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Now that we're finally out of reddit, can we finally get different tag for NSFW and NSFL?

For the uninitiated, generally NSFW is for sexual contents and NSFL is for gory contents. People may want to see one but not see the other at any time for any reason. I have seen this feature requested over the years in Reddit but it never happens. Maybe now some instance can finally implement it?

ofk12 ,
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ZILtoid1991 ,
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The ActivityPub interface allows it to my knowledge. It's just not widely used.

meldrik , (edited )

Why can’t people just not look at the name of the community and then easily conclude if it’s sexual content or gory content?

Edit: Seems my English skills fucked me over.

RagnarokOnline ,

Real answer? Because technology could easily do it for you if people tag posts in OP’s proposed way. Just one less thing for a viewer to have to think about.

Crookclaw ,

It would also allow for different filters. Blur NSFW, but not nsfl, or vice versa. Or even only show post of one and hide others entirely, without having to block communities by hand.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Do we really need community names? I feel like we could just use the first line of the description

Fizz ,
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Osrs has f2p

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

It’s an old name :P

spauldo ,

Sometimes NSFW images are appropriate in otherwise SFW communities. For instance, imagine a community on exterior design that had a post with a picture of that building in Germany with the five-story-high penis on it. Or a community for desktop themes that has a post with nudes wallpaper. Or a community about a certain celebrity that posts pictures of her car wreck.

Caaaaarrrrlll ,

What building in Germany has a 5-story-tall schlong?

theKalash ,
spauldo ,

Search for “Friede sei mit Dir”

meldrik ,

Then you would look at the community name and concluding that the image is about exterior design, but not something you should look at, at work.

I didn’t type my original post correctly.

spauldo ,

Looking at pictures of external design is usually pretty safe to look at when you’re at work. I imagine architects do it all the time.

MinekPo1 ,
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Going back to reddit r/WTF often had posts with either gore or nudity (or both), as an example.

meldrik ,

That’s a good example.

I think most instances doesn’t allow gore though.

at_an_angle ,

I follow the Ukrainian war. Blocking all NSFW blocks so much of the news.

I want to block porn, not news.

meldrik ,

So the Ukrainian war posts should be tagged as NSFL then?

thismessisaplace ,

It would help differentiate from porn, yes.

at_an_angle ,

The graphic ones should be. Videos of death and fighting, yes.

If it’s just politics, general news, or Russia acting like a baby, no.

Cornpop ,

Why

prettybunnys ,

Don’t be a contrarian for a second and think of the why yourself, it’s easy and good for your brain!

Cornpop ,

So leave it be.

Dmian ,
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Because people have the right to know what type of content they can masturbate to.

Bonehead ,

I thought that was already clear?

NSFL = Gore
NSFW = Porn

SkaveRat ,

yes, and that’s why this post exists

Bonehead ,

But really, why? We already have the tags. Just type them out at the start of the post and it's clear what kind of content it is. Do we really need to commit code to this?

SkaveRat ,

because it can be used to automatically filter out content you want to see from content you don’t want to see

Bonehead ,

If you want to commit code, a better option would be to let me filter by post title keyword. That way I can filter out NSFW, NSFL, and any other words I don't like.

SkaveRat ,

no, because it would also filter out stuff like this post, that just discusses it, but the content being generally okay

calavera ,

Yeah but there is no nsfl tag

muntedcrocodile ,
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Is this a protocol or a client issue? Would absolutely love to see it.

darq ,
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I would have thought that such a feature would be completely uncontroversial. Really weird that some people seem resistant to it.

Blank ,

Some people get off on shocking others with dehumanizing gore etc. when they thought they were in for a dick pick at worst.

Chainweasel ,

Most of the resistance to it on Reddit was because NSFL content was technically not allowed on the site at all and adding a specific tag for NSFL material could be seen at legitimizing it. But they didn’t heavily moderate it either so I don’t see the point in refusing a tag for it if they’re not going to do anything about it themselves either.
What really blows my mind though is the subset of people that want a NSFW tag to mean Gore/Death and a separate PORN tag for titties and such. I mean, we already have established terms for those so why not stick with what everyone already knows them by?

GamingChairModel ,

I think the Supreme Court decided this issue in Bush v. Gore, and it’s been controversial ever since.

darq ,
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Eyyy

Magesticles ,

This is a good idea, anyone who thinks otherwise hasn’t stumbled upon a guy getting his head chopped off when they didn’t want to see it.

qaz , (edited )

Wouldn’t it be better to have more specific tags like movies? e.g. “Sexual content”, “Gore”, “Death”, “Violence” or for content that you truly want to avoid; “US Politics”.

neutron ,

Perhaps categories first then the specifics? (e.g. NSFL: Gore)

ademir ,
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I like this one

qaz ,

Why would you need a category in addition to a tag?

neutron ,

Just a thought. Some might need finer details vs block whatever its marked NSFW.

qaz ,

Wouldn’t a specific tag provide enough detail?

TheAndrewBrown ,

Personally I’ve never liked the idea of NSFL. It just doesn’t feel like it has the eighth connotation, it’s wording feels like it’s meant to be a joke when it’s content is rarely funny. I think just using “Gore” or “Death” would be absolutely better.

CoderSupreme , (edited )

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  • Resonosity ,

    An advanced search would be so fing good for Lemmy. I realize that the problem is mainly how most modern search engines can’t do wildcard top level domain searches so you can’t really look up posts from lemmy[.]world or etc., but then Lemmy also has wildly variable domain names too which makes searching all the more difficult. A solution for this is so critical for discoverability and usefulness

    Cold_Brew_Enema ,

    Don’t forget “Musk” and “Trump”

    aceshigh ,
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    is it possible to hide those here?

    Saff ,

    Another great one would be for phobias, being able to filter out images of a snake for example if you hate them. Sometimes the title filtering can do that but that doesn’t work when someone titles their picture “look at this cute little guy”

    qaz ,

    That’s a good idea. The client could let the user select their phobia from this list of all phobias from Wikipedia with a description and then filter for the tags matching the description.

    guyrocket ,
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    Can this be done with the hashtag tags? Does that functionality already support what OP is asking for?

    DBT ,

    Why do we need a different tag when NSFW and NSFL already exist?

    McNasty ,

    NSFL doesn’t exist as a tag. Your only choice is to tag it NSFW.

    Sterile_Technique ,
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    I’ve always thought, of all the options to warn us that clicking will put titties on our screen, that “not safe for work” was a bad choice.

    Like, what if your work doesn’t care about titties? What about the tons of other times you wouldn’t want those to pop into your screen without warning, like when you’re on public transit, or sitting next to grandma?

    I’d vote for “LEWD” vs “GORE” or something more clear - users can decide for themselves when it is or isn’t safe.

    elvith ,

    Correct, if you work for e.g. Pornhub, NSFW might have a different meaning

    LemmysMum ,

    Same if you work for the SEC.

    TheGiantKorean ,
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    I can just imagine the HR conversations at Pornhub. “Steve, we have reason to believe that you’ve been viewing non-pornographic material at work.”

    Pringles ,

    I can imagine they don’t want accountants or IT people looking at porn while they work though. Their own websites are probably not filtered, but whether the work is for a porn site or a car manufacturer, you prefer them focussing on their work. For a content reviewer though, it’s a different story.

    That being said, there is not enough money in the world that would convince me to become a content reviewer. The shit they have to sit through is often utterly vile and traumatizing. Here is an article about a facebook moderator as an example: www.bbc.com/news/technology-57088382

    TheGiantKorean ,
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    I was mostly joking, but yeah, being a content reviewer has got to be a soul crushing job. I can’t even imagine the shit you would see.

    samus12345 ,
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    Reminds me of when new episodes of Rick and Morty were being posted on PornHub and they took them down.

    ricecooker ,

    “Steve, your numbers are down. We have reason to believe you have not been viewing enough pornographic material at work.”

    Nioxic ,

    My job doesnt care.

    Of course i cant just browse porn all day, but clicking a random picture onnreddit with boobs?

    Nobody cares

    GamingChairModel ,

    Of course i cant just browse porn all day, but clicking a random picture onnreddit with boobs?

    We should be able to look at a .

    rjs001 ,
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    I’m uhhh glad I don’t work in an environment where that would be tolerated by other employees

    Voyajer ,
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    At this point isn’t that pretty much any work from home job?

    rjs001 ,
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    I don’t think your coworkers at a work from home job would tolerate that much either quite frankly

    DLSchichtl ,

    And ffs, make them different colors

    Teodomo , (edited )

    I don’t care about Reddit (or about growing Lemmy) as much as the average post I see in Lemmy, but if you wanted to migrate people from the former to the latter this is one of the easier ways to help do it. It’s one of those small quality of life things that are asked for periodically. If Lemmy had it it’d be mentioned in Reddit every time people are pissed with the site (which is every day for most sites, including Reddit). It’d be free mouth to mouth word of mouth (being ESL is funny sometimes) publicity for Lemmy

    blindbunny ,

    Not Suitable For Lemmy

    Salamendacious ,
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    That’s cute

    blindbunny ,

    Not as cute as you 😜

    dx1 ,

    Having gone through the code a bit, the NSFW handling looks very baked in, so it’s not a small ask. The smart approach would be to add an arbitrary tag system and handle it that way.

    FunnyUsername ,
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    Is that the smart approach, or the easier approach?

    I just got done reading a whole diatribe on how everything sucks because the code for everything is just duck tape on top of duck tape.

    tonsky.me/blog/disenchantment/

    TWeaK ,

    I love it when my tape quacks.

    FYI it’s duct tape. Duck Tape is a brand that sells a type of duct tape, among other tapes.

    FunnyUsername ,
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    I actually already knew that. I think duck tape is more fun 😄

    crawley ,

    “Duck tape” actually has a longer history than “duct tape.” While there is also branded Duck™ tape, duck tape, as in adhesive cotton duck, has been around since the 1800s or so.

    dx1 ,

    I think it’s both. Instead of trying to update the codebase with one new database attributes for each conceivable way to tag content, you simply put in facilities to abstract that - “show only posts with tag foobar”, “hide all posts with tag foobar”.

    afunkysongaday ,

    Yes please and just call it what it is! “Brutal” and “sexual” feg. Because I for one work in a sex fight fetish porn production studio so to me all of this is very sfw.

    reagansrottencorpse ,

    Do you make those naked MMA matches that end in sex I’ve seen?

    SalineSolutions ,

    I bet you have some hella interesting workplace stories and hella banal, mundane ones

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