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PristinePineapple , in Whatchu got
skycat , in Hackerman

If you want freedom in computing use Trisquel GNU / Linux

shreddy_scientist , in Louis Rossman is right
@shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml avatar

Facts! They buy simply to show off the logo and demonstrate they can afford to hang in a walled garden.

Edit: iPhones are more “private and secure” out of the box, but it literally takes half a brain with 5 minutes in Android settings to surpass this LOW bar.

original_ish_name ,

Android has encryption by default, good sandboxing, ability to install a more secure OS (if OEM doesn’t suck), etc.

The only thing iOS has going for it is that it treats the users like babies and doesn’t allow sideloading

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

it treats the users like babies

That's been Apple's entire M.O. since their beginning. It's why they brought GUIs to the desktop in the early 80s, and retain such tight control over their designs. If there is a chance a user could become lost, misconfigure, or break something, they default to locking it down.

They turn computing devices into toasters that Grandma can operate.

Hyperreality ,

While this is true, when I still used macOS, I simply learnt to use the terminal. It's unix like so it's not that hard. Allows you far more freedom. They basically lock away anything remotely difficult behind the terminal so that it scares off casual users. Basic stuff? GUI. Anything more difficult? Terminal.

I think apple's software is excellent. Certainly better than windows in many ways.

The hardware and how they treat customers when things break due to poor design? That's another matter.

pimeys ,

The default installation brings ages old tools for the terminal, due to the GNU tools updating their licenses to GPLv3. So first thing you do is you install homebrew, which is slow and kind of miserable if you compare it to any other Linux package manager. Of course you can install nix, and have a half-decent experience in the terminal.

Then, of course, a lot of things are just not available or are super weird configured from the terminal. There’s no systemd, docker is running a Linux virtual machine in the background and is slow as hell, try to have a few daemons running as services, configure that from the terminal and use the machine headless. It’s not a great experience for an experienced Linux/BSD hacker, and lot of the stuff is missing man pages, or they are just so old they don’t matter anymore.

And, hey, a new OS update comes and you just have to fix things for hours because the terminal experience is not The removed Way and that compiler toolchain you need every day is now broken…

I stopped using OSX in 2008, when an OS upgrade forced me to give my credit card to their App Store, to load an Xcode component I needed to continue using the free compiler I’ve been using for years before that. Installed Linux after that and never looked back.

gamey ,
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

Pruvate if you don’t count Apples own trackers, they don’t want to protect users fron Fuckbook but rather monopolize data collection and with it properly targeted ads on their devices, one of the only times I ever found myself agreeing with the Zuck!

shreddy_scientist ,
@shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not an A or B choice in any sense, framing anything in the tech space along these lines is equal to Dems vs Reps…There’s vivid documented work arounds for both, both Apple and Zuck deserve to get lost base on what they’ve turned into.

gamey ,
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

That’s not at all what I wrote, the Zuck was just one of the few to actually point out the monopolistic bs behind it all while the world seemed to party because Apple protects peoples privacy now…

shreddy_scientist ,
@shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml avatar

My fault, I mistook your statement.

gamey ,
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

No worries, I guess I could have worded it a little better! :)

Zelaf , in Louis Rossman is right

I buy Fairphone!

gamey ,
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

Great choice, maybe I will have the money one day but at least I know what I would spend it on!

Teritz ,

If they had at least a Headphone Jack and longer Software Support it would been have Great.

gamey ,
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Uhm, the Fiarphone two got it’s last update this year but you probably mean feature updates which usually aren’t that many. It’s supported by LineageOS and various community projects far byond that tho and they provide replacments parts for ages too so beside of the missing headphone jack and that crime of a wireless Airpod clone they did as a result I don’t really feel like your comment is fait tbh.

Teritz ,

With Updates i mean Security Updates for more then 6 Years it shouldnt be the Job of the Community.

I see many who use their Smartphone for more than 8 Years (3-World-Country) ~70% of the Apps can run on older Devices only AI and and Mobile Games are the Exeption.

gamey ,
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

The Fairphone 2 was released in 2015, I get that more would be even better but Android is build in a way that makes continues updates hard and this goes far byond other manufacturers already…

miss_brainfart ,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

I hope OLED becomes ethical enough one day for them to use it

ZombieZookeeper , in Whatchu got
motor_spirit ,

Need hang these up around town. This is remarkable.

ZombieZookeeper ,

This is the one I want to put on gas station pumps:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/283aa93f-ded1-41e4-8dd5-3e73c0777418.png

Kerred , in What HASN'T happened in Florida?

Are there any other states that have that open press law or is it still just Florida?

Knusper , in Seriously though, happy for all the hackermans that get a kick out of them.

As a fellow hackerman, that Linux meme triggers me hard…

DarkenLM , in Whatchu got
Kage , in Whatchu got
cows_are_underrated , in Whatchu got
Globulart , in Water mountains

Probably the thing I miss most about reddit is being able to easily find and laugh at these kinds of exchanges.

Too much sanity on lemmy… I miss the conspiracy subs.

gamey ,
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

I use Mastodon for quite a while and that seems to be a side effect of federated moderation, can’t say I miss it there tho!

Faresh ,

The !flatearth community has some unironic (I think) posts in there if you scroll a few posts down.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/28ff17fb-b392-4258-9c39-cbe786af9a68.png

Lininop ,

Go to most of the political subs on lemmy and you’ll find plenty of brain dead takes

HellAwaits ,

Too much sanity

Uhh I don’t know what subs you’ve been visiting, but there’s just as many stupid people on here as well.

Krackalot ,

I’m pretty sure once you reach a certain threshold of individuals, a minimum percentage will always be this dumb. I’m not sure about the exact numbers, but the phenomenon seems real

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

No you don’t. Trust me. The crazies here brigade others, peddle lies and push genocide apologia.

fushi01 , in Whatchu got
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BuboScandiacus , in Whatchu got
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XEAL , in Whatchu got
snor10 ,

Bruh, that meme can vote!

Habbo hotel… another time

XEAL ,
OADINC ,
PipedLinkBot ,

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/fp2EZbbuMa0

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

glitched_lesbian , in Louis Rossman is right

Wasn’t Rossman’s whole point that people that clowning on others for buying Apple instead of clowning on Apple is aiding Apple anyway?

If Apple get away with it, Samsung’ll do it. So will Huawei, and Google, and Motorola. Apple users are not good punching bags

DmMacniel ,

But Apple wouldn’t be able to get away with it when their customers wouldn’t gobble up their bad decisions.

Cqrd ,

Like everyone using chrome and allowing Google to control the browser ecosystem? Or Samsung and get all that delicious unremovable bloatware on their phone? Every company makes these decisions because rich people who invest in them force them to make profit year over year or get sued. This is a flaw in capitalism.

DmMacniel ,

Yes and we should scold Apple, Google and Samsung and consorts for their behavior. And also educate their users that are seemingly unaware of the shit that is going down.

Cqrd ,

So, tell me what mainstream phone manufacturer is without sin? Don’t tell me to root either, because you know the average person can’t do that

DmMacniel ,

Nobody is without sin. Mainstream phone manufacturers, since they love to build via foxconn and the like, especially not.

But there are atleast two I know, certainly not mainstream, that try to be very good: Pine64 and Fairphone.

Don’t tell me to root either, because you know the average person can’t do that.

why not? Because of tech illiteracy or because the big wigs don’t want to enable people to have an actual choice; but we know its both.

Cqrd ,

Yes. Both. We live in the real world, so we have to deal with what actually exists, not what we want to exist.

ArcaneSlime ,

You should look into the GrapheneOS installation process. It’s actually pretty easy, you can flash it from the web browser. I had a slight problem during install, so I hopped into their matrix room and someone said “try a different cable” and it worked, simple as. The process was pretty well documented, other than my bad cable all I had to do was follow the prompts, and the good cable was the one that came with the pixel, so just use that and you’re gold, you can even flash it from a different android phone’s browser instead of a PC, they really couldn’t make it any easier.

glitched_lesbian ,

hard agree, but a post shaming apple users and calling them suckers is not useful towards that end

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