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FelixCress ,

Someone clearly doesn’t understand how much it used to cost to travel by plane 50 years ago.

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

No kidding

For the OP of this meme, you know you can still pay for food services on flights today, right?

jaybone ,

Yeah but it sucks.

EleventhHour ,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Ehh…

The bottom line

Proportionally (inflation considered), flights are much cheaper now than they were 50 years ago. Consequently, flying is a more accessible mode of transport for many and has resulted in the soaring popularity of air travel, which began after deregulation. However, despite the cost drop, the base cost of flying has increased as airlines operate small profit margins and seek to remain competitive.

Wogi ,

Also this image is bullshit

Tray tables are about half that size now.

morrowind ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Not on longer flights. It doesn’t benefit airlines much to make smaller tray tables

deranger ,

Save on weight means save on gas. Multiply that by thousands of flights and it adds up. United printed their in flight magazines on lighter paper and saved hundreds of thousands of dollars, just by using thinner paper.

They only eliminated 5kg per 737, but that added up to $290k savings.

If anything I think it’d be even more effective on longer flights as those jets spend more time in cruise vs short haul airliners.

By using lighter paper to print their in-flight magazine, Hemisphere, United Airlines saves up to 170,000 gallons of fuel, which cuts about $290,000 in annual fuel costs.

One magazine is now one 29 g lighter and weights 195 g which will make a usual 737 plane that carries 179 passengers 5 kg lighter on average.

kiwi.com/…/united-prints-lighter-magazine-saves-1…

morrowind ,
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United makes 50B in revenue a year. I’m guessing that stunt gave them more value in marketing than actual savings.

MotoAsh ,

You clearly do not understand basic math nor how rampant greed in capitalism works. Sad.

If it saves them money, they WILL do it. (or even appears to save money)

Or do you think Scrooge types aren’t literally known for penny-pinching when they’re already rich and wouldn’t even notice the pennies going missing?

slaacaa ,

Good example, aviation is probably the most penny-fucking business in the planet, it’s a life and death fight between the companies, trying to keep costs low.

Wogi ,

I suppose I don’t take many long flights and I don’t recall how much space I had on the last long flight I had.

Typically on my domestic flights I have a tray table that won’t fit my switch if I want to stand it up.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a shit post

jaybone ,

But back then the price was regulated so they had to compete on service.

That might have been more that 50 years now.

Clinicallydepressedpoochie , (edited )

We are too reliant on air travel as it is. With the advent of the internet we should reduce air travel down to permitted leisure/visiting family and migration. Businesses should be able to video confernced most transactions. The situations where you absolutely need on site representation can be reduced drastically.

That is, if you took climate change seriously.

Xanis ,

HA. So look, I do agree. Problem is businesses don’t care, even if we do. If you figure out a way to stop management across way too many professions from holding hour long meetings to talk about some data point that has so significance to what is actually happening, and those “leaders” who call meetings early to get the team together, when the whole damn thing could be in an email…yeah man, when you solve that, I’ll work with you to solve the rest.

Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,

Ok, but like I’m not going to solve it. It’s not also going to be solved today. I’m just saying you want to gripe about your shitty airplane experience like we need to make it a luxury resort when really we need to stop pumping carbon into the atmosphere.

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    Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,

    Lol. “The environment can suck my big fat cock. I need to go to Jamaica, NOW!”

    Thanks for the laugh.

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    Clinicallydepressedpoochie , (edited )

    I do have a selfish reason; and it’s not because I don’t vacation. It’s I travel for work and that shit is exhausting. Anyway, you’re acting like you care so go and give this a read and leave me alone you dope.

    bbc.com/…/20200218-climate-change-how-to-cut-your…

    John_McMurray ,

    Fucking retard

    Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,

    Using the r word in 2024. Someone I really want to interact with.

    John_McMurray ,

    Oh you’re just so clever and progressive, so open minded your fucking brain fell out.

    piccolo ,

    Sir… i think thats your brain youre looking at.

    Allonzee ,

    Wait till accelerating climate change makes leisure flights a thing of the past in the next decade or so, along with tame weather and dependable agriculture.

    Our species is done, thanks to mindsets like yours.

    arstechnica.com/…/the-climate-is-changing-so-fast…

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    Zink ,

    a thing of the past for poor people, anyway.

    Allonzee ,

    We were too conservative in our estimates and other accelerating factors, like loss of the reflectivity of our arctic regions, have entered the game.

    This stuff doesn’t go away on any human perceived timeframe even if we stopped entirely. Our beloved capitalists will be able protect themselves for a couple more decades beyond us peasants, but their luxury bunkers with ironically self-sustaining agricultural sections will effectively become the tombs of the families most responsible.

    We were just smart enough to make technologies that helped us today and doomed us tomorrow, and still too bone dead stupid not to stop/drastically reduce using them upon discovering the consequences of their use.

    🔥🤷🔥

    HowManyNimons ,

    Cheaper innit.

    Tja ,

    Succinct

    qjkxbmwvz ,

    It can be extremely luxurious if you pay.

    I’d rather get to my destination with my wallet still in tact, but you do you.

    capt_wolf ,
    @capt_wolf@lemmy.world avatar

    So I remember taking a flight 10 years ago and they gave us pretzel pieces from snyders. I thought, great, we don’t even get whole pretzels…

    Next flight, they give us generic “trail mix” in clear bags. The kind the old folks down the street would give out at Halloween because it was “healthy.” but that contained approximately 2 pretzels the size of quarters, 3 peanuts, 3 generic m&ms, and 2 raisins…

    It gave me the impression that airlines are like schools, where the flight staff are the ones bringing in the snacks because the airline is too cheap to supply them.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fba7344c-350c-49c2-9c0f-f362160ef8b8.jpeg

    doingthestuff ,

    My teacher friends live in big houses and travel all over the world but you know whatever. I don’t.

    MotoAsh ,

    Liar.

    dditty ,

    Last time I flew coach I got a mini bag of sun chips and I kid you not it had 6 chips in it, and they were mini, not full sized.

    BigBenis ,

    Airliner ticket prices used to be regulated. So when all airlines had to charge the same price, they had to find other ways to be competitive in order to bring in customers. Deregulation in the 70s brought ticket costs down but that means ticket cost is now the primary point of competition between airlines and amenities now come at a steep premium.

    SupraMario ,

    Yep, you can have it one way or the other…cheap flights or super luxury and only the rich can fly. Planes are not cheap to operate and fuel isn’t free.

    hemko ,

    Eh, if you’re looking for the cheapest ticket available you can’t really expect luxury. Airlines are competing with prices, so all luxury goes off the window like a passenger on a Boeing flight

    chemicalprophet ,

    Because our children’s children will still be paying the tab for that unsustainable opulence. Fuck they’ll be paying the bill for recreational air travel with only pretzels.

    GBU_28 ,

    Stupid. The cost for flights then was more like beyond first class prices now.

    dtrain ,

    Stupid. The cost for flights then was more like beyond first class prices now.

    And a lot more smoky.

    tpihkal ,

    Don’t like the smoke? Then sit on the other side of the aisle in the non-smoking section.

    abcd ,

    This reminded me of that one flight as a kid, when I was seated in a row with two smokers. I literally couldn’t breathe. I’m happy that my kids don’t have to experience shit like this.

    rand_alpha19 ,

    Look at Mr. Moneybags over here, getting a drink that's not water.

    roboto ,

    You guys get snacks?

    With Ryanair I’m thankful that they have to offer a seat.

    doingthestuff ,

    There’s no snacks. Maybe a mini bag of pretzels if the flight is over 5 hrs long.

    roboto ,

    And you get that for free? That’s wild! I really mean that I’m happy Ryanair has to offer me a seat

    Agent641 ,

    Y’all know you’re allowed to bring your own food right?

    KoalaUnknown ,

    And the “free” pretzels are also sponsored with an ad on the packaging.

    netvor ,
    @netvor@lemmy.world avatar

    They used to be also fascinated by plastic.

    I bet their smiles would not last long realizing that the 5g bag of pretzels has 2g of plastic (and that’s just the tip of the plastiberg).

    drunkpostdisaster ,

    Ship travel in the age of sail was more accommodating. At least you can walk around and shit.

    Blackmist ,

    Good old airlines and their ideal business model:

    Charge you like you’re flying on Concorde.

    Treat you like you’re on a 16th century slaving ship.

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