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green_square ,

The price of playing skyrim for every minute of my life until I die

With game pass: Over $9000.00

Just buying the game: $59.99

cooopsspace ,

59,99 on every platform the game gets released on because Todd won’t stop

Gabu , (edited )

If you bought Skyrim on Steam before 2016, you got all PC versions for free up to now.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

If Todd was to be asked about any of this you’d be paying for looking at their promo stuff. Greedy cuck. That’s why they pushed so hard for FO76 to be always online, even though it’s completely pointless.

chiliedogg ,

Gamepass is a great deal if it has 4 or more games a year come out that you want to play, and that’s if you pay full price instead of buying cards, etc.

SwiggitySwole ,

What if I play all my games on a 3 year delay and buy all 4 games for $15 with DLC included?

bassomitron ,

I feel like that’s stretching reality unless you’re getting localized pricing for lower income countries. I’ve never seen an AAA game drop below $10 in just 3 years, especially if it’s an AAA game that also got DLC. On average it’s usually just 40-50% off after that kind of duration, mayyyybe 60% off. Anything more than that is usually because the game sucked ass or it’s really old.

JokeDeity ,

Bro at at this point wait one year and get it free on Epic.

lambsum ,

Well then that’s a different situation to the one they described.

EncryptKeeper ,

I keep hearing how great Gamepass is but I really fail to see how unless you just began gaming like one year ago. Every once in awhile I look to see what’s on there and it’s just old games I’ve played before.

ryathal ,

Gamepass is great for extended trials, especially indie games with middling to good ratings. Other than that, it’s nice to play the back catalog of MS games if you missed them. At least for PC, that’s what I got out of it.

red ,

I really don’t get much use out of reviews and trailers. The only way for me to know if I like a game is to try it. I test tons of Gamepass games and finish half a dozen a year, give or take.

chiliedogg ,

Just in the last month it’s had Sea of Stars, Starfield, Lies of P, and Payday 3 release.

Lots of others too, of course. But those are the 4 that caught my attention.

TheGrandNagus ,

Until MS ramps up the prices because the current pricing is unsustainable

red ,

They decide what they do offer to publishers for game pass rights. If they increase the fee, it’s because they started to pay more for whatever offered to us.

TheGrandNagus ,

HAHAHAHAHA sure mate

If ms increases prices it won’t be for profit, it’ll be to be kind to publishers lmao

red ,

They aren’t doing it to be kind to anyone, it’s a business after all

TheGrandNagus ,

Exactly. They’ll ramp up the pricing in order to make a profit. Just like I said.

SpaceNoodle ,

I paid $10

mojo ,

Me but with Factorio and even more hours

cooopsspace ,

2000 hours gang, where y’all at?

ignotum ,

2000 hours? Then you’re almost ready to launch your first rocket? 😄

cooopsspace ,

Just finished green science

Gabu ,

The price per minute I’ve paid for playing Skyrim + Skyrim SE + Skyrim Anniversary Edition, all DLCs included: Less than 0.01 USD/minute

RedTie13 ,

I finally dropped Spotify, I still maintain a YouTube Premium subscription, only because I’m grandfathered into their old Google Music plan. I’m finally looking to setup my own Nextcloud and Jellyfin server on a NAS because Google cloud storage starts to get pricey when HDD are so cheap. I do still pay Means TV because if I’m still paying for a streaming service, at least it’s a co-op.

sharkaccident ,

You ios or Android user?

DJDarren ,

I have YT Premium because I watch 95% of my YouTube through Apple TV, which doesn’t support ad blockers. I discovered that I can “visit” Argentina and sub to YT Premium for about £3 a month. I’m happy enough with that.

Wogi ,

Brothers, sisters, others, it’s time we return to the old ways. To the high seas. We steal from those who own, but do not pay to own, the content they distribute. We will share this media amongst ourselves until they learn that we were willing to pay with dollars, but not with time.

MrSilkworm ,
@MrSilkworm@lemmy.world avatar

we shall pirate on the beaches, we shall pirate on the landing grounds, we shall pirate in the fields and in the streets, we shall pirate in the hills; we shall never surrender

Zealousideal_Fox900 ,

We shall pirate in the alleys, in the fields, in the chats and we shall never surrender to the greedy hands of Sony, Nintendo and alike

CurlyMoustache ,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

I miss good old fashioned LAN parties of the 90s and early 00s

DJDarren ,

YAAR!

ShittyRedditWasBetter ,

God forbid you pay for services.

librechad ,

I just got charged $165 a couple days ago from two yearly subscriptions I totally forgot I had. We need a better solution. The banks should just implement the usage of Virtual Cards like Privacy.com does. It’d be so much more convent for people to cancel subscriptions, if they’re allowed to have multiple different virtual cards that they can easily toggle on or off.

Why don’t the banks do this?

Fk_taxes_23 ,

The banks are in on it.

Mr_Blott ,

We need a better solution

Sorry to sound harsh, but…self control?

I have a subscription for a VPN. I’ve been sitting here for a couple of minutes trying to think of others. I suppose my internet etc is a subscription

I can’t think of anything else

EddoWagt ,

I just have a subscription for music and cloud storage, that’s it. I don’t understand how some people have all of the subscriptions

joenforcer ,

Why don’t the banks do this?

They get a cut of every transaction, and the more debt you accrue, the more money the bank makes if you carry a balance. They are financially disincentivized from protecting you from your spending.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

No one wants this other than user. Banks, just like everyone else, are in a business of making your wallet lighter.

CosmoNova ,

Yep. Once they got you signed up for a bank account, the last thing they want is you thinking about money.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

It seems people think otherwise according to down-votes. Not that I care about those but am finding it incredibly humorous there are people who think bank is your friend. Lol.

IdleSheep ,
@IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Why don’t the banks do this?

Both of my banks allow unlimited virtual card creation. I think it just depends on where you live.

Jako301 ,

Most subscriptions can be canceled with a few clicks, usually right after buying it without loosing the paid for time. If you cant manage your subscriptions, that sounds like a problem you should address yourself instead.

Your suggested solution of simply turning off the credit card the subscription is linked to doesn’t cancel said subscription, it just results in a breach of contract from your side. That only works cause most companies can’t be asked to deal with you, otherwise the subscriptions would continue and the incurring cost would sooner or later be sent to a collecting agency, with additional charges for late payments.

drathvedro , (edited )

You are right. The fact that cashless transactions are built on a pull model, where a shop/service is charging you instead of you being the one who sends the money, is absolutely fucking insane. I recently lost a few hundred bucks just because the shop used the wrong currency to charge me, leading to a double conversion at the absolutely shittiest rates, and by the time I got to someone in charge, the transaction was already cleared and set in stone. With a sane system this never would’ve happened.

In my home country they actually recently started to adopt such a model. Instead of you giving the card# to everyone, they instead show a QR code with all the necessary payment details: BIC, SWIFT, IBAN, the rest of scary numbers, order number and the invoice. You just open the bank app on your phone, point it at the code, review the sum and any possible fees, press confirm, and the moment the transaction is cleared the page just reloads automatically with order confirmed. I believe there’s also a special URL schema for when you don’t have a PC, but I haven’t tried it yet so can’t tell for sure. With this approach, subscriptions are much easier to manage, because it’s the bank’s job to send the money, so they can list all recurring payments on a special page where you could just cancel one. Also helps with scummy services that stop providing service the moment the subscription is canceled - they won’t even know you did until the the next day the payment is due.

EDIT: There is indeed a custom URL schema, and lots of cool stuff like offline payments without plastic. But some of it is still clunky, including subscriptions, which only a few banks support and most services are opting to use their own billing systems for now.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Good thing from the current situation is it being the end of times for these services. Constant need for income increase to appease share holders means infinite growth, which is impossible. But individual doesn’t see that, they just want more. So progress of any software towards service model is pretty straight forward.

First they start splitting software into smaller versions and selling both for slightly higher price combined than when they were single piece. Then they start releasing more frequent versions but that has limited impact. So they start introducing forward incompatibilities. Only new software will support both old and new versions of the document, forcing buyers to buy latest. When that reaches its optimal maximum they decide to switch to yearly subscription and force everyone to use those by same ways as they forced them to use newer versions.

Subscription based model is limited. It has no progression other than increase in price and it’s only a matter of testing how much people are willing to pay. Sometimes even go above reasonable price but then go with “exclusive” content as if to justify higher price. This of course works for a while, but exclusive content costs money and is harder to produce consistently at high quality…

And after that, there’s no progression. It’s a battle royale among service provides but they can’t back out because of share holders and can’t revert to other business models. So some of them will stretch themselves thin and burst others will keep on living from that vapor until a new contender comes.

Lt_Cdr_Data ,

Yep, absolutely. My family still has spotify and netflix subscriptions, but i already canceled prime before the previous price hike. I’d have already canceled netflix if it was my decision and the only service i still see value in is spotify.

hamsammy ,

Unfortunately, I believe that feeling will change if you look into how Spotify actually harms the artists by forcing them to use their product even though they make slim to none profit. The more you know.

Lt_Cdr_Data ,

Not really. Fixing systemic problems is not up to the individual. I’m paying for music, which i already only due to the convenience.

alexhyatt64 ,
@alexhyatt64@lemmy.world avatar

eh… nintendo online isn’t as shitty as the others

Zanz ,

Nintendo online is even more shitty than the others. We still have zero games with dedicated servers splatoon smash none of them have dedicated servers which is the whole point in why they needed to charge a fee. You might like having the old games on the emulator for the monthly fee and that would be fine but there’s no reason to charge for matchmaking. Matchmaking and leaderboard should be free it might cost like 5 to 10 cents per year per user and they make way more than that with the 30 to 50% licensing fee for each game. To make the Nintendo one even worse third parties still have to pay for online services even though Nintendo also charges the customer. So if you buy a game that wants to use matchmaking or leaderboards they have to pay Nintendo additional fees for you to use them even though the customer you’re all so paying the fee for the same service

Crass_Spektakel ,
@Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

Who buys his kids products from Apple or Nintendo is most likely also torturing cute cats in his basement. And enjoys it.

SuzyQ ,

It’s the only one we pay for. ~$35USD/year for the family plan is worth it to us.

ColdWater ,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

I rather flush my money in the toilet than buy Nintendicks products

Zealousideal_Fox900 ,

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Zaki5549 ,

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zbyte64 ,
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It’s what capital wishes it could be: an indispensable person

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finestnothing ,

The only subscription service that I pay for is tidal for music (pays artists more than Spotify, same cost) and that’s only because maintaining a local library of music is too much of a pain for me right now. I may slowly build a local music library of only music I like, but I love listening to new artists so the $10 per month is worth the convenience.

YouTube? Ublock origin
Movie/tv streaming? Self hosted media library, plus some random services that are provided through my phone bill at no cost
File storage? Stored with my movies and TV on some hdds in raid
Amazon? Its not hard to find other retailers (or direct providers) with better prices and no subscription needed. Sometimes have to pay for shipping and it’s slower, but worth it

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Most music steaming services have garbage selection for dubstep anyways, so local library is the only way to go.

I pity that iOS users don’t have a good option for downloading music off YouTube though.

pseudonym ,

Can you make any suggestions? I think I’m into dubstep but I have a hard time finding new artists

2xsaiko ,
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I pity that iOS users don’t have a good option for downloading music off YouTube though.

This looks good, not sure if you can customize the linked iOS shortcut to download music though: projectlounge.pw/ytdl

Squizzy ,

I’ve tried Tidal a couple of times and it never felt like it was hitting the mark. The HiFi is a solid feature though.

ThirdWorldOrder ,

Yeah had the same feeling about tidal as well. Settled for Apple Music since they offer hifi and a nice interface. Spotify still has the best playlists but it’s getting feature bloat and the quality isn’t up to par

senoro ,

The best deal you will get is Apple Music. Especially if you are a classical music fan it is unbeatable. But another HiFi one that isn’t apple, is qobuz, although the song selection isn’t as wide as spotify or tidal or apple music. But they do pay artists a lot more and they have a webstore for purchasing FLAC and MP3s if that’s what you like.

finestnothing ,

I haven’t had any issues with it, the quality isn’t as good as self hosted flac files (unless you want to pay for the highest tier, I assume) but it’s at least as good as Spotify imo. Big selling point initially was Plex integration though

rororo ,

Passing along advice someone else posted on lemmy. If you have an android TV box, look at Stremio + Torrentio. Game changer!

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

If you have at least 6tb of storage space and good internet, the RedTopia torrent is more than enough to fill out a personal music library. That + SoulSeek for whatever new stuff shows up in my feed is everything I could ever need. Streamed anywhere onto my phone through Plex or PlexAmp

pirat ,

The RedTopia torrent?

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

The torrent itself is just torrent files for a 6tb music library split into 13 parts. Each torrent is about 500gb of lossless music

antipiratgruppen ,

If you can point me in a direction for those 13 torrent files, I’ll be very thankful!

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Posting from my phone right now but I believe this post links to the files. . If not, then simply searching for “Redtopia FLAC” should bring them up

leggettc18 ,

I do go for YouTube premium but that’s my primary source of entertainment nowadays and it does result in more money in my favorite content creators’ pockets (apparently more than ad-based revenue according to some sources at least). Plus YouTube music is included in that and is actually quite good.

sznio ,

I think that Spotify (or any other music streaming service) are the only ones still worth it. I don’t have to sign up for Spotify and Tidal and YouTube Music since any of them has whatever I need.

If that were to change, then I’ll be subscription-free.

Also, I like paying for Spotify since it’s the only European big-tech.

PraiseTheSoup ,

If that were to change, then I’ll be subscription-free.

At this point you will also be music-free since you do not own any of it, and that is what keeps people locked into these services even as the companies jerk them around.

pinkwerdo ,

Just pirate it.

nxdefiant ,

Or do both?

The real value in Spotify is the music discovery. That’s driven by data that very few are in a position to collect. Of all the big tech companies, Spotify is the only one I can think of that uses the data they collect from the users to give the users a uniquely better experience. Even YouTube is littered with promoted ads and videos. If you’re avoiding ads anyway, it’s a win win for the user to pay for Spotify premium.

Then you can do what you will with all the playlists you make.

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social avatar

I’m gradually getting to the point where I’ll drop Spotify. Shoving ads for podcasts in my face every time I launch the app was bad enough, but now their app has become such a bloated mess that it bugs out whenever my phone is switching between wifi and mobile data. I have more than 1k songs downloaded just so I don’t have to deal with that, and now I have to deal with it because it’s more important to them to show ads and promotions than it is for their app to do what it’s designed to do.

And before anyone says “tHoSe ArEn’T aDs,” showing me recommended artists and podcasts against my will is absolutely a form of advertising. Do you think they’re showing me new releases from Joe down the street? These are paid promotions, aka ads.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

Ads on podcasts are 100% at the discretion of the podcasts themselves. Not spotify.

schzztl ,

I switched to Tidal from Spotify, never looked back.

art ,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

I like to bootleg the major studios and patreon the indie artists that are giving their shit away for free.

clonedhuman ,
@clonedhuman@lemmy.world avatar

Yes! I’m right there with you.

Ganbat ,

Where do you stand on indie artists that are using Patreon to act like major studios, e.g. nothing is free and their work is limited release and deleted after the month?

Sharkwellington ,

I find it harder to be upset about what an artist does with their work because they’re the sole creator and didn’t exploit anyone to make it. The limited release stuff doesn’t sound great but none of the artists I follow do that, I certainly wouldn’t support them if they did. If they’re planning to never release the art ever again then I think there’s a fair argument to be made for piracy, although if you’re just waiting for the month to turn over to look at it guilt free, well, I think you’re just trying to justify it to yourself.

Ganbat ,
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I’ve seen a few that delete their stuff after the month and never release it again. IIRC, at least one of them was making relatively huge cash per month and only ever released cropped previews publicly, so that one was definitely what I’d call predatory, but that is just the most extreme case I’ve seen. I hate that false scarcity works so well.

art ,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve never seen an indie artist on Patreon that delete shit or used any kind of DRM. At least no artist that I’ve been inspired to support.

I try to never steal from people, only corporations.

Ganbat ,

I’ve seen a few different methods. Scrubbed Patreon profiles, archives with passwords that change every month and aren’t redistributed, etc. I’ve run into several artists who do this.

m3t00 ,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

estimate shipping charges eh, prime about even still. not a video user usually. one of few subs actually worth it for me. cable cutting scrooge I am

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. I buy Prime for the shipping. Being able to watch Wheel of Time without downloading it is a nice benefit.

LaggySnake ,
@LaggySnake@lemmy.world avatar

Remember when you didn’t have to pay for a subscription to play console games online?

TheGrandNagus ,

It’s infuriating.

I mainly play on PC where thankfully I don’t have to worry about that.

But I also have a Nintendo switch, and get this shit… they don’t even let you back up your save games online. we’re talking about fucking kilobytes of data per game that they’re too stingy to provide.

You can’t even back up game saves to the microSD!

If your switch breaks, is stolen, or you just get a new one, you lose your game saves unless you pay for Nintendo online.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

They are not stingy, it’s all part of a plan to keep you locked in.

TheGrandNagus ,

Well yeah. The fact they don’t even allow you to back it up to your microSD is proof of that

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. If you could move across consoles, you would, especially when a competitor like SteamDeck comes along.

red ,

No I don’t. Gold was there pretty much from the get go. Without would be better, but what you asked I don’t recall existing.

ArcaneSlime ,

Playstation 2 and 3.

red ,

Only selected few games had that on PS2. Games were largely SP on top of that. It wasn’t default free, it was a fee except for few exceptions.

Never owned PS3 so no comment on that.

BUT, my original question is still applicable. The past you speak of wasn’t common and not something that’s agreed to be the “good old days” so to speak.

Not saying what you peddle wouldn’t be great, it would, but your statement simply isn’t accurate.

kamen ,

Arrr.

Spendrill ,

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LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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What’s a good service provider for this? Most ISPs don’t provide usenet access anymore, and I’ve heard the free service providers are wack.

Spendrill ,

Good depends on what you’re after but this post here names all the major players.

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