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What's the dumbest blockbuster movie you have seen that somehow received high praise?

I’m not saying the worst, otherwise I would need to include the star wars sequels or transformers movies… Just some really dumb movie that somehow got praised.

For me has to be Ready Player One. That movie message is so “uhuh” obvious that is stupid, the whole nerd that saves the world in a thing that otherwise would be useless to know in real life… The so over the top evil gaming corporation. The whole 80s and 90s movies and games references get old after half an hour… And it’s so pandering towards the geeks and nerds, they really want the viewer feeling really cool for knowing that is the Shining hallway, or that is a Monty python reference… Or look a GUNDAM! YOU’RE SO COOL FOR COLLECTING THOSE GUN PLA! Look we have also overwatch and halo in the background! You’re so cool modern gamer!

Also the obviously attractive “nerd” hacker girl that thinks she’s ugly and deformed for having a small hard to see red tint in one side of her pretty face… Cmon man. In no universe anyone would think that actress is ugly.

And the message at the end is so hilarious: Look man, you’re cool for getting these references and being a real gamer is cool, but go outside more!

Is like the creators have no self awareness.

harsh3466 ,

For me, it was A Quiet Place. I found it incredibly dumb and impossible to believe that nobody on the whole of the planet ever considered that these aliens with ultra incredible hearing weren’t somehow vulnerable to noise? Just dumb as fuck, especially when you consider that sonic weapons already exist and are used, and sound is routinely used in torture/incarceration scenarios.

Annoyed_Crabby ,

I like it but yeah, somehow high pitched noise lose to gunshot.

teawrecks ,

Eh, I think of it more in the vein of It Follows. It’s not supposed to make sense, it’s supposed to be a minigame for the audience to play along with the characters. It lays out a simple set of mechanics and then uses that to build tense dilemmas, giving the audience a chance to think about what they would do in that situation, and what they definitely want to prevent from happening.

I didn’t see the second one, though. Heard it wasn’t great (no pun intended).

EmoDuck ,

Iirc, cochlear implants don’t actually produce sounds, but an electro static (?) feedback. So the aliens aren’t actually vulnerable to sounds but to that.

The movie probably could have explained that better

NickwithaC ,
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Also the solution is guns.

lorty ,
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The movie was great until that lame “solution” to the alien problem.

KingThrillgore ,
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I actually don’t mind the premises behind the Death Angels, but the reasoning is pretty weak behind them. They could be defeated easily and the cast would not survive outside of the film’s sound design. The rest is just shit occurring for the point of the movie to exist, and its told pretty damn well.

And then they made a sequel. And now a prequel. This didn’t need to be a franchise.

AFKBRBChocolate , (edited )

I worked on the space shuttle program, and I found Armageddon almost unwatchable. I mean, those things go up with the big solid rockets and an external tank full of hydrogen and oxygen, all of which get jettisoned during launch, then they come down as a glider. But in the movie they’re landing on asteroids and taking off again, smashing into things and still flying, etc. (remember how Columbia blew up because of a crack in the leading edge of one wing?). Plus the whole premise of it being easier to teach oil drillers how to be astronauts than to teach astronauts how to be oil drillers is a joke. Every astronaut I’ve met has been an amazing capable person - many are test pilots with multiple advanced degrees.

Zahille7 , (edited )

I always love the interview with Ben Affleck about Armageddon: “I asked Micheal why it would be easier to train drillers to be astronauts rather than vice versa, and he just responded with ‘fuck you.’”

AFKBRBChocolate ,

Ha! I hadn’t heard that - I’m glad someone involved called him out on it. I mean, I get that the real answer - to that and all my complaints - is that the movie doesn’t work otherwise, but it’s so annoying.

NickwithaC ,
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If the movie doesn’t work unless you include a plot hole then the movie doesn’t work.

Zahille7 ,

The very first bit in this video

FookReddit69 OP ,

I’m sorry but I ADORE Armageddon lol is very emotional and self aware. Is definitely a NO BORING movie and always keeps moving, even when there’s no explosions going on. Ben Affleck > Neil Armstrong, I bet he couldn’t had reached those 400 feet in time! 💣

SomeGuy69 ,

Because it’s easier to put someone in a suite than teach them years of experience of drilling. You might remember that even the experianced driller had trouble. They also send astronauts with them as well to do the astronaut things, not just the driller crew.

The smashing into things thing and still taking off…well the movie was supposed to have a happy end for the remaining crew. It would’ve still been a happy end to have them die, but this way you get a lovely reunion with the families.

I don’t know you, but if you go by questioning plot-armor, you’ll have a really hard time to find something to watch.

shalafi ,

Agreed. All the drillers have to do is ride. OTOH, neither group would fare well learning to drill in microgravity.

captain_aggravated ,
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There’s also the really stupid “high G burn around the moon” scene, which I would love to see Scott Manley try to replicate in KSP.

norimee ,

As soon as you know too much about a certain topic, any movie or series about it turns to shit.

I’m a nurse and badly done medical stuff in movies are so rampant and it drives me crazy.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

That’s super true. What’s worse is that it often turns out to be true of news as well. There have been a few times when I was familiar with events that made the news, and there were always inaccuracies in the articles. It’s made me look at articles on events that I’m not familiar with differently; they probably have the same amount of inaccuracies.

I’m software engineering in aerospace, so a lot of computer and space stuff is ruined, which covers a lot of content.

But everyone should smack their heads about Armageddon.

Toribor ,
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Astronauts brains are too big, their soft womanly hands incapable of drilling. Wearing a spacesuit and floating around a bit is trivial. Only some yeehaw boys and one man who ‘tells it like it is’ can save us.

ramble81 ,

That’s why I liked Deep Impact. It went must more (potentially) realistic than Armageddon. But the latter wanted its “common man, that people can relate to, saves the day” trope.

MintyFresh ,

Deep impact is a great movie! Directed by Mimi Leder. She also directed The Peacemaker, a great 90’s adventure movie with George Clooney and Nichole Kidman. If you’re into that sort of thing.

ryathal ,

I don’t understand the the thinking that astronauts would be amazing drillers. Drilling is functionally a trade, the education aspect isn’t the key factor, it’s the experience. The movie actually does a fair job explaining why.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

I never said that being a driller is trivial. Do you think being an astronaut is trivial? That’s a pretty intensely technical job, which is why the bar for entry is so insanely high. I would put my money on those folks leaning how to drill better than drillers leaning how to be an astronaut.

ryathal ,

It’s not trivial to be an astronaut, but most didn’t need to be. Flying the ships, docking, and landing on an asteroid all require intense skills. The drilling required a similarly intense set of skills that you can’t gain in a week. You can probably teach someone the bare minimum of putting on a suit and working in it.

Duamerthrax ,

I would have written it so the drilling crew needed to learn to be astronauts and the astronauts needed to learn drilling and send them both up. That way, they would be each other’s backups and you get another small story arc out of it.

salarua ,
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Aquaman. the visual effects were ridiculous, the characters were one-dimensional, the soundtrack was…something, and the overall tone was that of a testosterone firehose to the face. i said the eight deadly words about halfway through, and i was thoroughly bored out of my mind despite action scene after action scene after action scene…the only reason why i didn’t just get up and leave was because i was watching with a group

krolden ,
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Jason momoa is always either great or horrible in different things. its very strange

salarua ,
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he absolutely carried Stargate Atlantis, it was weird to see him in Aquaman

miracleorange ,

I find he generally gives his best in whatever he’s in, but the projects he takes… vary in quality, to be polite.

HelixDab2 ,

My god, even among DC movies, that was such a steaming pile of shit. And so what did they do? They made a sequel.

(Hey, I like DC movies. I really enjoyed The Flash, and I liked the Superman v. Batman, with Batfleck. So for me to say Aquaman was a turd in a punchbowl means something.)

Zahille7 ,

What’s weird is it’s reportedly one of the highest grossing DC movies of all time, and a lot of people online kept hyping it up after it was released. I almost lost it when Pitbull started playing “Africa” unironically.

HelixDab2 ,

I prefer the .

BigBananaDealer ,
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i fell asleep during that movie multiple times. something i also did when i saw morbius (sadly me sleeping caused me to miss the best scene in that movie, when that one guy starts dancing)

Brutticus ,

Sometimes I wish Hollywood still made lower budget movies, because this felt like it needed a lesser production value. Jason Momoa knew what kind of movie it was.

HootinNHollerin ,

Terrible movie

Sanctus ,

The Purge. They’re all dumb as fuck. “No lawz fur wun day. Halps soseyetti.”

Yeah no, trust in the government would break the floor and anarchy would reign instead. Not to mention businesses would probably refuse to operate here.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Really? I’d guess the opposite would happen, and the power vacuum would be quickly filled by alternate purge-day-only governments.

Postmortal_Pop ,

Don’t get me stated on how fucking dumb it is that everyone everywhere just immediately turns to murder. Crime isn’t something I have a problem with, so when I say I’ve never committed a murder it’s not because the pesky laws are stopping me. I just genuinely don’t see the need to kill someone. But no, everyone and their mom is going full zodiac all day all night if it went for laws!

MehBlah ,

I would be boosting high dollar items and parking them in my yard.

Zahille7 ,

That’s a plot point in the prequel one (I’ve only seen the first one, though) and from one of the trailers I remember seeing, during the very first Purge people were just throwing huge parties and getting all kinds of fucked up, and the people on charge were disappointed because they just wanted people to kill each other.

It was posed as some sort of secret government conspiracy to keep the population/minorities/what have you “in check.”

Omniraptor ,

That just sounds like a saturnalia

BruceTwarzen ,

I would say most people would just do nothing and the rest would go buy drugs

Klear ,

Are these highly praised? I thought they were at best considered fine examples of a genre that’s looked down upon.

SeattleRain ,

I love The Purge, especially election day. They really hit that sweet spot between exploitative horror and substantive political commentary.

Which is what the best B movies do.

HappyRedditRefugee ,

Chaos, not anarchy!

prole ,

Seriously, it’s always been the dumbest fucking premise of all time.

andyburke ,
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ianovic69 ,
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That’s a strange film. I watched it at the cinema when released and enjoyed the visuals, but it seemed like the story was purposely simplified to a wild west love yarn so that the audience would have to focus on the visuals. There’s so little to distract from the “cutting edge” CGI, any depth to the plot or characters would be detrimental to the six fucking years he spent making it.

Which I can understand as it does achieve that. And I didn’t hate it, mainly because it did look amazing and I wasn’t distracted from that. But I’ve never watched it again and wouldn’t want to.

Weird.

classic ,

I appreciate this take

TexasDrunk ,

Dances With Aliens was a masterpiece, dammit!!!

Seriously, it was fine I guess. Agreed that it looked fucking amazing in theaters.

andyburke ,
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Name a main character. Not the actor, the character.

If you can, you'll be the first person who has been able to that I have asked. (Though I have never asked online.)

TexasDrunk ,

You’ve asked the wrong guy. All I know is it’s Kevin Costner.

andyburke ,
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So close, if only you had said Mary McDonnell.

billgamesh ,

John Smith?

Nath ,
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I knew them (Sam & Zoe’s characters), but I watched the sequel only last year. I probably couldn’t have told you had you asked me in 2022.

I don’t remember any other character names from either movie.

ShepherdPie ,

Jake from State Farm?

Zahille7 ,

Same. I liked the movies for what they are: expensive, cinematic special-effects thrill rides with pretty much the loosest stories.

The second one looked absolutely gorgeous in theaters.

Rai ,

The key is to watch it in 3D… on acid. The dialogue and characters are hilarious and the world is beautiful.

onlooker ,
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James Cameron’s Titanic. It’s marketed as a romantic film, but the moment you start looking at other aspects of the movie, it just seems stupid. The antagonist is so cartoonishly evil, it’s a wonder they didn’t give him a mustache to twirl.

And then there’s the ending. Oh dear lord, the ending. Spoiler warning and all that: at the end of the movie, The Titanic s(t)inks and the passengers try to get to safety. Rose finds a floating door or something to stay afloat and finds Jack swimming in the freezing ocean. Then Jack makes the most non-sensical decision in the entire movie: he sacrifices his own life for no good reason. The plot frames it as a necessary sacrifice, but it totally IS unnecessary, because there was enough room on the stupid door for two people. And then we flash forward to the present, where Rose is old, but still has that gem she wore throughout the movie… and then she tosses it into the ocean. WHY.

Basically the plot boils down to: two young people have a fling on a boat and then the boat sinks. It absolutely did NOT deserve all those academy awards it got that year.

EmoDuck ,

People are STILL bringing up the “there’s enough room” arguments?

The movie LITERALLY shows you why it doesn’t work. At first they both try to climb on it, but they’re too heavy and the stupid thing capsizes. Only then is Jack like “You go take it, Imma good”

Also, Mythbusters tried it and got the same results. 2 people to heavy, 1 ok.

onlooker ,
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It’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie (and have no desire to see it again) and I don’t remember the scene as clearly, so that’s on me. Throwing away the gem was still colossaly stupid, though.

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    Akasazh ,
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    Dito

    grrk ,
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    No, the Mythbusters actually proved the door could support two people. At the end James Cameron himself basically throws his hands up, concedes and makes some comment about “whatever, if the script says Jack has to die, Jack is dying.” Rewatch the edpisode if ya don’t believe me

    EmoDuck ,

    Yes, after the took off their lifebelts and tied them under the door for adden buoyancy.

    I think two people, already stressed to their teeth, now also suffering from hypothermia can be forgiven for not having the same presence of mind in that situation

    grrk ,
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    Guess i forgot about that detail, so thanks for the correction. The end results are the same either way though. The door can float 2 but the script says jack has to die, rendering the entire argument pretty moot. James Cameron’s comment was basically “science be dammed, Jack’s drowning.”

    Duamerthrax ,

    I’m sure if Cameron realized that the door of that size, with two life jackets underneath could support two people, he would have written the door to be smaller. It’s ok not to like the film, but this is just CinemaSins level pedantic.

    mukt ,
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    It is too early to say Oppenheimer?

    bunkyprewster ,

    Agreed. Bombastic. Felt like it missed the whole point of Oppenheimer’s moral dilemma

    Omniraptor , (edited )

    I’m biased but I thought it was pretty clear with portraying Truman as an unambiguously bad guy and Oppenheimer as decent but failing at a critical moment and then regretting it later

    bunkyprewster ,

    I’ve always imagined his moral dilemma was knowing that (after the Nazis were defeated) going ahead with the bomb was wrong, but wanting to do it anyway - because they had become so invested in the idea, and wanted to see if they could.

    Toribor ,
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    I’d been pretty eager to see it. Everyone told me how intense it was, I actually put it off for a little while because I wasn’t sure I was in the mood for something really bleak and existential.

    Watching it I was like oh okay this is a movie. Not bad but I wouldn’t call it an intense experience.

    Appoxo ,
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    Meh. If you like a political bio pic it’s probably very interesting but it didnt grip me as tight.

    Qwaffle_waffle ,

    Haven’t been able to finish it, losing my attention on it. Want to join the hype but… 🤷

    unionagainstdhmo ,
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    I think it was just too long, maybe at half of the length they might have thought more about what belongs in there

    Catoblepas ,

    La La Land. Musicals are already on thin ice, but a musical about some arrogant, self obsessed people complaining about how hard it is trying to be (and ultimately succeeding in being) successful?? UGH. Shut it all down.

    pjwestin ,
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    More importantly, >!they just gave up on their relationship because one of them was leaving the country? For what, less than a year? After all that, they just threw it all away because they didn’t want to deal with FaceTime for a couple of months? Bet they felt real fucking dumb when the pandemic hit.!<

    CyberMonkey404 ,

    Right?! “Oh no we are so brilliant and talented and smoking hot, but the world won’t just give us success on a silver platter and now that we made our dreams come true we miss being together”.

    KISSmyOSFeddit , (edited )

    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

    I’m a huge Tarantino fan and enjoyed every single one of his movies, except that one.
    Maybe you had to have been in the Hollywood scene at the time to understand the humor, but I was bored out of my mind the whole time and wondered whether he’s making fun of the audience and seeing if he can get away with a movie without a real storyline if he just includes his signature foot shots, long conversations about nothing and a massacre at the end.

    krolden ,
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    I never finished it j just got bored

    DeltaTangoLima ,
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    I’m a huge Tarantino fan and enjoyed every single one of his movies, except that one.

    Are you including Jackie Brown in this assessment? Because that’s the one Tarantino film I’d never return to. Bored the shit out of me.

    I can see how Once Upon a Time in Hollywood wouldn’t do it for a lot of people. The storyline was pretty bloody thin.

    From memory, my wife and I had only just recently watched the Aquarius TV series (a few years after it was made) followed by Mindhunter (we were on a true crime kick back then), so the intersection with the Manson murders kept us hooked. Also, Tarantino using the same Aussie actor from Mindhunter to reprise the role of Manson felt like a really cool Easter egg.

    But, that’s the thing about Tarantino - he’s always going to be polarizing. You either love or hate a given piece of his work, I guess.

    demesisx ,
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    I disagree entirely. Jackie Brown is actually my favorite Tarantino film.

    Tasteful and interesting.

    DeltaTangoLima ,
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    See? That just illustrates my point perfectly. I reckon Tarantino intentionally sets out to put people firmly on either side of the love/hate fence, with each film.

    scops ,

    It was hugely freeing for me to realize this. I didn’t really care for Death Proof and I absolutely hated Inglorious Bastards. My friends thought I was crazy. After loving Kill Bill and everything I had seen before it, I thought Tarantino had just gotten too far up his own ass. Then Django came out and was just fun and cathartic and I realized I just needed to take each project as it came

    Xer0 ,

    Yeah Jackie Brown is my least favourite Tarantino film by a mile.

    BigBananaDealer ,
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    damn i loved jackie brown i thought it was fantastic. and i also loved once upon a time in hollywood

    prole ,

    Damn, Jackie Brown is great

    MargotRobbie ,

    just includes his signature foot shots

    To be fair, those foot shots are … as good as foot shots can be, at least.

    Sigh.

    chunkystyles ,

    That was the last movie I saw in theaters until two weeks ago when I saw Furiosa.

    I enjoyed Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Furiosa was better, though.

    Artyom ,

    I think the problem was that half of the movie was a memorial to the victims of the Charles Manson murders and the other half of the movie was about Brad Pitt and DiCaprio, and the two stories had absolutely zero synergy.

    PraiseTheSoup ,

    Gravity isn’t a space movie. It’s just 2 hours of Sandra Bullock crying and hallucinating. It’s probably the second worst movie I’ve ever seen after Open Water.

    Natanael ,

    And that scene where she can’t pull in the non-accelerated astronaut colleague while still being in atmosphere thin enough that he wouldn’t fall behind, so he just drifts away through magic

    Melatonin ,

    Interstellar: just found it kind of ridiculous, outlandish, in no way believable or connected to anything even theoretically within reality. Pseudo-serious science fiction. Big budget blah.

    Inception: I love Nolan but that was big swing and a miss for me. Went in excited, came out wondering where the fuss was all about.

    Followupquestion ,

    I’ll outright say it. Other than The Prestige and the later Batman movies, Nolan movies have been very disappointing to me. They’re not clever, they’re pretentious. If you ever saw that Netflix movie where the woman dated Keanu Reaves, the part where Keanu asks the chef for a meal the plays with the concept of time is every Christopher Nolan movie in a nutshell. Also, the action sequences in Batman Begins were unnecessarily choppy, and the idea that it was somehow how a bat would see them is just silly.

    Melatonin ,

    Huh. Maybe I DON’T love Nolan.

    Melatonin ,

    Had to go look up that scene. Thank you. Thank you so much for directing me to the scene.

    I do not want to see the movie, but my life is richer for having seen that scene.

    No1 ,
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    The stories in both were somewhat disjointed and as with most sci-fi, requires some level of suspension of disbelief.

    Nowadays, storytelling and plot takes a big backseat to action and explosions…😔

    JillyB ,

    I need to leave this thread. Interstellar is my favorite movie of all time.

    Melatonin ,

    I’m sorry, it just wasn’t for me. A lot of people agree with you!

    Toribor ,
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    Shitting on Inception and Interstellar at the same time?

    My right hand curls into a fist instinctively. My left hand covers it and pats it gently.

    No… I must choose peace.

    rwhitisissle ,

    “My daughter Murph. I keep gettin’ older. She stays the same age.”

    Also, I love how he had a son who just wanted to be a farmer and that meant that Matthew McConaughey’s character was justified in being totally emotionally disinterested in him, compared to his genius daughter. Seriously, at a certain point I think Nolan forgot he wrote this guy with two kids. His entire character was defined by his relationship with his daughter. Why even give him a son in the first place?

    ser ,

    I liked both Interstellar and Inception. I hated Tenet - on how the story was told and the inaudible sound (eye roll).

    tobogganablaze ,

    The Starwars Prequels.

    sentient_loom ,
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    They were so bad, but not nearly as bad as the sequels.

    tobogganablaze , (edited )

    I think I would agree, though I only watched the sequels once and was so bored I didn’t really pay attention. But when the sequels released Starwars was already ruined and I very much expected them to be shit. So I guess they don’t feel as bad because they were close to what I expected.

    Also I’ve seen very little praise for them compared to the prequels.

    sanguinepar ,
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    Hard disagree, the sequels were much better than the prequels IMO. Well, 2 of them were.

    Plum ,
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    I was old enough to see the original trilogy re-released with all the bad dumb filler George Lucas thought was necessary to complete his vision.

    All the poopy squelchy gross-out CGI was obviously a crass moneygrab, but it seemed like such a reflection of the man himself that I boycotted the prequels when they came out. Then I found Red Letter Media. Fuck the prequels. Fuck that creepy bastard. Han shot only.

    tobogganablaze ,

    Oh, yes the special edition re-release … where all the guns have been replaced by walkie-talkies and the word Wookie has been change to “hair challenged animal”.

    The Plinkett reviews are probably the best thing that came from the prequels! I must have watched them more often then the actual movies by now.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    The prequels had the best light saber fights in the franchise though.

    tobogganablaze ,

    I guess they look prettier. But they are boring AF. There is no tension or stakes between the characters because they’re all boring or unlikable and it’s so highly choreographed it looks like dance number from a musical.

    Yeah, OT lightsaber fights lacked action. But at least they had weight and meaning behind them. That makes them much, much better in my opinion.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    They’re lightsabers wtf would they need weight lmao

    Look, George Lucas wanted Wu xia style movies with space samurais and the choreography did that PERFECTLY. Is supposed to look like a dance, have you seen HERO or crouching tiger hidden dragon?

    The Disney sequels tried to do a more “realistic” style, I bet inspired by John Wick or the bourne movies but with “swords” but failed, the mistakes can be seen during the choreography. I can’t remember a single mistake being noticeable during the prequel fights.

    tobogganablaze ,

    Ok, so you clearly only care about the action scenes and don’t care about the story at all. Guess that’s a view point that exists.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    Anakin vs Obi wan was a visual spectacle and still one of most emotional fights in the series… And it’s in the prequel. I rest in my case.

    tobogganablaze ,

    I guess having 15 mins dance number against overloaded CGI background is technically a “visual spectacle”, I so give you that.

    one of most emotional fights

    I don’t even know how to respond to that. I guess feeling relief that the movie is finally over is an emotion.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    Dude is not just my opinion, I hate majority of star wars lmao. Is overrated as fuck. But is definitely the most emotional fight, especially since we can see that tension build up since episode 2, awful lines or not.

    And definitely feels way more sincere than whatever the fuck is Disney doing now with the sequels and those viral trend fabricated shows.

    tobogganablaze ,

    Dude is not just my opinion

    Oh it very much is just that. And I respect your right to have a terrible one

    And definitely feels way more sincere than whatever the fuck is Disney

    Sure ok. But that’s comparing a turd to diarrhea. Sure one is worse then the other, but in the end both are just shit.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    No

    the_doktor ,

    OT lightsaber fights looked like people who practiced the idea of “less is more” combat and knew pointless flailing and twirling around was useless against a similarly skilled opponent. This MADE SENSE. Everyone in the prequels flipping around and going nuts with the lightsabers and all that – it was laughable. Even Luke in the OT who wasn’t as skilled as some of the so-called “masters” from the prequels used at least some restraint and thought when fighting.

    The prequels are garbage and I’m sick of people who think they’re good just because we made memes out of them.

    tobogganablaze ,

    Spot on. And don’t even get me started on Yoda. Not even did they make him stupid as fuck … no, he also had to get a little lightsaber and flip around like a character on super smash brothers. So ridiculous and basically a total character assasination.

    Xer0 ,

    Honestly, now that I’ve watched them more recently I enjoyed them a ton. At least Lucas had an idea of where he wanted to go with it, unlike the shit Disney trilogy.

    captain_aggravated ,
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    Aeons ago, I came across a picture of a young woman in a “steampunk Elsa” cosplay. It was “steam punk” because she had brown leather straps with brass buckles everywhere and she was wearing a pair of goggles like a hat. It was “Elsa” because the cloth parts of her bustier was cyan.

    Feels reductive, right? That a genre of fiction with themes and ideas to explore, and a main character from a major motion picture, both get boiled down to some leather straps and colored cloth.

    That’s what Disney did to Star Wars. It’s not a story anymore, it’s a cosplay aesthetic.

    neidu2 ,

    I kind of like them, actually. I know this is a fairly unpopular opinion, so allow me to elaborate:

    I grew up with ep IV through VI, as my brother had them on VHS. I was instantly a fan, and I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen them.
    Once I was old enough to be aware of the concept of a story not existing in a vacuum, I started wondering about how ep III ended, and other things, long before I knew they would turn the prequels into movies as well. I was curious about the world building and the star wars universe in general.

    And that’s what the prequels did for me: They finally answered so many of the questions I had after watching the originals. So it was pretty cool for me to finally see that aspect on the big screen as well.

    However, they should’ve skipped JarJar Binks. And a lot of the world building seemed tacked on as a result of George Lucas realizing he could include anything he wanted thanks to CGI.

    And speaking of CGI: Han shot first. I liked the remasters, but they truly fucked ip Han Solo, trying to make him a loveable loner instead of some outlaw who was after a quick buck

    tobogganablaze ,

    And that’s what the prequels did for me: They finally answered so many of the questions I had after watching the originals. So it was pretty cool for me to finally see that aspect on the big screen as well.

    But it was terrible worldbuilding that often contradicts the original movies or just doesn’t make any sense.

    I liked the prequels when they first came out. But I was around 11. And I thought they were great because of the much better lightsaber and spaceship action. I got so many Starwars LEGO sets.

    When I rewatched them in my early twenties I was baffled about how bad they were, now having learned to care about storytelling and characters from other shows and movies, the fight- and action scenes weren’t really that important and when you don’t focus on them, the movies are just so boring and awkward. That wasn’t the case when rewatching the OT.

    Postmortal_Pop ,

    I want two things from star wars, lightsaber fights and mandalorians. The pre-quals are the best source of both.

    krolden ,
    @krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

    I liked grievous

    prole ,

    I’ve recently come to terms with the fact that I guess I’ve just grown out of Star Wars. When you strip away all of the nostalgia, I don’t think any of the originals (or prequels) hold up at all. And the newer ones have just been trash.

    tobogganablaze ,

    I’ve recently come to terms with the fact that I guess I’ve just grown out of Star Wars. When you strip away all of the nostalgia

    Very true. Rewatching stuff later with a new perspective certainly changes things.

    I don’t think any of the originals (or prequels) hold up at all.

    That is where I disagree. THe orginals do hold up, because Starwars was about classic adventure story. The character of Luke Skywalker. The original trilogoy (and there are quality differences between the eopisodes) overall get this right. It’s the sort of timless story, just with a spin on it beeing a sci-fi world.

    The prequels and sequels completley missed that aspect of basic stoytelling. The OT stands out as a piece of revolutionary cinema, where the prequels are an elaborate ad to sell more Starwars toys.

    thrawn ,

    where the prequels are an elaborate ad to sell more Starwars toys

    This is clearly not true, Lucas cared a lot about his story and universe. I say this hoping it helps effectively communicate points later: statements like that detract from your premise because they’re obviously false to an audience that knows and cares. It would be better (from a rhetorical standing) to double down on the poor storytelling allegations by acknowledging it as true instead, then going on to say that they were cinematic incoherence regardless.

    I haven’t seen a single one of the prequels in over a decade except RotS (which I thought was an interesting story but a poorly made film), but my dislike of the prequels is because they’re not good movies. My dislike of the sequels is that they were not good and were made to maximize profits.

    THe orginals do hold up, because Starwars was about classic adventure story. The character of Luke Skywalker… It’s the sort of timless story, just with a spin on it beeing a sci-fi world… The prequels and sequels completley missed that aspect of basic stoytelling.

    This is where I completely disagree. Movies should not be aiming to do only the classic adventure story over and over again, and the prequels weren’t bad because of the story. They actually had a pretty classic story too: an evil being corrupts a well-meaning but slow-to-react institution filled with self serving or incompetent representatives by manufacturing conflict to seize power. All the while the forces of good are distracted and unfocused by the chaos— and too sure that their institutions will not bend to tyranny— until it is too late. With a solid director, the prequels could have been excellent, and also perhaps a prophetic warning about complacent democracies.

    tobogganablaze ,

    This is clearly not true, Lucas cared a lot about his story and universe.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Oh wait, your’re serious. Let me laugh even harder.

    Movies should not be aiming to do only the classic adventure story over and over again, and the prequels weren’t bad because of the story.

    Right. Movies shouldn’t. But Starwars should. But that’s not even the main issue. The prequels are just terribly written, no matter what genre they were supossed to be. Bad story, terrible characters with no development, inchorent and self condtradictory and padded with stupidly long and boring action scences. They are just bad movies. A director couldn’t have fixed that, they would need a complete rewrite.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    Does that mean that from your point of view all the movies are evil?

    tobogganablaze ,

    Not sure what you mean by that.

    I can offer you bad, terrible, aweful, dreadful, horrendous, vile, digusting … but I wouldn’t say evil.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    I was joking using the meme by Anakin

    whereisk ,

    Black Panther.

    It had so much hype in the media, i was so excited to watch it. It turned out to be rather boring and forgettable.

    gramie ,

    A nation of people so advanced that they decide their dictatorial ruler through a trial by combat.

    Appoxo ,
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    Back to monkey

    ClassifiedPancake ,

    Don’t Look Up. It felt like a movie made by a Redditor who thinks he’s really smart.

    tanka ,
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    I did not get the hype for ‘Don’t Look Up’.

    Notyou ,

    Yo! That movie sucked. I have a theory the only reason Leo starred in it was so that he could be called a sexy scientist or whatever he was.

    NauticalNoodle , (edited )

    I thought It was a pretty solid critique of mainstream American culture of the moment. What didn’t you like about it?

    Xer0 ,

    Probably hit too close to home.

    NickwithaC ,
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    Badum bum

    Liz ,

    It’s not subtle enough with its critique. Either that or it’s not ridiculous enough. It’s sitting in the middle zone that just doesn’t work well.

    jacksilver ,

    I absolutely agree, felt like they didn’t know what kind of movie they wanted to make and just kinda threw whatever they could think of into it.

    TORFdot0 ,

    The hype was for its star studded cast. The movie itself was also a chuckle but was really obvious for its critique and satire.

    Passerby6497 ,

    I still haven’t finished it. So many stars are just unlikable and the pacing (of the half I saw) is just not enough to keep it entertaining enough to overcome the cringey ‘just look at how awful everyone in power is’ caricatures.

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