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gencha , to linuxmemes in I respect people who don't like snaps, but Canonical will not abandon a successful project

If you don’t like snaps, don’t use the distribution by the company who tries to establish them.

barsquid ,

And also warn newcomers not to invest time into those distros.

haui_lemmy ,

Exactly. I hope pop moves away from ubuntu at some point though.

jj4211 , (edited )

I agree, have seen so many people trying to document how to “desnap” Ubuntu and wondered why bother, you are fighting against what is now the whole point of Ubuntu while trying to use Ubuntu while so many other options exist.

I do happily encourage folks to explain why they left Ubuntu behind as I did (snaps). No confusion, just a reiteration of disappointment that they went from being my favorite distro to completely off my list with the snap stuff.

bjoern_tantau , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I guess they are not using php.

First time I encountered a Y2038 bug in the wild. And apparently they still did not fix it for some inane reason.

Moonrise2473 ,

There’s a long time to 2038, we can start to find solutions around the years 2026-2037

manucode , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...
@manucode@infosec.pub avatar

Otto.de is a big German online retailer.

FQQD ,
@FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz avatar

Bought a table from them once. Was not a good table.

barsoap ,

Bought a table from IKEA once, was not a good table either. You get what you pay for.

mxl ,

I worked for them once. Was not a good experience.

marcos , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...

There isn’t any reason for a site to limit the lifetime of most cookies. I have no idea why that field isn’t optional.

Get an extension that will erase the cookies that you don’t care about, do not abide by everything anybody on the web asks you for. And yeah, get an ad-blocker.

hydroptic , (edited )

At least here in the EU the ePrivacy directive and to a lesser extent the GDPR generally require that cookies have a limited lifetime depending on their function, to eg. prevent companies just attaching a stable identifier to every random passerby essentially forever. @Sunny, if you’re feeling particularly mildly infuriated you could email the German Data Protection Authority, there’s a good chance the cookie could attract the Eye of Sauron

Sunny OP ,

I’m not annoyed, I’m not using this VPN service, only doing research. However, I would appreciate it if you could link me to what you refer to with GDPR and ePrivacy setting a limited cookie lifetime!

hydroptic ,

Sure! This page has some general info: gdpr.eu/cookies/

The directive itself is kind of involved because it goes pretty deep into what its aim is and eg. what sort of information can be considers an identifier, and it’s actually quite well argued and worth a read if that sort of thing is your, er, thing: eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX… (you need to scoll aaalll the way down to be able to show the body text). I had to deal with this stuff professionally when I was a CTO for a company with some stricter than average privacy requirements due to the field, and I was pleasantly surprised to find out how much sense ePrivacy and GDPR actually make

Sunny OP ,

Ayy thanks a lot for that, much appreciated! Have a great day 🌻

FMEEE ,

Jes but the company showed in OPs Image is a cookie of a German company. Otto de is like a German Amazon. And it is a GmbH so it’s probably registered in Germany.

hydroptic ,

Which is why I said to contact the German DPA

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I have no idea why that field isn’t optional.

It is. But leaving it off means that the cookie will be removed when the browser is shut down.

joewilliams007 , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...
@joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org avatar

browsers by default wont allow infinite cookies

Sunny OP ,

Which is great, but do you know if that the case for Android apps too? As that is the case in this scenario?

joewilliams007 ,
@joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org avatar

how do you mean so? as in it's a web app? They have access to persistant storage.

Sunny OP ,

I wasnt thinking clearly… Somehow was thinking they stored cookies outside the browser, then I realised thats not how it works :P Thanks for pointing it out, ill try to find out the default values for cookie-lifetime across browsers next :)

joewilliams007 ,
@joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org avatar

okay:)

PostnataleAbtreibung , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...

It is just a sketchy online company. You shootouts never buy there.

barsoap ,

OTTO is an age-old German mail order company, they started up in 1949. About 16bn yearly revenue. Second largest online retailer overall in Germany after amazon, larger than amazon in Europe when it comes to clothing. Which TBH actually surprised me I thought zalando had that one nailed down.

They also own their own parcel service (Hermes). Are they sketchy? Yes, I mean they’re turbo capitalists so of course they are. More so than amazon, nope.

PostnataleAbtreibung ,

They were, like Quelle, one of those mail order companies well before Internet and Amazon. They were once even quite acceptable.

They turned to the very worst, though. If you have a problem, then YOU have the problem. Parcel missing? Well, good luck. Goods are damaged? Nope.

knolord ,

Wait, they own Hermes? That explains quite a lot…

Gullible , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...

GmbH has been shitting up the web for ~20 years now. First tracking cookie I ever blocked.

isVeryLoud ,

…you do know what GmbH stands for, right?

It’s like LLC or Corp.

Gullible ,

I’ll take that information to the atm machine.

boyi ,

Hmm… the username. They know.

Sunny OP ,

FYI, GmbH isnt a specific company. GmbH is a German abbreviation, but in English refers to “company with limited liability”.

Gullible ,

I know, I’m just joking about the way windows vista used to name tracking cookies. Rather, how sites named their tracking cookies. Given the replies, I take it no one else found it as funny as I used to.

isVeryLoud ,

Thanks for the context, I wasn’t aware, that’s pretty funny!

Sunny OP ,

Also wasnt aware of this context, too young i guess :P

FQQD ,
@FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz avatar

Frrr, boycott GmbH 🔥🔥

cmbabul , to linuxmemes in I respect people who don't like snaps, but Canonical will not abandon a successful project

What’s wrong with being Robert Baratheon

UckyBon ,

He downloaded Snaps and ate them.

pc36 ,

He downloaded a snap while drunk…and we know what happens from there …

embed_me ,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

That reminds me…

I miss those Robert Baratheon memes from the freefolk sub

cmbabul ,

We all miss the sentient bobby_b bot

picnic , to linuxmemes in I respect people who don't like snaps, but Canonical will not abandon a successful project

So, I used ubuntu for pretty close to 20 years and it was my go to distro. I have had hundreds upon hundreds of servers running ubuntu.

Last few years I’ve been moving away from ubuntu because of their lack of respect for their core users. They have no clear vision and when they do, its a magnificently shitty one like the donkey balls decision to enfrorce snap on everything.

I will still have some ubuntu servers to take care of, but every new server I set up will be fedora.

Because fuck snaps, thats why

platypus_plumba ,

I had like 4 snaps installed in my system and it was hogging like 60Gb of storage. What the actual fuck.

I wish I kept the names of the dependencies, I just ran a command to remove all snaps and the snap itself.

Am I talking bullshit here? I saw my disk drop 60gb after I did that but I have no evidence.

CarbonatedPastaSauce , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...

If you don’t have your browser set to delete all cookies you haven’t made exceptions for, every time you close it, I don’t know what to tell you. Except… “you should do that”.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Why?

fuzzy_feeling ,

otherwise cookies might stay on your computer for 9993 years.

NeatNit ,

I guarantee that they won’t stay for that long on my computer.

Edit: nor yours, or anyone else’s

AProfessional ,

The maximum age is 400 days in Chrome.

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

Privacy. By using containers and deleting cookies frequently, you can minimize the amount of tracking and data collecting these scum sucking corpos are doing.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but what about the other 99% of cookie use cases?

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

You add an exception to your browser to not delete them for that domain, if you need the cookie for the website to function.

That way your sites keep working, and everyone else putting shit in your browser gets their stuff deleted.

DreamlandLividity ,

I use Firefox temporary containers. So not only are they deleted 5 mins after I close a tab, but different tabs don’t share cookies unless I explicitly allow it or the tabs are opened from one source (e.g. open link in new tab)

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Sounds good. Is that an option on desktop and mobile as well? Do I need addons?

DreamlandLividity ,

It does not seem available on mobile. On desktop, it is an extension called “Temporary Containers”. You may also want the official “Firefox Multi-Account Containers” for managing sites where you want to stay logged in.

barsoap , to mildlyinfuriating in The Duration Time on this Cookie...

Speaking about sketchy and durations…

The certificate for slrpnk.net expired on 5/6/2024.

Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE

Legend ,

How is that relevant here tho ? Not trying to be rude i just don’t get it .

barsoap ,

OP fixed their certificate in the meantime so now I can actually see the image (without jumping through hoops to make firefox ignore the certificate error).

3650000 days looks like a honest mistake, should probably be exactly one year. Which is long, but not an eternity.

Sunny OP ,

Not sure I’m following the issue with slrpnk.net cert, it’s up to date my end. 5/6/2024 hasn’t been yet… so its not expired hah.

I don’t think 3650000 is a typo, that’s four zeros away from being a year. Additionally, many of these cookies have a duration ranging from a few days all the way to 10 years or more.

barsoap ,

5/6/2024 hasn’t been yet… so its not expired hah.

The current certificate is valid from Mon, 06 May 2024 07:58:01 GMT to Sun, 04 Aug 2024 07:58:00 GMT, it has been renewed today. Click on the padlock on the address bar and click your way through to see those dates. Renewal was probably automatic, in any case there was enough of a lapse for me to stumble across the error.

I don’t think 3650000 is a typo, that’s four zeros away from being a year.

Then where does the “365” come from? That’s some highly specific digits.

Sunny OP ,

I agree that it is an abnormal at least, it might not be meant to be 3650000, but thats what it says it is… Here is the full list if you want a peek at what I gathered yesterday. The formatting isnt great as it is taking from a spreadsheet.

TCF Vendor / AD Partner Name Longest Cookie Duration (days) Longest Retenion Time by Vendor
Exponential Interactive Inc d/b/a VDX.tv 90 397
Roq.ad GmbH 365 365
Index Exchange Inc. 1825 90
Quantcast 3650 395
BeeswaxlO Corporation 395 4320
Sovrn, Inc. 365 180
Adikteev n/a 730
RTB House S.A. 365 565
The UK Trade Desk Ltd 3629 365
admetrics GmbH n/a 365
Nexxen Inc. 180 400
Epsilon 184 3285
Yahoo EMEA Limited 750 400
ADventori SAS 90 400
TripleLift, Inc. 90 52
Xandr, Inc. 90 180
NEORY GmbH 90 90
Nexxen Group LLC 365 400
NEURAL.ONE 365 90
ADITION (Virtual Minds GmbH) 365 90
Active Agent (Virtual Minds GmbH) 365 90
Taboola Europe Limited 366 396
Equativ 396 40
Adform A/S 3650 60
Magnite, Inc. 1825 28
RATEGAIN ADARA INC 730 730
Sift Media, Inc n/a 1
Rakuten Marketing LLC 730 2555
Lumen Research Limited n/a n/a
Amazon Ad Server 396 396
Openx 365 90
Yieldlab (Virtual Minds GmbH) 365 30
Roku Advertising Services 396 540
Nano Interactive Group Ltd. n/a 730
Simplifi Holdings LLC 366 4320
PubMatic, Inc 1800 40
Comscore B.V. 720 90
Flashtalking 730 730
PulsePoint, Inc. 365 366
Smaato, Inc. 21 14
Semasio GmbH 366 180
Crimtan Holdings Limited 365 1095
Genius Sports UK Limited 365 365
Criteo SA 390 390
Adloox SA n/a 396
Blis Global Limited 400 400
Lotame Solutions, Inc 274 396
LiveRamp 3653 365
GroupM UK Limited 395 2
LoopMe Limited 90 396
Dynata LLC 365 730
Ask Locala n/a 45
Azira n/a 365
DoubleVerify Inc. n/a 31
BIDSWITCH GmbH 365 365
IPONWEB GmbH 365 365
Sunny OP ,

It continues;

TCF Vendor / AD Partner Name Longest Cookie Duration (days) Longest Retenion Time by Vendor
NextRoll, Inc. 183 365
Teads France SAS 365 120
Stréer SSP GmbH (SSP) 365 730
OS Data Solutions GmbH & Co. KG 90 730
Permodo GmbH n/a 90
Platform161 B.V. 396 390
Adacado Technologies Inc. (DBA Adacado) 365 395
Basis Global Technologies, Inc. 365 540
SMADEX, S.L.U. 365 365
Bombora Inc. 365 730
EASYmedia GmbH 365 365
Remerge GmbH n/a 365
advanced store GmbH 365 60
Magnite CTY, Inc. 366 28
Delta Projects AB 360 547
usemax advertisement (Emego GmbH) 365 90
emetriq GmbH 1825 180
Publicis Media GmbH 1825 730
M.D. Primis Technologies Ltd. 25 30
OneTag Limited 730 548
Cloud Technologies S.A. 365 365
Smartology Limited n/a 30
Improve Digital 90 90
Adobe Advertising Cloud 730 760
Bannerflow AB 366 30
TabMo SAS n/a 60
Integral Ad Science (incorporating ADmantx) n/a 30
Wizaly 365 1095
Weborama 393 395
Jivox Corporation 365 30
Sage+Archer BV n/a n/a
On Device Research Limited 30 90
Rockabox Media Ltd n/a 3
Exactag GmbH 1825 210
Celtra Inc. 90 365
mainADV Srl 30 90
Gemius SA 1825 1827
The Kantar Group Limited 914 4320
Nielsen Media Research Ltd. 3650 45
Solocal SA 403 4320
Pixalate, Inc. 728 61
Oracle Advertising 180 30
Numberly 180 183
AudienceProject A/S 365 1826
Demandbase, Inc. 730 390
Effiliation / Effinity 30 30
Arrivalist Co. 365 2555
Seenthis AB n/a n/a
Commanders Act 365 730
travel audience GmbH 397 397
HUMAN n/a 1095
Adludio Ltd. n/a 30
Blendee srl 366 180
Innovid LLC 90 365
Papirfly AS n/a 4320
Neustar, Inc., a TransUnion company 365 540
Verve Group Europe GmbH n/a 4320
Otto (GmbH & Co KG) 3650000 731
Adobe Audience Manager, Adobe Experience Platform 180 n/a
Localsensor B.V. n/a 31
Online Solution 365 30
Relay42 Netherlands B.V. 730 1096
GP One GmbH 300 90
The MediaGrid Inc. 365 365
MindTake Research GmbH n/a 180
Cint AB 730 366
Google Advertising Products 396 548
GfK GmbH 730 720
Sunny OP ,

It still continues;

TCF Vendor / AD Partner Name Longest Cookie Duration (days) Longest Retenion Time by Vendor
GfK GmbH 730 720
Revjet 730 90
Protected Media LTD n/a 365
Clinch Labs LTD 730 730
Oracle Data Cloud - Moat n/a 365
Hearts and Science Munchen GmbH 60 45
Amazon Advertising 396 395
Moloco, Inc. 730 730
Adtriba GmbH 730 730
Objective Partners BV 90 120
Ensighten 1825 1095
eBay Inc 90 1095
Hurra Communications GmbH 366 396
Sunny OP ,

I probably should have linked a spreadsheet or sumthin instead 😅

lars ,

Please Lemmy know if you do 🐭

catharso , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

[ ] Yes

[ ] No

[x] Maybe

Blaze ,
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

I don’t knooow

Can you repeat the question

lowleveldata ,
0x0 ,

You’re not the boss of me now!

Legend ,

He was before ? Also are you looking for a boss replacement ?

Catoblepas ,

Shit, it might be time for a MitM rewatch to see if it’s still aged like a fine wine.

technomad , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

Yes. I think it would be helpful.

DieguiTux8623 , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?

Personally, I would be in favor of having polls because I frequently involve people in taking decisions.

But my use case is quite peculiar because (1) I need to know people’s opinion to take actions based on it, they would not be just informative polls (2) this group of people use Lemmy as their main interaction medium, no other platform is involved.

I’ve resorted to strawpoll in the past or in having comments with multiple options and relying on the most upvoted comment but these solutions have downsides.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@reddthat.com avatar

Thank you for your work on Raccoon btw

Legend ,

Yeah really good app . Shame its not on the fdroid official repo tho .

Carighan , to fediverse in Would Lemmy Benefit from Implementing Polls?
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

[x] Blurgenfurl

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