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mox , (edited ) in Motherboard upgrade

Linux handles a 7800X3D in the ASUS TUF Gaming B650-Plus just fine, and since the motherboard in your bundle is almost the same, I would expect that to work well, too.

Some of the early BIOS versions on AM5 boards caused hardware damage if EXPO was enabled, and Asus was one of the affected brands. Updated BIOS versions with sensible VSoC limits have been available for quite a while now. I suggest updating the BIOS soon after you have your system running, just in case you get old stock. Rest assured that just booting up with default settings won’t fry it, even if it has an old BIOS.

Asus boards are among the few that officially support ECC RAM, which is nice if that’s important to you.

Asus warranty support for their video cards and ROG Ally have been particularly bad lately. I don’t know if their motherboard support has the same problems. (I’ve never had to RMA a motherboard.)

I have a GeForce RTX 3070 which I will keep and I am running Linux Mint 21.2. Any thoughts on compatibility?

AMD GPUs are better supported and better integrated with linux, so you might consider one next time you upgrade, but the GeForce card you already have ought to work fine for gaming and basic desktop stuff (once you install Nvidia’s proprietary drivers).

AnEilifintChorcra , in Motherboard upgrade

I have a Gigabyte B650 skew and I’m happy with it, I think the X670’s are overpriced for general use tbh and the 7800X3D was my first choice but it was way too expensive where I live so I got the 7900x. I’m not sure if its still a thing but when I was buying last year, it was recommended to go with 6000 or lower speeds for AMD CPUs for better stability so that should be fine for you.

I’m in Europe so I can’t comment on value because its completely different over here and also Microcenter is auto blocking me anyway lol

There was an issue with Over Current Protection on AM5 motherboards when EXPO is enabled that can cause the CPU (especially X3D) to die.

GamersNexus has a few videos on it www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiTngvvD5dI&t=0

So I would defintely recommend checking Asus’s website to see what firmware version they recommend using and upgrading to that before anything else.

xylogx OP ,

Thanks that is super-helpful! There is also a Gigabyte option that is only moderately more expensive. I will check it out!

AnEilifintChorcra ,

TBH I usually wouldn’t recommend one vendor over another when it comes to motherboards because realistically nobody spends much time in the BIOS anyway, I’d just suggest the one that has the features you actually want but as the other comment pointed out Asus has been pretty crappy with customer repairs and warranty stuff so it might be worth spending a little bit more in case you do have an issue down the line but that’s completely up to you, I have no idea if Gigabyte is better to deal with than Asus, but I do remember they had issues with exploding PSUs before lol

Asus Warranty and Repair Issues: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pMrssIrKcY&t=0

www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3DwhTc7Z4o&t=0

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYdtpU8FKO8&t=0

Asus issues related to AM5 www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGfc-JBxlY&t=0

Gigabyte’s Exploding PSUs www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACtT_rzToI&t=0

psyc , in SteamVR for Linux gets "experimental improvements to async support"
@psyc@lemmy.world avatar

As a heavy SteamVR user the poor Linux support is one of the few things keeping me from dumping windows on my gaming PC. Fingers crossed for continued improvements

vividspecter OP ,

Agreed, as I keep a GPU passthrough setup almost exclusively for VR. And I would be happy to remove that maintenance burden.

Rustmilian ,
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Valve did promise us that they were going to improve VR support on Linux quite a while back, good to see that they’re keeping that promise.

lengau ,

Given that Valve has been one of the driving forces for certain gaming-related Wayland changes, I’m guessing we’ll continue seeing this for a while.

(Funnily enough, some of these changes were things that NVIDIA first proposed that got rejected, but coming from an organisation with a better reputation people were more open to hearing it. Although I’d guess Valve were also more open about why the changes were needed rather than Nvidia’s “trust us bro” answers.)

lost_faith ,

Still trying to get “Room Setup” to run. I am about 7’ under the floor which is an improvement from headset not turning on

ElectroLisa ,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Use OVR Advanced Settings to offset yourself

lost_faith ,

I have fpsvr and i think it does that, I just wont have my chaperone and centre marked

ElectroLisa ,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ah Chaperone requires the room setup then, don’t have anything to suggest there :/

lost_faith ,

I have been playing for a few years, maybe it is time to take off the training wheels, go raw dog lol

yonder ,

I’ve had enough issues with SteamVR and instead use an openXR runtime called Monado. The result is that I have always had working async reprojection. lvra.gitlab.io is a great resource for linux vr.

clothes ,

Thanks for this! I’ve spent several dozen hours trying to get SteamVR working well on Linux, and finally gave up.

Is the Monado experience close enough to Windows to be usable? Are you aware of any major tradeoffs?

yonder ,

Games that use OpenVR instead of OpenXR will have issues, like Alyx and The Lab. And you need a separate program for boundaries and rebinding controls.

Yerbouti ,

I got VR to work super smoothly with the new NVIDIA driver, on Wayland + KDE, using Alvr wireless. I can even monitor in real-time a project in development in Godot. I’m officially done with windows.

kibiz0r , in Motherboard upgrade

That looks like a pretty good deal. At least on paper. ASUS is having a bit of a consumer care meltdown at the moment, so you may wanna check that situation out before you decide. (Search “gamers nexus asus”)

therealjcdenton , (edited ) in Start Steam minimized

In ~/.config/autostart/steam.desktop look for the line Exec=steam %U and change it to Exec=steam -nochatui -nofriendui -silent %U

It’ll start up minimized to your system tray

kemsat OP ,

The line “Exec=steam %U” doesn’t exist in steam.desktop. I did find “Exec=/usr/bin/steam-runtime %U” so I’ll try changing that.

EDIT: this worked, thank you very much!

therealjcdenton ,

Happy to help :)

serpineslair , in Start Steam minimized

Which window manager/desktop environment are you using? If you are using a desktop environment is there an application called startup applications or something of the like? I personally use my window manager’s config file to startup applications. EDIT: changed WM to window manager and DE to desktop environment.

kemsat OP ,

KDE & I’m not sure for window manager, is that Dolphin the file browser?

governorkeagan ,

A window manager would be similar to your Desktop Environment - better explanation.

Since you mentioned that you’re using KDE, there’s an option in system settings called “Autostart”. You can then add Steam to the list of applications (or terminal commands) that start automatically.

kemsat OP ,

I have Steam starting with the system, I just want it to start minimized or directly to the tray

WeLoveCastingSpellz , in Start Steam minimized

you can juat add the -silent flag to the autostart setting for steam

KrapKake , (edited ) in Start Steam minimized

If you have steam installed as a system app then copy the .desktop file from /usr/share/applications/steam.desktop to your /home/yourusername/.local/share/applications. Once you have the .desktop file in local, edit the desktop file and go down to the first Exec= line and and the -silent switch at the end.

NutWrench , in Linux user share on Steam breaks 2% thanks to Steam Deck
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

I think Proton is the smartest thing Valve ever did. Steam is going to get about 90% of the gamers moving from Windows to Linux.

A_Random_Idiot , in More Steam games??!! I fixed the getcwd() thing ^^;;

i have no idea who this is…are they fixing their own games, or like…pushing fixes to proton/wine, or something else?

entropicdrift ,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Asahi Lina is a VTuber who made the kernel-space driver for the M-series Mac GPUs. She’s currently working on making Steam run on Asahi Linux, the distro for M-series Macs.

A_Random_Idiot ,

neato burrito. I dont have a mac, so I’m not particularly invested, but I’m all for alternative OSes and fucking Apple.

robolemmy , in Games stuttering then wifi crashes on pop_os
@robolemmy@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, it sounds like it might be overheating. Have you checked temperatures when it happens?

Bad_Rats OP ,

Turned out to be an overheating issue. Tweaking the fans has everything running smoothly so far. Thanks everybody.

cerement , in Steve with GN Considering Linux
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

additionally, we can trust him to approach it seriously whereas LTT still treats Linux like an in-joke

Sentau , (edited )

LTT still treats Linux like an in-joke.

Well the only one who seemed to actually like Linux at LTT was Anthony(don’t know her new name) Emily. Once she went to the background after her gender transition, enthusiastic Linux coverage more or less disappeared

atmur ,

Linus mentioned that Emily (her new name) has been internally pushing for a Linux gaming revisit on a recent Wan Show, so hopefully something comes of that.

Also an upcoming tech upgrade video will be for someone who’s switching to Linux.

bighatchester ,

Hopefully the next Linux challenge goes well for them . From what I remember Linus somehow broke his fresh Linux install by just install steam lol . Can’t wait to see Elijah switch to Linux

A_Random_Idiot , (edited )

I dont remember the specific details, but it was a bug in that install version that… Mint Pop_OS! (Thanks Joo)? I think it was? was slow to fix until the video came out or something?

Anyway, long story short, He did ignore a warning, but what happened shouldnt have happened regardless, and it was totally something a novice could do, especially since, as a novice myself, most internet searchable help for linux issues boils down to “run this command, it’ll fix it” with no real broader explanation.

That doesnt mean he isnt an ignorant cunt in a thousand other ways though.

joojmachine ,

Long story short, there was a bug with apt that Pop!_OS didn’t patch before the release. They did so after the latest version at the time was released. Had he updated his system before trying to install Steam, it’d never happened, that’s the worst part.

A_Random_Idiot ,

Should have updated the install materials or just automatically force an update upon install. Competency should never be expected from the end user.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would agree. If you watch the video, you’ll see that Linux Mint’s onboarding process walked Luke through using the Update Manager. Pop!_OS didn’t. Also apparently Pop!_Shop doesn’t or didn’t perform an apt update upon launch for reasons beyond my understanding. Anyone familiar enough with Pop!_OS to know if that was or still is the case?

ozymandias117 ,

The funny part, to me, is that the command he ran was so dangerous that Pop_OS required you to type out the entire phrase

“Yes, do as I say!”

With correct punctuation, or it won’t continue

If it was just an “Okay” box or a “Y” to continue, I don’t think he’d have gotten as much flak for that one

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve done a whole NTSB breakdown on that incident before, but here’s what I hope is the short version:

He was using Pop!_OS. Pop!_OS’ desktop environment was at the time kind of a fork of Gnome. I think now it outright is a fork of Gnome.

It just so happened that a version of the Steam .deb package went out with a buggy set of prerequisite data such that if it encountered a “weird” desktop environment it would declare itself incompatible with this which would make APT uninstall the entire GUI stack, right on down to Xorg. It wouldn’t happen to distros using more mainstream desktops like Gnome or KDE or xfce, but it did effect weird things like Pop!_OS.

This bugged version was apparently the latest version published when the Pop!_OS install image Linus used was made, so that was the version in the apt cache on Linus’ Pop!_OS machine.

In the time between the creation of that install media and the filming of the episode, the bug had been reported and an updated version pushed to the repo.

At no point during the install-first boot process, or while launching the Pop!_Shop did Pop!_OS update the apt cache.

Linus tried to install Steam via the Pop!_Shop’s GUI. behind the scenes it saw the error about incompatibility with the desktop and threw a dialog box that said “Failed to install Steam.” The system was not harmed or altered in any way and continued working correctly.

Instead of googling “popos failed to install steam” to see if there’s a way to fix it, he instead threw a small bitch fit about how Linux doesn’t work and you have to use the terminal for everything. He googled for “how to install steam with the terminal” or similar, and found the command “sudo apt install steam.” Most guides online for installing things using APT tell you to run an update and probably an upgrade command first, I do not know if Linus found instructions that omitted that or if he skimmed too aggressively.

Running the command “sudo apt install steam” printed a lot of STDIO to the terminal including a large list of things it was preparing to uninstall, followed by a plaintext warning in bold text that read (paraphrasing) **WARNING! This operation is very likely to seriously damage your computer. You should not do this unless you REALLY know what you are doing. To continue, type “Yes do as I say.”

It is my belief that Windows trained Linus to ignore such warnings, because Windows constantly throws errors about “this may harm your computer” basically every time it asks for administrator privileges. Linux does not do this; Linux usually accepts a ‘y’ or even just hitting the enter key with no input to mean “yes proceed,” sometimes when it wants you to really stop and think it’ll make you type the whole word “yes.” Having to type that whole sentence feels almost like “update your last will and testament to continue.” I think a lot of users learned it would do that from Linus’ video.

He did so, the computer dutifully uninstalled the entire GUI stack and dropped him into a terminal.

ozymandias117 ,

I mentioned above, but it definitely tried to make absolutely sure by requiring the exact string

“Yes, do as I say!”

With punctuation and capitalization required.

They’ve even tried to add more protections after the video to make sure that’s what you meant to do

drathvedro ,

A think to note is that it was completely salvageable. I believe it’d be just a matter of running sudo apt-get install pop-desktop and he’d be back on track. Meanwhile, on windows, download a sound card driver from manufacturers site, click “install”, and your OS won’t ever boot again, not in safe mode, not in recovery from live usb, not anyhow, because it always tries to load all drivers, including broken ones for some reason.

cpw ,

I honestly hope they don’t do another dumb Linux challenge. Linus and Luke both have pre-prepared excuses why a conversion to Linux will fail, for them personally. Stuff like “we can’t run Photoshop” level shit. Dumb “no shit Sherlock” type nonsense.

That means they won’t actually try, they’ll just “do it for the content” and give up again after a month or whatever. The videos will be well done but will ultimately conclude that “Linux still isn’t ready for us” and they’ll leave a bitter taste in any real Linux user’s mouth, because their excuses will be pathetic and the efforts put in will be demonstrably minimal.

monkeyman512 ,

The part you are missing is that they are making content that aligns with the majority of their audience. Most people will put in a similar level of effort. Most people don’t care, they just want it to work with the least effort possible.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve said this several times before.

There were a couple episodes where they had iJustine on as a guest. I think they built a server for her? Anyway one episode they did was they set up a Mac and a Windows PC next to each other, and had Justine use Windows and Linus use MacOS for a series of routine computer tasks. Both found stumbling blocks. Both of them, when hearing what the task is, said to the other “Oh you’re going to struggle with that.” I remember specifically Justine saying that of taking a screenshot on MacOS because apparently the key combination isn’t intuitive, it’s something like Cmd+6 or something?

Why didn’t WIndows and MacOS both get declared unfit for use by normies the way Linux did? They did a similar “here are some tasks to complete” challenge which wasn’t well thought out; how would most people “sign a PDF?” Why would “enjoy HDR content” be on there other than “lol it doesn’t support this.”

I also recall another older episode where (do we retroactively call her Emily for appearances in older videos?) walked James through the process of installing and running games in Linux. Which I think would be a more valuable series of videos than “some guys who fully intend to go back to windows at the end of a month try to slog through Linux unaided I guess.” Do a 30-day Learning Linux challenge, where some newbies who genuinely have a goal of switching platforms do so under the guidance of a veteran user.

I’ll even put my keyboard where my mouth is. I’ve used Linux full time for 10 years now for work and play, I do not currently own any working Windows systems. I’ll volunteer to be that mentor character on camera.

toynbee ,

IIRC, it’s cmd+shift+a number between one and four depending on what kind of screenshot you want to take (full screen, window, etc.). Definitely not intuitive.

I only have any idea because I’m required to use a Mac at work. Just went and tested; cmd+shift+4 starts a “select an area to screenshot” process.

strongarm ,

I love the Mac shortcuts for screen capture, I’ve even added them to my Linux Gnome desktop shortcuts to do the same.

toynbee ,

Well, to each their own. Also, I can’t say whether this applies to you, but it seems likely that one might evolve a key shortcut preference from one’s early exposure. Mine was Windows and, eventually, Linux.

I like shortcuts involving the Print Screen button because the label is clear to me and because I can take a screenshot with a maximum of two buttons rather than three, none of which clearly express “screenshot” to me.

Regardless of the reasoning, I doubt we’ll come to an accord, but I respect your preference.

strongarm ,

I also stayed with windows, then went to Mac before Linux.

However the simple reason I chose these shortcuts is because I have a 60% tenkeyless keyboard, so there is no Print screen button! 😁

toynbee ,

That makes sense. I’ve had various percentage keyboards, but never not had a print screen button.

Nibodhika ,

I really miss Emily, hope she comes back soon, but I understand her wanting to be on her own for a while, but honestly her videos were the best ones always.

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Emily has always been a delight in everything she’s done.

But even as she’s appeared in videos a lot less, It’s nice to know she’s still advocating for FOSS at LTT. Hopefully that will again result in more coverage of the kind of stuff she used to host before her transition.

frezik ,

Jake prefers Linux, too. He rolls his eyes all the time at Linus’ insistence on running Windows servers, and he’s the guy that maintains a lot of that side of the business.

Fuzzypyro ,

Luke was also advocating for Linux. He said that it was much better in terms of productivity.

frezik ,

GN takes things more seriously than LTT in general. The better, more technical LTT videos are on par with GN’s baseline.

CarlosCheddar , in Linux user share on Steam breaks 2% thanks to Steam Deck

I moved my Desktop to Linux when the Steam Deck was announced. Before that I had no idea that Linux was able to play almost any game using Proton.

So I think the Steam Deck has also boosted Desktop numbers.

Killer57 ,

I found that there is a branch called Bazzite that is essentially Steam OS for desktop, I’ve been using it for a few months now with four monitors and no major hiccups.

modifier , in Linux user share on Steam breaks 2% thanks to Steam Deck

Only dimly related, but since I’m in this 2%, I can’t help reflecting they in the 11 months since joining Lemmy, I have:

  • Canceled all of my streaming subscriptions
  • Built a massive Plex Server
  • Rekindled my love of Unix building said server
  • Began pirating movies, TV, music, and software like a fucking syphilitic pegleg
  • Began experiencing Star Trek TNG for the first time, pirated, on my Plex Server, running Linux
  • Bought a steam deck and began experimenting with Arch

Don’t ever let anyone tell you your feed doesn’t influence you, no matter how media literate you are.

kaiserZak ,

You are truly reborn my child 🥹 welcome to our family 🫡 love you, being here :* <3

JayObey711 ,

You forgot mentioning the chokers and thigh highs you have bought since then.

modifier ,

I omitted to mention that the number of thigh highs in my wardrobe have remained largely unchanged, so far anyway, and that I managed to avoid letting jeans-mania spill over into whatever passes for my real life.

Bronzie ,

Fuuuuuuuck, you made have the same realization.

  • Ditched W10 for Mint
  • Bought a NAS and set up all .arrs and cancelled all my subscriptions (- Spotify)
  • Home media server with Jellyfin
  • Shared said server with friends and family via Tailscale
  • Set up my very first server on a low end device running headless Debian, all from scratch with docker and Portainer. Currently running a Valheim server

All this with 0 previous Linux experience. Reddit beeing cunts made me learn a lot of cool new things these part 12 months!

cRazi_man ,

For me:

  • OpenSUSE Tumbleweed PC
  • Synology NAS
  • Steam Deck
  • Plex shared with the family
  • Cancelled Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime.
  • Got a VPN docker container on the NAS with qBt

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bricklove ,

I’m on a similar journey and have started self-hosting as many services as I can. I’ve got Jellyfin (open source Plex alternative), a WebDAV server to replace google drive, a Valheim server, and a git server to host the code. I’m doing this with kubernetes on an old mini PC I picked up for 50 bucks on eBay. I plan to put more mini PCs in my friends’ and family’s homes to build a cloud for us with backups of everything stored in multiple locations. It’d be cool to pass it down to the next generation and have our family memories preserved in a medium we own completely.

andrew ,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

Arch. Not even once.

For reals though, it’s my favorite distro because it taught me a bunch and also, once I understood that bit, it really is the only one that just worked on all my machines at the time, 15 years ago.

savvywolf , in Linux user share on Steam breaks 2% thanks to Steam Deck
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

Be interesting to see the numbers next month because of the whole Recall thing that people seem to have gotten really mad about.

I don’t want to get my hopes up, but I’ve seen a lot of people saying they switched to Linux. But that could just be the circles I’m in though.

djsaskdja ,

I’ve used Linux exclusively for years. Can’t you just turn Recall off? Or better yet, use Windows 10? It’s still supported for more than a year from now. Could probably get away with it for like 2 years if security isn’t critical for your system.

savvywolf ,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

Sure you can turn it off, and realistically this isn’t that bad an antifeature. But Microsoft has been making a lot of unpopular decisions (Randomly restarting, Edge shilling, the tpm requirement, general privacy violations, ads in the start menu), and this is by far the worst reaction I’ve seen from Windows users I follow.

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