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selokichtli , in British people be like

Bladder of wada.

AliOski , in British people be like

Shouldn’t it be the other way around 😏

pkmkdz , in gotta wonder why the aliens would build these rooms

I didn’t even grow up with thps1 or 2 and I’m still nostalgic, because they reused this map in thug2 as tutorial area, which was genius

olafurp , in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

FF is doing great. All the have to do now is the Steam strategy. Do nothing and wait for the competition to fuck themselves over.

unexposedhazard ,

Thats the problem tho, the new mozilla leadership is on the “do anything but nothing” ship. I really hope they either dont do anything too horrible or someone forks it if they do.

unusual_anarchist ,
@unusual_anarchist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

there are already forks in place if you’re dissatisfied with firefox like librewolf, floorp or the new one from mullvad

olafurp ,

Yeah, it’s been a huge waste of resources trying to reinvent everything.

VinnyDaCat ,

You mean hope that they too don’t become subject to enshittification? I don’t have a lot of faith in that.

Besides that, Google is controlling as fuck. They might keep fucking themselves over but there’s no way they won’t start attempting to ruin things for the rest of us.

redcalcium ,

It seems Mozilla is not immune to the AI hype. I just hope their AI endeavour won’t kill them when the AI hype finally ends.

kuberoot ,

Thankfully the AI use is very tame so far, used for stuff like offline alt text generation and offline translation. I’m personally still concerned about copyrights and ethics of the models used, but at least it’s directed towards providing specific features, not a magic cure-all.

redcalcium ,

I’m more concerned with Mozilla spending its meager resources to chase some fads instead of focusing on improving firefox.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

to be fair they are the only ones i know of putting it to actual good use.

ai itself is not the problem.

chiliedogg ,

Steam’s strategy was to be first to market and essentially the only player in the game for a decade, making themselves the default.

Midnitte , in Next Gen of Viral Meme

We’ve reached the point where chrome is now the new IE.

Everything old is new again.

Mr_Wobble , in thought I'd drop in for a hang sesh... but I've got my parachute on
@Mr_Wobble@lemmy.world avatar

This picture sucks. Who did that to this poor kitten? People suck. Hang your own ass from a shifty homemade parachute for a stupid meme, and leave cats the fuck out of it.

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

This is almost certainly a montage

prettybunnys ,

Even rocky had a montage

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

I've fallen victim to a false friend there, haven't I?

(A Photomontage in German is a forged picture in general). So, let me fix this:

This is almost certainly photoshopped.

no_comment OP , (edited )
Lifebandit666 , in Uncanny Valley

I call this feeling “The Holy Spirit” and no I’m not religious, hear me out.

So there’s “The Father” which is you, in charge of everything.

Then there’s “The Son” which is your Jesus, the bit of you that does shit mostly perfectly without any input from you. The scary example of this is when you drive to work and can’t remember the drive at all. Jesus Take the wheel. Teach your Jesus right and you can trust he’ll do things fine.

Then The Holy Spirit, which is that part of you that sees everything, before the filters are applied, and let’s you know something is off. There’s no obvious reason for it, but there’s something off about this guy and we need to get away from him as soon as possible and never interact with them again.

The Jesus part is the important bit for most of us. Learning to play the guitar? Teach your Jesus. When you’ve practiced enough you can just trust that Jesus will hit the notes while you concentrate on singing along.

When I learned to Juggle I just taught my Jesus how to throw properly so it lands in the other hand.

At work I teach my Jesus how to do the manual labour, do the checks I need to do, and I can concentrate on ripping on my work colleagues.

6mementomori , in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

does anyone recommend any Firefox alternatives? I genuinely hate Firefox’s UI and keybinds and the scrolling tabs

AliOski ,

Floorp, I use it and I love it. It’s especially great for Opera refugees, it has workspaces and stuff. Soon Firefox will support tab groups natively, and then Floorp will be perfect. It’s a Firefox fork though.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

Tab groups and non-independent tab muting (seems like it was domain-specific rather than tab-specific last I tried) are the two main things that kept me from switching back to FF as my primary browser (still use it for DTA, for example, but DTA got a big nerf back during the major extension overhaul, so that was a letdown). Tried some extensions, but none really worked in a way I considered usable and didn’t want to just keep trial and erroring through them given I already have a browser that functionally meets my needs, even if I’d rather not be using a chromium browser.

If native tab groups work well enough, I’ll probably give it another chance.

barsquid ,

That we all need something like tab muting really shows that the internet has gone to shit.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

I sometimes just need to mute something for a second that I’m otherwise listening to. Or I’m switching between multiple sources, and don’t want like 3 or more playing at the same time… usually all on the same domain. I don’t want to have to actually go to the tab and mute it. I’m frequently muting and unmuting things that way to the point that even if its the only source of sound, I still mute by tab instead of just turning my computer volume off sometimes out of habit, so its a deal breaker.

I think this just says more about the perils of embracing untreated ADHD than the internet itself.

sga ,
@sga@lemmy.world avatar

you may not even have to change to another browser or fork, please have a look at some designs in trickypr.github.io/FirefoxCSS-Store.github.io/select a design and follow the page, and you shall find the instructions (usually just downloading/pasting userChrome/Content.css)

and for scrolling tabs, if your problem is very small tab size, then try changing browser.tabs.tabMinWidth in about:config

doomkernel , in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

Firefox masterrace

HKPiax , (edited ) in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources
@HKPiax@lemmy.world avatar

I love Firefox, but I can’t shake the feeling that it is slower on YouTube. My tinfoil hat theory is that Google somehow throttles YouTube on Firefox.

cowfodder ,

I’m pretty sure someone discovered that is true recently, but can’t be assed to try to find it right now.

steersman2484 ,
ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

They used to also use the unreleased version 0 of shadow DOM for building the Polymer UI, which - being a Chrome-only prototype - understandably didn’t work on Firefox, and therefore instead used a really slow Javascript polyfill to render its UI.

I haven’t checked on it lately, but I imagine they must’ve changed at least that by now.

adventor ,

Do you use YouTube so much that a small performance difference on a single Site has an influence on your browser choice?

Safipok ,

Firefox is good for webpages not web apps

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

That's a really weird take. Like… what even is the difference supposed to be?

This sounds more like “everything should be as it was back when <insert arbitrary point in time here>! When there were still Webpages, and we were frolicking about the internet! Until the fire nation attacked Web apps took over!”

Safipok ,

Basically I am saying Firefox is not as performant as chromium when loading JavaScript.

TrickDacy ,

Don’t agree, nothing noticeable for me anyhow. Chrome has the ultimate drawback: being under the control of a monopolistic evil corporation

ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

In general, browser benchmarks seem to often favor Firefox in terms of startup and first interaction timings, and often favor Chrome when it comes to crunching large amounts of data through JavaScript.
I.e. for pages which use small amounts of JavaScript, but call into it quickly after loading, Firefox tends to come out on top. But for pages which load lots of JavaScript and then run it constantly, Chrome tends to come out on top.

We’re usually talking milliseconds-level of difference here though. So if you’re using a mobile browser or a low-power laptop, then the difference is often not measurable at all, unless the page is specifically optimized for one or the other.

Onarock ,

What an oddly aggressive take on someone’s opinion

LudwigvanBeethoven ,

A web app is just a fancy name for a dynamic web page. Change my mind.

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

Well, Google will probably optimize their shit for their own privacy invasion sniffing tool browser twice as hard as for Firefox and such

LittleBorat2 ,

Ironically I use a chrome type browser for YouTube and mail checking only. This is also the only browser in which I am logged in with my Google account.

My main Firefox is for everything else including search.

ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

One thing you can test is to apply a Chrome user-agent on Firefox when visiting YouTube. In my personal experience that actually noticeably improves the situation.

HKPiax ,
@HKPiax@lemmy.world avatar

That’s super interesting! I’m not versed enough though, do you have like a tutorial you recommend or should I just Google it?

ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

There’s a bunch of extensions that allow you to switch user-agent easily, I personally use this one, it includes a list of known strings to choose between as well.

jaybone ,

And to check that it’s working, there are websites you can go to which will tell you what browser they have detected you are using.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

It’s not tinfoil, they have been caught doing it and they continue to do it. It’s a scumbag company.

Taleya ,

How the fuck they haven’t been slapped with an anticompetitive is beyon - oohh right. End stage capitalism

DarkDarkHouse ,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I tried both and the videos played at the same speed for me

Promethiel ,
@Promethiel@lemmy.world avatar

You haven’t experienced slow until you try to take Firefox through Google Cloud Console or Search Tools. 15 seconds in Chrome, somehow turns into 3 minutes in Firefox, funny how it does that.

redcalcium ,

Google does that a lot with their own web properties. I remember Google Meet didn’t support background replacement on Firefox, but switching Firefox’s user agent to Chrome suddenly fixed it.

voodooattack ,

Google Sheets is a mess on FF too. Cell selection is broken af.

lepinkainen ,

Same happens with Safari. The page loads in a weird funky way, video sorta first and then comments and suggestions many seconds later.

On Chrome on the exact same computer it’s instant.

They’re doing it on purpose.

FlexibleToast ,

Google somehow throttles YouTube on Firefox.

Because they do. A while back, it was discovered they were injecting delays if they detected Firefox as your user agent.

sudo42 ,

For YouTube on IOS, I use Brave. It does a decent (but not perfect) job of hiding ads on YT.

TheCheddarCheese ,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

Google definitely did extend video loading times on FF a while ago, not sure if they still do it.

stoy , in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

I remember when Chrome was released, all marketing was on how much faster it rendered webpages, I never saw that as an issue, Firefox was fast enough, I tried Chrome for a bit, and hated the UI, I remember being confused as to why everyone loved Chrome suddenly, and frankly, I still am a bit confused by both the sudden shift, and the absolute market dominance by Chrome…

eezeebee ,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

I remember being confused as to why everyone loved Chrome suddenly

Because they were still using Explorer before that

stoy ,

Fair, I can see that, I guess my question was more for the people who already had switched to Firefox

Safipok ,

Over the years my customized Firefox looks like chrome ¯_(ツ)_/¯

stoy ,

I hated Chrome’s UI so much that I switched from Firefox to Pale Moon when Firefox started the whole Australis design language, and only switched back when the current design was launched

PahassaPaikassa ,

I grew up with a 56k modem. Anything after adsl is warp speed for me. I never understood or observed the speed differences between browsers.

Maybe I’m just so slow myself that I dont notice the difference but come on… how much can it be? A few seconds? Who is so busy that a few seconds is a worthy amount of time to try and save (not talking about F1 drivers here)?

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

With browsers it added up to a few seconds of difference per day. It was completely preposterous.

vic_rattlehead ,

I switched from FFX to Chrome back in the day because Chrome tabs were all independent processes in task manager, and one crappy website wouldn’t kill my whole browser.

When Google started their war on addons, I switched back to Firefox.

barsquid ,

Pretty much my same progression except I’ve come back to LibreWolf instead.

MewtwoLikesMemes ,
@MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world avatar

Greetings, fellow LibreWolf user! Hurrah!

stoy ,

That is a good point, I had not thought about that.

psud ,

Chrome is very good at running Google’s pages. Even before Google owned YouTube chrome was better at YouTube.

stoy ,

Google bought YouTube in 2006, Chrome was publicly released in 2008, so I believe you are misremembering the events…

psud ,

Entirely possible, I was pretty busy in my early career back then

stoy ,

The interesting thing is that I was quite certain that I tested it in 2006, but there is zero evidence that that could have happened.

SirKitBreaker , in British people be like
Perturabo , in water...

As a European I like the Czech beers, but gotta admit a cold Coors isn’t bad sometimes.

PeroBasta ,

Pilsen urqell is fucking close to water as well. But so its carlsberg, Heineken, and all the other generic/same beers

MeDuViNoX , in *audible sigh*
@MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

Pride is in the eye(s) of the beholder!

Track_Shovel OP ,

Do you see what I see? Truth is an offense

Thcdenton , in British people be like

I can’t judge. 'R’s are a pain in the ass for me.

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