Just a few examples that come to mind. Additionally, the pronunciation of the individual words included in an acronym DOES NOT determine the pronunciation of that acronym. See SCUBA as an example.
Do you have any examples of words changed by adding a consonant? Additional vowels in words, such as your examples, usually change how a word is pronounced
Also, your attack in the second paragraph is unneeded and contributes nothing to the debate. If an argument cannot be based on logic alone, I ask that you do not make it.
I acknowledge that you fulfilled my request but personally remain unconvinced using those examples. Tom is generally a nickname for Thomas and borrows pronunciation from that.
However I did remember the words kin and kind but there’s also tin and tint. So I’m just going to declare English overall as highly inconsistent and silly, will still pronounce gif with a hard g, but recognize that you have a different point of view. 🙂
Just because somebody who made a word wants to pronounce it a certain way doesn’t mean that’s others will pronounce it.
Heck, look at the at history of the word tomato. Came from the native Nahuatl word tomatl, which was changed to tomate for Spanish and then tomato for English. The British are closer to both the native Nahuatl and Spanish pronunciations of the word but few Americans will say it as “tuh-maa-tow”.
I mean that’s literally how it works. You pronounced the peanut butter with a soft J. You probably pronounce Lyft as Lift and JoS A Bank as Joseph A Bank. What a company chooses to name its product (gif was a product trying to be sold to software devs) they can choose however they want it to be pronounced. If you stop thinking of gif as a normal word and more as a product that was and continues to be sold then it makes a lot more sense why they literally gave it a catchphrase; “choosy developers choose gif”
And the person we’re responding here to also uses an example of language that evolved to what it is over a 300 year period FROM changes that happened between language barriers - Central American natives to Spanish to English (of which there are 2 variations).
The hard G or soft are pronounceable by the majority of the world. It’s not really a language barrier or change - it’s just inability to admit that maybe they were wrong in how they read it in their head and make the verbal change when evidence is provided.
With that said, they can continue to pronounce it with a hard g but it’s just being obstinate at this point.
Counterpoint:
You had to replace the g with a j in writing, otherwise people would automatically pronounce it gif like gift.
That alone is proof that “jif” is artificial and wrong.
Graphics Interchange Format. Not Jraphics. Unless you spell it out as Jee-Ai-Eff
Also, git isn’t spelled “jit”, it’s not “jit gud”, nor “jit hub”. Other examples that would be wrong: jirl, jirth, jiddy, jirder, jingko
Most of the ‘ji’ sounding words are rooted from other languages, mostly French (some of them brought over from Latin). Finally, languages where ‘ge’ and ‘gi’ sound like ‘je’ and ‘ji’ say ‘Gif’
By that logic, “scuba” should be pronounced scuh-ba, and “laser” should be pronounced lah-seer.
Also “jee” is also how you say the letter “G”.
Gin, Germany, giraffe, gypsy, gib, giblet. Raising examples of words that start with hard and soft Gs is absolutely pointless when both exist and are equally valid.
Why are people arguing about how an acronym is pronounced in the English language anyways? Who gives a shit? When you point out a “rule” in English, there will always be exceptions, many exceptions, to that rule. Even English doesn’t even agree with English: “entree” means appetizer in Europe but main course in the US.
Because it’s always fun to poke fun at how chaotic, anarchic and directionless the english language is. Besides, some of its rules feel more like suggestions
It’s maintained by Google, which is pretty much the same thing - in the end, they get to decide what features get implemented and what doesn’t make the cut. Sure we can fork it, and we can make our own, but in the end as long as their code is the main base, they have a lot of control over all the different forks, as usually the forks will have to keep rebasing their code off of new updates to stay as secure and up to date as possible.
I mean what would stop a company from doing that? I get why they don’t, because a lot of changes and fixes get implemented into the code from various companies/individuals, but if you had enough manpower and money, it could be done.
It probably doesn’t matter for what they do. There isn’t really much need for an ad blocker on a browser that’s going to a store page which is essentially an ad for a product in and of itself. A steam user actually wants that store page to load, why would there be a need for a store page?
And they could transition to something else if Google does something that affects them.
I don’t think it’s too weird. So many apps today are just Chromium wrappers. It’s just easier to use a premade base, plus you don’t have to develop the web and desktop version independently, they can literally be the same code.
While that’s fairly typical and good practice in dev circles, we’re talking about a company that’s single handedly elevated an entire OS to prevent a big company taking too much power. I think the key here is they don’t really compete with Google.
Yep, just like slack, spotify, and anything else looking fancy while wasting few gigs of ram to just open. They’re built on electron, which is practically chrome without tabs.
I wish they could bring back mozilla prism. Like all this electron web app shit is popular, so we don’t we use the faster and more efficient browser engine and use gecko!
Speaking of Mozilla, the project they dropped and fired all of their employees working on it all while giving CEO a million dollar raise, the same one that provided most of the performance improvements in the Quantum update, Servo is targetting being an embedded solution. floss.social/
Nice, I didn’t know Servo was still being developed!
This whole Chromium fiasco is partially Mozilla’s fault, they let Google grab the embedded browser monopoly by making Firefox hard to componentize and letting Electron take all the market share. No competition.
Anything that uses the electron framework uses chromium.
Although in the case of steam they are using the Chromium Embedded Framework(CEF) to embed the steam store into their interface, as well as to power the steam overlays browser.
The worst part is, the CEF really is the only way to implement browsers inside other interfaces. OBS uses it too for it’s browser source. There really isn’t any alternatives - if only FF could create it’s own Firefox Embedded Framework to compete, but that’s probably not in the cards due to costs. Mozilla is a not for profit relying on donations and grants.
And electron is a method for creating desktop app interfaces using website code, it’s used for the interfaces of Discord, slack, teams, Streamlabs (yeah they ripped out the OBS Qt interface and replaced it with electron), and sooo many other modern applications that it’s hard to make track of. And it uses essentially the same thing as CEF at its heart.
Basically any website can be wrapped in an electron wrapper to produce a standalone desktop app.
It is probably fake, but if my wife wanted to check the call history and suddenly the phone gets broken, she would get more suspicious than a just “It’s not powering on anymore”
Lol for real, if you can open the phone to put the note in, you could easily just factory reset it and smash or zap a few things before shipping it, or like be a real fucking human being and be honest with your wife
It’s clearly fake because that’s not how the display comes off the device when you do this repair. You lift it from the top and keep the display cables connected, and only disconnect the battery cables.
If you swap the first and third letters of the red text, and the fifth and nineth, then, replace it with the text of page 131 of The Lord of the Rings: 50th Anniversary Edition (published in 2008), it provides evidence that Tom Bombadil is, in fact, older than Treebeard.
To this day Scrubs still is the show with most hot girls I’ve watched.
Scrubs though. My favourite TV show and my first source of information for sex-related topics during my teenage years as we didn’t really have a pc until later and sex was, and still is, regarded as taboo to my Catholic parents.
Not in my south. I had to switch pediatrics to follow my doctor, who left because one of the other doctors and an RN slept with a patient’s father. And they were all previously married. Everyone who worked there was attractive and also crazy. The new clinic is still filled with hot people, but they don’t sleep with patients’ guardians. AFAIK lol
Yes I remember that. Also it happened more than once that patients seeking treatment stopped by thinking that previously dismissed hospital resumed operations 😂
Prior to House MD. Scrubs launched 2001 and House in 2004. House MD is arguably the most accurate medical show to exist, mainly because the majority of wacky medical mysteries came from actual doctors. It is still TV of course, but real stories can’t be beat by Hollywood make believe.
That’s what they are saying. Sure House is scientifically accurate as far as the symptoms and diseases.
Scrubs is far more accurate, because that’s what practicing medicine in a hospital can be like, and they show how medicine is actually practiced, as opposed to House’s “Superdoc” approach.
A fair and valid point.
I like that these shows give us, the audience, the ability to see into a world which we may not already get a chance to do so on a regular basis, from different viewing angles, while still managing to keep the stories interesting in their own way.
I liked both shows. Each was great in their own merit.
The medical conditions might be more realistic in House, but the process and behavior of people certainly aren’t.
It’s similar with programming on TV. If you look at Mr. Robot, all the hacking methods and computer jargon are really accurate, down to KDE vs. GNOME rivalry, but the plot is total fantasy and nobody behaves as real programmers do. On the other hand, Silicon Valley is more like scrubs - the software is made up, it’s a comedy, but the story and people are 100% realistic (except better dressed, since it’s still Hollywood).
Nah, not really. House has 2 episodes where the writers invented diseases (only 2 on the entire run is very respectable though), but more than that, it’s not realistic to have 4 docs working on one case all week. And the cases are very unrealistic in the sense that a lot are not mysteries. If you’re an MD/DO, you can see some of the diagnoses coming a mile away while House and his team pretend it’s a super rare thing. I particularly remember one of the Lyme disease episodes where I got the diagnosis almost immediately, and I was still on med school.
On the other hand, Scrubs gets the lifestyle of an intern right. Except there’s a lot less sex in real life lol.
Elliot was hot!! I had a huge crush on her. I was always like “JD! You dumass!”. I think this is a typical method to get viewers emotionally invested. Like Joey and Dawson in Dawson’s creek. Probably a ton of these examples.
The shit posters drive a wedge in a community and the people who don’t like the “innocent” jokes leave. This makes fertile ground for ideological take over. Rinse and repeat in Fandoms, subreddits, message boards, etc.
Alternatively, the people who are so brittle that shit-posting causes them to somehow turn on half of the community were always going to volatile puritans.
Except it’s not so black and white. Crude jokes can be funny and unfunny. Shit-posting is one thing but offensive jokes just often repeat themselves and I can understand wanting something new every now and then.
Respectfully mention that it’s kinda insensitive, kinda like, “hey man, don’t you think that’s kinda insensitive?” and you’ll probably figure out fairly quickly which one is the answer. Additionally, if they legit don’t know why it’s insensitive, then you can educate them!
Just remember that tone can be difficult to convey on the internet, and sometimes you have to exaggerate the intended tone for it to be understood. Additionally, in my experience, asking the question from the other person’s perspective (“don’t you think that’s kinda insensitive” vs “I think that’s kinda insensitive”) seems to help a lot.
Yeah, no. The Internet isn’t meant to be a safe space for bigots. They’re free to post and everyone else is free to chase them back under the rock where they belong.
and this is where the conversation usually devolves into a hate fuck of everyone actually agreeing but they used the wrong words so I'm all in on you being the bad guy now.
People have the right to say what they want (at least in the US, mostly), which includes people voicing their disagreement with stuff. It’s a two-way street and we’re better off with it that way. You can’t force someone to listen to you, just like someone can’t force you to listen to them.
What you can do, however, is attempt to educate people if they’re willing to be educated. If successful in doing so, you help decrease the amount of bigotry that exists. In my opinion, attempting to engage with an individual to determine their intent is a way of dealing with it. Why stay silent when you could help make the world a better place?
My brother in Christ, you are conflating free speech with the freedom from consequences. You are free to express your opinions. You will not be arrested for that. You can use the internet however you wish to express whatever opinions you have, no matter how stupid or hateful they are.
However, if your opinion sucks, the community will “deal with it” by down voting your dumb ass, and if you piss enough people off, you’ll get banned. Your rights have not been infringed. You’re just an asshole and people don’t want to listen to you anymore. You can freely go complain about it somewhere else.
I’m sure there is a community on the Internet that would welcome your shitty opinions into their little echo chamber. Go there if you don’t like it here. Or, as you say: “deal with it”.
I’ll make the analogy more clear to you. In 1984 the government got absolute information control, thats what you guys are worried about. In Fahrenheit 451 people themselves censored everything that offended anyone, eventually leading to all the books being burnt.
People have opinions, and lemmy is becoming a worse echochamber than reddit.
Except the irony here is that the people we don’t want here are those offended by everything, like different people existing, and are also the one banning books. most people aren’t as easily offended as you make out to be, but most people expect jokes and behavior to be done in good taste, which translates to meaning no harms and no hate. only extremists of all sorts usually break that “rule”.
But nobody is burning books, we’re just saying don’t be a piece of shit on our website. If you feel like being a piece of shit, boards.4chan.org/b/ is right here, perfectly safe and unburned.
Hey, leave rednecks out of it, the real ones mostly whant to be left alone and the more political ones are just syndicalist and pro workers rights. The nazi ones are city dwellers that own small dick energy trucks.
Man I know lots of small town rednecks and none of them are pro workers rights.
They’ve all been fooled into believing trickle down economics and at least half are anti vaxxers and while most aren’t vocal about LGBT stuff they all roll their eyes and wouldn’t give a shit if trans people were crucified. Oh and they all have oversized trucks just like every redneck does.
I don’t know where this idea of good rednecks comes from, there’s plenty of good people but they aren’t rednecks.
You wherent, you said good people cannot be rednecks, i.e. rural people. But wathever i dont whanna keep arguing about this. Just dont hate people because they have a rural lifestile, Ok?
I end up not commenting because I try to proofread and while doing it I notice I don’t care enough about whatever or my comment doesn’t really matter and just cancel de comment.
we’re in a golden age before corporations, bots, and racist dumbasses come, we’re not popular enough to attract people so the only ones here are foss enthusiasts and i know this is elitist but theres definitely a correlation between that and not being a weirdo jackass. once this gets more popular get ready for the shit hurdling and over moderation again. sorry to burst your bubble. i love this community
It’s kinda like when you filter reviews and everything is either 5 stars or 1 stars. Most people will only comment if they feel strongly about something and unfortunately we live in an outrage culture, so the majority of interactions will be negative. Very rarely will someone put the effort to reply to something they feel ambivalent towards
I’ve noticed that. Everything’s become so black-and-white and lacking in nuance that people feel like they absolutely must fit into one box or the other. ugh
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