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luthis , (edited )

Any type of game (sandbox, RTS, etc) where the landscape changes dynamically.

All games are either player vs player or player vs mobs or player vs game-mechanics-that-affect-your-stats. But I have never played a game where I have to consider a river overflowing and destroying a village, or an avalanche, or earthquakes.

Even when there are environmental hazards, the base map never changes. Rivers never change their course, islands don’t appear or disappear, oceans don’t dry up, dams don’t burst, quarries aren’t excavated.

The world and nature are always dead and static.

Edit:

Actually, Dwarf Fortress does tick those boxes quite often.

BmeBenji ,

This would be fantastic. I wish the Red Faction series was still alive for this reason specifically.

xpinchx ,

Check out Timberborn, it doesn’t check all of your boxes but a lot of it revolves around water management - building dams and reservoirs, diverting rivers, surviving dry seasons, etc. At its core it’s just a fun city building game and I highly recommend it if that sounds good to you. It’s 20% off ok Steam right now too.

los_wochos ,

A cooperative multiplayer shooter, but one player sees everything from above and delegates everyone else. Like in a RTS.

BmeBenji ,

If you haven’t played it, Battlefield 4’s commander mode sounds kind of like what you’re describing. People are still online (at least on PC) and welcoming to commanders.

all-knight-party ,
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Angels Fall First's commander role is sort of like this, and that game is awesome

Quetzalcutlass ,

There are a few games like this. Natural Selection 1 & 2, Nuclear Dawn, Angels Fall First, Allegiance, and the old old Battlefield games come to mind.

nevernevermore ,

Bioshock 4, but with Ken Levine back at the helm.

BmeBenji ,

If you haven’t played it, I strongly suggest Prey 2017.

If you have played it, what would you specifically look for in a Bioshock 4 that Prey didn’t have?

AnonTwo ,

Warcraft III had maps called "RP Maps", which were kindof like D&D placing things, except everyone had the same control over the map. So it became more about telling a story rather than one person leading a group's game for them.

When wc3 kindof died off that kindof game along with many others didn't leave it. SCII mapmakers tried but it had issues with the complexity, and with SCII not allowing traditional saving for long sessions.

A lot of sandbox games are cool, but built around FPS engines instead of anything third person.

ArmoredThirteen ,

Hey I made a roleplaying inspired Starcraft 1 map back in the day! Player 1 was the DM, I had different ways to spawn and send units to various parts of the map, or resources to players. So I would do things like spawn in a neutral and a hostile faction and be like ‘there are bandits fucking with the locals’ or whatever. Whoever went in and saved them I could pop another trigger to gift the neutral units to that player, or I could gift resources. It was clunky but a lot of fun.

I remember some of the roleplay maps with automated ‘DMs’ were really interesting. I was much more interested in playing with a live DM though so I built that map in the hopes that the style got enough traction for me to be a player. It did not take off though compared to the auto roleplay ones

Susaga ,
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Social Anxiety Survival Horror. You’re a guy at a friend’s party trying to avoid conversations while putting in an appearance with your friend so they know you were here. You can deflect conversations with small talk you pick up by eavesdropping, but it won’t work on drunk people, so you also need to run and hide. Your ex-partner eventually shows up and is hunting you down to have a frank conversation about your relationship, which is instant game over.

roadrunner_ex , (edited )
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I haven’t played it - and the “social anxiety as horror”-slant feels more metaphorical than literal in its marketing - but this makes me think of the game “Homebody” a bit

theonyltruemupf ,

I had a very similar idea but it’s about avoiding contact and conversation out on the street and on public transportation. May or may not be influenced by real life experience.

JusticeForPorygon ,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

You’ve just proposed the next indie game of the year

Susaga ,
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Good. Someone, please make this. And make it first person for the full effect.

Other ideas for people to pinch:

  • You can only use each snippet of small talk once before collecting it again, because you’re afraid of repeating yourself.
  • The game is filled with collectibles, but they’re all located on the floor, so you’re more likely to find them if you’re in character and looking at the floor the entire time.
  • To pause the game, you have to look at your phone while standing in a quiet area.
  • Your ex-partner has a lengthy list of grievances you can hear when they’re hunting you. This includes “you always run away from me at parties”.
BackOnMyBS ,
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What about Panic Disorder Survival Horror? You have to get through a full week, including 5 work days, 2 social events, and an errand…except you can have a panic attack at any time but also have a heart condition, so you’re not sure if you’re really having a panic attack or heart attack. If you guess wrong, you lose. Also you have to have a completely empty bladder and colon so you don’t soil yourself at work and get fired or in a social setting and lose friends out of embarrassment if you happen to have a panic attack in those settings. Easy mode comes with a script for xanax. Hard mode comes with an abusive stalker ex and their family.

Volkditty ,

I would love to buy this game on sale and never get around to playing it.

Arthenos ,

You can checkout …steampowered.com/…/Milk_inside_a_bag_of_milk_ins… - it’s not that but it’s a somewhat similar thing

prole ,

Easy mode: party host has a dog or cat that will let you sit and pet it all night.

maxenmajs ,
@maxenmajs@lemmy.world avatar

3D wizard fighting game

Bishma ,
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A modern, Rocket League-like, online multiplayer version of Rocket Jockey

drdiddlybadger ,
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Victoria 2 except in space.

A terraforming game that is all about actual climate dynamics and trying to force random worlds into what ever shape possible.

clayh ,

I want a vampire-survivors style game that integrates with my music streaming and the enemies/weapons sync to the music I’m playing.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Did you ever try Audiosurf?

clayh ,

Yeah it’s nothing like what I described other than I pick my own music.

Have you ever played audiosurf?

TheaoneAndOnly27 ,

Yeah, but have you checked out frets on fire. It too can have your own music. Although.... That's even further from a vampire survivor game.

shapesandstuff ,

Theres a twin stick shooter in space that syncs to your music. No clue what its called anymore. It came a few years after audiosurf!

NaibofTabr ,
clayh ,

Good call, def will check this out

shapesandstuff ,

Thats the one!

NaibofTabr ,

Beat Hazard is sort of close, though a different theme. If you put it on one-stick mode (auto-aim) it plays more like Vampire Survivors.

shapesandstuff ,

I’d argue twin stick shooters like this are VS grandpa. Random-ish waves of enemies, bullet hell, increasing difficulty… The main differences are the powerups instead of permanent level ups, usually the lack of autoaim (right?) and maybe lack of meta progression.

sim_ ,

Interesting! I can already picture the min/max song playlists going around lol

ArmoredThirteen ,

Crypt of the Necrodancer lets you add custom music. I don’t think it is able to handle music streaming though it is a bit of a manual process iirc. The gameplay is pretty different from Vampire Survivors. Basically enemies all move and attack in patterns that increment based on a beat, and you need to time your movement and attacks to the beat as well. Fun game

DeathWearsANecktie ,

A realistic singleplayer shooter game with multiple settings from WW1 right through to the Vietnam war. Extensive maps, vehicles, and weapons. You can play anything from an infantry soldier to the captain of a battleship or pilot of a bomber.

Closest thing to that is the Arma games.

ivanafterall ,
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Especially if you could mix and match eras and maps.

Delphia ,

A rapid fire, action point based tactical MMORPG.

Like 5 to 10 seconds for a turn, everyone lodges their turns and over the next 10 seconds the characters play out their actions with complex complications for unplanned conflicts. Like a guy running though someone elses thrown grenade or two guys trying to run through the same doorway.

Wild_Mastic ,

Please, I highly suggest you to check ‘Your Only Move Is Hustle’. Not an mmo but sound exactly what you described.

Delphia ,

It looks interesting. The easiest way to explain what I’m talking about is imagine fallout tactics on a grand scale and an mmo.

buh ,
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A game where the main missions feel like the early Silent Hill games but there are parts between where you explore a densely populated urban area like Cyberpunk 2077

Ithorian ,
@Ithorian@hexbear.net avatar

No Man’s Sky but with the combat of Everspace 2, the economy of Endless Sky, the base defense of 7 Days to Die and fully developed factions and species.

Sir_Kevin ,
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There are far too few VR co-op games. The ones that exist are mostly shooters.

BmeBenji ,

Asymmetrical VR co-op is a goldmine just waiting to be explored.

pushECX ,

I’m curious to know what you mean! What is an asymmetrical VR co-op game?

BmeBenji ,

By asymmetrical I mean a game where one person (or possibly more) is playing in VR while the other(s) are playing with a controller.

The first that comes to mind is Davigo which has yet to come out but looks like a lot of fun.

Another is Takelings: House Party

Additionally, Payday 2 oddly allows co-op between players on standard controllers and those in VR. That’s less interesting since they have the same abilities regardless of control method.

I’d love to see more games that explore asymmetry. Ever since Evolve ate up all my time for 2 years I’ve been looking for the next great asymmetric game and not enough devs have ventured in VR for that purpose.

pushECX ,

Ah, thanks for the response! I don’t think I’d considered or played such a game before. Pretty interesting stuff!

jandar_fett ,

There is a lot of potential in asymmetrical games in general with certain players having access to different information and strategies than others due to their perspectives… letalone adding VR to the mix. I am imagining that the VR players can pull out a clipboard or tablet containing secret info, in order to try to obtain separate objectives or even hamper the other controller based players with them having to ferret out the traitor or stop the VR faction from achieving their objectives!

Carnelian ,

Phasmophobia is super fun co-op

Sir_Kevin ,
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I’ve actually been itching to play that. My gf tried it with me months ago and was absolutely terrified.

Carnelian ,

Oh no for sure lmao. When I first started playing I would literally just exit the game if I heard a floorboard creak

But it gets sooooo good the more you play, especially on the higher difficulties where ghosts suppress some of their official “evidence” types and you have to rely on your knowledge of each ghost’s unique traits. Genuinely of the most rewarding detective style experiences I’ve ever played

TheWeirdestCunt ,

First person city planner, probably in vr where you can plan something out and then see your city grow as you walk around it

Sir_Kevin ,
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Cities VR is pretty close to that.

TeaHands ,
@TeaHands@lemmy.world avatar

This sounds mint and I’m sad I’m too solodev to make it.

DaMonsterKnees ,

Fuck that, I believe in you friend. You can be the next Tynan. The next Concerned Ape. Today is the day, YOU GOT THIS!

TeaHands ,
@TeaHands@lemmy.world avatar

Today is most certainly not the day, as I have covid and am mostly just sleeping. But thank you for believing in me lol

pat277 ,

This but let me drive around too, maybe even free running like mirrors edge around the city I built

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