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hperrin , in Riot official response about League of Legends on Linux for Vanguard anti cheat

So basically, “it’s too hard, and our engineers are not good at their jobs.”

fluckx ,

It’s Harder to solve than you think. I came upon a documentary a while ago where they go a bit more in depth on the subject and what cheaters can do nowadays.

No company has solved the problem tbh. Even games like counter strike are riddled with cheaters and even on faceit there’s plenty of people that are dodgy AF and likely cheat.

It’s not an easy problem to solve and it is, AFAIK, still an unsolved problem in shooters. So your comment is a bit salty. Might as well claim every game engineer worldwide isnt good at their job because nobody has solved this yet. Not that I’m defending riot.

The rootkit “solution” is complete bullshit. It is completely disproportionate and a massive security/privacy risk. And to top it off it’s not even a solution that’s good enough.

This is the documentary I saw: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwzIq04vd0M&

It did remove my appetite for playing PvP shooters for a while.

yggstyle ,

The rootkit isn’t a solution. It’s a bandaid - and a bad one at that. Moba and FPS hacks have already moved outside the hardware of the PC or into the virtual space. It’s a beware of dog sign on the fence meant to scare users… while ultimately doing very little (besides providing a vector real hackers and tools can exploit to gain access to your system.)

Seriously anyone willing to install a rootkit on their system that that company is behind deserves whatever comes their way next.

fluckx ,

I fully agree with that. It’s why I quoted “solution” in the first place.

apt_install_coffee ,

Given the user always has a deeper access to the client (i.e. hardware access) than the anticheat dev does, eliminating cheating is probably unsolvable.

Best bet is probably always going to be a decently funded team dedicated to find and ban cheaters, rather than attempting to prevent them all with a rootkit.

hperrin ,

I’m sorry but I just don’t buy that.

First of all, you can’t solve a problem you’re not willing to work on.

Second, no one is expecting a solution that bans 100% of cheaters and has zero false positives. We all know that’s unrealistic. So saying no one has solved it yet is kind of misleading. There are existing solutions that work well enough for most people.

Third, there are solutions that can run entirely on the server side that would work for every system. Riot just isn’t willing to use them.

My comment stands. Bad engineers that can’t solve a problem other people have already come up with solutions for.

Blaster_M , in Minecraft will now require Java 21 and a 64Bit OS, as of 24w14a

I guess that one person running on a 2013 2GB Bay Trail Atom tablet will finally have to upgrade.

Botzo , in Is there an easy way to trick games into scaling?

gamescope sounds like exactly what you’re looking for.

raptir OP ,

Awesome, thanks. I will dig into it.

raptir ,

Just wanted to report back that this worked perfectly.

Botzo ,

That’s great! I’m glad it was that easy.

raptir ,

For any one who finds it in the future - I just set a Steam launch with gamescope set to half my native resolution, fullscreen and enabled fsr. Games run at the weird 1128x752 and FSR makes it look even better but I get great performance.

randomaside , in GloriousEggroll announces new project to unify Proton runtimes

People are gonna end up forking this just to change the name :: facepalm::

spez_ ,

Already did

Zeon ,

Fuck spez.

A_Random_Idiot , (edited )

Its linux.

People will fork shit for the dumbest of reasons.

kurumin ,
@kurumin@linux.community avatar

Why?

merthyr1831 ,

UwUGL

Dremor , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"
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1000027283

Hum 🤔

sugar_in_your_tea ,
TheHobbyist ,

It’s also heavily skewed in my case due to online hours being the only hours counted, while I use my steamdeck away from internet most of the time.

Touching_Grass , in Gamedev and linux

Real nice unique looking game too. Gameplay is good but the look and feel you can tell was a lot of effort and thought and love. Definitely glad I made the purchase especially after seeing this post. Cool dev

uis OP ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Probably those 3 downvotes are from people who did not read past headline

hemko ,

No it’s the 3 guys who reported a platform specific bugs on unsupported platform :D

GustavoM , in For all the doubters that Linux gaming is smoother and faster.
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Can’t we just stop trying to be “a better Windows”? Just leave the poor fella alone – he already killed himself anyways. :^)

onlinepersona ,

That’ll be in windows 12 if it “goes cloud”.

c0mbatbag3l ,
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That article/leak was debunked, stop jerking off over it.

CaptDust , in What's the best rolling release Distributions that doesn't crash too much

Arch

Tb0n3 ,

Arch

Mohamad20ZX OP ,

Yeah but it breaks down alot so its not for me unfortunately

bear ,

Arch very rarely breaks on its own. But if the manually driven style of Arch is not what you’re looking for, try OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or Slowroll.

Nibodhika ,

If your Arch breaks down it’s likely any rolling release distro will also, because it means you’re likely not doing part of the maintenance a rolling release needs, such as ensuring the config files you’ve changed get properly updated.

Any rolling release distro is unstable, because unstable doesn’t mean what you think it means, it means that any library can be updated.

Mohamad20ZX OP ,

ok thanks for correcting my mistake and I’m sure arch isn’t impossible to use just a little bit tinky

null ,

That’s a fair point, but I think the definition of “breaking” tends to correlate with experience.

There are certain things that will “break” in Arch that are trivial to fix for me now, but were a real pain when I first started using it (GPG key errors come to mind).

Even things like the Grub issue from around a year ago – that’s something I could probably fix with a little reading now, but at the time I just ended up re-installing.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Fair. I used Arch when I was already quite familiar with Linux, so I really didn’t have any issues. I would just read the update notes before running updates, and the only one that gave me trouble was the switch to systemd some 5-10 years ago.

I have since switched to Tumbleweed because I wanted my server and desktop to use the same tools, but I want my server to run stable Linux. I use Leap on my servers and I’ll probably switch my server to MicroOS one of these days.

So far, Tumbleweed has been less of a pain than Arch, but that doesn’t mean Arch was unstable, it just required a little hand holding from time to time.

Mohamad20ZX OP ,

what about endeavour os then

alehc ,

I love endeavour, really can’t go wrong with it. Is super lightweight, rolling-release, archbased (so you have AUR) and more robust than arch I’d say. It has never failed me.

However, my dad’s endeavour system broke once, idk if it was because no maintenance or what… I guess no system is perfect.

nitefox ,

It’s literally arch with a graphical installer…

Kedly , in First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!

The Steam Deck itself is also a great Gateway Linux platform. I’m advanced computer literate but havent really worked up the motivation to fuck around with Linux before since like you said, it was generally understood that Microsoft was the way to go for gaming. Microsoft has been pissing me off more and more since 8 though and now that I have a steam deck I know my next tower is going to be linux as well. The deck is great for turn on and game with its gaming mode, and then when I want to do something a little more advanced I just boot desktop mode on and tinker with linux, quickly getting more familiarity with its quirks and differences

Mereo , in [SOLVED ✅] Starfield: Now getting "Graphics card doesn't meet minimum requirements" with a 6800XT, Arch Linux.

Gotta love that in Lemmy, you can edit the title. Thank you for posting the solution.

bighatchester ,

So weird that much bigger platform hasn’t figured this out yet . I know Reddit can’t and I was told by someone else that twitter can’t either.

H2207 OP ,
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No problem, I dislike it myself when I have an issue and there are no posts mentioning something similar or the OP deleted their post.

I also find it annoying when the solution is buried somewhere in the comments, so I make them as visible as possible.

JackGreenEarth , in Counter-Strike 2 System Requirements for Linux

I mean, I have that, but 85GB of space? I need some space left to store my offline backup of Wikipedia.

noodlejetski ,

all the knife skins

Nefyedardu ,

I think it's closer to 45, might be a typo

H2207 , in Loving PopOS but apparently I can't get the latest Nvidia driver? (Your regularly scheduled "What Distro should I use" thread)
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Nobara is pretty good for a “just works” gaming-centric distro. The issue that you’re coming across is plain and simple, PopOS is severly outdated. Most of System76’s dev team are likely working on COSMIC.

If you want the absolute most, contiuously up-to-date packages, then I can’t recommend anything other than Arch. I’ve used it as my daily driver for a little over 2 years now and I’ve always come crawling back if I try something else. Gaming on it isn’t a hassle, most of the time it just works, not to be a stereotypical Arch user but do read the Wiki. Arch was also my first ever distro, a friend got me into it.

If Arch is a bit dawnting for you then something Arch-based is just as good, from experience I recommend EndeavourOS. Do not use Manjaro.

fraydabson ,

The more I read the more I think I should switch from Linux mint to arch. Never tried it before.

My server is running Ubuntu but I want to switch to NixOS. So switching Linux mint to arch sounds right.

KidDogDad ,

On my gaming rig I run and love Garuda, which is also based on Arch. I’m technical enough to handle Arch but I don’t like having to search around a bunch to figure out which combination of packages I need to make certain things work. Garuda comes with a ton of stuff preinstalled, which makes it a lot less lean than Endeavour, but I think they generally make good choices for default settings (I love their Fish terminal setup), and things like Nvidia drivers and configuration backups through btrfs snapshots just work out of the box.

For gaming I think Garuda or Nobara are the best bets, personally.

nottheengineer ,

I second the “Do not use manjaro”. It has incredibly many issues that arch doesn’t have and the only advantage is that it comes with an installer.

Arch with nvidia is a bit of a pain though. The nvidia driver updates break my system or some games every 1-2 months.

circuitfarmer ,
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Also the new Arch install script is very easy and reduces the need for Manjaro, even for new users.

nottheengineer ,

I disagree, it just does the steps in the manual for you. You still need to know what’s happening.

I tried using it, got a bunch of python stack traces and eventually decided to do it manually. The reason why it failed was that windows put my EFI partition onto a different drive than itself.

An installer needs to catch stuff like that, so archinstall is beta at best.

circuitfarmer ,
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I don’t think a Linux installer should need to worry about Windows, frankly.

vividspecter ,

On the one hand, you’re right. But on the other, the fuck is Windows even doing here:

The reason why it failed was that windows put my EFI partition onto a different drive than itself.

nottheengineer ,

It’s windows. It always does absolutely asinine shit like this. It’s only getting worse as time goes on, so the earlier you switch to a proper OS, the better.

KSPAtlas ,
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I would still not recommend arch to new users or people who want a stable system

Zenzio , (edited )

Tell me if I'm wrong or that's not what you meant. But your Nvidia problem should go away as soon as you use nvidia-dkms (or nvidia-open-dkms) instead of the regular nvidia package (or nvidia-open). I haven't had any problems (of that kind) in a long time.

DrRatso ,

I did my personal yearly “year of the linux distro” litmus test with Nobara and I had many problems tbh, two of the most notable ones were fullscreen video stuttering and shader cache stutters.

So I was like, we are getting close, but I am not sold.

Then I decided to try arch and shit just works tbh, basically no issues with stuff I play usually, the biggest struggle was getting Battle.net up and all it took was changing proton version on steam to get it installing.

MentalEdge ,
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I use Manjaro, and can confirm.

Do not use Manjaro.

seaQueue ,
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Friends don’t let friends use Manjaro

kariboka ,

Garuda is great

ahoneybun ,
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“severly outdated”? You mean updated kernel, mesa, NVIDIA and other important packages?

github.com/pop-os/linux/pull/282github.com/pop-os/nvidia-graphics-drivers/…/191github.com/pop-os/mesa/pull/18

20gramsWrench , in Heart of the Machine from Arcen Games dropping Native Linux for Proton

from the dev:

Performance was 10% worse, and frametimings were less even, but it was certainly playable. This was just how Unity 3D works in Vulkan on Linux, so there was no way to solve it.

Certain parts of this game have geometry that is close together, and on Linux these would flicker. This is because Unity 3D does not support a reversed z-buffer on OpenGL or Vulkan (or DirectX9). This problem is not present in DirectX11+, or Metal. And it’s not present when Proton or WINE convert DX11 commands to Vulkan.

Other than that, everything was the same on Linux as it is on Windows or OSX. We’ve had a native Linux build of this game for its entire life up until recently, just as all of Arcen’s titles have had a native Linux build for the last decade.

So this all feels very strange. But Unity 3D’s support for Linux, and in particular their implementation of Vulkan, is notably inferior to what is going on with their support for DirectX11 and Proton/WINE’s ability to bridge across.

theshatterstone54 ,

To me, that’s a testament to the work that the Wine, DXVK, VK3D, and Valve (I feel like I’m missing someone else that should be credited) have put in to make gaming on Linux possible.

Spectacle8011 ,
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Emersion put a lot of work into Gamescope for Sourcehut, too. It doesn’t have anything to do with this scenario, but I use Gamescope regularly enough to be grateful for it.

20gramsWrench ,

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Grass , in What are your thoughts on the state of native Linux games?

I have seen native versions tank as the default distro setups change over the years. As weird as it sounds it feels more reliable to use the windows version under proton/wine. Often game modding communities stick to the windows version.

Once M$ inevitably introduces Windows Cloud with subscriptions and the lowest tier being ad supported with anti-adblock and a registration fee, then Linux will become the preferred experience native or otherwise.

For the time being though wine and proton are good enough. I have been doing all my gaming on the steam deck and there haven’t been any games that make me feel like it’s a lesser experience in any way. The few games I have any difficulty running tend to be shitty games with micro transactions and kernel anticheat that doesn’t even prevent cheaters. Several can be made to work anyways. You can even install poorly made games and mods using the case folding toggle in ext4 that steam deck does have access to.

I am admittedly still waiting for someone to tell me that Wayland incompatibilities are a thing of the past…

MentalEdge , in SteamVR for Linux gets "experimental improvements to async support"
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Now why has Valve returned to seemingly continue work on SteamVR in earnest, especially where Linux is concerned…

Fingers crossed they’re cooking something interesting up. Whether that’s “Deckard” or not.

clothes ,

At this point I accept that Valve probably can’t compete with the billions poured into the Meta Quest 3, but I’m glad they understand there’s an enthusiastic audience for whatever they do next.

MentalEdge ,
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PCVR is an afterthought for Meta.

YaBoyMax ,

It seems like one of the most conspicuous contributors to recent Linux fixes works for a consulting firm presumably contracted by Valve, so it definitely seems like a coordinated effort in preparation for… something.

Rustmilian ,
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They promised so a while back, some time just after first introducing the Steam Deck. They’re keeping that promise.

Nibodhika ,

As much as I would love that, don’t read too much into it, Valve has always pushed Linux fixes for all of their things (including VR)

MentalEdge ,
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The fact that I still have to use an app on my phone to wake and suspend my base stations, says otherwise.

MrPoopbutt ,

What app can do that?

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Lighthouse PM

Base station commands are just simple Bluetooth broadcasts, so there is no pairing or anything.

You just get the app, and it will show you any nearby base stations, and let you broadcast the suspend/wake signal from you phone.

bisby ,

It’s a nice tool to have around anyway. Even for my windows VR PC. The power at my house went out yesterday and the base stations restarted into a fully on state. I didn’t have to turn on the VR PC to turn them back off, just had to open Lighthouse PM.

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