game shortcut on desktop, let steam check for updates, if there’s an update wait a minute for it to download and the game to launch

Kecessa ,

Oh then the experience is exactly the same with Epic, don’t see the problem then!

I was obviously talking about the experience if you start your game by opening the launcher itself, if you don’t then I don’t know why people care which launcher their game is on, the experience is the same everywhere.

glimse ,

I have never used the epic launcher so I can’t compare

Ottomateeverything ,

Launching game on Epic: Launch Epic, click on shortcut on the left

You forgot:

  • Epic needs to update
  • Yeah, we decided you don’t own that game anymore, even though you’ve played it multiple times
  • Oops, epic corrupted your install
  • Okay we fixed it but we don’t have cloud save, sorry you lost your progress
  • Oops, the EGS version breaks mods that work with every other version of the game
Kecessa ,

Of all of those only the first one ever happened to me, they have cloud saves, never had an issue with mods… I think you’re mixing up the experience on release vs the experience today, native you should refrain from commenting if you haven’t used the product in a long time, you’re like someone saying “I don’t buy Japanese cars because I had one and it had shit power compared to my friend’s American car!” and that experience dates back to the 70s.

Ottomateeverything ,

you should refrain from commenting if you haven’t used the product in a long time

What makes you think I haven’t used it? Sure, cloud saves were added recently ish. They still released and pushed for exclusivity without it, and also had their fair share of problems.

Of all of those only the first one ever happened to me

On the other hand, maybe you should refrain from commenting if you are only going to go off anecdotal evidence. There are plenty of people who have had serious problems with EGS. And their support is notoriously pathetic.

A single Google search:

pcgamer.com/a-bug-in-the-epic-games-store-launche…

reddit.com/…/psa_epic_game_store_bugs_and_inconve…

reddit.com/…/epic_cloud_saves_lost_me_my_save_gam…

steamcommunity.com/app/…/6637787280779437776/

forums.tripwireinteractive.com/index.php?threads/…

Kecessa ,

3 years old

The mod needs to be updated, not unusual with unofficial content

3 years old

All top comments are by people saying they don’t have an issue

So, one actual “recent” issue?

By the way, they’ve had cloud saves since at least 2020.

PixxlMan ,

Epic starts an update before it has loaded the UI, slowing your computer to a crawl. The UI now takes ages to load because of the update running. You can’t stop the update, that requires the UI which they haven’t loaded…

Nefyedardu , (edited )

...if all I wanted was a game launcher, Playnite and pirated .exes are 100% free. Steam at least has features that you are paying for, nobody is forking over $60 for games on Epic just for the privilege of using their shitty launcher unless they are an idiot (or they got a lot of cash to spare I guess).

Kecessa ,

You might also want to support the devs that bring you those games? But from what you’re saying I guess you pay for games just to make sure Valve gets money and you don’t care about the people actually making the games 👍

Nefyedardu , (edited )

So let me pirate it and then donate to the devs or something. Or let me purchase it directly from them. Why should Epic get 10% for doing literally nothing? People like to focus on Epic vs Valve, but Steam could literally not exist at all and Epic would fail. They don't offer a product that is better than piracy. That's the bare minimum standard they need to achieve and they can't even do that. A pirated .exe + Playnite is an objectively better product than a $60 purchase on Epic, it's just the facts. Anyone that spends money on that store is a fool.

Kecessa ,

Didn’t know pirated games come with auto updates, cloud saving, achievements, working multiplayer (when applicable) 🤔

If the only way your argument makes sense is by being disingenuous maybe you should keep it to yourself…

Nefyedardu , (edited )

lmao so features in a store are all of a sudden important now? That's not what you said before, you said all EGS needed to do is launch the game. It's almost like... features in a gaming platform are important. Like I said. Now if only you could take this newfound realization and apply it to Steam vs EGS....

You can set up auto-updates and cloud saves pretty easily, hell there's even some crazy stuff like this for achievements (EGS social features are so barebones, who cares about achievements on there anyway?).

Multiplayer is a given, everyone knows you can't pirate multiplayer games with official servers. But if you were to play a multiplayer game, it sure as fuck wouldn't be on EGS unless there was forced cross platform because you know it will be dead. I notice when I play Risk of Rain 2 that there will be hundred of Steam lobbies while the cross-play Epic lobbies are completely empty. Epic players literally cannot play that game online. Money well spent for the three people that actually bought that game on EGS, I'm sure they are really thankful they could give Epic their 10% cut for doing nothing when they could have just gotten the game for free or on Steam and had a better experience.

Kecessa ,

Well, it seems they’re important to you so I’m pointing out the hypocrisy that’s all 🤷 You buy from Steam because of the features, say pirating is better than buying from Epic because of the lack of features, I point out the features they have that you don’t get from pirating and now you’re still being disingenuous, so that conversation can end.

Nefyedardu , (edited )

lol you mean your hypocrisy? You said features don't matter. "All Epic needs to do is launch the game, that's good enough!" But now you are saying features do matter. Which is it? Taking this new stance to it's logical conclusion, Steam would obviously be the superior choice, would it not? Steam has more features than Epic, right?

Pirated games have features that Epic games don't by the way, namely the fact that you own the game and you are not limited by DRM. In my personal opinion that is worth way more than EGS achievements which are completely useless on a store with no social features anyway.

Kecessa ,

Me: All I care about is that it launches games

You: If that’s all I wanted (implying that you want more) I would just pirate the games because Epic doesn’t offer a product that’s better than pirating

Me: Well, Epic actually offers more than pirating games does if your care about that

You: Oh now you care about the extra features!

No, I’m trying to show you that their product meets your demands, that’s how arguments work.

www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

They proportionally have more DRM free games than Steam too…

Nefyedardu , (edited )

Me: All I care about is that it launches games

Then there is zero reason for you to buy games from Epic. That is a function that can be performed for free. It's like paying for air or sunshine. What kind of idiot pays money for something they can get for free?

You just seem to be completely ignoring the fact that I've already addressed all the features you brought up and most of them are pretty useless or are available to pirated games anyway. Certainly they are not worth actually spending money on when GoG and Steam do all those things and much more. Even if you had cash to spare and you just wanted those features with minimal hassle, there is still zero reason to buy from Epic.

jfc I've never seen someone defend so vehemently a product not having features. Epic is a multibillion dollar corporation with apparently thousands of employees, they don't need you to bootlick for them.

Kecessa ,

I buy my games where they’re the cheapest and I buy them so the devs can continue making games, you’re pretty fucking dumb to waste money to have access to useless features!

Nefyedardu ,

I buy my games where they’re the cheapest and I buy them so the devs can continue making games

Oh man, I'm about to blow your mind then!

STEAM KEYS

Devs get more money since Valve doesn't get their 30% cut and they are cheaper than the Epic counterparts! It's a perfect solution!

What is the status of Epic's key program btw, is that something they don't have? Shocker.

you’re pretty fucking dumb to waste money to have access to useless features!

I literally use Steam Proton, Steam Input and my Steam Deck nearly every day, and SteamVR at least a couple times a month. All things Epic doesn't have. Gaming would be super annoying if I was actually forced to use EGS. Billion dollar company with thousands of employees, btw.

Kecessa ,

gamesindustry.biz/epic-offers-support-for-third-p…

Eh… resellers have been a thing since 2019?

I literally use Steam Proton, Steam Input and my Steam Deck nearly every day, and SteamVR at least a couple times a month.

Oh wow, so you’re part of the absolutely miniscule minority of players who need those features, congrats, it doesn’t justify all the hate for the alternatives when the majority doesn’t need it. By the way… how do you use those features on GOG exactly? 🤔

Nefyedardu ,

Linux users, Steam Deck owners, VR players and those with Playstation or other non-standard controllers account for a fuckton of people. Easily in the millions to 10s of millions. If you don't want to take advantage of those features, that's your problem.

Kecessa , (edited )

If only that info was available somewhere…

…steampowered.com/…/Steam-Hardware-Software-Surve…

Linux: 1.82% (going down in August, includes Deck users)

VR headset owners: 1.92%

And there’s overlap.

Controllers aren’t part of the survey but there are other options to use a PlayStation controller on other platforms… I mean, you use GOG too, you said it yourself!

Kecessa ,

And by the way, no one believes for a sec that you send a single cent to devs whose games you pirate and no, pirating a game doesn’t legally make you an owner of said game.

Nefyedardu ,

I don't pirate games, I buy them from Steam or GoG like everyone else because I'm not an idiot. I have absolutely zero incentive to buy from a platform with no useful features.

Kecessa ,

Eh… GOG basically has no features…

Nefyedardu ,

It has everything Epic has plus offline installers.

Kecessa , (edited )

Which will requires to download the game beforehand so what’s the difference between downloading and installing right away vs downloading to install later? You can still launch the games without logging in.

It’s not 2006 anymore, high speed storage is cheap.

Nefyedardu ,

That's a terribly wasteful way of thinking, why can't we just download something once and have access to it forever? Steam allows local network installs and GoG has installers, what's Epic excuse? Don't forget, billion dollar company with 1000s of employees :)

Kecessa ,

My point is that no matter which option, the data is on your computer, it’s no more wasteful to download and install right away vs download the installer and store that data to install it offline later. Heck, you’ll need more space with the second option as it requires the installer AND the installed game to be stored.

Abucketofpuppies ,

But they are great for indie developers. They’ve done a lot to serve the indie community by buying their games and distributing them as a free game. It gets indie studios out of the hole and into the public eye.

Nefyedardu , (edited )

EGS itself is a graveyard for indie games, game discovery is complete shit and they have no plans on improving it..

When it introduced Steam Direct, Valve prioritized the development of Steam features that helped users discover games they might be interested in, such as the Discovery Queue. The Epic Games Store will continue to get interface updates, but as a matter of principle, Allison says that Epic will not track user behavior and use it to algorithmically recommend games. Epic has said in the past that it's more interested in supporting the game discovery that already happens outside of stores, such as on Twitch and YouTube.

Steam has great features to advertise indie games such as dedicated events and such so a lot of indie hits have come from it, like Valheim, Fall Guys, Among Us, Terraria, Stardew Valley, Rimworld, Factorio, The Forest, etc.

joshhsoj1902 ,

It may have been great, but not in a sustainable way.

For Epic those exclusive contracts were part of their advertising budget.

I honestly wonder how many indie games that started as an epic exclusive are still around today because of that exclusivity deal or if they only survived because eventually the exclusivity expire and they were able to list on other platforms

Kecessa ,

Oh no! Having to check reviews elsewhere! The agony! How did people live before Steam having reviews on their platform? 😱

FunnyUsername ,
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Okay, so where do I go to leave a review on steam for a game that I’ve played on the epic store, smart ass?

Kecessa ,

What?

That’s completely idiotic.

Leave your reviews wherever you want and check your reviews wherever you want, there’s tons of websites to do so, you don’t need to leave your reviews where you own the game.

Fucking hell, what you guys want is for Steam to have an absolute monopoly over everything related to PC video games! Here’s hoping no one ever takes the helm off Valve and makes decisions you disagree with because we’ll be stuck without any alternatives if it were only for you guys!

How old is Gaben? 60? He’s obese and has been for ages? Yeah bud, I don’t want to be a bringer of bad news but I wouldn’t expect him to be in control for the next 15 years!

FunnyUsername ,
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You literally can’t leave a review on steam unless you purchase the product. So your solution for me is to rebuy a game I already own just to leave a review? You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Enjoy your devil’s advocacy because that’s all it is.

Kecessa ,

Is Steam the only place you’re able to leave a review? The answer is no. Just leave your reviews elsewhere.

That’s probably the worst argument you could come up with.

FunnyUsername ,
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So your solution for a massively profitable company that’s laying off employees, is to instead of implementing a feature the user’s request, just shirk the paying customers desires and leave it up to some third party website? What if I don’t want a review of the game in general, what if I want a performance review of the game as it runs through that specific launcher? I don’t believe that you believe that review sections in stores aren’t useful. I think you’re just being a contrarian. And I think it’s very strange You’re going to bat so hard for a company that doesn’t give two shits about you, but have fun with all your disagreeing with everyone I’m sure you’re getting quite the high.

Kecessa ,

You mentioned having product reviews as a “basic feature” they should be working on instead of laying off employees, I’m pointing out how ridiculous it is to consider that a necessary feature and how ridiculous it is that you’re complaining that you can’t leave reviews on Steam unless you own the game there when there are plenty of other places where you can leave your reviews.

I’m only disagreeing with people who have idiotic arguments against a product I consider perfectly acceptable.

FlyingSquid , in Proud Boy who disappeared ahead of his Jan. 6 sentencing was found unconscious by FBI agents at his home
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Not the Worrell anyone will be missing.

This guy, on the other hand, I think all of us who knew him miss him.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f6040538-c59e-4b8e-a69a-2dc62febc24e.png

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