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uninvitedguest , to linux_gaming in NVIDIA First To Offer Driver Support For New Vulkan H.265 & H.264 Video Encode Extensions
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I’ve never looked at a wccftech comment section before. What the heck is going on there?

Hairyblue OP ,
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I looked at it but looks like people being silly with each other. Not sure.

absentbird , to linux_gaming in NVIDIA First To Offer Driver Support For New Vulkan H.265 & H.264 Video Encode Extensions
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AMD RADV & ANV are also adding support for the newly released Vulkan Video Extensions… The Open-source drivers already support Vulkan Video decode extensions and will be getting Vulkan video encode extensions too with the latest update.

Great news.

acosmichippo , to games in Rumored Nintendo Switch Flash Cart Video Shows Multiple Games on a Single Cart
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

why not just use an SD card?

escew ,

Interestingly there appears to be an SD card in the cart they’re putting in the switch.

jackoneill ,

That sounds like an SD card with extra steps

Brokkr ,

Kind of is, but it probably gets around some of the security that Nintendo puts on running games from the SD card.

Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug ,

It’s an SD card with less steps, actually.

caseyweederman ,

Fewer, unless you’re measuring steps in volume, as in “these steps go up to eleven”

tarmac ,

This sounds like it’ll be able to run home brew apps. Like R4 for DS.

aniki ,

I was just looking at my R4 powered DS. Memories…

csolisr ,

Not sure if running from the cart slot is permitted to even detect anything not properly signed by Nintendo. Which means this one is squarely for “backups” and nothing else.

caseyweederman ,

That wouldn’t be a product, though.
This must bypass protections, or it wouldn’t offer any advantage over the existing microSD card slot.

csolisr ,

It does have a specific niche: users of OLED models that just want to play “backups” and don’t want to bother soldering chips to their products. A few people will like the hassle-free multicarts.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Just using an SD card requires modding your Switch to run homebrew and, er, “backups,” right?

A properly constructed cartridge that can masquerade as a retail Switch cartridge would make owners who aren’t willing to modify their console very happy indeed. That’s how the various NDS/3DS carts work – just plug and play (literally).

Marsupial ,
@Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

Soft modding requires a 5c plastic part off eBay, it’s already safe enough to do and requires no modifications.

But a flashcart is far simpler.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

I thought that only worked on older models before 2018?

NinjaTeensy ,

Yes, basically only switches made in the first year can be hacked (without soldering).

csolisr ,

Correct! The newer models (including all OLED versions) were already patched from the factory (or more accurately, redesigned to prevent the soft-mod from working).

sebinspace ,

You need a lot of asterisks on that statement…

echo64 ,

It’s for pirating games

errer ,

Nintendo loves making us pay for their games multiple times over on every console release, so fuck ‘em.

otp ,

I don’t seem to recall Nintendo making me pay anything for something I didn’t want.

I’m 100% in favour of emulation and whatnot, but I don’t understand what your problem is.

Remakes, re-releases and ports? What’s the big deal? If you had BotW on the WiiU, don’t buy it on the Switch. TotK came out on the Switch, so they’re still releasing new games.

Again, I love the emulation scene and I know piracy is important for game preservation. I don’t understand what your complaint is, though…

partial_accumen , (edited )

why not just use an SD card?

Because then you could buy any old SD card and Nintendo makes no money from you. This way Nintendo can sell you the same NAND flash except wrapped in a propriety Nintendo container with the multiple orders of magnitude price increase to pad the bottom line. They can also pursue you for civil or criminal charges if you attempt to break into the container of flash charging you with copyright infringement and attempted hacking.

Edit: ignore my post. Its not a Nintendo first party product.

MossyFeathers ,

None of what you said makes any sense. Do you even know what a flash cart is?

Kraiden ,

Lol, you've made some assumptions there. It's not a Nintendo product. Nintendo would NEVER release any kind of flash cart themselves, as they're begging to be used for pirated games.

Everything you've said about game carts are basically why we'll never see an officially licensed product like this from Big N themselves.

With that in mind, it still makes no sense as a product because you can run games off the SD card already (I assume. Very out of touch with Switch hacks)

partial_accumen ,

Lol, you’ve made some assumptions there. It’s not a Nintendo product.

You’re absolutely right. I saw the headline and responded. I withdraw my statement.

didnt_readit ,

It makes perfect sense as a product because running game backups off an SD card without any hardware modding only works on the oldest console version. If you have a Lite or OLED (or even just the patched original model) you need a mod chip which is not an easy install.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

For a newer switch and lite model you need to solder a chip on it first.

FangedWyvern42 ,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

That’s what a flashcart is. It’s a cartridge with an SD card in it, which has game ROMs on it. You can see a microSD card in the flashcart in the video.

graymess , to games in Rumored Nintendo Switch Flash Cart Video Shows Multiple Games on a Single Cart

Based on what I know of the Switch homebrew scene, I cannot fathom how this would work. Any ideas?

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

This is precisely why everyone is so skeptical of it.

SomethingBurger ,

In the video that was posted, the user testing the card is manually inserting and removing the card in order to cycle through the different games on the cart.

It appears it cannot run unsigned code, as it doesn’t have a menu. This is probably similar to the Sky3DS. It behaves like a real cartridge, so it would only run pirated cartridges. No DLC or homebrew.

caseyweederman ,

Don’t cartridges have unique IDs though? They could just start disabling cartridges by ID and banning any accounts that run them.

Kolanaki ,
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So like how they tried and failed to stop Tengen back in the day with their unlicensed NES carts?

sebinspace , to games in Rumored Nintendo Switch Flash Cart Video Shows Multiple Games on a Single Cart

Only a matter of time before another vulnerability is found.

Mandy , to games in The Day Before Offline Mod in the Works For Those Still Interested in Playing This Troubled Game

The fact someone finds it valuable enough to make this mod at all just is further proof that most people have no damn standards and just willingly spread their cheeks for this dystopian nightmare of an industry.

Gonzako ,

We don’t know what the future might find valuable so we might as well make an effort to conserve everything we can.

RedWeasel , to technology in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects

Wouldn’t have “Sume” been better than “Suyu”?

iSeth ,

Doubt it. Sume (pronounced sue-may) has little ring to it. Suyu sounds like “Nintendo will sue you”.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I would’ve gone with yuja, which is the Korean term for yuzu.

ceiphas , to technology in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects

wow, they “killed” an open source project… did they really think it was that easy?

Sakychu ,

I mean they also got 2.4 mil and they can continue collecting them from new projects

catloaf ,

They haven’t gotten the money yet, and they probably never will get the full amount.

They probably won’t even be taking anyone else to court, either. Ryujinx will probably make major changes or shut down entirely to avoid getting sued in the first place.

kratoz29 ,

and they probably never will get the full amount.

Why do you say this?

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I’m guessing the project was run as an LLC and the LLC will just go bankrupt.

Moonrise2473 ,

That’s on paper. It’s extremely unlikely that they set an LLC with millions of dollars in assets. The reason they set up the LLC was that if they got sued they could settle for any amount, knowing that they would just declare bankruptcy and pay nothing except their legal fees (which, having settled immediately, are very low)

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

It possibly seeing a legal precedent is the scary part.

noyou ,

Settling out of court is not setting a legal precedent

sugar_in_your_tea ,

And that’s probably why Yuzu didn’t stand up to Nintendo. They probably had enough areas for Nintendo to attack that fighting it could leave the emulator community worse off if it goes to trial. Why risk the money to fight something unless you’re sure you can win?

noyou ,

Maybe. My guess is they just didn’t want to go through the trouble, since it would have been a long war.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

The main developers won’t be touching it. That’s a pretty big deal since they were the lifeblood of the project.

Potentially recoverable, but still a big deal.

Second. There’s no chance that a “reputable” site. Like GitHub, gitlab, etc will be hosting any of these projects for long. That’s significant too.

toastal ,

“reputable”

Projects like this should be self-hosted & encourage contributors to set up their own self-hosted mirrors to make sure the code is both distributed & decentralized which users/makers have full control over their platform.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Yeah it kinda is. You can fork projects all day but assembling a team of intelligent and motivated individuals to actually maintain the project is a whole other problem. Add to that the fear of litigation and multi-million dollar lawsuits and I’d say Switch emulation will be all but dead in the near future.

Cwilliams , to technology in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects

Suyu, as in “Sue you”?

4am ,

Just like Apple’s “Sosumi” sound back in the day

RobotToaster , (edited ) to technology in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

cut off one head and two more grow back in it’s place.

SomeBoyo , to piracy in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects

A hydra never dies

LazaroFilm , to piracy in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like this lawsuit was a real Streisand effect for Nintendo. Now everyone know there’s a way to emulate the Switch.

echo64 ,

Honestly, anyone that was gonna emulate switch already knew, and nintendo has all their big hitters out of the way so isn’t going to be loosing much in terms of sales to piracy at this point. they just want a chilling effect for switch 2

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Doesn’t seem like they’re gonna get the effect they were hoping for; Yuzu’s corpse isn’t even cold yet and there’s already a successor.

echo64 ,

Yeah, I think the ‘successors’ are still in dmca violation (at least one not sure about the other). But it’s still early days, anyway. Yuzu was successful because of the dedicated team behind it. Just setting up other repos doesn’t mean much yet. It’s gonna take months to see how things shake out.

But you can’t deny the potential chilling effect of it all. Nintendo has shown that they will come for you.

TheYang ,
@TheYang@lemmy.world avatar

But they also showed with what they will come for you.
If you outsource decryption from emulation, they can’t do it (this way) again

JoeKrogan ,
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

All we are seeing so far is updates to the read me files let’s see how we are in a few weeks.

It is the domain expertise that will really set things back. The citra/yuzu devs have to stay away from emulation so the new teams won’t have the same understanding and will be less effective. It is so specialized that I’m not sure how anyone can just jump in and pick it up.

I’m rooting for them anyway. They need to let go of discord either way , matrix private chats with encryption for dev communications.

PopOfAfrica , (edited )

If I had to guess the reason they’re going after yuzu so hard is that the Switch 2 is going to be architecturally identical and that you will be able to run Switch 2 games.

kworpy ,

It sure as fuck was. Half of the Nintendo community knows about this situation, and unless for some reason they still have respect for this evil company, they will now freely play whatever switch games they want without giving Nintendo a dime.

I’m sure most Nintendo “fans” aren’t a fan of the company itself, just the games

victron ,
@victron@programming.dev avatar

I think you underestimate the level of fanatism of many of those fellas, they would give Nintendo their first born if they had one.

TrickDacy ,

I think you over estimate it. I have loved Nintendo games since I was five, but absolutely fuck the company for doing shit like this.

CleoTheWizard ,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah it doesn’t take a genius to hate Nintendo for simple things like artificially limiting amibos stock to make more money

maynarkh ,

I’m sure most Nintendo “fans” aren’t a fan of the company itself, just the games

I think being a fan of any company is weird. I mean products, sure, there are good ones, some are definitely works of art. But companies?

current ,

It genuinely surprises me the amount of diehard nintendo fans who will defend the corporation’s heinous acts tooth and nail that there are. They make good games, and they were my childhood, therefore their wrongs are excusable (or not wrongs at all)!

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sure most Nintendo “fans” aren’t a fan of the company itself, just the games

Yup. I like their games and hate their business practices. Also been pirating their games since the 90s.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

And the subsequent C&Ds/lawsuits to the idiots who are “forking” the tainted codebase will do an even better job of explaining “you fuck with Nintendo and we will literally own you for the rest of your life”

That also assumes the various projects have competent developers (unlikely since anyone with the technical ability knows why you don’t touch this code) and isn’t just a way to rush in some crypto miners and spyware to people who are mad they can’t have yuzu.

PopOfAfrica ,

What I don’t understand is why developers ever put their names to projects like this. Create the project and distribute it via peer to peer

NuXCOM_90Percent , (edited )

Because this is generally hundreds, if not thousands, of years hours of their life.

Part of it is wanting to get some degree of recognition for that. Part of it is that this is very much part of their portfolio for future jobs searches.

SexualPolytope ,
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Are you an elf? We humans usually don’t live that long.

_sora ,

@NuXCOM_90Percent @PopOfAfrica both recognition and showing the project in a portfolio and even receiving donations are more that possible using an alias. I don't see any point at all in exposing yourself like that, specially when emulators are legal and your only threat, a single company with way too many lawyers, can be almost completely avoided by not saying the name on your ID and where are you currently living

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

Yes. I am sure someone could set up multiple shell corporations in different countries and receive all their money in crypto that goes through multiple tumblers. Sure. Regardless, this is not the board to really argue about people being compensated for their labor.

But I will say this. If a person I am interviewing talks about how they can show me the code they have worked on in their spare time but that I cannot ever tell anyone that they wrote it and it is on a different github account and blah blah blah: I am noping the fuck out of that conversation before I need to ask HR what my obligation is to report criminal activity.

_sora ,

@NuXCOM_90Percent WOW you didn't read my comment at all. First of all, you are exaggerating the level of secrecy needed for getting money here. Nintendo isn't gonna get the fucking FBI to search for where does the money end (and that's assuming you're from USA, good luck finding out where I'm from), so using any cripto currency and a crypto mixer should be enough. As long as you don't move obscene amounts of money (which you won't get from this alone), you should be good by just being officially a freelancer on your country.

And, again, EMULATION IS LEGAL, AND LITERALLY NO ONE CARES EXCEPT NINTENDO. If you go to a company and show you're the developer of a successful piece of FOSS, they will literally just don't give a shit how your account is named or if nintendo likes it or not. If you can't understand that emulation is legal just keep shouting to a wall.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

So… because this is 100% legal, people should… hide their name and run shell companies?

Because patreon tends to give a shit who they are mailing the check to.They won’t just leave it taped to a wall outside the local Denny’s and not ask questions about who picks it up. Shell companies can help with obfuscating that.

Relying on crypto DRASTICALLY reduces the likelihood people will make any donations to you. And is still incredibly easy to track, even through tumblers (there is a reason graph algorithms are such a hot topic and it isn’t just twitter).

Because, you are right: Emulation is legal (if you thread the needle). Which is why people who spend thousands of hours writing cool software put their name on it. Rather than jump through all these hoops and make themselves look like criminals.

Tarquinn2049 ,

Most emulation projects are completely legal and something to be proud of. And it’s some of the technically most challenging problem solving that coders could have on their resume. Making a good emulator is incredibly impressive. You very much can get a job based on that.

merthyr1831 ,

Nintendo knows this, but it was an easy $2.3 million and now Yuzu development is essentially halted for the time being, meaning slower progress with switch updates, releases, and new hardware (eg switch 2).

Any victory for the FOSS/emulation community is a pyrrhic one.

samus12345 , (edited )
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I was already emulating, but I prefer to play on a TV so I still bought games for my launch Switch. I was waiting for their next console before I jailbroke it, but annoyance with Nintendo for doing this pushed me to do it this past weekend. Now they’ll get no more sales from me on the Switch guaranteed.

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

I play switch games on my TV with my Steam Deck docked :) much better than just a switch.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

A good option if you have a Steam Deck!

Flax_vert ,

Yeah. I didn’t even know it was possible to do in a comfortable capacity

Da_Boom ,
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Yes it was, but in some ways Nintendo still succeeded In what I believe is their goal - to scatter the developers.

By shutting down Yuzu, they fragmented everyone into forking their own copies and competing to become the next Yuzu.

What’s more of a threat to them? One emulator with thousands of contributors, or 1000 emulators with 2-5 contributors each?

The best thing about open source is the pooling of developers and resources. While forking is neither a good nor a bad thing, it does tend to break up the developer pool.

It could take anywhere from months to years if at all for everyone to finally settle on a single fork and get back to the level of developer pool that originally existed - then if that happens, Nintendo can come along and do it all over again, at least untill they don’t see the value in continuing.

Helix , to technology in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects

which one do I download for Arch?

WallEx , to piracy in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects

Let’s go, as if this was ever going to work.

NocturnalMorning , (edited ) to piracy in Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects

You should really probably keep this on the DL. No reason to shut the project down regardless of what Nintendo does, but this needs to be done quietly now since it’s gotten a ton of attention.

Edit: Just bcz, fuck you nintendo, I’m never buying your consoles again. You lost any remaining sliver of goodwill you had with this move.

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