Have you seen protondb? A pretty impressive number of games just work. Really we are at the point now where games that don’t run are more the exception, and usually it is due to Anti-cheat incompatibility or some very specific issue.
what does “few” mean in this context? With proton the number of games (developed for Windows) now simply work. And without a bloated OS full of spyware they seem to run actually faster.
However, seeing as everyone has chosen to give me a tuneup with so many downvotes, I’m switching my Linux dual boot from Debian to Manjaro, a supposedly more game-friendly distro. So far Steam has installed just fine, but now I need to rearrange some partitions to make space to try out a few non-steam games and see if they work (stuff from EA/Origin and Epic).
Could you perhaps give us some examples of these games that don’t work? There aren’t really that many of these days, thanks to valve’s work on proton and thanks to the steam deck making developers want to at least not actively break their games the majority work out of the box. Even non-steam games and launchers
EA’s Battlefield franchise right off the top of my head. Tons of effort to get it to start, when it finally did start the sound was a wreck, couldn’t get the resolution set right and the FPS was probably 12-20.
I think I tried Elite: Dangerous, and that wouldn’t start at all.
Lutris appears to have installers available for both of those games. And I know some people that play Elite dangerous on Linux I asked them and they said they didn’t have any issues with it. Was that perhaps very close to its initial release or something? It could just be better now
I tried out all of this a couple times, most recently few years ago before COVID. While I realize nobody here on a pro-Linux sub wants to hear it, Linux is still a minefield of different distros and versions, many of which don’t work quite the same in various subtle ways that can be infuriating to someone trying to grab something off a repository that should work, but doesn’t for the aforementioned reasons. Whereas people here scoff at the premise that this is a flaw, for the vast majority of people it’s the very reason Linux isn’t mainstream outside the IT world. Yeah, unpopular opinion, but it’s from someone who’s been trying to love Linux for 25 years and gets put off by all the little issues.
i won’t argue with you there. i fucking hate people who push mint,Ubuntu, popos, or anything based on apt. it’s literally not designed to be up to date and rolling. People try to band-aid it on with repos but it just leads to systems eating themselves.
valve went with arch Linux on the steamdeck for a reason, it’s designed, from its core, to be rolling. which gaming needs. you need the latest drivers, libs, wine, etc. and there are easy to go arch installers. my favorite is EndeavorOS. sadly you get a similar problem in reverse with shit like manjaro. where they take a perfectly working rolling system and attempt to “stabilize” it with custom repos that arbitrarily hold packages back. and it tends to break a lot.
it’s the double edged sword of open source. i can do what i want, but so can everyone else. and the voice of the stupid is almost never a minority
Mines just a bit worse by that measure, and on the clickplay measure was about 20% tier 1, 20% tier 2, about 15% tier 3, and about 8% each tiers 4 and 5.
I feel like click play is a better measure for average users you’re trying to convert since it’s “how well does it work if I just try to start it” as opposed to “how well can it be made to work if I tinker with it enough”.
Everyone called me mad when I told them that I get more FPS in linux through wine/proton than on windows native with my AMD card, look who’s laughing now
I guess mileage might differ. I installed Tumbleweed and then the Nvidia drivers following the wiki instructions. Everything is going great. Running a 3060 with Wayland+Plasma on a 360Hz screen and gaming through Steam. I love Tumbleweed.
An alternative if just for benchmarking is EndeavourOS, you can choose proprietary Nvidia drivers as a boot option in the installer and then I believe it'll be installed with them without further ado. Downside is if you use it long term you have to read Arch News before updates to spot breaking/incompatible changes and be knowledagable of things like pacnew/pacsave files, etc.
Nah, I have same issues. My hardware is 2 years old. I use manjaro/Ubuntu LTS and Non-LTS/PopOS/LinuxMint/Zorin/LMDE/Nobara and endeavour OS and it’s freezing quite often and I have to go back to Windows atm. I think Nvidia is main culprit here. If I move to Full AMD. I might try Linux again
Boot from older kernel in the boot menu and check if it works
Run sudo snapper rollback
Reboot
Boom, saved you a reinstall.
Alternatively, you can set up zypper to keep old NVIDIA packages, then just login to a CLI and install the older driver package, then reboot. I did that a few times as well, but the snapper rollback was easier.
X11 is ALSO buggy
I didn’t have any of those issues for the 3-ish years I was on Tumbleweed and NVIDIA. I’m now still on Tumbleweed, but have switched to AMD for proper Wayland support
Perhaps. It’s been years since I messed with that. In fact, my last laptop I opted for an AMD APU and no GPU so I wouldn’t need to deal with graphics switching.
That’s only if you care about the GeForce Experience software, I don’t even have it installed so it doesn’t bug me about updates. You can download and install drivers any time without signing in to an account.
It didn’t work for me either. I contacted their support and they asked for a picture of the serial number on the box, a copy of the invoice and the code. They got it verified a few hours later.
Any scheduler optimisation ? Cryotool ? Feral Gamemode ? Linux has its own bunch of optimisation tools.
But I’d still doubt a 100% difference, unless you played a game with known problems under Proton. For my own experience after almost a year playing on Linux I gained between 5% and 20%, depending on the game.
That’s the other issue. “Depending on the game” 60% of all titles doesnt work on Linux and the rest 40% works badly. There is about a handful of games that could perform better than windows but with windows everything works. I am not trying to defend windows, fuck Microsoft. I just want you guys to stop with this delusion that linux is superior. In most ways it is but in the way thag counts the most, windows is still superior.
Your doubts re completely unfounded. Linux was set up in 5 mins, I just installed OpenSUSE, installed Steam and ran the games, since the AMD/Intel drivers are included in the kernel.
On Windows I had to set up for like 45 mins until the installation and all the updates and drivers were done.
Windows is closed source so it has to do extra stuff to hide it’s internal behavior. Linux isn’t. This allows better drivers in Linux. This means in some cases emulating windows games on Linux is literally faster. You don’t have to emulate the entire system, only the parts you need to run the game on your computer.
Honestly anything with a non LTS release schedule will be fine. So long as you keep a relatively recent kernel and GPU drivers it pretty much doesn't matter. You can go for a rolling release like Arch or OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or a staged release like Fedora. Even Ubuntu or it's derivatives are fine so long as you stick to the yearly versions and don't have a particularly bleeding-edge hardware.
My only advice is stick to the popular stuff. This applies to both distros and desktop environments. Much easier to troubleshoot things and find help and they have more people using them, which usually means the experience is more polished and bugs get fixed faster.
Not sure what the point is here, 2 games that are very amd and vulcan optimized that work grate on amd Linux. Yeah we know amd drivers on Linux are grate nvidia are shit!
I had that issue too, apparently the vendor gave me a code for the wrong piece of hardware, either way amd support helped me get the correct code that verified properly.
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