I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux/Wine/Proton, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux plus wine plus proton. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities compatibility layers and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the wine/proton system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of wine/proton which is widely used today is often called “steam”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the wine/proton system, developed by the win Project and valve.
There really is a GNU/Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. GNU/Linux is normally used in combination with the wine/proton compatibility layer: the whole system is basically GNU/Linux with wine/proton added, or GNU/Linux/Wine/Proton. All the so-called “GNU/Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux/Wine/Proton.
As a heavy SteamVR user the poor Linux support is one of the few things keeping me from dumping windows on my gaming PC. Fingers crossed for continued improvements
Given that Valve has been one of the driving forces for certain gaming-related Wayland changes, I’m guessing we’ll continue seeing this for a while.
(Funnily enough, some of these changes were things that NVIDIA first proposed that got rejected, but coming from an organisation with a better reputation people were more open to hearing it. Although I’d guess Valve were also more open about why the changes were needed rather than Nvidia’s “trust us bro” answers.)
I’ve had enough issues with SteamVR and instead use an openXR runtime called Monado. The result is that I have always had working async reprojection. lvra.gitlab.io is a great resource for linux vr.
Games that use OpenVR instead of OpenXR will have issues, like Alyx and The Lab. And you need a separate program for boundaries and rebinding controls.
I got VR to work super smoothly with the new NVIDIA driver, on Wayland + KDE, using Alvr wireless. I can even monitor in real-time a project in development in Godot. I’m officially done with windows.
My main hope for this is that their feedback helps the development of benchmarking and profiling tools on Linux. They do have quite a bunch of experience with them that could be really useful.
What a tool. Fortnite generated $6 billion in 2022. He could throw hundreds of programmers just at Linux compatibility and it would still be obscenely profitable.
While I understand that Wayland is broken for the purpose of PCSX2, I am unfortunately biased against the developers here due to the horrible experiences I had with them.
If anyone will take up the task of fixing this, be warned that they absolutely do not cooperate with you on the PRs that they receive.
@brunofin@xan1242 Idk, I use them all the time. And furthermore, emulation needs to be precise and fast, not written in some modern technology, if the need doesn't outway the efforts put into it. Or, maybe I'm mistaken, I may have misunderstood what you mean. So, perhaps you can clarify?
It needs to be accurate and fast, indeed. The code being old isn’t a problem unto itself, but rather the side effects of it.
It is fine for all intents and purposes today. But, there is some inherent difficulty associated with decisions brought years ago when some of the code was originally written, making portability quite a challenge.
I wasn’t making a comment on its age, mind you. I don’t necessarily think it’s that big of a problem and probably can be fixed easily. If anything, it has gotten way better thanks to the departure from the plugin system and various other optimizations over the years.
In my case it was due to need. I didn’t get any PS1 emulators to run well on my laptop at the time (a Windows 10 Microsoft Surface Book 2) and if I recall was due to old OpenGL libraries used in all emulators, but DuckStation implements DX11 and Vulkan, and performance was simply brilliant, so by modern that’s what I meant.
Well, stenzek is the developer of DuckStation and the person behind the new Qt UI and many new fixes on the backend of PCSX2.
But, I will agree that we do need a new emulator. The emulator called “Play!” is a really good candidate and looks promising. Seeing how it runs on ARM beautifully, I can’t wait to see how far it goes.
PCSX2 runs fine for most people today, but the foundation is a bit too old for its own good. This is why you don’t see too many ports of PCSX2 to other plaforms. They have improved massively by ditching the entire plugin system a few years ago, but that alone isn’t enough to make it more portable and easy to run.
PCSX2 is great, but i still feel like the performance for gran turismo 4 is still pretty bad for years (and has multiple game breaking bugs that haven’t been addressed!) in certain tracks and if anyone could fix that I’d be VERY happy.
I agree. I’m surprised people are convinced that everyone would just leave a service they’ve been using for years once it starts to suck.
First of all, all your purchased games will only work on Steam, so you’re probably not going to just abandon it and give up access to all your previous purchases. And then you’re going to think to yourself, “Well, since I have to keep using Steam anyway, and since all my friends are here, I guess I’ll just keep buying games here anyway.”
Second of all, people, historically, just continue to use large services even when they go to shit / evidence that they’ve gone to shit comes to light. Hell, even when substantially better services show up, people don’t just suddenly switch.
reddit is still wildly popular. lemmy’s user numbers have been dropping over the last 2 months. it’s way more active than it was before june but if anything the lemmy/reddit masto/twitter dynamic is emblematic of how things would go
Lol. I left Reddit for Lemmy, and I continue to use Lemmy. I am very much the exception and not the norm, though.
I will be very, very surprised if Lemmy ends up growing more popular than Reddit at any time in the near future. As others have pointed out, Lemmy’s popularity has been decreasing and Reddit’s popularity has not substantially decreased. There’s still way more people and content on Reddit than there is on Lemmy, and I don’t think there’s any evidence there was any real mass exodus. Some people left, but it was basically a rounding error in the grand scheme of things. I would expect the same even if Microsoft, Tencent, Activision, or pretty much anyone else were to buy Steam. People may get irritated, and some people may even leave and never come back, but most people generally want to just continue using the services they’re used to.
I’m not recommending it. I’m just saying there’s a business opportunity for the companies able to properly serve the type of user interested in that kind of service. Those users exist, as gamepass has proven with their gazillion subscribers.
The “distributions” argument always smells like bullshit. Developers actually interested on supporting Linux usually stick to one or two distros of their choice. (Typically Ubuntu.)
Beyond that: I don’t play LoL, but the fact that they need such an aggressive rootkit as anti-cheat hints poor game design. As in, why are your players so eager to cheat?
The “distributions” argument always smells like bullshit. Developers actually interested on supporting Linux usually stick to one or two distros of their choice. (Typically Ubuntu.)
My thoughts exactly. It is not unheard of at all for Linux ports to only be guaranteed to function on specific distros. It's well within the realm of possibility and this is not a real stumbling block at all.
Typical for a group of people that probably dedicated their whole careers to Windows. Could have just put it plainly that they don’t want to pay engineers that have the skills to do this on Linux.
I’m guessing that people just like feeling superior to others and video games are a convenient outlet for that. There’s no changing that via game design unless LoL ceases to be a competitive game.
This is a game, not something interacting with the desktop much, it can be totally self-contained binary. So they just need to publish a Flatpak or .deb, no need to support bunch of distros that community decided to create and support, because who create a new packaging format should be responsible to promote it.
It’s more likely an admission they have to trampoline every gpl function in the kernel which isn’t really easy to do and would let that kernel module run on any other kernel. Otherwise they would have to do a shim like nvidia which would mean a whole other level of issues like saying we support Linux but only Ubuntu which as a non Ubuntu user would mean to me they do not in fact support Linux. I’d vote with walle here but I already don’t own this game as my friends said the user base is terrible years ago but this just means there is no reason to buy any of their games.
The campaign plans to get France's consumer rights agency to rule against Ubisoft's killing of The Crew, making game publishers have to leave games at least partially functional when online service ends (or else risk legal action & costs).
France has strong consumer protections, Europe doesn't treat EULAs as very legally serious, and Ubisoft was selling the game mere months before they "discontinued online service", which also stopped the single player mode from working.
And France's consumer protection agency accepts complaints from international customers, too, in English.
So, no, don't just keep your head down & "play old games". This is a perfect chance to actually fix shit.
They should have to offer the server software (or open source it) if the turn off their servers
Similar to computing devices without root rights (mainly phones/tablets) where I want forced root access (or better unlocking of bootloader), if the manufacturer does not offer new (security) updates.
You have a point. But “play old games,” is also part of consumer choice. OP didn’t say “just suck it up and play old games.” I’d say it’s more like “do not buy new games. Stick to perfectly good and playable old games.” In theory, companies should feel it in their pockets.
I mean, the original point stands as written though. The ENTIRE friends/overlay revamp served no purpose other than looking prettier, and it’s still broken for a lot of setups. When I try to chat from overlay, it minimizes my game and opens a desktop chat window EVERY TIME. For a lot of games the overlay just doesn’t work at all. And that’s not even getting into the issues with the main interface. There’s a LOT of room for improvement.
The person I was replying to said that valve prioritizes making things work before making them pretty.
I was giving a major example of valve making something broken in terms of functionality but pretty, to replace something that was less pretty but functional.
It is usable, and to me it’s fine, but I just think it’s not valid praise to give to valve in general.
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