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KpntAutismus , in First time seeing Devs respond to a lack of anti-cheat support on Linux

the year of me being able to run literally any game on linux is fast approaching.

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  • trashgirlfriend ,

    Single player games don’t usually have anti cheats

    umbrella ,
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    Thats the crux of the issue in 2023. Proton is already quite good.

    DrRatso ,

    I just refunded the stanley parable because I couldn’t easily get it to work on my arch system. Though I suspect the fault lies somewhere between hyprland and wayland, as I tried all other fixes I could dig up, but I can’t easily get X on my system to test, so I just ended up requesting a refund.

    Apart from that things have just worked. Funny how a title that is supposed to run native is one that gave me a headache (proton also just flat out refused to launch it).

    KRAW ,
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    I can’t easily get X on my system to test

    This can’t be true. If you are on Arch, this should be very easy to do. I’ve had a backup i3 session available on my system for years alongside sway. It should be as easy as installing an X based DE and then selecting that session from the display manager

    DrRatso ,

    Im actually not sure if this is important, but I know hyprland has a different xdg portal, so there is that, then I have a dual monitor setup with different refresh rates and last I checked X was a pita to set up for that (to work correctly).

    Like could I actually just install some Xorg DE / WM and send it? Possibly would be as easy as grabbing something from AUR / pacman and relogging, but doing it right from hyprland and with my specific setup is dubious. Then there is the question of actually having to use Xorg to play one specific game.

    In the end it is more effort than I am willing to put into troubleshooting a game I will probably not actually finish.

    RiikkaTheIcePrincess ,
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    For anyone interested: I've been using a large 144Hz 2560x1440 monitor next to a pair of 60Hz 1920x1080 ones with only a touch of xrandr (one line per screen) to make the positioning comfortable for me (just as a matter of preference, due to monitor height differences).

    Idunno when this person last checked (and seemingly then set a permanent opinion, as many do for some reason) but getting X to handle differing refresh rates in multi-monitor setups is trivial now, unless I'm missing something.

    FinalBoy1975 , in Diablo 4 is coming to Steam on October 17th

    Oh, look. I’m alone in saying I didn’t buy it before, not buying it on Steam, either. Go suck it, Dibalo IV.

    molochthagod ,

    I’m with you! Blizzard has been nothing but disrespectful to the Diablo franchise, original devs and players. Not to mention, buying an online-only game is basically renting it. I’d rather just replay the masterpiece that is Diablo 2, which they will never match.

    FinalBoy1975 ,

    I’m so totally with you, buddy. Nice to find peeps on here who know about the Diablo.

    Zellith ,

    Yeah it's on my recommendations and all I can think is "why?"

    atmur , in Linux Desktop Share keeps increasing, 3.13% now. Narrowing the gap to ChromeOs 3.24%

    This makes me really happy to see. Desktop Linux is fucking amazing nowadays. Gnome and KDE being as excellent as they are, Flatpak massively simplifying package management for end users, and Pipewire being Pipewire have all gone a long way in making desktop Linux more easily approachable and incredibly stable. If I’m allowed to be controversial, I’d include Wayland in that list as well.

    I fucking love the open source community.

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  • MrPoopbutt ,

    How is flatpack superior and/or different from other app repositories?

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  • Lanthanae ,
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    You’re right and you should say it.

    People meme on electron, and I think most of it is deserved, but it does make a lot of stuff way easier for devs, and that means more software for users. There’s a reason it’s so popular.

    raspberriesareyummy ,

    I fucking love the open source community.

    Seconded :)

    qazwsxedcrfv000 , in Is this about *Linux* gaming?
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    As stated on the sidebar,

    Discussions and news about gaming on the GNU/Linux family of operating systems (including the Steam Deck).

    Is Proton/Wine a tool on the GNU/Linux family of operating systems? Yes.

    shitescalates ,

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux/Wine/Proton, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux plus wine plus proton. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities compatibility layers and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the wine/proton system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of wine/proton which is widely used today is often called “steam”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the wine/proton system, developed by the win Project and valve.

    There really is a GNU/Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. GNU/Linux is normally used in combination with the wine/proton compatibility layer: the whole system is basically GNU/Linux with wine/proton added, or GNU/Linux/Wine/Proton. All the so-called “GNU/Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux/Wine/Proton.

    gmtom , in Just Switch Over

    Average Linux user when you tell them you actually like using Windows.

    laughterlaughter ,

    Average Linux user > average windows user.

    Plus Linux doesn’t track you (depending on distro, I suppose.)

    But I kid. People should use whatever the fuck they want.

    fromaj_debite ,

    Nobody want to use Windows actually

    RememberTheApollo_ ,

    Linux is great, everyone should use it! No, not you, we don’t have the software you want to use like windows. Why doesn’t everyone use Linux? It’s great!

    If everyone used Linux it would be the exact same user base as windows.

    CompN12 ,

    Agreed, tried linux 6 months back, decided it wasn’t worth my time, will try another distro in another 6 months.

    And this is from someone who installed and used mint through junior high.

    psyc , in SteamVR for Linux gets "experimental improvements to async support"
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    As a heavy SteamVR user the poor Linux support is one of the few things keeping me from dumping windows on my gaming PC. Fingers crossed for continued improvements

    vividspecter OP ,

    Agreed, as I keep a GPU passthrough setup almost exclusively for VR. And I would be happy to remove that maintenance burden.

    Rustmilian ,
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    Valve did promise us that they were going to improve VR support on Linux quite a while back, good to see that they’re keeping that promise.

    lengau ,

    Given that Valve has been one of the driving forces for certain gaming-related Wayland changes, I’m guessing we’ll continue seeing this for a while.

    (Funnily enough, some of these changes were things that NVIDIA first proposed that got rejected, but coming from an organisation with a better reputation people were more open to hearing it. Although I’d guess Valve were also more open about why the changes were needed rather than Nvidia’s “trust us bro” answers.)

    lost_faith ,

    Still trying to get “Room Setup” to run. I am about 7’ under the floor which is an improvement from headset not turning on

    ElectroLisa ,
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    Use OVR Advanced Settings to offset yourself

    lost_faith ,

    I have fpsvr and i think it does that, I just wont have my chaperone and centre marked

    ElectroLisa ,
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    Ah Chaperone requires the room setup then, don’t have anything to suggest there :/

    lost_faith ,

    I have been playing for a few years, maybe it is time to take off the training wheels, go raw dog lol

    yonder ,

    I’ve had enough issues with SteamVR and instead use an openXR runtime called Monado. The result is that I have always had working async reprojection. lvra.gitlab.io is a great resource for linux vr.

    clothes ,

    Thanks for this! I’ve spent several dozen hours trying to get SteamVR working well on Linux, and finally gave up.

    Is the Monado experience close enough to Windows to be usable? Are you aware of any major tradeoffs?

    yonder ,

    Games that use OpenVR instead of OpenXR will have issues, like Alyx and The Lab. And you need a separate program for boundaries and rebinding controls.

    Yerbouti ,

    I got VR to work super smoothly with the new NVIDIA driver, on Wayland + KDE, using Alvr wireless. I can even monitor in real-time a project in development in Godot. I’m officially done with windows.

    joojmachine , in Steve with GN Considering Linux

    My main hope for this is that their feedback helps the development of benchmarking and profiling tools on Linux. They do have quite a bunch of experience with them that could be really useful.

    cerement ,
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    Gamers Nexus + Phoronix

    Telorand ,

    Would be amazing if they could help contribute to NVK.

    fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

    I’d love to see Presentmon get ported to Linux. Especially if it gets updated to understand what Proton or DXVK are doing.

    sic_semper_tyrannis OP ,

    That would be great

    PlasticExistence , in Linux is officially at 99% for me.

    the fact that I can play my favourite games, with my favourite hardware … is just kind of wrinkling my brain.

    You’re finally streets ahead

    ElderberryLow ,

    I love this reference

    bigmclargehuge OP ,
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    And if you have to ask, you’re streets behind.

    rem26_art , in Ayaneo next handheld is going to use SteamOS
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    I think thats cool to see SteamOS on more hardware.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    First, they will ignore you, then they will laugh at you, then they will fight you and then you win.

    We’re at the end game.

    ech , (edited ) in Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney was asked by Verge why there is no support for the Steam Deck for Fortnite

    What a tool. Fortnite generated $6 billion in 2022. He could throw hundreds of programmers just at Linux compatibility and it would still be obscenely profitable.

    xan1242 , in PCSX2 Emulator Disables Wayland Support By Default
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    While I understand that Wayland is broken for the purpose of PCSX2, I am unfortunately biased against the developers here due to the horrible experiences I had with them.

    If anyone will take up the task of fixing this, be warned that they absolutely do not cooperate with you on the PRs that they receive.

    brunofin ,

    PCSX and PCSX2 are ancient. I wish DuckStation supported PS2 too because it’s an excellent modern emulator.

    bgtlover ,

    @brunofin @xan1242 Idk, I use them all the time. And furthermore, emulation needs to be precise and fast, not written in some modern technology, if the need doesn't outway the efforts put into it. Or, maybe I'm mistaken, I may have misunderstood what you mean. So, perhaps you can clarify?

    xan1242 ,
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    It needs to be accurate and fast, indeed. The code being old isn’t a problem unto itself, but rather the side effects of it.

    It is fine for all intents and purposes today. But, there is some inherent difficulty associated with decisions brought years ago when some of the code was originally written, making portability quite a challenge.

    I wasn’t making a comment on its age, mind you. I don’t necessarily think it’s that big of a problem and probably can be fixed easily. If anything, it has gotten way better thanks to the departure from the plugin system and various other optimizations over the years.

    brunofin ,

    In my case it was due to need. I didn’t get any PS1 emulators to run well on my laptop at the time (a Windows 10 Microsoft Surface Book 2) and if I recall was due to old OpenGL libraries used in all emulators, but DuckStation implements DX11 and Vulkan, and performance was simply brilliant, so by modern that’s what I meant.

    xan1242 ,
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    Well, stenzek is the developer of DuckStation and the person behind the new Qt UI and many new fixes on the backend of PCSX2.

    But, I will agree that we do need a new emulator. The emulator called “Play!” is a really good candidate and looks promising. Seeing how it runs on ARM beautifully, I can’t wait to see how far it goes.

    PCSX2 runs fine for most people today, but the foundation is a bit too old for its own good. This is why you don’t see too many ports of PCSX2 to other plaforms. They have improved massively by ditching the entire plugin system a few years ago, but that alone isn’t enough to make it more portable and easy to run.

    merthyr1831 ,

    PCSX2 is great, but i still feel like the performance for gran turismo 4 is still pretty bad for years (and has multiple game breaking bugs that haven’t been addressed!) in certain tracks and if anyone could fix that I’d be VERY happy.

    ram , in Linux vs Windows tested in 10 games - Linux 17% faster on Average
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    See? This is way less ragebait than the last one.

    ReverseModule OP ,
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    Hahaha, I will admit the previous title was somewhat in people’s faces. I just went with a factual title this time. XD

    bastion ,

    Thank you.

    rip_art_bell , in Microsoft - keep your filthy hands off Valve, leak shows MSFT would buy Valve
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    People would riot. GOG would have a massive influx of traffic.

    boo OP ,
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    Not likely, GOG barely has any reach

    mammut ,

    I agree. I’m surprised people are convinced that everyone would just leave a service they’ve been using for years once it starts to suck.

    First of all, all your purchased games will only work on Steam, so you’re probably not going to just abandon it and give up access to all your previous purchases. And then you’re going to think to yourself, “Well, since I have to keep using Steam anyway, and since all my friends are here, I guess I’ll just keep buying games here anyway.”

    Second of all, people, historically, just continue to use large services even when they go to shit / evidence that they’ve gone to shit comes to light. Hell, even when substantially better services show up, people don’t just suddenly switch.

    bgtlover ,

    @mammut @boo agreed, and that's what they rely on, though valve isn't by far the worst offender here

    auraness ,

    The irony of saying that on Lemmy.

    BlemboTheThird ,

    reddit is still wildly popular. lemmy’s user numbers have been dropping over the last 2 months. it’s way more active than it was before june but if anything the lemmy/reddit masto/twitter dynamic is emblematic of how things would go

    Draedron ,

    Which isnt nearly as popular as reddit and has decrrasing user numbers. I don’t see the irony, more that lemmy is proving the point

    mammut ,

    Lol. I left Reddit for Lemmy, and I continue to use Lemmy. I am very much the exception and not the norm, though.

    I will be very, very surprised if Lemmy ends up growing more popular than Reddit at any time in the near future. As others have pointed out, Lemmy’s popularity has been decreasing and Reddit’s popularity has not substantially decreased. There’s still way more people and content on Reddit than there is on Lemmy, and I don’t think there’s any evidence there was any real mass exodus. Some people left, but it was basically a rounding error in the grand scheme of things. I would expect the same even if Microsoft, Tencent, Activision, or pretty much anyone else were to buy Steam. People may get irritated, and some people may even leave and never come back, but most people generally want to just continue using the services they’re used to.

    MenacingPerson , in Microsoft - keep your filthy hands off Valve, leak shows MSFT would buy Valve

    Embrace, Extend, Extinguish moment

    Emerald ,

    Triple E gaming

    PenguinJuice , in Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

    I think most people have caught on to the fact that large corporations generally put out utter shit quality games and to stay away from them.

    warmaster ,

    Gamepass has proven there’s a cake in the oven, and big tech wants all the slices.

    bobman ,

    Lol. I always chuckle when people recommend gamepass when you can download and keep most of the games cheaper with a VPN.

    warmaster ,

    I’m not recommending it. I’m just saying there’s a business opportunity for the companies able to properly serve the type of user interested in that kind of service. Those users exist, as gamepass has proven with their gazillion subscribers.

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