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Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

I think it’s an improvement, particularly for folks like my grandfather that have the UI/font scale increased.

On his phone there was basically 1-2 words that would fit in that old text box …


<span style="color:#323232;">so his
</span><span style="color:#323232;">text
</span><span style="color:#323232;">message
</span><span style="color:#323232;">preview
</span><span style="color:#323232;">looked
</span><span style="color:#323232;">like this
</span>
deweydecibel ,

Then maybe they should make it an option instead of ruining it for the rest of us because wasting space is the new hip thing.

askat ,
@askat@programming.dev avatar

Maybe they reserve that space for future AI suggestions?

Liz ,

Almost certainly the answer. Same reason they just hobbled their “ok Google” by not letting you access it with the screen off anymore. They’re going to switch engines and they want to reintroduce the same features all over again but make it feel like an upgrade.

skuzz ,

“We can’t remember what happened last quarter, so surely our users won’t remember how their phones used to be better! Genius! Moving on, time to go make and destroy a new app, how about a notepad app this time?” --Google

loudambiance ,

On the new pixels, as you start typing you get some AI tools that will rewrite your message, make suggestions, etc

MetricIsRight ,

Pixel 7 Pro here, haven’t seen this at all, it’s just dead space for me.

guyinachair ,

The 7 isn’t new anymore. That person meant the 8

hank_and_deans ,

Pixel 8 pro here. I haven’t seen it either.

guyinachair ,

A tragedy. I hate that little useless space. Those features should be on Gboard not messages

camr_on ,
@camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

I love textra. I wish I could just get everyone on signal though

lemmyingly ,

I think the only downside to Textra is that it doesn’t support RCS - or I don’t believe it does. They have a newer app called Chomp SMS that does. I’m still using Textra because the only communication I get on it is from companies.

nymwit ,

Do you have information on it supporting rcs? I don’t see anything on the play store mentioning it. The first Google results I see say it doesn’t. Seems like it would be a big deal because if they did and would be prominently displayed as I thought only Google messages and Samsung messages supported rcs.

chomp.uservoice.com/…/1895488-rcs-implementation

lemmyingly ,

I think I’m mistaken. I have no idea where I got it from but I must have seen something to give me the illusion. Ignore what I said.

camr_on ,
@camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

I had no idea they had another texting app. I’ll have to check it out and compare

themusicman ,

I like it. Previously it would hide a bunch of icons to give the bar more space, now it doesn’t need to

woodenskewer OP ,
@woodenskewer@lemmy.world avatar

From what I noticed they only added an emoji button though. This already is on my keyboard area. Maybe I’m missing something but at least you enjoy it.

player2 ,

And the emoji button in the message area has less features than the one found in the Google keyboard (no emoji kitchen?!), so I’ll never want to use it anyways.

Pure_Decimation ,

There is also the new AI response button. But not everyone sees that. I think that’s the biggest reason for this change. It looks better than the couple other ways they demoed the ai smart reply ui. https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/48567b50-711c-4ecd-844c-b5493d39c33b.png

deweydecibel ,

At the cost of space for the actual content on screen.

Cringe2793 ,

While I agree this is bad, do people still use messages? In my country everyone uses WhatsApp or Telegram.

The only time I open the messages app is to get OTPs or something.

vala ,

Yeah SMS is used a lot in North America, especially in the US, and especially by older people.

CCF_100 ,

Yeah, that’s true. You don’t want to know how many times I’ve messaged someone on an arguably better platform only for them to say, “I prefer text”. It’s annoying…

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

I believe it’s due to North America making text messages free early on, while many other places charged for them. As a result, the culture of texting stuck.

QuillanFae ,

I would prefer to use a standardised, client–agnostic messaging protocol than anything that requires a specific app.

I stopped using WhatsApp because using a Meta product makes me feel icky. I use Telegram and Matrix to contact drug dealers. My work requires a combination of Google Chat, Teams and Slack. Some of my friends like to stick to Discord.

What would be really great is if we could all decide on one protocol for sending end–to–end encrypted text and media over HTTPS to a globally unique ID and have everyone use whatever client they like. Like SMTP but more streamlined and secure. Google, Apple, Samsung etc can ship devices with a default client, but allow users to install another one that they like more.

But OEMs don’t like things to be open. Apple has iMessage, Google has RCS, and Samsung probably does some bullshit I’m not aware of since committing to the Pixel life. So I will probably always have a folder with 15 different messaging apps.

FeatherConstrictor ,

Samsung is RCS as well, as far as I’m aware RCS is supposed to be a platform agnostic upgrade to MMS. Please correct me if I’m wrong but I thought RCS not being supported by iOS is simply because Apple won’t implement it.

workerONE ,

I just looked through all the settings, there doesn’t seem to be a way to change it back.

woodenskewer OP ,
@woodenskewer@lemmy.world avatar

Same. I installed textra right after and everyone will have to deal with getting SMS from me or not talking to me lol.

slurpeesoforion , (edited )

If I had wanted all the extra bull shit that came with these updates I’d have bought an iPhone.

ramjambamalam ,

Apparently Textra itself doesn’t support desktop sync like Google’s app, but there are workarounds.

However, does Textra support RCS?

kilgore_trout ,

It doesn’t support RCS because Google’s implementation of it (with encryption) is not open.

skuzz ,

What a weird evil slow burn Google is doing. AOSP used to be an entire open phone operating system for the most part, (aside from binary driver blobs and some DRM stuff) but with each passing year, they close-source everything. It used to be a big proud point Android users celebrated, “oh well I can go read my source code, unlike iOS!” Annnnd…nope.

I want a new mobile OS to replace the shit sandwich of Gappleoogle.

kilgore_trout ,

LineageOS is mostly AOSP and little Google stuff, which anyway you can remove without breaking the OS.

You can use an Android phone without reliance on Google, but it’s quite some effort and possibly invalidates warranty.

corgi ,

This doesn’t seem correct. RCS is supposed to be supported by you mobile provider, if it isn’t only then your messaging app on Android will use Google’s service. The whole protocol was meant to be open to entice companies to adopt it.

I understand Google dropped don’t be evil, but they are not a villain in every story.

RickyWars ,

Yup hate the new update. I have a weird problem with deleting words too with the backspace since the update. Will probably revert to Samsung messages soon.

Anticorp ,

That’s a setting. They probably reset your preferences. Check the analytics crap settings too, they often turn all the tracking back on with major updates.

Bibliotectress ,

YES. I’m also having backspace problems.

baduhai ,

It boggles my mind how people in the US still use SMS.

Fungah ,

I guess we cant all be enlightened enough to trust Facebook with everything.

Seasoned_Greetings ,

Based on experience dealing with people outside the US for my job, I’d say this person is implying whatsapp as the alternative.

I personally don’t see the point from within the states, given that whatsapp forces you to connect your number to it anyway.

lud ,

I use it because it is more convenient than chat apps.

It’s built-in and just works. It’s also platform independent. I only use it for family though. I use chat apps for friends because they don’t have my mobile number.

And SMS isn’t WhatsApp which is a great thing. Not that I know anyone except my mother that uses it.

Btw, I’m not in the USA.

chronicledmonocle ,

Me, using Google Voice for SMS: “Y’all have nice UIs sometimes?”

ilinamorato ,

I just want them to fix scheduled messages for crying out loud.

Scrollone ,

Damn this sucks. What are they thinking? It’s a horrible way to manage a text input

AncientJames ,

Smart compose is there for me. It looks like this bar will have more icons depending on the context and maybe more in the future.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b4f31f33-f89d-4dc2-80c6-e95bc28b01b4.png

tiredofsametab ,

Download the messaging app of your choice. Get friends to download it if they want to contact you. Use that app and too bad if no one else does shrug

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