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techietechtecherson , in godsdamn council has no respect for the next generation of magic

I prefer the dark arts of Techromancy and the abominations created returning old tech to life.

AlmightySnoo , in godsdamn council has no respect for the next generation of magic
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damn I remember the days when you’d usually have a wizard animation during an install

mesamunefire , in godsdamn council has no respect for the next generation of magic

Can I get this reversed imaged? I love these kind of images. Like the unix wizard.

kamenlady ,
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Maybe crop out the text, before you try a reversed search. This way you should find more wizard images, not only memes.

ccf ,
mesamunefire ,

Nice thanks!

Norgur , in godsdamn council has no respect for the next generation of magic

./configure
make
Make install
make install exited with error code 1

Vile corruption has taken hold of our strongest spells!

Metal_Zealot , in godsdamn council has no respect for the next generation of magic
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Divination, Conjuration, Installation

calavera , in Every day, twice a day

Mine much prefer our leftovers than its food

HelloHotel ,
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Mine looses somthing within herself itself when it goes from jekel to hyde with those glassy eyes.

IWantToFuckSpez , (edited ) in incredible

You could probably make explosives from manure. Use that to conquer a small community and make yourself the leader. And start a rebellion against the local lord and become the king. Then you have the resources and slaves to find copper and magnets and shit. Problem is the massive language barrier. Their language is just gibberish to us and vice versa.

blanketswithsmallpox ,
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Then you have the resources and slaves to find... magnets and shit.

They already had magic in the old days though. They used to have to fight dragons and witches and shit back then.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

You’d kill them off before they’d get a chance, though

explodicle ,

And all the germs we carry to which we’re already immune.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

They’d actually kill off any would be time traveling conqueror pretty quickly with smallpox.

Tavarin ,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

Definitely take your smallpox vaccine before time traveling. They still make them, so it shouldn’t be too much hassle.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

Aren’t those only available in developing countries and via the military?

Tavarin ,
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You can get it in Canada. You need to give a good reason to get it, but I’m sure time travel would qualify. If not, just say you’re a laboratory worker researching Smallpox, and they’ll give you the vaccine.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

🤔 Not a bad plan.

explodicle ,

Man I gotta move to Canada. The US government gives me jack squat for time travel.

afraid_of_zombies ,

The IRS sends you a letter reminding you that time travel counts as being abroad and any earnings you make are still taxable.

Intralexical ,

And since the IRS wasn’t formed until 1862, you’re stuck paying at least a couple hundred years of interest on missed payments!

FlyingSquid ,
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I don’t know if they would be willing to give you the smallpox vaccine in order to go back in time and totally change history so none of the people involve in giving you the vaccine would ever have been born.

sokz ,

Couldn’t chickenpox vaccine suffice?

Anticorp ,

I don’t want to type out that thing you said, because I don’t want to end up on a list, but idk how to do that.

SeaJ ,

The Anarchist Cookbook can show you the way.

name_NULL111653 ,

Ibic Manda.

(This is The Way)

Anticorp ,

I said I don’t want to end up on a list.

Ubermeisters ,
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  • GravelPieceOfSword OP ,

    this one never gets old… haven’t found another one like it despite searching every 6 months or so 😂

    Blasphemy , in incredible

    I think it would actually be easier to wow people than people think. You’d just have to focus on older technology rather than completely modern stuff. If you know that steam engines are a thing, and even vaguely how they work, you can build the king a pump to get running water without having to run massive aqueducts, or a crane to build his massive projects, or any number of directly useful things. An understanding of basic germ theory could set you up to be the best doctor in the world. Or even just a bicycle would probably be quite useful to get around without a horse, and I’m sure anyone could make a rough mockup of a bike.

    MotoAsh ,

    I think you underestimate what it takes to get modern plumbing water tight and easy to manage. Threading, clean threading, teflon, and easy to manage plastic pipes, have all been invented within the last 200 years. Mostly, the last 80.

    and that’s just the literal direct infrastructure within a house. Water towers are not simple. Underground pipes are not simple. Civil plumbing and waste management is not simple.

    KevonLooney ,

    Yeah, even electricity is easy to explain. You just rotate a high quality magnet within a coil of thin high quality copper wire. Easy.

    Problems are:

    • How do you make a high quality magnet?
    • How do you purify copper fine enough?
    • How do you make a spool of the copper wire?
    • How do you make the bearings for the shaft?
    5714 ,

    Nah, problems arise much earlier. Metals are expensive (proper steel is a thing of the 1700s, try getting proper coke) and your claims might be considered too outlandish for funding of home industrialisation, even making the needed tools might take ages.

    Depending on when you are, science might even be considered evil, useless, unless you have very clear, direct and easy use cases (e.g. horse collar, compass, wheelbarrow).

    Interesting could be the printing press for problem solving.

    Proving electricity is easy, since even static electricity is relatively unexplained for a long time. You already know that metals are great conductors, hell, even what conductance roughly is. You know lead acid batteries. Simple conceptual motor and lead acid batteries together with printing press is probably enough to industrialise many societies early.

    Don’t know to get acid though.

    pigup ,

    Concentrate citrus fruit juice

    Neve8028 ,

    Depends where you travel back to. If you’re in Europe, then good luck lol.

    5714 ,
    Blasphemy ,

    Actually, I think you just got what you should make first - a simple Gutenberg press. You could probably make it all the way back in the Bronze age, using copper or brass for the stamps and the rest is just wood and rope. You’d just need a basic knowledge of levers and screws, and suddenly you have (relatively) mass-production media.

    IWantToFuckSpez ,

    And you need knowledge of the local language they might not even have a written form yet. No point in a printing press when you don’t have symbols to print.

    subspaceinterferents ,
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    Modern stuff is hard.

    linearchaos ,
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    Efficiency would certainly be pretty rough but wire’s been around since about 2,800 BC. Copper would be the way to go if you could manage it but any conductive metal would get the job done to some extent.

    Finding a reasonable safe insulator might be a little bit of a chore.

    Soft metal bushings have also been around for a really long time.

    Efficiency on magnets would be difficult, You might want to just use a really huge battery pile and electromagnets.

    The manufacturing tolerances for the axle the wire and everything would be a fight.

    I don’t think you have a chance in hell of producing anything in the same efficiency range is what we have today, but compared to not having electricity at all… It might be worthwhile.

    The thing is even if you make the electricity what the hell are you going to use it for? For light bulbs are going to need glass blowing in inert gases. You’re going to need diodes resistors capacitors and transistors to do radio, You could probably usher in tubes but that shi*'s almost black magic as it is.

    cogman ,

    Copper is the easy part. Get it hot enough and you’ll end up with high quality copper… Sourcing the copper is much more difficult.

    Finding magnets is somewhat simple, you just need some iron… That’s a lot more difficult. Iron smelting is way harder than copper smelting (especially without electricity).

    Making bearings is also difficult. It requires not only iron smelting but also high precision machining.

    KevonLooney ,

    High quality copper isn’t that easy to come by.

    en.wikipedia.org/…/Complaint_tablet_to_Ea-nāṣir

    Gork ,

    lol one of the oldest texts in the history of our species is a complaint.

    Blasphemy ,

    But it doesn’t have to be up to modern standards, and certainly doesn’t have to be with modern materials. Get the local cooper to make your pipes and reservoir with pitch-sealed wood. Or make it out of stone, or cast copper, or whatever they use to store water anyway. If it’s Roman or post-Roman, they’ve already had some experience with running water anyway, that wouldn’t be the impressive bit.

    Threading and such is mostly useful for mass-manufacturing standard pipes and using it everywhere, but at least at first you’d just be doing it for a rich/powerful person or two, where you could do something labour-intensive and unscalable.

    I’m not saying that you would get a perfect, modern system straight away, but if you can convince the people to give you the benefit of the doubt through a prototype or two, you could make something that works well enough. That would be what I’d be concerned about, even if you can magic away the language barrier, they’d likely just think you’re mad.

    name_NULL111653 ,

    Language isn’t too much of a problem depending on the region. Assuming this is Rome or shortly before, Koine Greek and Latin are well enough known that you can learn it after a few years of study if you’re good with languages.

    Blasphemy ,

    Yeah, but I’m assuming you just get dumped there with minimal preparation. Otherwise you could also study up on early technology and know exactly what to make and how to make it to be impressive. And the ‘convincing them you’re not mad’ problem still exists.

    IWantToFuckSpez ,

    If you know that you get dropped in 14th Century England you could also prep and study Middle English since the Canterbury Tales is the first book written in that language. And we still have surviving copies.

    ICastFist ,
    @ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

    and that’s just the literal direct infrastructure within a house. Water towers are not simple. Underground pipes are not simple. Civil plumbing and waste management is not simple.

    The romans did manage to build a nice system, tho. I hear the persians also managed one.

    Blamemeta ,

    Can you build a metal laythe? Can you build one precise enough for a pump?

    Can you get rubber or silicone for gaskets?

    There are a lot of problems

    Ubermeisters ,

    If you’re asking if I know how to rub 3 plates together the answer is yes!

    Tavarin ,
    @Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

    You don’t need to be super accurate for a basic pump. If you know the design you can get medieval blacksmiths to make the parts for you with close enough accuracy.

    name_NULL111653 ,

    Yup. Even a cleverly designed “reverse” water wheel or Archimedes’ screw could do it with just a simple, inefficient steam engine.

    atlasraven31 ,

    I can’t even draw a bike.

    burningmatches ,

    Steam engines are more complicated than people seem to think. There’s more to it than just boiling some water and voila! They’re pretty much useless without a governor. How many people know how to make this crucial component?

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_governor

    chakan2 , in incredible
    @chakan2@lemmy.world avatar

    Eh, grab a big fur and a metal rod of some sort…you get static electricity that way.

    blanketswithsmallpox ,
    @blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social avatar

    Tell your mom I said Hi btw.

    idunnololz , in Look again
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    Fk I have been away from Reddit so long I forgot the name of the community there that had this content. If anyone knows please let me know. It’s driving me nuts.

    bob_wiley ,
    @bob_wiley@lemmy.world avatar

    /r/confusing_perspective

    idunnololz ,
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    Thank you!

    Kolanaki , in incredible
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    I’d actually be able to teach them how to make it if they have copper and magnets, since I know how to make a simple generator. They’d be SOL on how to use it though, because I don’t know how to make something entirely from raw materials that would require electricity. Which means they also wouldn’t know I am creating it with the generator… 🤔 Uh… Shit.

    This is actually kinda wild to think about and I hadn’t considered it before. Making electricity is easy! Using it is actually more complicated.

    Rentlar ,

    Making an “ouch” device or basic heater is something I could do.

    Even a battery I could make a simple alumium air battery cell. Or lemon battery. But I’d be viewed like a sorcerer asking for foreign ingredients like salt, aluminum, copper and zinc.

    Kolanaki ,
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    Depends on how far back and where you went. Whoever made the Baghdad Battery probably wouldn’t even be impressed.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Droggelbecher ,

    I swear the Americans remove another letter from the word aluminium every time I look away

    subspaceinterferents ,
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    Yanks are a sneaky bunch.

    BackOnMyBS ,
    @BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

    it’s all the uranum from the atomic bomb tests

    Zoboomafoo ,
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    Aluminum would be nearly impossible to obtain, it’s actually my preferred grab in a hypothetical “You’re going back in time and can take one thing” situation

    Tavarin ,
    @Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

    Yep, it was worth more than gold before modern methods made it easy to isolate.

    GreenPlasticSushiGrass ,

    You could give people a mild shock. "Here. Hold these while I crank this thingy." Could be good for some lulz. Or get you burned as a witch.

    Blasphemy ,

    I mean, the Baghdad Battery’s pretty old. We’ve had electricity for a while, just nobody knew what it was or how to use it. Just like us now.

    Redjard ,
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    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I love Minuteman. His series on Graham Hancock’s bullshit show earlier this year was terrific.

    Juvyn00b ,

    You can make a generator… so then stretch wires to a distance and put a motor on the end of it (similar to the generator). Basically blow their minds in that you could transfer power over distance without a mechanical coupling.

    Anticorp ,

    Joe Rogan had a good line back before he became… whatever he is now. Anyways, the line is “if I dropped you off on a deserted island, how long before you could send me an email?”

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Why is email the metric?

    Anticorp ,

    Well you’d need to invent mining, metallurgy, machining, manufacturing, radio waves, computing, computer programming, electricity, and a slew of other technologies that took thousands of years and millions of people to create.

    EpicFailGuy , in incredible
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    @neutralbipolar2

    That's what youtube is for ...

    scientific curiosity is very healthy

    5714 , in Look again

    So what?

    cley_faye ,

    It’s not the case.

    5714 ,

    It’s just shoes.

    cley_faye ,

    It’s a post about an optical illusion. You seriously missed the point.

    LinkOpensChest_wav , in incredible
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    Kalkaline ,
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    I feel sad for the fundametalists sometimes.

    LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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    Same tbh. Christian homeschooling is very common where I live. It’s borderline abuse imo

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