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I ordered my daughter a pizza, something I don't usually do. I got Domino's smallest size with two toppings. I got her cheese sticks and two sauces and tipped the driver 20%. $31.07.

Note I did not buy any food for myself.

To head off questions:

  1. No, I couldn’t cook for her. I’m suffering from a long-term illness where I can’t eat solid foods and am extremely smell sensitive. My wife is at a funeral, so I had to order food.
  2. She’s extremely picky and refused to let me order anything but pizza.
  3. We live outside of town, in a not very big town, with very few pizza delivery options, and they’re all at least this expensive.
  4. No, I didn’t also have to buy her the cheesy bread or the second topping or the sauces, but it’s nice to get my daughter a treat and that is no excuse for the order being that expensive.
  5. We’re in Indiana, so this should be ludicrous in terms of pricing. This used to be the pricing I would expect when we lived in L.A. and ordered from a good local place rather than a chain.

Edit: Turns out what I should have been infuriated about is people repeatedly telling me to get takeout and having to repeatedly explain why that wasn’t an option, having people not believe I’m sick, and being repeatedly berated for not magically knowing food coupons exist on the internet when I never order food on the internet. Oh right, and also being a bad parent for not forcing food my daughter doesn’t like down her throat or starving her if she won’t eat it.

By the way, I have another thing to be infuriated about. A huge storm came in and this happened to our trees. I assume I will start being berated for not cutting them down before that happened, but because I have no power or internet at home and have to go to the library to post, your further posts telling me what an idiot I am and how I’m an awful parent and how I’m not really sick will take me a while to read. Sorry to ruin your day. Maybe you’ll find someone else to treat like shit.

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Anyway, have fun telling me I’m the worst person on Lemmy, just don’t expect a quick reply.

Oh, and do tell me how stupid I am for not knowing that people who clear up and fix such damage have coupons on their website.

tobogganablaze ,

Damn, I wish I had such cheap food prices.

uis ,

THAT’S CHEAP FOR YOU?!

tobogganablaze ,

Yeah, Switzerland food prices are insane.

A similar sized pizza with the same toppings would cost me at least $20

uis ,

In Switzerland?! Oh, wait. Isn’t that country not EU member? But even non-EU European countries it is too high. Take RUB(Russia, Ukraine, Belarus) as example. Quick search says prices are: 580 RUB, 18 BYR(BYN), 212 UAH.

tarsisurdi ,

Wow that is outrageous. I paid the Brazilian equivalent for that amount yesterday on a 16 slice pizza with four different flavors and a white chocolate border + an 8 slice small sweet one from a local shop with delivery services and all.

No wonder these companies don’t see the financial benefit for bringing their operations to the country…

InFerNo ,

Any pizza can be a 16 slice pizza

tarsisurdi ,

That’s fair, but measuring the diameter of pizzas isn’t really something I do tbh and I don’t know the US equivalent of what we call “family sized” around here

uis ,

25 cm pizze for about 1000 roubles? What the fuck? I can order 30 cm for 580 roubles (about 6$). Maybe even cheaper from other source.

waz ,

If you are paying separately for the delivery, what is the tip for?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The poorly-paid driver, who doesn’t get any of that delivery fee. I’m fine paying that part, but the delivery fee is bullshit.

Rekorse ,

I’m not so sure we should lump in the pizza driver with all the other delivery drivers. Generally being a pizza delivery person is a decent first job and they usually work in the store too, and receive an hourly wage.

Not to say you shouldnt tip them, just not out of guilt.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not guilt, it’s pity. It’s a shitty job and they don’t get paid well enough, so giving them a $5 tip helps them out.

And in a depressed economy like this town’s, it may very well not be a first job. It may be someone who lost their decent factory job.

Rekorse ,

Its just awfully hard to make assumptions either way, I think is where I’m getting hung up. I could even see some people being upset that you pity them without actual reason to.

I’m not sure if its better to assume nothing or to pick a path really though.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Considering the website asks you if you want to tip them and gives you suggested percentages, I don’t think anyone would feel that I was patronizing them by doing so. And honestly, if you get upset that someone is giving you money, you have a lot more wealth than any delivery driver I’ve ever heard of.

Rekorse ,

Its not the tip they wouldn’t like, its the pity. You don’t need to pity random strangers, you have no idea how their life is going.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I pity them because I pity anyone who is being paid shit wages. I don’t know what Domino’s pays but I know it isn’t enough because big food chains do not pay good wages. It has nothing to do with their circumstances and everything to do with the company they work for not giving them what they deserve.

Also, they don’t know that I pity them, so I’m not sure why it matters.

waz ,

Right, I agree with you there. I guess I should invert my question. If you’re tipping the driver, what is the delivery fee for?

These two costs seem redundant.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t disagree.

scottywh ,

This is the only part of what you’ve posted in this entire thread that I agree with.

Wise up, man… You cost yourself a ton of extra money and came here to whine for sympathy and, deservingly, received none.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Really? You agree with Domino’s charging twice what they did five years ago? You agree that you should be forced to use a coupon (again, something I did not know existed) when Domino’s can obviously afford to charge less?

That’s some real “hail corporate.”

scottywh ,

They didn’t charge you double.

You volunteered to pay double.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Was I supposed to call them and demand a cheaper pizza? Once again, if they can charge what they want to charge with a coupon, why can’t they just charge that all the time?

scottywh ,

You’re supposed to not be a fucking idiot as you’ve been told repeatedly in this thread.

FlyingSquid OP , (edited )
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

No, get it right. I’m not an idiot, I’m a liar. And a child abuser. And I’m lying about being sick for sympathy. Get with the program.

Edit: and a 46-year-old boomer, I forgot about that one.

scottywh ,

No.

You’re a fucking idiot and a liar but I never said anything about child abuse.

Hell, are you trying to admit to being that as well though?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Do tell me what I’m lying about. I do hope I get to post all the links about the huge con of me being sick and my amazing Mayo Clinic Photoshop that I worked so hard on again.

Also, I never said you called me a child abuser. I told you to keep up with everyone else who is telling me definitely true facts about my life.

scottywh ,

You should just delete this fucking shitpost ragebait really.

It’s stupid.

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Stop paying your employees with this one weird trick

Swuden ,

I think it’s interesting to see the US cost of living catching up to that of my country (Norway). I’ve always looked at US prices and envied them, but now I’m just like “Whey! That’s a normal price!”. Based on what I’m reading I’m guessing wages aren’t keeping up in the same manner though…

piyuv ,

lol, except the high prices in your country provide welfare and health benefits to everyone, a safety net for less privileged. High prices in US allow billionaires to buy their 4th yacht

Swuden ,

Oh yeah for sure, the situation in the US is something I dread. The fact that the cost of living in the US is near the equal to ours is mind-blowing to me when I read about their average wage level.

EatATaco ,

Wage growth has been outpacing inflation for well over a year now in the us. The issue is that there was a huge spike of inflation during the pandemic and many people have fallen far behind so there is a lot of catching up to do.

aStonedSanta ,

When does this catching up ever happen. Never seen it myself.

EatATaco ,

During the period when inflation was real hot, my wife got a 35% pay raise and I got around a 28% pay raise. We beat inflation by a long shot.

Should I recognize that my situation was the representative of the general economy? Or should I say something like “my personal situation reflects the general state of people in the economy” and then argue that wage growth was outpacing inflation?

_tezz ,

Pretty sure it’s been going on a while, but unless you’ve changed jobs in the last two years it’s unlikely you feel these effects. Employers dont give raises in line with inflation but they’re sure paying new employees a lot more than they used to.

epi.org/…/average-wages-have-surpassed-inflation-….

aStonedSanta ,

Yeah. That was my assumption.

Hikermick ,

The only thing I see wrong with this is you let your daughter boss you around

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Are you a parent? If so, I’d be very surprised you never encountered a situation where your kid was stubborn about something trivial like “no, I’m not going to eat Jimmy John’s, I want pizza!” And if you punished them for it, you’re a bad parent.

Giving a kid what they want when it doesn’t matter is not letting them push you around.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

Don’t even give that troll the time of day, amigo.

Rekorse ,

I am a parent and have a toddler and a preteen, and yes you let your daughter boss you around in this instance. They won’t starve to death and you don’t need to punish them either. Its their choice to participate with the family in meal times. Its not reasonable that everyone gets exactly what they want when they want it and its wrong to give in to those types of attitudes. Kids can compromise, and its funny how the food becomes magically appetizing an hour later when their stomach is growling.

Yes parenting is hard, they are emotional terrorists, but you are implying you have no choice in the matter. I’m not saying you made a bad decision either, just blaming the kid for it is problematic.

paddirn ,

For the price, pizza always seems like the cheapest “eating out” option compared to others. Our cheapest I’ve seen is $7.99 at Little Caesars for a pizza (“large round”), along with $3.99 for breadsticks. With 3 kids, that’s one of the best deals compared with everything else around (only ~$12). It doesn’t seem universal with all pizza places though, some are worse than others.

What did your order in seems to be the stuffed cheesy bread, dips, and the delivery tip, those ate up half your costs right there, but food prices in general have gone to shit. ~$12 for a combo meal at a fast food place is pretty typical in my area and made me question my receipt a few times during the pandemic when I first started seeing them that high. I just stopped eating out at most fast food places altogether and get by on a salad, shake, and protein bites for around $6 a day.

Rekorse ,

I agree with this, they made some pretty poor choices and then explained them away by saying they had no choice. The bread was unnecessary, and yes I have kids too. A very picky toddler in fact. You never have to spend a ton on food, they brow beat you because it works, not because they won’t actually eat anything else.

Its still funny to me that kids are still tricking their parents into thinking they will starve to death if they don’t get exactly the food they ask for.

This poster wanted pizza, and had expectations of it that weren’t met, but she didn’t have to do it, it wasn’t forced. I think even your example via delivery with little ceasars would make more sense. Or just don’t buy pizza if there’s only expensive pizza near you. Pizza has always been a pricey dinner, only offset by the quantity of food just barely.

Around us, taco bell can be a great deal (and offers a vegan menu to an extent) as well but really this is more about not having enough time or know-how to reduce costs by cooking simple foods at home. A pack of taco tortillas, rice, beans, and vegetables to mix in is not expensive and makes a ton of food.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

That’s disgusting. We do get take out sometimes from local restaurants, but I’m in a city and we have lots of options, and I don’t mind paying a higher price for supporting them. But for some chain restaurant, that’s obscene. My SO went to Burger King the other night to try one of the whopper melts they have right now, and that plus fries and an Oreo shake thing was 19 dollars. Glad I’m vegan time and again.

boatsnhos931 ,

A. Should have done the 6.99/7.99 buy two or more deals off the app. B. That cheesy bread got yo ass play. Next time use the app though, that’s where all the coupons from the advertisements went. Fr fr bussin 128/10.

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FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

My wife suggested I should have used the app too, but I do not want to have to download an app to do something I almost never do and, more importantly, I also don’t want to give corporations even more of a chance to mine my data. That shouldn’t be considered as an option IMO. I used to take my daughter to Taco Bell fairly regularly and yes, I could have saved some money using their app. But there’s a reason you’re saving that money and it’s not out of the kindness of their hearts.

jacksilver ,

You don’t have to use the app, the website is fine. However, with dominos if you aren’t using one of their coupon “deals” you’re overpaying for their food.

Their whole gimic is how the “coupons” save you money, but it’s not fast food prices without them.

Harvey656 ,

While I agree you shouldn’t have to use their shitty app, thats just how the world works right now. Until we get any legislation to combat these shitty practices we can either boycott, or conform. And not downloading their app but giving them more money is still conforming.

loudWaterEnjoyer ,
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That is totally valid, I also don’t have a lot of apps on my phone. See buddy, when we were young, back in the good days, they actually invented the internet. So I was 18 when websites started to hit the every day market. Everyone and their mother had a website. I ordered a pizza from pizza hut in 1994 via their fucking website. You are 3 years younger than me or something. I was literally going through my prime as a human with web and networking exploding on the side. People like us built a lot of these damn websites.

I don’t understand why everyone nowadays wants to download software to their phones full of private data to display a website. I get that part. It’s frustrating. But man stop arguing like your dad gosh ohhh wHaT tHe FuCk iS a WeBsItE I’m nOt A pIzZa oRdErInG eXpErT you make me shake my head… You try to cover up with your age on these young folks, decepting them in favour of hiding your incompetence which you are fully aware of and embarrassed about to a point it makes you act up like this. You can just go on the damn website and redeem their goddamn coupons. There are fucking coupons on their shitty site and there are even more fucking shit sites only providing coupons as their ungodly content.

Just knock it off and own up man. It’s not too late. Don’t pull your age on this. Leave us out of this mess. Yeah you are not a boomer, but you sure act like one. People like you are the reason all these young people coming through at the company always assume I’m an idiot from the last century. Your behavior in this thread makes me shiver.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I will once again ask how I was supposed to know that online coupons exist for pizza when I have literally never used the internet to order pizza before. None of you have explained it to me. Was it supposed to be beamed into my skull?

loudWaterEnjoyer ,
@loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No you visit the Website and read the big fat banner that they pop into your brain.

Rekorse ,

Just another company thats created two price levels:

  1. Pay full price and dont use the app
  2. Use the app and always ALWAYS get a discount, but we will partner with amazon and google to gather and sell your data to make up the costs of the discounts.

I know 2 is preferable to some but I’m against it purely because of how deceptive it is, so I’m stuck with option 1.

I dont think thats what happened to the OP here, but just wanted to add why the cheaper option isnt always better.

RippleEffect ,

If you call or go in, always ask if they can see if they can get the best price for you and say you saw a good deal somewhere but couldn’t remember exactly what it was.

Domino’s hates selling smalls so they’re typically the most expensive. They sell significantly more medium and large than small.

Rekorse ,

That’s a good point, thanks for adding!

negativeyoda ,

Domino’s hates selling smalls

Yet that’s the only size they sell their gluten free pies in. I rarely buy from there (my kid considers it a treat) but I hate paying $15 for plain 10" gf pizza that’s mid at best

RippleEffect ,

They sell so few so they only do smalls to limit the waste. Gluten free is an exception.

I definitely agree the gluten free pizzas are not great.

negativeyoda ,

Yeah, they’re fine for what they are, but I’ll take that over shitting myself inside out by eating wheat

RippleEffect ,

I definitely understand that

Zoot ,
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They have a coupon now for gluten crusts. Make sure to ask if you call in, otherwise it should already be on the app. Could be a local coupon, but im pretty sure I saw it in national coupons.

Glytch ,

Or just use the website that has the exact same deals. You may have to click the mouse two more times and I know that can be difficult for people sometimes when they just want to be mad.

Rekorse ,

8ts not about being mad its about where you spend your money. I don’t give businesses my money if they participate in deceptive practices. Its possible dominoes doesn’t sell data though so you maybe got me there.

Glytch ,

Businesses will sell whatever information you give them permission to sell. Don’t use your main email for rewards accounts or free trials if you’re concerned about having it sold to spammers.

boatsnhos931 ,

Mmmm I trade my data for a p’zone and five cheese bread sticks anyday of the week. I always tell telemarketers to save my number and call anytime… They never call back 😔

Rekorse ,

Lol you accept the risks, all is well!

boatsnhos931 ,

What risk is that

Rekorse ,

Maybe cost is a better word. Although there are risks to allowing companies to use your data, especially since right now they are selling the data to companies that are trying to make money off of you, like say car insurance.

I will say thats more an argument for blocking out all types of tracking possible, rather than saying a single one is bad on its own. One place selling your data isnt actually that bad, its when those single nodes are so numerous that you can actually map out what someone does if you chain them together.

Its up to you if you are okay with that in your life though.

boatsnhos931 ,

They are welcome to try 🙂 Everyone is a stranger until you get to know them.

Rekorse ,

I used to do that but I figured out it was a bit easier for me to just avoid them altogether, which I know is not possible for a lot of people.

boatsnhos931 ,

Keep telling yourself that playa

Rekorse ,

Sure thing, pimp.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

Hell, not even the app. Their website advertises that deal everywhere. OP must have been blind.

Aceticon , (edited )

When I tip the driver in a delivery I literally just give them cash when they deliver (and only if they actually arrive with some promptness, not if they come half an hour late with a cold pizza).

It’s a habit I got into when living in the UK because there, like in the US, lots of companies just take the “tip” money and keep it if you tip whilst paying with card.

Granted, I like to pay stuff with cash, both for privacy reasons and because it has actually been shown that people in average spend less if they pay in cash (something to do with the feeling of giving something physical away), so I almost always have some cash to pay and tip.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I like the idea in theory, but ever since COVID, I’ve preferred to have deliveries left outside the door with no contact between myself and the delivery driver if possible.

It just seems more sensible in general.

Aceticon ,

Well, if you tip because you care enough about the person on the other side, you might want to try and come up with a way to leave them a tip somehow so that there is no risk it’s taken away from them, assuming that you can. Put $5 under the rug and let them know, or something.

If you can’t, you can’t, and I’m hardly going to criticize you for not wanting to catch an airborne infectious disease.

I was pretty miffed in the UK (years ago) when it came out that lots of companies (there it was mainly restaurants) were just keeping the tip money when people payed by card and filled-in a tip amount, so I very much made an effort to as much as possible make sure the actual people got the tip directly - even if I stood out from the crowd by doing it - as I don’t see the point in tipping the company.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Hm. Maybe tape an envelope to the door? Not sure. But it’s a good idea. Thanks.

rodneylives ,

I used to work at a Dominos, and their side items have been ludicrously priced for a good while. There’s usually a “coupon” in their app with a substantial discount on pizza, it’s the only way I’d order from them.

natecox ,
@natecox@programming.dev avatar

There’s a reason for this, they want you to download the app because you’re paying for that coupon via primary access to your personal data. Dominos isn’t just a pizza company, for a long time now they have been a data broker too.

Which I guess isn’t surprising, everyone and their mother wants to be a data broker today. It’s a good reason not to install any apps from anyone though.

rodneylives ,

I have questions about how useful the basic information Dominos gets from me from their app will be to anyone. Android doesn’t let them just harvest roaming data any more.

Rentlar ,

In Canada we still Domino’s have coupons on the website and sometimes they are even mailed out.

And yeah, to get a decent deal you have to only order the pizza, pick it up yourself, get drinks and sides anywhere else if you want them. I’m a sucker for cinnamon sticks and icing that many chains offer.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

The best deals you usually only get 2 or 3 toppings as well.

I can make a nice pizza with 3, but 2 often feels lacking.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

there were coupons on the website he ordered from. He chose to ignore them and pay extra so he could make a post on Lemmy to drive up engagement (I am presuming, at this point)

twxqax1eug ,

Your daughter needs a cock bro

negativeyoda ,

Kinda shitty that Dominos has it set up so that tip is calculated on top of the delivery and service fees. Tipping on the value of food, I understand. Tipping on the cost of those other fees is double dipping and bad faith in my opinion.

Seriously, “y’all charged me a service fee to deliver my food? Cool! Let me tip you for that!”

Having done time in the service industry, I have no problem tipping where it’s warranted, but you’re tipping the Dominos corporation for their fuckery at that point, not the driver

jacksilver ,

That’s like 50% of all tip calculations nowadays. It’s really obnoxious and feels like it’s trying to make you feel guilty for tipping an appropriate amount, but taxes and service charges aren’t part of the service.

Dkarma ,

Dominoes has their own cars tho so the delivery fee is in theory for car wear

natecox ,
@natecox@programming.dev avatar

Maybe this is a regional thing, but every pizza place that I’m aware of which delivers requires the delivery driver to use their personal vehicle… and does not reimburse for wear and tear.

BorgDrone ,

Why does your dominoes deliver by car? Seems like an incredibly expensive and environmentally unsound way of delivering pizza? Here they just use bikes like basically every other delivery place.

Solemn ,

Are you in the US? I’ve literally never seen a delivery driver on a bike, except for that action movie about bike couriers in NYC.

BorgDrone ,

No, I’m in the Netherlands. Why deliver by car when a bike is faster and cheaper?

greybeard ,

Because it isn’t faster and cheaper in the majority of the US. The nearest Pizza place to me is about 2 miles, the nearest that actually delivers? About 4 miles. And I’m within the city limits of one of the top 20 largest cities in the US. Our population densities are on a completely different scale than the Netherlands. Not saying we have good city designs, but as it is, a bike would a terrible way to deliver food to me.

BorgDrone ,

You’re saying that 6.5 kilometers by car would be faster than by bike in a city? In a car you’d be stuck in slow moving traffic or waiting for a traffic light like 80% of the time.

6.5km by bike would be like 20 minutes max, depending on city and time of day it would be 30-60 minutes by car.

Solemn ,

Our cities aren’t densely built up, except for New York. The actual urban area of most cities generally has far fewer people than the suburban metroplex surrounding it. 6.5km is literally larger than all of downtown Dallas, depending on how you define downtown.

Even our cities are designed for car travel, so unless it’s rush hour you’re still faster by car. Unless there’s a concert or other event happening, it doesn’t take nearly 20 minutes to traverse downtown Dallas in a car.

loudWaterEnjoyer ,
@loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I lived in Dallas, this is bullshit. Dallas has traffic jams all the time and it gets worse and worse. There are more than enough studies you can find, just search them on some search engine and look at the data.

Solemn ,

I live in DFW right now. I’ll admit i don’t commute through downtown proper daily, but even when i do go through downtown after work it’s bad, but not nearly as bad as plenty of other places in thr US.

greybeard ,

That is correct, the median speed, as a rough guess, from the pizza place near my house, to my house, would be 35mph, including the 2 stoplights in the way. Assuming we had proper bike infrastructure(which we don’t); you’d be hard pressed to top the speed a car can go, and you would still have to stop frequently at lights, just like a car. And remember, that is the nearest place, not the only. And a small sub note, this area is not flat, at all. The gradient changes are brutal for bikes and they can’t sustain a decent constant speed. Well, at least before electric bikes.

I am not defending, in any way, America’s horrible car centric infrastructure. It is what we have though, and as a result, bike deliveries aren’t an option for the vast majority of America. Of course, when you leave the city, it gets worse.

BorgDrone ,

Assuming we had proper bike infrastructure(which we don’t); you’d be hard pressed to top the speed a car can go, and you would still have to stop frequently at lights, just like a car

Here it’s the exact opposite. There is no way a car can keep up with a bike in the city. Let’s say I wanted to go to the city center by car, which is about 2 kilometers. I would encounter 5 traffic lights just in that short drive. On a working day it would be slow, on a Saturday? Forget it. It would probably be faster to walk. Alternatively, I could go by bike and encounter exactly zero traffic lights. I would ride from my house to the bicycle highway (few hundred meters), and from there it’s an uninterrupted route to the city center. It’s a completely separate path and there are bridges crossing all major roads. Near the city center it turns into a shared space where bicycles have priority over cars. The city center isn’t accessible by car at all, so if you go by car you have to park your car at the edge of the city center (paid) and walk the rest. By contrast, I can cycle right up to any store and park my bicycle right in front of it.

naeap , (edited )

4 miles (approx. 6km?) would be 3mins per km -> 18mins by bike

Where is the problem?

In my city in Austria like 90% of the deliveries are done by bike/e-bike
There is even a platform/app where it's guaranteed to be delivered by bike.

How long do you thing does it take to bike a few kilometres?

Yeah, maybe your infrastructure isn't bike friendly, but that's a problem that can be solved.

I just don't get the mentally of "well, it is that way and everything else can't apply here"

Edit: being stoned and somehow missed finishing my first sentence

greybeard ,

And here, it can be as little a 6 minutes by car, assuming good light timing, and a max of 15 minutes, assuming terrible timing and unusual traffic.

BURN ,

Bike is not faster for a 20 mile delivery range

BorgDrone ,

Who the fuck orders food 32 kilometers away? Who the fuck even delivers at that distance? You’d pay more for gas than for the food. Never mind that your food would be cold when it arrives.

I live in a small city in a rural area and I have like 150+ delivery restaurants within 5 kilometers. It wouldn’t even cross my mind to order from a restaurant in the next city over (not that they would accept it), let alone one 40 minutes away.

BURN ,

The US. Our dominos served a 15-20 mile radius in my medium sized suburban town growing up.

BorgDrone ,

That’s absolutely insane. How many delivery drivers do they have for such a large area? 32 kilometers that’s an hour roundtrip even in a rural area with little traffic. If you order around dinner time you must have to wait for hours to get your food, even id they have like 10+ cars.

I checked and there are 18 dominoes in that radius around my home.

Solemn ,

Pizza delivery has electronically heated insulated containers for the drivers to keep the pizza in during the drive. Generally I think they group up orders so one delivery driver will hit up maybe 10-20 deliveries in that one run. It’s normally not driving 20 miles just to deliver one pizza.

BorgDrone ,

32 kilometers is still insane. How long do you have to wait for your pizza if they have to first wait for that many orders that need to go in that particular direction. Must be hours. Here it usually takes 15-20 minutes.

Solemn ,

15-45 minutes… I’m not exactly knowledgeable about pizza delivery logistics, so forgive me if I’m wrong about specifics. There was a decade or so where every chain promised delivery in 30 minutes or the pizza was free, but that’s no longer a guarantee these days.

BorgDrone ,

It depends on how busy it is. It’s mainly the time it takes to make the pizza. Delivery is a 900 meter bike ride. I think Dominoes uses e-bikes so that’s maybe 2 minutes?

greybeard ,

Something else you seem to be missing is often, a lot Americans live off highways. 20 miles may only take 20 minutes of drive time. When I lived in slightly more rural area, most driving took almost exactly minute per mile. Our entire country is designed around vehicles moving at high speed. My city is wrapped in a 60 mile interstate. An unbroken loop around the city who’s speed limit is 70mph. Outside of rush hour, you can take it all the way around at 80mph without ever braking in the slightest, unless there is a slow moving car camping the passing lane.

Trev625 ,

I wish we could ride bikes but here in the US there is absolutely no infrastructure for it. The closest Domino’s to me is 3 miles away. Riding a bike there would be extremely scary.

Even if you take Google’s specified bike route through the neighborhoods you still have to go out onto the main roads at some point. First main road speed limit is 30mph where people routinely go 40-45. Second main road is 35mph where people also go 40-45. And the final stretch of “stroad” speed limit is 45mph where people go 55-60mph.

Here you can use Google streetview and follow the route as if you were biking and see it yourself. maps.app.goo.gl/v4MnfPeZ9LuFzV8y6?g_st=ac (Don’t worry, I’m not doxxing myself)

BorgDrone ,

I’m shocked not just at the lack of proper infrastructure but also at how badly maintained and decrepit everything looks. If you showed me these pictures and told me this was somewhere in a former soviet state in eastern Europe I would have believed you.

You can take a look around my nearest Domino’s. This one is the closest to my place (not doxing myself either here). There is no dedicated cycling infrastructure here as this is in a 30 kilometer zone near a shopping center and a school (max speed ~ 18mph) so there’s lots of speedbumps the road is fairly narrow to encourage driving at low speed. If you move out of the 30 km/h zone you’ll see cycling infrastructure appear. It’s also a few hundred meters from the F35 bicycle highway.

Trev625 ,

Wow everything looks so well maintained! Guess that’s the difference when you look at taxes as doing your part for the good of everyone vs the “gubment stealin ur hard earnd cash” sentiment we have around here. Also it looks like things are just plain closer together too.

There are some nicer places a little bit southeast of where I live but they’re even further apart because the houses are bigger, the lots they are on are bigger and that makes the neighborhood larger which makes getting anywhere pretty much require a car. Not like I could afford living over there anyway haha

vinceman ,

I paid $13.30 Canadian for a small Pepperoni pizza and cinnastix like 2 nights ago, that price seems nuts

Rentlar ,

Yeah, my local Domino’s had a banger deal this past weekend too, was $15 after tax for a 1-topping large and cinnamon sticks. (~11 USD).

StaticFalconar ,

Looks like you could have saved ten bucks by ordering a pick up order and not tipping. Welcome to the price of convenience.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I could have if I were able to take the smell of pizza without having to stop the car to heave every few blocks.

Dkarma ,

They make large Ziploc bags and windows and trunks, bruh.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Do they make them for people who go into pizza places that smell like cooked pizza? Do they make them for me while I put it in the Ziplock bag that’s pizza box sized, something I’ve never seen? Also, that would cost me even more money, so why would I do that?

Also, I can tell you from experience as someone extremely smell-sensitive- you can still smell food through a Ziplock if the smell is strong like the smell of pizza.

Xanis ,

Dude, stop getting defensive. Most people aren’t trying to directly belittle you, they’re offering suggestions. It’s okay to take them at pace, my dude. You are allowed to say “I wasn’t able to pick it up due to some long term complications. Man though, dat price. Woo.”

Some serious and not serious suggestions: You could call to order and pay over the phone and then request someone bring it out and place it in the trunk. You could put a couple masks on which will filter a decent portion of the smell. Walk backwards into the wind while carrying it. If your daughter is old enough and you trust her, perhaps she could have gotten it.

There are options. You posted this to point out and complain about the pricing, then get defensive when others point out how to make it cheaper. Most of us are reasonably sure you didn’t apply a coupon, for instance. Did you consider calling and asking if they could wrap the box in plastic wrap to mostly eliminate the smell, and apologize while explaining why? All we got is “Pizza smell too strong. Daughter picky. So pricy.” We get you have an issue and that is shitty though like of course people will offer ways to deal.

That said, I am sorry you’re going through a difficult time. It’s clear we aren’t aware of everything you’ve had to give up. I hope it gets better.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Walk backwards into the wind while carrying it.

And you’re asking why I’m getting defensive when you think this is a legitimate suggestion?

Maybe just accept that carryout wasn’t an option.

Xanis ,

I did say “some serious and not serious suggestions”. :P

scottywh ,

That sounds debilitating (and completely made up).

FlyingSquid OP , (edited )
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I guess I made up all the posts I made about it in Casual Conversation you’re free to look up, including all the ones I posted while I was at the Mayo Clinic.

It’s been a long con going on since December of 2022.

After all, nothing on the internet is true.

Here you go, here’s a link where I made up being at the Mayo Clinic: lemmy.world/post/13867999

Here’s a link on another forum where I completely made up having my gall bladder removed and how that didn’t work: forums.mst3k.com/t/…/2520?u=flyingsquid

I’m happy to show you other examples of me completely making this up.

Edit: sorry, you don’t get to see my medical records, but I can probably arrange a video chat with one of my doctors if you’d like. Of course, that will probably just a fake doctor that I’m completely making up.

Edit 2: Check out my amazing Photoshop skills!

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9d67d632-9a62-4a52-b94b-fdbdf657e8c5.png

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