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HootinNHollerin , in China bad

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  • davel ,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    You’re on .ml, clown.

    Stalinwolf , in Another Zuckerberg meme
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    TikTok be like “REAL SKINWALKERS CAUGHT ON CAMERA”, followed by a clip of a fox screaming and a goat looking through a screen door.

    Kanda , in For anyone asking: Yes, I am paid by the Chinese government 🤣

    How much do you get paid? Where did you sign up?

    AccurstDemon , in some people on this platform
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    Lemmy.ml

    imnotfromkaliningrad OP ,
    @imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml avatar

    your point?

    LainTrain ,

    Его поинт в том что социализм это не только исковерканный марксистско-ленинистский брэйн рот жёстко социально репрессивных стран как бест корея, полно и анархистов и соц демократов которые так же зовут себя социалистами но они не будут симпить за Ким Чин Ина, лол

    imnotfromkaliningrad OP ,
    @imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml avatar

    во-первых, социал-демократы ни в коем случае не являются социалистами, они обычно даже не претендуют на это. их истинная лояльность была достаточно продемонстрирована тем фактом, что меньшевики встали на сторону белых, а германский спд приказал фрайкорпусу (будущему ss) убивать спартакистов. анархисты, с другой стороны, представляют собой большую группу различных типов людей, из которых только часть претендует на социализм (синдикалисты, анкомы итд).

    однако все это не имеет никакого значения, поскольку эти группы никогда не смогли добиться ни хрена. все их начинания провалились весьма плачевно, например, в испании. в отличие от мл, которые действительно смогли улучшить жизнь людей, поскольку они понимали, что репрессивные меры абсолютно необходимы для выживания государства. просто посмотри, как быстро соцблок превратился в абсолютно дерьмовую ситуацию, в которой мы находимся сегодня, после того как горби сделал то, что он сделал.

    о кндр достаточно хорошо известно, что ложь, распространяемая западными сми, в основном является лишь проекцией того, что исторически делалось в оккупированной южной корее. почитай на эту тему книгу “патриоты, предатели и империи” стивена гованса. даже если ты все равно хочешь быть против северокорейского правительства, именно в этом и заключается критическая часть критической поддержки.

    LainTrain , (edited )

    Это делюжон жёсткий, даже базовые факты не правильны, не только в соц блоке и так уже все убого было, но и то что социалистические государства с их жёсткими репрессиями ради выживания государства (оч по Марксу, ахуенно прям) улучшили жизнь это очень спорно, и в Украине и в Испании анархисты добились намного более конкретного прогресса в плане строения социализма и коллективизации чем СССР не говоря уж там про ДПРК.

    Меншьивики с белыми просто сделали альянс из того что у них не было даже шанса против большевиков без этого, по этой логике я могу про молотов-риббентроп так же говорить что из этого следует то что Сталин и Гитлер идеологически сходились.

    Соц дем не обязательно имеет ввиду нородскую модель, и абсолютно так же социализм.

    Я не говорю что в совке всем совсем всегда было плохо, и более того я все равно топю за революцию так как в империи жизнь была ещё хуже, но с того что я вижу (хоть я и не особо начитана а этом плане, спс за рекомендацию) тут намного более поддержки чем критики.

    Edit: I do love how even though we’re on opposite sides of this discussion we are both downvoted for speaking Russian. Lol. Lmao even.

    foggy ,

    You are the meme here. That’s the point.

    The only replicatable piece of culture in this thread is the edgelord leammy.ml user who thinks anyone values their take on socioeconomics.

    imnotfromkaliningrad OP ,
    @imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml avatar

    i originally wanted to point out how ironic it is that a .world user wants to talk about site culture, but considering that you arent even capable of writing the word lemmy, its probably pointless.

    foggy ,

    You’re doing great, keep it going.

    Sailing7 ,

    I fear I gotta move to a different instance. I’m also a lefty but gawd damn I will never try to justify the stuff some dudes on this instance do.

    LainTrain ,

    Same

    davel ,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    There’s a spectre haunting Sailing7 specter

    hanrahan , in Self-Made
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    Daft_ish , in Another Zuckerberg meme

    Punching up. The best kind of punching

    Zagorath , in Is he though
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    Literally Game of Thrones logic.

    EchoCranium ,

    His watch has ended.

    Ragnarok314159 ,

    Watching S7 and 8 is a fate worse than a life sentence.

    NigelFrobisher , in Is he though

    The bad news is that he is now indentured to the necromancer’s spell.

    caboose2006 , in Is he though

    I read this, don’t know if it’s true, that in the UK the sentence used to be “hang by the neck” but then they cut the rope before a guy died. He argued that the sentence was to hang by the neck, and the sentence was fulfilled. The judge agreed and from then on it was “hang by the neck till dead”. Might be totally made up but I want it to be true

    bquintb , in freedom!
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    caboose2006 , in Do they still do this?

    Fucking WHAT!?

    nifty , in Do they still do this?
    @nifty@lemmy.world avatar

    Okay, this is awesome and now I also want to see dog sledding with something like Boston Dynamics Spot

    bigkahuna1986 , in Another Zuckerberg meme

    A lizard person, I fucken knew it.

    Vertelleus , in Do they still do this?
    @Vertelleus@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Practicing for Mad Max.

    maniacalmanicmania ,
    @maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone avatar

    Now we know where they got the idea from for the latest film.

    Agent641 ,

    Mad Max is a slice-of-life documentary

    basilisa , (edited ) in Why haven't you taken the bear pill?
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  • Gonzako ,

    Yeah, the bear pick is the sneaky way women try to rob the average man of status by implying that we are mindless beasts willing to do the worst at the first chance we get.

    Agrivar ,

    Incel said what?

    Gonzako ,

    youtu.be/SSVXbgR4JFs here’s my point better explained. You can reply the moment you feel like actually discussing and not dismissing me based on my gender.

    TachyonTele ,

    Your gender is incel?

    derGottesknecht ,

    Can I dissmis you based on linking this channel with hardcore incel vibes?

    AsherahTheEnd , (edited )

    gets called an incel

    posts incel shit in response

    TachyonTele , (edited )

    demands he isn’t dismissed based on gender

    Edit. I think people misunderstood. I was pointing out the irony of the incels comments.

    Gonzako ,

    Man, I’m so glad I found people like contra points early in my life because you certainly aren’t helping. If you are a lonely man out there, it’s fine to feel alone and isolated. This worlds harsh and changing for the worst. Remember to keep your empathy, even for those that won’t give it to you back.

    Zink ,

    🤌🏻

    mrcleanup ,

    The fact that you think the point of this is your status and not someone else’s safety says so much.

    Gonzako ,

    Because it is about insulting men. No one’s actually getting trapped with bears because they’re answering either way. It’s there to prove a view, would you rather be stuck with a bear or a black person? A gay person? A trans person? A jew? A Muslim?

    It’s there to rile up people about their prejudices and I’m just sad we’re all getting piled on like this.

    mrcleanup ,

    Look, I’m a man, I’m not feeling insulted by this at all. If you are, maybe it’s time to ask why.

    I have no problem being a man while also acknowledging that sexual assault by men is a problem that is big enough that it has created a “caution culture” where people teach their daughters to be vigilant and women will cross the street if someone is walking behind them to stay safe. It isn’t like this is overblown, studies vary but all agree it’s somewhere more than one in ten women are victims of sexual violence in their lifetime. That’s a non-dismissible statistic.

    Sure sexual assault by women is a thing too, but men tend to handle it differently than women do. All we are doing here is acknowledging that in our culture “male stranger danger” is a thing that exists and is pervasive and strong enough that many women would be willing to risk the bear because at least it won’t rape them.

    Why would you be taking that personally?

    KillingTimeItself ,

    personally i’m not insulted, i get it, i understand the problems, but i also don’t understand this at all.

    It’s like it’s hyper polarized almost. The second someone says something or asks a question the response is almost verbatim “yeah but bear wont rape me” (incredibly shitty verbatim quoting but this isn’t a fucking PHD paper so dont @ me lol)

    Like i get that there’s a problem we should be talking about. Why aren’t we? We’re just reiterating the same statement over and over again, expecting for something to change suddenly.

    It’s almost an over abundance of caution, similar to “stranger danger” when in reality, the person most likely to abuse your children, is you or someone you know. Not just a random stranger. Which in it of itself can breed an anti-safety culture, where people aren’t concerned about people they know “because they would never do this” only to find out that, yes, in fact, they would do that.

    Grumpy ,

    I think hyper polarization is one of the greatest societal issues we face currently. Whether it be war of genders, politics, etc. We are losing the calm middle ground that should be the majority without outside influence.

    It’s so incredibly easy to polarize. We see it in this thread too. The top of this comment thread is a polarization too. Essentially dividing men into 2 distinct set of groups. You’re either good or a villain. This dichotomy is ridiculous and every social community eats it up like crazy, this Lemmy included. These create effects of over abundance, as you mention of caution, fear and hate.

    If anyone actually thinks that they’d be better off with an encounter with a wild bear than a man, they’re just stupid and insane. Just walking down the street, I encounter 1000s of men. If there were 1000s of bears, I’m sure no one would go there. But we’re not appealing to logic. We’re appealing to feelings that’s been derived from these polarizations and sadly I see no way for this to end.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    It’s so incredibly easy to polarize. We see it in this thread too. The top of this comment thread is a polarization too. Essentially dividing men into 2 distinct set of groups. You’re either good or a villain. This dichotomy is ridiculous and every social community eats it up like crazy, this Lemmy included. These create effects of over abundance, as you mention of caution, fear and hate.

    yeah, i just don’t understand how people engage in this and don’t feel even the littlest bit of fascist tinge to it, because this is how fascist power structures come into play. This is literally how they work. You have an in group, and an out group, anybody in the in group is loyal to you, and anybody in the outgroup is fucking dead.

    Gonzako ,

    Well, because it’s prejudice being directed and reinforced towards us! I am the average man, and so are you! I am down for all the movements ya’ll need but it needs to be pointed towards specifics. I won’t allow to be put in the same cage I supportedsome people to get out of.

    endhits ,

    Or maybe people don’t like being roped in with terrible people based on a part of them that they have no control over? Just a thought.

    explodicle ,

    In this scenario the woman has limited information. She has no choice but to assume average chances of a man or a bear killing her, regardless of the individual.

    When you’re facing down a threat in the woods, how much they enjoy being stereotyped isn’t your problem.

    endhits ,

    If you believe you’re less likely to be in danger with a bear than a man, you’re just sexist.

    explodicle ,

    That begs quite a few questions.

    berkeleyblue ,
    @berkeleyblue@lemmy.world avatar

    Which would be?

    It’s nonsense. Out of 100 bear encounters about 1 turns violent. Now, how many men does the average women come in contact to daily and how many of them turn violent? I’m pretty sure the numbers are much, much lower than that for a bear encounter.

    My Wife walked passed approximately 1’000 just today. No one even talked to her in a weird way. This whole argument is just fear mongering with sociallly acceptable sexism. This doesn’t solve any problems.

    Also, statistically, strangers are the last people tk worry about. The overwhelming majority of abuse victims know their abuser or are even related. You should be more afraid to see uncle Frank and aunt Jenny in the woods than any random man.

    explodicle ,

    This is a gish gallop so I’m just going to highlight that the scenario in question is alone in the woods, not walking past men on a busy street.

    Please consider that you might be getting defensive, and will misinterpret both the initial premise and any explanations as a result.

    berkeleyblue ,
    @berkeleyblue@lemmy.world avatar

    Not at all. You said being alone in a forest with a man is more dangerous than a bear, and I said that’s statistically nonsense.

    Just because I wrote more than 2 sentences, doesn’t make that a gish gallop.

    There are 2 premises:

    1. Bears are dangerous (I agree)
    2. A random man in a forest is more dangerous to a woman than that bear (I strongly disagree)

    I showed my numbers for that 1 argument and that’s it. I’m happy to be proven wrong, if you have anything more than “it just is”.

    I’m not defensive I find this comparison to be simply ridiculous.

    explodicle ,

    Now, how many men does the average women come in contact to daily and how many of them turn violent? I’m pretty sure the numbers are much, much lower than that for a bear encounter.

    My Wife walked passed approximately 1’000 just today.

    The only person you’re fooling is yourself

    berkeleyblue ,
    @berkeleyblue@lemmy.world avatar

    I still don’t see what you’re getting at, neither do I see any gish gallops here.

    1 is the claim, the other an example on the same subject.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    i’m just trying to figure out why this is becoming a colloquialism, i mean we’ve had would you rather for a while. But this is a very different format from it, and it’s rather, obtuse. Is the most polite way i can think to explain it.

    I hate that i enjoy sociology sometimes, this is one of those times. People suck.

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