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gaiussabinus , in Linux vs Windows, my experience

Dunno bro everything works for me on mint. I also have higher frame rates and better stability. Getting Stable Diffusion working on my AMD card is probably the hardest thing i have had to do. Even that is three lines in the terminal now. You may need to dick around with proton settings and read the forums to find what Cyberpunk runs on best if you want to deal with the bug.

DarkThoughts ,

It works on AMD GPUs now? Or just the latest gen?

stargazingpenguin ,

I’m using Stable Diffusion on my 6000 series card and it works fine. Obviously a lot slower than Nvidia cards, but definitely usable.

pelotron ,
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I’ve been using it the last couple days on a 7800xt. It works but has been fairly unstable. Hopefully that’s just new hardware driver problems that will get sorted out eventually.

stargazingpenguin ,

Is it just in Stable Diffusion or in general? I’ve been happy with my 6800xt so far, but it’s always nice to know what’s available. I keep meaning to try it with the Arc A750 I have laying on the shelf, according to some benchmarks I’ve seen it’s better than my card at image generation.

pelotron ,
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In general, unfortunately. I’ve had a couple instances of my machine hard locking up, game crashes causing the entire desktop session to restart, and have had to try many different kernels.

stargazingpenguin ,

Hmm, that’s not good. Good to know though. I see it launched 4 months ago, so I hope it’ll get a good bit better! It’s definitely a major downside to having a cutting edge system.

DarkThoughts ,

Is there an up do date installation instruction for it that doesn't require some higher degrees in terminal magic? The last time I checked, which wasn't too long ago, I just stopped bothering when reading halfway through.

stargazingpenguin ,

I’ve been cheating a bit and just using EasyDiffusion. It’s just a shell script that runs and configures everything for you. It’s basically a portable installation that keeps everything in a nice neat folder. I have actually gone through the whole installation process before, and it can definitely be a slog with my limited experience.

DarkThoughts , (edited )

Huh, that did actually work. Except that the download doesn't like VPNs. I did get a potential performance warning though.

MIOpen(HIP): Warning [SQLiteBase] Missing system database file: gfx1030_16.kdb Performance may degrade. Please follow instructions to install: https://github.com/ROCmSoftwarePlatform/MIOpen#installing-miopen-kernels-package

Edit: Is there a way to install extensions like ReActor? The wiki has a plugins section but that seems to be not helpful at all.

stargazingpenguin ,

I don’t recall getting that warning, but I did need to adjust a few things to get my GPU recognized. I haven’t had a chance to read too much about your message, but with a quick skim over the documentation it appears it just affects startup latency.

gaiussabinus ,

There is a line you need to change in one of the files so it looks for gfx1024 or whatever your card is. Its a pain.

DarkThoughts , in Three gaming-focused Linux operating systems beat Windows 11 in gaming benchmarks

Computerbase is very solid and well known in Germany and have been covering Linux quite a bit for a while now.
Performance of course can fluctuate heavily between games but the amount of progress that Linux made over the past decade is nothing but astonishing.

wrath_of_grunge ,
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that's kind of my take on it too. Linux has come so far from what it used to be like. it's not quite ready to see mass-adoption, but it's making some amazing strides. so many different parties have been contributing to a massive effort to iron out some of the issues with Linux. once performance improves significantly over Windows, and compatibility gets a little more wide-spread, you'll start to see people willing to put up with the teething problems, in the name of superior performance.

THAT is when Linux will see more mainstream success.

some year, i don't know when, really will be the year of Linux.... maybe.

DarkThoughts ,

I don't think we'll see like some definitive year of Linux, instead we will just have slowly rising user numbers. The only exception would be if Microsoft fucks up so badly that it will completely drive people away from Windows.

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  • LennethAegis ,
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    Always count on a corporation to make something worse.

    DarkThoughts ,

    Apparently so. At least that's what the numbers suggest.

    dallo ,

    You mean worse than the train wreck of Vista, then 8, then 11? Yes they will continue to do worse for most people but it wont matters as long as it is the default choice.

    southsamurai , in Three gaming-focused Linux operating systems beat Windows 11 in gaming benchmarks
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    Is arch really gaming focused though?

    cyberpunk007 ,

    shrug, I’ve been using arch and Manjaro for years and gaming in them. They are what you make them, and AUR is massive and solves a lot of problems I have in other distros so that’s why I use it.

    p5f20w18k ,
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    Arch is focused on however you put it together

    oo1 ,

    Arch is focused like the same way a beach is a camera lens.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Exactly. The only thing Arch focuses on is not focusing on anything. They ship packages as vanilla as possible, have pretty much no default configuration, etc. In short, they try to make as few assumptions as possible.

    It ends up being pretty good for gaming because Linux is pretty good for gaming. They’re explicitly not doing anything special here.

    lea ,

    Arch is focused on being cutting-edge and lightweight which happens to be perfect for gaming performance in most cases but that’s all.

    fmstrat ,

    SteamOS is based on Arch, likely why they picked it.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    That’s like saying PlayStation 5 and Switch are based on FreeBSD, so you should game on FreeBSD (well, not quite, but hopefully the point is clear). FreeBSD isn’t good for gaming, it’s just liberally licensed and easy to build on top of, hence why it’s used.

    Valve has reasons to use an Arch base, and none of them have anything to do with any specific benefit regarding gaming. It’s easy to fork and maintain customized build files for since it makes so few assumptions (packages are as vanilla as possible in Arch, so it’s easier to maintain a patch set).

    Valve likely has patches in SteamOS that haven’t made it to upstream Arch, and there’s likely a number of packages that are quite outdated vs upstream Arch, so installing upstream Arch will give you quite a different experience vs SteamOS.

    away2thestars , in Linux vs Windows, my experience
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    You can always dual boot, Linux for working is amazing. And your can also install a VM but I haven’t tried it for gaming

    nosnahc OP ,

    I don’t work with this computer, my company provides us one. But thanks for the idea!

    DarkThoughts ,

    VMs are slow and not suited for gaming.

    x2XS2L0U ,

    You can even tunnel your hardware directly to the VM, e.g. graphics card and have like a 2% loss on the virtualization side. Not much of a deal, if you know what you’re doing. Bonus: You can restrict the VMs network, do external backups etc.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    You’ll need two GPUs, no? Passing a GPU through is relatively easy, but trying to share one isn’t going to work for gaming.

    But if you have the extra hardware and lots of cores, VM gaming can be a very good experience.

    Link ,

    You can do it on a single GPU system but you can’t use Linux and Windows at the same time.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Isn’t that just a dual boot with extra steps? Or are you saying you could have a SW rendered Linux GUI while Windows is using the GPU, then switch Linux to use the GPU later? I thought there were lots of issues with swapping GPUs between host and VM without a reboot?

    Could you provide more info?

    Link ,

    It’s just like a dual boot but slightly faster. You also don’t need to worry about having two drives, messing around with partitions or having Windows overwrite your boot loader.

    As you pass your GPU to the VM, Linux can’t use it anymore so all you see on your screen is the VM. When you start and shutdown the VM, a script runs to prepare the VM to boot or to hand over the GPU back to the host.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    So can you launch it straight from a graphical desktop and just suspend the graphical bits somehow? Or do you need to drop to a vtty first? Does it work properly when loading from a snapshot, or do you have to boot each time?

    I don’t need to use Windows very often, but it would be nice to run a script to get into it, then he back where I was after closing out.

    Link ,

    You can launch it from virt-manager or from the command line providing you run the script first manually.

    The script will kill the display manager and unload the drivers ready to give the GPU to the VM so any GUI programs you have open will be instantly closed.

    Regarding snapshots I’m not sure about this as I don’t use them but I have a feeling that libvirt doesn’t support snapshots with passed through devices.

    away2thestars ,
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    This is amazing, have you got any guide? I tried using boxes but didn’t get good performance

    iopq , in Three gaming-focused Linux operating systems beat Windows 11 in gaming benchmarks

    These tech YouTubers should do Linux comparisons. These are not small differences when comparing, let’s say, Nvidia 4060 and the RX 7600. It could make the AMD GPU edge out the more expensive Nvidia offering

    cyberpunk007 ,

    I’d like this. At first I stuck with Nvidia because they had drivers for Linux. But I’ve been on that train so long. Only reason I’m still on it is cuda cores for video editing with davinci resolve.

    fmstrat ,

    Every comment should be “But what about in Linux?”

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    And with the popularity of the Steam Deck, it’s actually a pretty reasonable thing to do now. I want three sets of numbers: Windows and Linux on the same hardware, and Steam Deck. Maybe do a fourth for Windows handheld PCs like ROG Ally.

    sugar_in_your_tea , in Recommended linux variant for gaming.

    I always recommend Linux Mint Debian edition. I don’t use it, but I’ve had friends who’ve had good luck with it. Straight Debian is a great choice as well. If packages aren’t new enough, you can always use testing and keep a really stable experience.

    It honestly doesn’t matter much which you pick unless you’re using the absolute latest hardware or something. I personally use OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, which has worked really well for me. I don’t recommend it because there just isn’t as much help available online specific to the OS, so I tend to recommend more mainstream distros. I used Arch for a few years before I switched, and Tumbleweed feels pretty much the same, but with less fiddling.

    Anyway, regardless of what you pick, feel free to come back and ask questions. Most problems have similar solutions regardless of distro because Linux is Linux, so please don’t hesitate to ask.

    just_another_person , in Two issues with Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 via Lutris

    If you own a legit copy of the game, find a crack to remove the protection, or download an already cracked version. You paid for it, and should be allowed to run it how you want.

    Amends1782 , in Wine-GE-Proton8-25 Released

    I need to ask a dumb question. I’ve only been using the steam provided proton versions. Should I use the GE ones and if so how? Thanks

    JTskulk ,

    I upgraded to bleeding edge proton in steam for this issue, works great. Upgrading is very easy.

    Amends1782 ,

    In steam I am typically using proton experimental or hotfix. If those fail I use whatever proton db users recommend

    JTskulk ,

    I am now as well :) Sounds like a simple way to handle it.

    terminhell ,

    Not always. It’s largely going to depend on the game. GE is a tweaked version fork. I’ve had some games run fine with either version. But I’ve also had a mix of some running better with GE, some without.

    I forget the name, but there’s a GUI tool now (check your package manger) that makes the setup really easy. Though the manual setup is about as complicated as creating a folder and pasting the GE file in it and restart steam.

    vividspecter ,

    If you don’t have an issue with a particular game, then you probably don’t need it.

    Amends1782 ,

    Thanks. There have been a couple that I look up on Proton DB and they recommend GE over normal and I’ve been too afraid or lazy to implement it

    DarkThoughts ,

    An easy way to download and maintain them is by using the ProtonUp app. I personally keep Experimental by default in Steam and switch to GE for specific titles when necessary, as Experimental hotfixes can roll out quicker than GE updates. Some people argue that it is better to use GE because he updates DXVK etc. to the latest versions but you can also opt into the bleeding edge branch of Experimental in Steam by searching for Proton in your library, right click and go into its properties and then to Betas.

    Amends1782 ,

    I had no idea about proton beta and bleeding edge. Amazing recommendation thank you

    Sanctus , in Steam Linux Marketshare Surges To Nearly 2% In November
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    We’re 0.02% ahead btw

    UprisingVoltage ,

    I’m jumping on the mint ship during the holidays. See you never windows!

    Sanctus ,
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    Every penguin is an ally!

    Oha ,

    One of us

    ShitOnABrick , (edited )
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    Enjoy I use mint 21.1 Victoria 21.1 xfce on my gaming laptop myself

    Little tip make a second drive with a backup so that if it ever gets a bit to complicated you’ll have something to come back to also you could duel boot as well if you need windows for work or smth although tbh I hardly have any issues with mint it normally works outside the box . Mints an all-round decent distro in my expirence

    I also recommend you install neofetch onto your system when you do install Linux you can customise neofetch to look however you want you can also rice neofetch as well

    sudo apt install neofetch

    github.com/dylanaraps/neofetch

    UprisingVoltage ,

    Thanks for the tips! I’ve actually been using mint on my work pc for two years now and I love it, no problems whatsoever.

    Now it’s time to jump ship on my gaming pc as well. So excited about it!

    JTskulk , in Workaround for broken Battle.net update 14542

    See gamingonlinux.com/…/battlenet-broke-in-wine-proto… for details. I went this route as I play in Steam, I had to do a little bit of googling to find out that he means go to the properties of Proton (like you would a game) and change it to Beta there. My beloved SC2 is now running fine again :)

    gnuplusmatt , in Recommended linux variant for gaming.

    Fedora or Nobara if you’re lazy are a good option. If an immutable variant appeals, I have a good time on Kinoite. There is a gaming centric ublue version now too IIRC

    DLSantini , in Recommended linux variant for gaming.

    Garuda or Chimera, depending on what you want, exactly.

    heleos , in Recommended linux variant for gaming.

    I use tumbleweed, but I had a strange issue with the flatpak version of heroic launcher. I ran a benchmark of cyberpunk 2077 with the flatpak heroic, and was averaging 100 fps. I had nixos installed on a separate hard drive and that benchmark was 160 fps. I thought there was an issue with opensuse, but I installed the flatpak version of heroic on nixos and also got 100 fps. So I installed the regular version on tumbleweed and have 160 fps. I would keep that in mind when looking at programs to launch games, whether it’s wine, bottles, heroic, lutris, etc

    hemko , in Recommended linux variant for gaming.

    Debian is exactly pike Ubuntu, with all bullshit removed never added

    Ibaudia , in Recommended linux variant for gaming.
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    Realistically just use what you prefer. The differences between distros, even when it comes to performance, are very small when it comes to gaming. The most important things IMO are good Wayland support, stability, and consistent updates.

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