It’s nice to see Linux is doing well on Steam. It’s great that Steam Deck/OS is so successful. 👍
Also kudos to Arch, I must admit I’m surprised to see Arch as the most popular among other distros.
Steam Deck runs on Arch so it’s no surprise it’s up so high.
Edit: it doesn’t count as Arch. The Steam Survey results page has a bug where it doesn’t show SteamOS as top listing for Linux OS when combined Windows, Mac and Linux view is selected.
What’s interesting is Arch surpassed Ubuntu prior to the Steam Deck release. They were neck and neck for a bit after that, then the Steam Deck helped it push past.
A lot of Linux enthusiasts use Arch, but it’s far from the most popular among regular Linux users. So we’re seeing early adopters since Arch users are probably more likely to tinker to get things working than Ubuntu users.
So if we start seeing Ubuntu take over Arch, that means we’re seeing Linux gaming reach the mainstream.
I would also like to see a survey about Linux adoption after using the Deck.
That’s what I recommend, and I’d expect Mint to eventually be #2 or #3 once it hits mainstream.
I use something else though (openSUSE Tumbleweed), but I think Mint has way better community support without a lot of the nonsense that Ubuntu has. Mint Debian is my recommendation 9/10 times.
That’s what I recommend, and I’d expect Mint to eventually be #2 or #3 once it hits mainstream.
No snark intended, but what do you mean by “hits mainstream?” It’s been around for a long time, and it still hasn’t surpassed Ubuntu, as far as I am aware. I genuinely don’t understand what you mean.
I agree that it’s generally user friendly, but many distros like Elementary and Manjaro are trying to become more user friendly, too. Couple that with the gaming community likely being the first larger group of adopters, and they’ll be looking for gaming-oriented distros like Bazzite, Pop, Chimera, and Garuda.
Linux gaming is still an “early adopter” thing. Many popular games don’t work, so the people who are willing to give those up care more about running Linux than playing those games, which means tinkerers and stubborn people.
The more Linux is compatible day 1 for popular games, the more attractive Linux gaming will be. At a certain point, mainstream users will move to Linux and they’ll probably use Ubuntu and Mint more than other distros.
But that’s not where we are. Ubuntu is probably the most popular distro for regular users, and those users seem to not play games much on Linux. That means they’re either dual booting Windows, or just not playing games.
they’ll be looking for gaming-oriented distros like Bazzite, Pop, Chimera, and Garuda
Maybe, but none of those are showing up on top of lists.
I think most mainstream users will use Ubuntu because that’s what they already associate with Linux. People are aware of it by word of mouth, so it seems “safer” than using a gaming-specific distro. They’ll likely naïvely think that gaming-specific distros are “gaming only” and want something “general purpose” if they’re going to bail on Windows.
But these new users aren’t going to be using Arch most likely, so seeing that at the top tells me that Linux gaming is at the “early adopter” phase.
That being said, I’ve been a Linux gamer since before Steam came to Linux and I remember signing up for an account back in 2013 or whatever when they did come (I think I was on Arch at the time, go figure). Before that point, I mostly played Factorio, Minecraft, and a handful of games I got from Humble Bundle back when they were new and indie-focused (Humble games mostly worked on Linux back then).
Anyway, that’s my 2¢. I’m on openSUSE now, so I’m not really contributing to any of the top distro stats.
Fedora recently hit top three for most installed gaming distros, and that’s likely because of Bazzite (which just a Fedora Atomics Spin).
But I appreciate your explanation, and I think it’s well thought. Only time will really tell what happens, but having the Steam Deck out there only helps adoption in the long term.
Oh absolutely. People can easily see what’s officially supported on Linux and try games on their Steam Deck before committing to a desktop install.
I have a Steam Deck and three of my coworkers either have one or want one, and only one of them is interested in Linux itself. Every time they complain about something on Windows, I casually ask if Steam Deck does that. :)
That’s interesting. When you look at the steam survey results under OS Version, with Windows Mac and Linux combined it shows under Linux that Arch is in first followed by Ubuntu 22, but when you switch the view to Linux only, the OS Version shows SteamOS Holo in first, followed by Arch, then Flatpack runtime and Ubuntu. So yes you’re right.https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/af8117a8-99e9-4948-810b-9c0cf5c35419.webpThis shows why I thought SteamOS counted as Arch. My bad.
I only briefly dabbled with Arch >10 years ago. But it has always been evident that it is an incredibly powerful distro. The fact that its wiki is so extensive is a testament to how much people are using it. The problem it has always had is that most companies tend to support other ones (Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat/Fedora, Alpine), so it never really had any corporate love. With Valve’s backing, we can see just how widespread Arch could be if it had more money behind it.
Not that this is necessarily a good thing of course. Look at how money has corrupted Ubuntu and Red Hat. All I want to point out is that it can do anything that the most well-supported distros try to do. And the fact that it has done so without any corporate support is a true testament to how powerful it is.
I still haven’t tried docking my deck, I’ve stuck mostly to vanilla. I mostly just plug my deck in and go to town, unplugging and re-plugging as needed to change positions. I mostly use my deck in bed, but docking might get me to be a bit more adventurous.
I’ll have to try docking, I hear it’s a pretty good experience.
I wonder if there are game devs out there willing to work on this in their free time. What I find good about this dude is that it’s for fun and he has 8+ years of actual software development experience. It’s not somebody completely removed from software development who just doesn’t like Rito.
Let’s see how far this gets! If it becomes big, it would be the first successful MOBA written in Godot!
There are quality of life changes, mainly in the building, but overall it’s still the same game. Graphically though, it’s far superior, especially in terms of lighting.
I got the original really cheap so I didn’t feel too bad paying for a new version. What does piss me off though is that while they promised “all existing DLC maps” from the original will be free, they’re already releasing new paid DLC including dinos that are only available if you pay, in a still-early-access game before all the existing maps are released.
So while I enjoy the game, I can’t recommend it out of principle, especially to anyone who already owns Survival Evolved.
they’re already releasing new paid DLC including dinos that are only available if you pay, in a still-early-access game before all the existing maps are released.
Yeah, I get the feeling they might be underestimating the amount of work required. Especially if they want to use something like GDScript. Sure, it’s just a wee hobby project but I hope that people on Reddit and Lemmy don’t harass them about not doing things fast or well enough… Don’t really see it going anywhere beyond being a learning experience for the author.
I’m not a game dev, I’m a web dev. I’ve never made anything more complicated game-wise than 2d fishing animation games
Well… At least the dev is honest about it being just for fun… I’ll give it 2 months before it’s a dead project. There is literally no way someone that has zero gamedev experience can remake a multi-million dollar game.
There are a lot of open-source game projects that have started over the years. Some have turned into fully-completed games, but they are very few. And those generally are not asset-heavy, which I suspect a League of Legends-style game will be.
This could make it, but I wouldn’t be placing money on it.
I think if I were gonna try and do that, I’d aim for making the game playable with what amounts to just about placeholder assets.
The engine side is the easier part. You’ve got a number of people who have done engine reimplementations of a number of commercial games that can play the original game using the original game’s assets. But getting a game with original assets is hard.
Perhaps if you LoL players want to see it succeed you could come together and create a fund to pay an actual professional to make the assets for the game.
I wouldn’t say in the works, this is one person who’s a web developer posting on Reddit about an idea. In the works usually tells me they’re already working on the project, not trying to find people to help start it. GL to them I guess.
Sounds like reddit. They started banning blocks of VPN IPs after they locked down their API (presumably to prevent screen scraping). If you really want to visit, proton stealth protocol is able to get through sometimes, and old.reddit seems to get through all of the time.
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