My dad has a friend who is like 65. I lives quite isolated. He's not dumb or anything at all, but he only talks to maybe 6 people and 4 of them are alcoholics and almost as sheltered as he is. The other day i went by because my dad asked me to help him.bwe talked for a bit and he said his knee is fucked but don't want t o do anything about it. I just shrugged and said that everything involving knee or hip surgery is scary. Hell, every surgery is pretty scary. Somehow the conversation (obviously) pivot towards covid. And he said he'll never get another vaccine in his life, because it was a plot from the higher ups, covid is made to kill people but it didn't kill enough. What struck me the most was he kinda saw that i didn't cared abd disagreed, so he quickly said: it's not just me, many people are saying it. Yeah sure, but i also know the people you hang out with who are "saying it" and who have "theories".
That is the guy on the internet, who doesn't even has the internet.
Spot the Brit?
Not sure which other countries have 3y bachelor’s degrees and will let you do a PhD without a master’s degree and also have 3y doctorate degrees
Not usually for STEM in America, but we also don’t require a masters degree for PhD.
Still for most people in my program, it was 4 years of undergrad, followed by 2-4 years in a lab, then 5-7 years for a PhD, then another 2-5 years for post-doc, then finally get hired.
Assuming you get hired after “only” your first postdoc:-). Some people do two or even three of those (though two longer ones can take more time overall than three shorter ones). And yet you hear of people that manage it even then, especially if there is even a temporary upswing somewhere e.g. a “cluster hire”.
These days it seems difficult to speak of what is “standard” b/c the rules seem to have changed radically since the Tea Party rose to power, and rather than things returning to “normal” after the various recessions semi-recently, they instead seem to be shifting to an entirely different state altogether.
It is so bad that a huge fraction of people getting PhDs won’t find jobs in the same specialty area - e.g. physics has been notorious for this for decades already, even though someone trained in that rigorous discipline often has little trouble moving to another area where they are often in high demand:-).
The length/number of post-docs scales directly with your start up costs.
Need a computer and a desk? You can go on the market right after your PhD or one post-doc. Need seven figures of equipment plus animal space? Don’t expect to get a job until you’re pushing forty.
Committees want to see a strong funding track record before they make that kind of investment
Meh, would it not depend more on the saturation of the field? Like a physicist may literally only need a computer and desk (and a small salary, supported by teaching), while a biologist might need lets say contracting funds to do DNA sequencing, and yet even in that scenario the latter might still find a job more readily than the former? Though heavily influenced by factors such as willingness to move to elsewhere especially another country.
Additionally which (sub-)field someone is in has implications for how readily available even small amounts of funds are, especially if the various committees are using the hiree to obtain funds from a known source?
Where do you need a Masters to attain a PhD? Honest question, I just never heard of it before.
My wife attained her MD/PhD from the University of Chicago/Pritzker and does not have a Masters. She’s on the MD/PhD committee for her university and they do not require anything other than a BS in the field of study.
With that said, it probably isn’t much of a stretch to just get a Masters in the way to a PhD.
Me? I’m depriving some poor village of its idiot. I have a BS and that’s it.
Definitely depends on the field. Most “humanities” studies require a masters first, although for that reason many PhD programs include the step of getting your masters so it can all be done as a single track. So still a standard ~6 year program but you get both, masters after the first 3 and then PhD after 3 more. I’ve only ever run with folks in humanities I’m realizing, so I didn’t even realize there were PhDs you could get without a masters
In the EU it’s usually like that. 3 years for a bachelor’s, 2 years for a master’s, only then you can start pursuing a phd.
I graduated in 2005, and back then we had a different system, where I did a single 5 year program for a computer science degree (engineering), that today is the equivalent of a master’s (diplom engineer). I could have continued to go for a dedicated master’s, another 2 years, but I got lazy.
In Germany you can officially start a phd program with a bachelor’s, and I assume it’s the same all over Europe, since the degrees are supposed to be compatible.
No one does it without a master’s, and no prof will accept you into a phd program without one, but theoretically on paper it’s not needed.
I came from a very large lab; 18 post-docs, and half a dozen grad students. The general observation about the PhD portion of the MD/PhD program is that it tends to be very programmatic research. Typically applying a known technique to a neglected but not novel area. The straight PhDs had much higher expectations for novelty and depth. The MD/PhDs were out in three and the PhDs were five to six.
Today she’s looking to stress cells in a lab to promote a mis-folded protein response that mimics how it happens in the body. At least that’s how far my IT guy understanding goes. She’s found herself running a BSL 3 lab working with nasty micro organisms and that is not her field. It’s just the path her research lead he down.
There are roughly speaking two kinds of systems. The kind of system where Bachelor is the default degree you get from university, and you can go on to get a Masters and/or a doctorate. And the other kind of system where the default university degree is a combined Bachelor and Masters, and you can study further to get a doctorate. The latter kind is in use in a lot of continental Europe, at least.
Near miss. GIMP on Ubuntu, and the emojis originate from here. Just for fun I tried to match the gradient of the image featured in the article, instead of pasting the emojis one by one.
Lol had the same experiance with a guy called stamets . He didn’t believe i was a psychologist because “i wrote like a teenager” like english isn’t my first language bruh i am tring here alright just cut me some slack . And then the mod went and deleted my post because i was “harrasing” people to be fair to the mod i was but so was they like i bet the stamet kid could never speak my first language like i speak english .
Okay but setting aside the details of the truth about language, having a degree should not give you or anyone carte blanche (definition: “complete freedom to act as one wishes or thinks best”) to harass strangers on the internet. I know nothing of the incident you referred to, only what you said here. Also btw I did not down-vote you.
Regardless of whether a mod is a literal child or not, that is the “role” that they have stepped up to fulfill - to be a curator of whatever community, or instance, or whatever - and should that not deserve at least a modicum of respect? i.e., if you stepped up to fulfill that role for your own community, wouldn’t you want people to respect you in turn? From your words, you obviously do, so why not offer it preemptively?
Especially as a psychologist: you better than most people know that you get what you give, especially when dealing with children.
They likely were saying that the truth of whether you were a psychologist or not was irrelevant, what matters was you breaking the rules of that community - b/c at some point, if truth is functionally indistinguishable from a lie, then does it matter, practically speaking?
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this food for thought:-).
Cool, so what’s your point? Why would they assume you’re anything but another “guy on the Internet”? For what it’s worth, i have a hard time believing you’re a medical professional too
My point being this is what the meme being about 🤦 and frankly i don’t care what you think i shared my experience because this is lemmy and that is what it is for.
There is some field dependency - mathematics is notoriously fast. The other one I talk about below is the PhD portion of an MD/PhD. In some fields (mine included) there’s 2 years of coursework plus lab research so it was heavily results driven.
I dunno how, but my brother got his PhD in three years and was a doctor by the age of 21. Yes he was pretty smart to begin with, but he really did it in record time. I don't think it would be the same today, I think requirements have changed a lot since then.
Facebook the product is still called Facebook, Google the product is still called Google. It’s only the parent companies that changed their names, their products kept the same branding.
Twitter the product has been, or is being, rebranded as X along with the company.
Thanks! Heading out for my first 30+ miler in a bit. Doing the physical therapy exercises required after being hit by cars in the past on my bike. The random encouragement is appreciated!
Oh, yeah, I know how emojis work using unicode, I just didn’t bother to attach an image of the Samsung 😬 emoji for laziness reasons (I myself don’t have a Samsung Smartphone either.)
I’m sorry, I should have done that, now I have made myself look like a fool :')
Haha no problem. We all are nerds around here, otherwise we’d probably be using Instagram and TikTok (and Reddit).
Funny back story: I first learned about Unicode around 2013 - 15 (I always judge those wrong in terms of when I started using certain apps/sites)… Back then people would start commenting shit on YouTube using emoji but Firefox hadn’t introduced emoji support yet, causing them to be displayed as Unicode strings which lead to comments looking like this: “Hahaha, haven’t laughed like this in ages U+1F602 Best video ever U+2764”
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