Without consent is one thing*. Most police investigations are not consensual. Without warrant is quite another thing.
I expect my providers to respect my rights up to the maximum guaranteed by law. I certainly don’t expect anyone at any company to risk jail by defying court orders. But I sure as shit don’t expect them to roll over and lick boot at the first opportunity they get
*) this is why end to end encryption is so important
This is actually what an adult cow looks like, we just never get to see it in real life because we kill them for meat before they achieve their true glory. All of humanity used to be pescatarian, but a cult of human skaters convinced us to start eating cows so that they could win at the X Games
I’m NB and quoting Harry Potter just sounds like you hate me
Edit: also I get very few people messaging me first
Edit 2: I really don’t understand the downvotes outside of maybe just enjoying Harry Potter. This is just a personal experience I’ve had.
Harry Potter stuff directly funds anti-trans organizations and that leads to the furthering decline of mental health among trans people which leads to them dying.
Sure, an opening message doesn’t send any money to JK but it’s a massive red flag that someone is willing to send money to JK.
People are allowed to enjoy things, but in turn, I’m also allowed to decide not to talk to someone for funding hate speech.
I guess it is bad in the sense that it’s not great pick-up line to use in your case, but I do like the creativity. Would’ve been better used to someone with some Harry Potter stuff in their bio though
I’m sorry you have to deal with so many ignorant and apologist people.
Everyone who exuses the hate Rowling spreads because of the Harry Potter cult is partly responsible for the harm and danger this causes to trans and non binary people.
How’d you get access to that? It seems to be a major pain in the backside (at least here in the UK as a person afab) getting anyone to actually take NBs seriously in terms of the medical side of things.
I told them they were hurting my back, which had the advantage of being true. Also I saved up. Idc what people want to label shit as long as I’m able to do what I gotta do. In fact, I would argue the labels were the problem in the first place and we should stop making new ones and push the ones that exist back into the narrow context in which they’re actually useful.
Not necessarily. One can be non-binary and not be trans. I know someone that identifies as NB and they never “transitioned” into their current self. They’ve always been that way and never transitioned.
Edit: also, what’s with the vitriol? Is this such a contentious subject that you’re angry that I might have a view other than yours? Why does that make me an “asshole?”
That sounds a lot like you lean more towards the medical side of trans. This is fine on its face but it can often lead to a lot of gatekeeping and such within and outside of the community.
The most common example is to have people only count as trans if they are taking medication and then limiting access to that medication to certain groups, effectively removing the classifier of “trans” from the person.
Judging someones anything purely by a certain standard leans into the No True Scotsman side of things and can damage the community and it’s members.
I appreciate that you’re willing to learn more on the topic either way. I don’t think you’re an asshole but basing if someone is trans purely medically is also something assholes do for asshole end goals. It’s less about you and more about the company that shares that opinion and the other opinions that company shares amongst themselves.
“I appreciate that you’re willing to learn more on the topic either way. I don’t think you’re an asshole but […]”
And I appreciate that you understand that not everyone knows everything. I apologize if I seemed in any way reductive or dismissive. That was not my intention. I was just saying what I learned from a NB person about their experience. I know that not everyone has similar experiences or opinions.
Learning is an essential part of being human :D I definitely still have more to learn either way.
It’s important to note that some NB people do consider themselves trans and some don’t… Which can get a bit confusing if you’re out of the space itself.
I just personally worry that any sort of blanket classification of NB people as non-trans can lead to the erasure that bisexual people experience. (Bisexual people are often called “gay but trying to hide it” even within LGBTQ+ spaces)
So true with the bi erasure; I have experienced that personally.
I, again, apologize for my ignorance. I didn’t realize the issues regarding the feelings people have about NB being trans or not. I have a limited experience with close friends explaining their views on the subject.
Okay so like, 1% of nonbinary people don’t identify as trans but it’s generally accepted considered part of the trans umbrella and it’s fucked up to the vast majority of nonbinary people to say they arent trans… esp when there are tons of asshole transmeds trying to say that.
I never claimed to be an expert. I am admitting now that I am somewhat ignorant as to what the exact definitions are, but from what I understand from what my NB friend explained it is that if you transition from one gender to another that makes you trans. NB are neither gender so there was no transition between genders.
I guess one could make the argument that they transitioned from being gender-labeled to being non-gender, but IMO that’s a stretch in an attempt to label NB people as trans.
That being said, there is nothing wrong with being trans. I was just trying to make a distinction as was explained to me by a NB person.
I guess what they’re getting at is that if “non-binary” is considered a gender identity unto itself, then you could describe one being trans with the transition being “from man to non-binary”, for example.
Gender identity doesn’t get assigned at birth. There is no “gender” field on a birth certificate.
Sex gets identified at birth (at the latest, usually before, during pregnancy, unless specifically requested to keep it secret).
Two reasons this is important to point out:
Assignment implies that the act of assigning is what makes it so. It’s not. If a doctor says that a male baby is female, it’s not now female just because they said so. “Identify” is a much more accurate description of what the doctor is doing.
The whole premise of “transness” being a thing relies on the notion of sex and gender being two distinct, independently-variable traits. So be careful not to conflate them. It causes needless confusion, since conflating them literally undermines the whole thing–after all, if “sex” and “gender” are equivalent, then it’s objectively impossible to be trans.
I very much agree with this point. My reaction there was mostly just a gut response to being excluded from trans spaces in the past for not being “trans enough” and I could’ve worded it better.
It just frustrates me how much trans people/activists fuck up their own messaging with confusing/ambiguous/self-contradicting rhetoric, you know?
Another major example imo, is using the single word “gender”, both to describe gender identity (something an individual person has), and gender roles (something a society has), sometimes in the same damn sentence.
The best way to ensure a discussion isn’t productive is to make sure that the ‘discussers’ are using the same terms, but are defining them differently, lol…
I stand corrected; non-binary people are transgender. I apologize for my ignorance. I just didn’t know.
What I also don’t know is why you’re so angry. All that happened was I didn’t know something. I learned my mistake, apologized, and hope you’ll relax a little and realize that not everyone knows everything you do. Please don’t be mad at someone’s ignorance.
Maybe don’t speak so confidently on trans issues when you aren’t trans! Esp considering the transmed vibe you have given off, inadvertantly or no. Just stop speaking for other people.
And I rewrote the comment in caps not out of anger towards you, but out of a desire for clarity for anyone who reads it. Don’t take everything so personally. If you use transmed talking points, even inadvertantly, expect to be called an asshole. Same thing goes if you were to spout any bigoted talking points you didn’t understand.
“not buying your ignorance explanation anymore, you seem really dismissive.”
Of course I’m going to eventually be dismissive toward someone that is antagonistic from the beginning. The second I lash back you play the victim. Get over yourself. You wanna see dismissive? Go …
I think the people downvoting took “quoting Harry Potter sounds like you hate me” as “quoting Harry Potter means you hate trans people” (stated as fact). The OP said this is how it feels to them, we shouldn’t downvote people for sharing how they experienced something.
Also I think people are reading it as “the worst pickup line.” rather than “the worst pickup line (for me as a NB person)”
Victim complex. Maybe instead of making everything about you and your struggles, just take it for a funny post that has literally nothing to do with trans people.
this post literally has something to do with trans people because a trans person posted it and shared how they felt, as a trans person, when receiving this message.
but go ahead, discredit trans people by saying we have a “victim complex”. it outs you immediately as a transphobe so it’s useful for me
Wow. You seriously just said “everything I interact with is about me”. That’s some serious, like not even funny, clinical level narcissism. I’m not even joking anymore, you should get therapy for that. It’s a really unhealthy outlook.
Did you read the OP’s comment and explanation? That I was replying to? You actually seem lost. You’re trying so hard to be condescending but boo… like did you read the comment?
Someone literally just shared their experience as a trans person, and it was downvoted. Maybe listen to what the commenter said, instead of just down voting it?
I’m NB (to the extent that I’ve had surgery to remove gendered parts of me) and sometimes I just let my friends enjoy one of the biggest cultural events of their childhood without making everything about me because I’m capable of seeing that their actual actions have always been wholeheartedly supportive of me and that’s the part I actually care about.
And I’m glad you’re able to do that and have people around you that support you. This doesn’t change the fact that I don’t enjoy people who promote something that funds people like me dying.
If you’re able to get over that, that’s awesome and I believe you deserve good things, I am simply not able to.
There is no ethical consumption. Even a bunch of the food in America is funded by prison slave labor. I’ve been sick for months and one of the only things I can stomach is bananas and chiquita just funded another cartel to kill a bunch of poor farmers over them. I’m not going to blame other people who are poor and discriminated against because of what rich people do, that’s the entire point of the psyop / propaganda. Let the gotdamn poors enjoy the bread and circuses; it’s all they’ve got anymore.
You should read this from her own words. I know you won’t read it all the way through because your mind is probably made up. Maybe someone will come along and see her in a different light though. I read the whole thing. Zero hate of any kind. jkrowling.com/…/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reas…
So I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside. That is the simple truth.
This is a terrible argument because if a man wanted to abuse women in the restroom, he wouldn’t need to transition to do so. He’d just walk in. There isn’t an armed guard at the door of the women’s bathroom.
Being happy for a depressed person is hard, and that realization made me love, kiss, slopy-style, the name IDLES gave to their most popular album: Joy as an act of Resistance. Idk your taste, but maybe these UK punks can make you feel seen at least.
That’s a valid question. I’d come to it right after I figure out how these hands work. Our written history knows wars started for even less significant reasons, so I’m pretty damn serious.
Low quality information is easier to produce than high quality information
Even worse, while people prefer high quality information, the preference is weaker than other preferences, such as the desire to see things that are cute or make you angry
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