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mrfriki , (edited ) to pcgaming in Ubisoft and NVIDIA are working together on AI-generated NPCs for upcoming games

The company with more filling content in their games meet the company most willing to sell filling content. A match made in heaven I’ll say.

PonyOfWar , to pcgaming in Ubisoft and NVIDIA are working together on AI-generated NPCs for upcoming games

Honestly one of the AI applications I see real potential in. They can train the NPCs with an extensive backstory and the interactions with them could be way more dynamic than what we currently get for NPCs. Something like a more advanced version of “Starship Titanic”, if anyone remembers that.

swab148 ,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

I still have my copy of the book!

MotoAsh ,

You are imagining a supercomputer’s LLM running an NPC.

It literally cannot be that fancy. Maybe they can fake it and fool a few rubes, but no there will be no deep characters ran by this.

PonyOfWar , (edited )

The way it works right now is usually over the cloud. I’ve already tried out a bit of “Convai” as a developer, which is a platform where you can create LLM NPCs and put them in Unreal Engine. It’s pretty neat, not perfect, but you can definitely give characters thousands of lines of backstory if you want and they will act in character. They will also remember any conversations a player had with them previously and can refer to them in later convos. Can still be fairly obvious that you’re talking to an LLM though, if you know what to ask and what to look for. Due to its cloud-based nature, there is also some delay between the player input and the response. But it has a lot of potential for dialog systems where you can do way more than just choose between 4 predefined sentences. Especially once running these things locally won’t be a performance-issue.

owen ,

I think you could make it work by giving them each a limited word pool and pre-set phrases to cover for panic/confusion

fruitycoder ,

There are a couple indies and mods working on that! The trick definitely is to lower the power needed, maybe through a series of fine gunned models (might also lower the amount anacrinisms too)

FrowingFostek , to pcgaming in Ubisoft and NVIDIA are working together on AI-generated NPCs for upcoming games

I like the idea of these companies dumping all this money into a technology to replace people, only for people to not buy the product that tried to replace people.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Honestly, companies that pull that sort of shit kinda do deserve to die

FrowingFostek ,

Yes and when real AI is developed, they won’t like what it has to say about your current economic system, so they’ll pull the plug. If this situation hasn’t already happened unbeknownst to us.

HowManyNimons ,

Ubisoft systematically abuse their human employees. Maybe this is a good use case for AI.

ILikeBoobies ,

We all know people aren’t going to turn away

FrowingFostek ,

They will, LLMs have no soul. I will always know I’m speaking to a Language model. True AI will be revolutionary, this imposter will fall flat.

PonyOfWar ,

Normal NPCs don’t have souls either TBF.

FrowingFostek ,

Right, normal NPCs are written by people.

PonyOfWar , (edited )

These NPCs would have to be written by people too. Otherwise you’d just get ChatGPT. Depending on complexity, it might even require more writing work.

FrowingFostek ,

I like to think writers pour their souls into their work. LLMs are an amalgamation of other people’s work not the work of a person creating a character. Your argument is NPCs don’t have souls, obviously that’s an objective truth. I’m just saying give me the SOUL.

PonyOfWar ,

Again, the character would still be written and defined by a human writer, pouring their soul into it just like they would a “dumb” NPC. I don’t see how that “soul” is lost by giving that human-written character the capability to naturally respond to language.

FrowingFostek ,

This is exhausting. I don’t think LLMs are capable of making a captivating enough character. Nothing I’ve seen thus far has led me to believe they have the capacity for creativity. That is what I consider soul.

Which I believe people and only people can achieve at this moment in time.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Ideally wait for it to be on sale.

Ubisoft games drop in price pretty fast.

autotldr Bot , to pcgaming in Ubisoft and NVIDIA are working together on AI-generated NPCs for upcoming games

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In the midst of all of that success, NVIDIA is working on smaller and larger initiatives, but they all seem to have one thing in common: they are AI-centered.

One of these smaller initiatives comes from Ubisoft Paris, where a small team is testing out how to use AI, specifically Nvidia’s Audio2Face application and Inworld’s Large Language Model (LLM), to try to make a new generation of NPCs.

As we see many studios, especially under Microsoft, begin to form unions, like the recent announcement from Activision QA workers, it might be possible to alleviate some of the risks around introducing AI.

This could then allow the player to have a genuine conversation of discovery that provides a bespoke unique experience but would always still be true to the human writer’s intention.

However, with the improvement of ChatGPT over time and image and video generation, there seems to be a more open mind around the idea of having some games use integrated large language models (LLMs) for NPC interactions.

There have even been mods for popular games like Grand Theft Auto 5, where you can talk to NPCs with ChatGPT running to answer queries.


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phoenixz , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

So in other words yet another thing that Linux already had for the past 20 years? Go on like this and in 50 years Microsoft might actually have a capable operating system.

Dump windows, Install Linux, stop paying Microsoft money for badly designed crap that will spy on you.

Koffiato , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

This was the pipe dream for many many years now. Not the first time MS is talking about it either.

It’s a thing in the Linux world and it’s just too costly to support and therefore most user facing distros outright don’t support it.

phoenixz ,

Orlly?

I’ve been using Linux desktop for a good 20 years now. All debian based distros (loads of them) do, all redhead based ones do, and those two together likely comprise the majority of distros.

I can’t remember the last time I rebooted my desktop (or servers, for what it matters) beyond a power outage in the office

fruitycoder ,

Do you have kernel live patching enabled?

AProfessional ,

Your updates both do not apply kernel updates but also aren’t applying in general unless you are restarting all apps, services, and sessions. Basically just reboot.

Only servers administrated well do online updates correctly.

SomeGuy69 , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

I used to want this, but the latest updates of windows have all been so buggy. I’d prefer to not have this shit happen in mid usage. They once fucked up the search by accident and it was disrupting enough to my workflow until I found ways to disable the search being a default web search.

MIDItheKID ,

It looks like it’s just security updates, not feature updates. So I would take this as a win. If a 0-day is discovered, being able to update systems to fix it without a restart is fantastic. I know plenty of people who avoid restarting their computer if they see the update icon in their system tray. If we are talking security, these people could be leaving themselves vulnerable for days/weeks. Being able to push security patches without restarts is a big win.

myxi , (edited ) to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot
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vousdew ,

Can’t tell if you’re trolling or actually that stupid.

  • Event viewer does exactly what the label says, let’s you view things. In this case, logs.
  • Is your computer on, we won’t even touch the fact that’s 100% connected to a network, then it’s vulnerable.

Let’s assuming you’re just trolling though.

myxi ,
@myxi@feddit.nl avatar

I actually meant Group Policy Editor. Sometimes I make mistakes like that. I will not dive into how precisely I made the mistake.

Coming to your second point, of course it is vulnerable, but I meant it in a practical sense. I am not here to waste time debating, so I am leaving it at that.

sugartits ,

My Windows98SE box isn’t getting updates anymore.

Do you have a fix for that?

uis , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

Haven’t everyone install linux yet?

jbk , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

So according to the official page on Hotpatching (without any trackers like in the article), this reminds me of kpatch. I guess Microsoft really wants to spend the effort of making that work. Isn’t kpatch not really supported (without $$$) by many larger distros since it’s prone to break easily?

jbk ,

I found more info: Microsoft SQL Server Engine already does hot patching and I guess the same way will be used in other MS apps: techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/…/849700

squozenode ,

Isn’t the concept of kernel live-patching just “wait until the kernel’s not using that module, and slip in anupdatesd version”

scv ,

I don’t know about Windows, on Linux it’s at the function level, and some cases are tricky.

QuaffPotions , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

I remember some years ago there was a “malware” going around that would flash OpenWRT onto people’s routers, and set them to have more secure default settings.

There should be another thing like that, but one that upgrades Windows into a Linux distro.

systemglitch ,

Yeah Linux is fun, until it breaks a week or two later. I’ll stick with windows, because it never breaks.

SavvyBeardedFish ,

Breaking Linux every week or every other week? That’s almost impressive!

nexussapphire ,

Skill issue! How is my mother better at using Linux than you?😆

nexussapphire , (edited )

He must be deleting all the weird files on the c drive. I better empty the recycle bin sudo rm -rf /bin

QuaffPotions ,

Windows never breaks? Uhhhhh, that’s definitely not true. When I have to use Windows, I brace myself every time I have to update.

lud ,

When did you last use windows, lol? Windows is pretty damn stable nowadays. I don’t think an update has ever broken my windows 10 install that is still going from 2016.

Undearius ,
@Undearius@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve gotten a number of calls from clients recently where a Windows update uninstalled the Bluetooth drivers, making their Bluetooth mouse and keyboard unusable.

I’ve even had a few where an update uninstalled the WiFi drivers so they couldn’t even download the drivers without a wired network connection.

odelik ,

Windows 10 & 11comes pre-packaged with generic wifi and bluetooth drivers that work with the vast majority of the common chipsets.

If a device has forgotten which driver it has, re-aasining the generic driver should be enough to get you operational enough to go grab any advanced drivers for extended device functionality.

Also, as an FYI, I had a fleet (~150) of decommissioned machines (probabaly 20-30 different model over 5 makes) I was converting into a Linux(Deb) distrubuted node automation farm. The amount of times I had to go find drivers (network interfaces were the cost common) that supported the hardware that Linux didn’t have default driver support for was prevelant. That was a very long 2 weeks.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

that supported the hardware that Linux didn’t have default driver support for

Curious as to which distro you were using?

(Yeah, I know, but please, humor me.)

odelik ,

Debian sever. This was early 2018 or late 2017.

systemglitch ,

It’s been about four years since windows broke on me enough to do a reinstall. Linux lasts a month with me being gentle.

It’s a no brainer.

Really_long_toes ,

I run arch BTW, 7 years throwing it down stairs, running commands that I had no idea what they did, learned linux from scratch deleting chunks of my hdd compiling and installing random software, never once had it break bad enough to reinstall . I bet you love ltt too haha… maby you should stick to a beginner os like Windows, I’ve heard Apple is even easier… or why don’t you just pay someone smarter than you to host and troubleshoot your os while they market your info and habits to the highest bidder… oh wait

systemglitch ,

I love when morons out themselves, makes blocking people like you an actual joy.

Really_long_toes ,

Oh no!.. anyway

Lucidlethargy ,

I use windows every day and I’ve never once seen it do anything wrong, ever.

Maybe it’s a skill issue?

hips_and_nips ,

Oh really, I think you and my Debian server with >10 years of uptime should have a conversation.

MajinBlayze ,

You should update your kernel at least once every 10 years

hips_and_nips , (edited )

There are some lovely tools that allow kernel updates sans reboot.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Been running Arch on my work laptop for over a year. Still waiting for the fabled difficulty and update breaks. Starting to think in modern times its perpetuated to keep people on Windows.

systemglitch ,

Must be nice. It’s been about seven years since I last dove into Linux, so maybe things have changed. But also in that time, windows became even more stable than it was, and it’s silky smooth these days.

I don’t see any benefits to even trying Linux again.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

“Please sign into your microsoft account to continue.” After entering my PIN.
Ads in the greeter.
lightdm-gtk-greeter does neither of these things.

Ads in my menu along “news and interests”
dmenu simply searches my applications.

Don’t even get me started on the themes either.

Now that proton has brought steam into the mix windows no longer makes sense for gaming rigs, only office chuds who think computers are magic.

systemglitch ,

I never see ads on windows. Maybe The were there once, but once disabled, they never came back.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Name checks out.

AceFuzzLord ,

Linux breaking depends on mostly 2 thing:

  1. The user. Depending on what they try to do, it can easily break Linux. (looking at me somehow breaking KDE Plasma and somehow fixing it without understanding how it broke or how I fixed it)
  2. Updating (from what I understand, mostly a big issue on rolling release distros like Arch or Manjaro). Bleeding edge software with major bugs the stable release don’t get can always cause instability.

Though, I will say, that I’ve never had win10 crash on me unless I have too much stuff open or am being an absolute idiot. Windows always seems to be stable, at least I’ve never had issues for a long time.

max ,

Let’s be honest though. I’m a big fan of Linux/Unix systems, but if (not saying that’s necessarily the case) a normal user can break their installation by being a normal user, it’s not suited for normal users.
Windows is a pain in the ass imo, but pretty hard for a normal user to break in my experience.

Lucidlethargy ,

Lol, I see what you did here.

I may start doing this as well… I’m SO tired of every post about Windows being flooded with Linux supremecists.

laverabe ,

I use both. Can confirm windows breaks 10x more than Debian stable.

Tbird83ii ,

Do you know what BSOD is?

systemglitch ,

Yeah, and it’s been about ten years or more since I last saw one on my PC.

RIPandTERROR ,
@RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works avatar

That is absolutely hilarious. Good guy malware swooping in and fixing people’s shit? Any chance you have a link?

RIPandTERROR ,
@RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works avatar

Gemini claims it doesn’t exist when I prompted it for finding more info, so for the sake of testing out Gemini’s capability of searching I’m doubly interested if this exists.https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/588a5e0e-00f2-4228-a541-042e1422ad45.png

Pantherina ,

Why would you send an image to gemini instead of just text? Annoy Google?

RIPandTERROR ,
@RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works avatar

Testing it’s ability to transcribe photo and recognize content

ours ,

Someone, somewhere is wondering why his CAPTCHAs are getting odly specific.

Alexstarfire ,

Well, the US government has at least twice broken into infected US devices and fixed things. IDK about installing OpenWRT but the stories have some overlap

oatscoop , (edited )
Lucidlethargy ,

Oh cool, I guess I don’t need to play all my favorite games… Most is just as good right?

You Linux Uber fans are too much sometimes.

fruitycoder ,

Sometimes people just don’t think about that people can have different wants and needs.

All, literally every game I want to play runs great in Linux, and my hobbies of self hosting, development, homelabbing, and data hoarding are all leagues better on it.

That doesn’t make a good choice for my friend that only logs on to play destiny 2. It also doesn’t matter why, to my friend, its a bad choice. It could be the devs are chained and lashed by Microsoft for even mentioning Linux in the office, but what matters to someonethatt only wants to play that game with friends is whether it works.

AProfessional ,

Steam has ~30 million users per day. Windows has over 1.5 billion installs.

Gamers really over value themselves.

phoenixz ,

And people will only notice because the ads stopped coming, because their system got secure and stable…

And they’ll still complain about THAT, for sure…

black_lugia , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

So in other words the

HI WE ARE GETTING THINGS READY FOR YOU

Screen can just pop whever it wants for 20 minutes at a time without warning? Yay…

cyberpunk007 ,

I know people don’t want to hear it anymore because it’s beating a dead horse, but… Linux.

Theharpyeagle ,

Honestly not being able to move the start bar and being told it won’t be changed because their awful new start menu needs it that way was a dealbreaker. Been running Linux Mint exclusively on my desktop for the past few months and it’s been pretty smooth, even for playing games. Thank goodness for Proton!

cyberpunk007 ,

Yup. Been using Linux as my primary desktop for years, I think I switched back to windows 2012-2015 or something, then I came back ever since. More and more games are using tools that are cross platform now too - like unity for example. I only imagine compatibility getting better. The installation experience has been better since live CDs were a thing too which is hilarious since windows still has a terrible install UI.

laverabe ,

I’ve been using both OSs for over 20 years and the ONLY reason I use windows is for CAD (just 2d). All the foss options have potential but are very poor options for a longtime autocad user. Wine implementation is currently broken/terrible. VM is sorta a fallback option but doesn’t run as fast as a native windows machine.

I plan on switching to Librecad or something similar but it’s like a 10/20 year plan and something tells me I’ll have to develop the features I want myself.

victorz ,

I don’t think those words describe what the intended behavior is, no. I think it’s supposed to be seamless and not really too noticeable. That’s the impression I got from the article anyway.

averyfalken ,

I took it to mean ittk update things in the back round like Linux can which is nice.

TDCN , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot
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Didn’t they say the same when they were developing windows 10? I don’t believe it’s gonna happen.

Cypher , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

Microsoft have done this previously and shelved it because their method had enormous security issues.

I don’t see this going well for them.

victorz ,

Isn’t it possible they could learn from their mistakes? Just playing devil’s advocate here.

Blackmist , to technology in Microsoft wants to update your Windows 11 PC without forcing you to reboot

Had a movie stop playing the other week (I use my PC as a Jellyfin server and watch on a Nvidia Shield in another room). I thought something had crashed, but when I went upstairs to check, it had realised nobody was watching it and fucking rebooted.

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

you should probably use a different operating system if you use it as a server

Blackmist ,

If it was only used as a server, then I would. But it isn’t, so I don’t.

cyberpunk007 ,

I use a Manjaro box to game on. And video edit with davinci resolve. And so everything else that I do. Truenas for my NAS.

lud ,

Or use Windows server. It would never do shit like that.

Alternatively you could just not postpone updates for weeks.

Just update your computers and this will never happen.

Lucidlethargy ,

It’s really not a good idea to have a home server you don’t update, assuming it’s accessible outside your network.

Windows updates suck, but they can be delayed to only take place every 6-8 weeks.

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

that wasn't what I was saying

Moneo ,

They are probably using their main desktop as their jellyfin server.

cyberpunk007 ,

Linux. Bsd. Etc.

dev_null ,

Living room PC is also used for playing VR games (since living room has the space required). Sadly Windows is the only option.

InFerNo ,

Pure curiosity, I don’t own VR gear, does the Linux steam version not have VR?

dev_null , (edited )

Steam itself does support VR on Linux, but most of the actual hardware (like Meta headsets) don’t have drivers for Linux. The ones that do (Valve Index) are buggy, but not unusable. But even then it doesn’t get you far, because 90% of VR games won’t run on Linux, even with Proton.

So Steam is not the problem. Hardware support and developer support is the problem. Can’t really blame developers for not caring, even if they make their VR game work on Linux almost no one would be able to play it anyway, so why bother. It won’t get anywhere unless hardware manufactures start making actual drivers for their headsets on Linux. Meta practically controls the market and they don’t care, so here we are.

RawrGuthlaf ,

A Steamlink app was added to the Meta store recently. It supposedly allows playing streamed desktop VR. I have been meaning to try it with Steam on my Linux desktop, so I can’t really vouch for it yet, it could just not work. And who knows if Proton works for any specific VR games.

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