There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

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recursive_recursion , to games in Day 50 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

ayyy great game✨

I’ve probably sunk several years into this

Unforeseen ,

Me too, over 1400 hours. I use a lot of mods. I take a break for a year or more at a time and then get hooked again. I’m trying to wait for the NPC update until I do again

Gradually_Adjusting , to lemmyshitpost in No Liberals allowed 😤
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Breaking: Actual irony was spotted on Lemmy, if it sees its own shadow we’ll get six more weeks of summer 🫡

dwindling7373 , to newcommunities in SponsorBlock (and DeArrow) - SponsorBlock is a crowdsourced extension to skip sponsor segments in YouTube videos; DeArrow is a crowdsourced extension to replace titles and thumbnails on YouTube video

Daily reminder that SponsorBlock, unlike adiacent solutions (Like AdBlocks for example) is not necessarily “good”.

Explicit sponsorship inside a video is considered to be one of a few good solution to the issue of content creators being naturally subjected to death by starvation.

lime ,

advertising is emotional manipulation that i do not wish to be subjected to when not actively seeking it out. doesn’t matter if it’s done out of necessity, give me as a viewer a way to support you directly if that’s the situation.

dwindling7373 ,

It does matter and most people obviously give you ways to directly support them.

lime ,

and i pay those people if i engage with their creations. i still get ads in their videos, so i use sponsorblock.

dwindling7373 ,

No you don’t.

lime ,

my patreon bill is about $100 a month, so yes i do

jimmydoreisalefty OP ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

IMO: Ads are ads, even if they come from the creator themselves.

People will support them if they can and if they want to.

Many ways to support them, direct funding, talking about them, making communities, and other stuff.

dwindling7373 ,

That’s not your opinion. Ads are, indeed, ads.

Not all ads are invasive soul seeking tracking nightmares and no, there are not “many ways” for content creators to do that full-time.

jimmydoreisalefty OP ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not your opinion.

Okay.

Not all ads are invasive soul seeking tracking nightmares

Ads are ads; it doesn’t matter if they are “good” or “bad,” unless you want to watch them like most people do because they don’t mind or they don’t know how to block them.

no, there are not “many ways” for content creators to do that full-time.

If they do not get the engagement or funds they need, they will either paywall or find other ways to support themselves; or they will just not make it on YouTube or streaming, like many people before them, unless they continue to fight on while learning and failling.

This reminds me of some small business talks; it is a harsh capitalistic world; you give up or keep trying.

I still say grassroots funding and support is the way to go if they are just doing it for the hobby or for what they believe.

dwindling7373 ,
jimmydoreisalefty OP ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

TIL, cool for them.

I use other YT forks and systems that already implement similar techniques even if they are “good” or “bad” ads.

I am also for Sailing the High Seas.

We have a difference in opinion on this matter, but thanks for the small chat and the link!


This is the section you are talking about:

SponsorBlock

This year, a developer worked on implementing support for SponsorBlock in NewPipe. SponsorBlock is a crowd-sourced database listing sponsored sections in videos, which are automatically skipped by clients such as web browsers, using extensions.

While SponsorBlock’s implementation apparently takes care to preserve user privacy (you can, e.g., download the entire database for offline use, and its regular querying system is also well made), it targets an ethical advertising system. Its purpose is to help users, who probably don’t realise that sponsorship is one of the most ethical ways to fund their favorite content, automatically skip sponsored sections of videos.

Morally, it’s a very questionable system. Of course, some sponsoring may be of little relevance to the user, or maybe even intrusive or hidden. But SponsorBlock doesn’t differentiate between ethical and unethical advertisements. It just skips all kinds of sponsored sections.

Limfjorden ,
@Limfjorden@feddit.dk avatar

Explicit sponsorship inside a video is considered to be one of a few good solution to the issue of content creators being naturally subjected to death by starvation.

It’s better on the issue of tracking, but if one is just an opponent of ads in general, there is no difference.

I would rather pay someone than watch ads (which I do if I watch their content regularly). I subscribe to Nebula, where a lot of the creators I watch post their videos. I also support some through Patreon. I wish there was a way to pay for just a single video, since some creators only occasionally produce videos I want to watch.

Ads promote overconsumption, and I don’t think anyone should be forced to see them, unless they want to. Also, the sponsors are always the same 10 shitty companies (Betterhelp, Raid Shadow Legends, NordVPN…). I don’t care for these companies, so why should I be forced to watch ads for them?

dwindling7373 ,

I wish there was a way to pay for just a single video

There totally is, just send them a low amount of money or do the hwole Youtube Premium thing.

BaroqueInMind ,

No, no, no.

Fuck ads in any form, and fuck you for trying to normalize/justify them.

dwindling7373 ,

Well, fuck you as well :)

BaroqueInMind ,

We have so much in common!

rglullis ,
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

Oh, I guess I’ll bite…

If ads are not acceptable ever, please tell me how you think people should be supported.

  • Crowdfunding is not enough.
  • The culture is to reject any type of business, even when it’s a small mom-and-pop shop, or an indie dev.
  • Co-ops could work, but (usually) require some level of affinity between the members (e.g: people from the same geographical region or artists working on some specific style/school) or they require some rich benefactor to bootstrap the venture.

Unless you are expecting people to just provide you free content forever, what do you suggest?

BaroqueInMind ,

You don’t see open source platforms and software advertise everywhere, do you?

rglullis ,
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

How is that an answer to my question?

BaroqueInMind ,

The answer to your question is the implied answer you can gleam from my rhetorical reply by comparing how free open source platforms such as Wikipedia and Mozilla operate. If you had any reading comprehension or critical thinking skills you wouldn’t have needed to ask (hint: my non-sequitur implies I have a weak argument).

DarkThoughts ,

Advertisement made YT a whoring fest where content does not matter and is only used to bait people into clicking your video so that the creators get money. That's the primary purpose of YT nowadays, and it fucking sucks. I'm not gonna support that shit.

dwindling7373 ,

My brother in Christ, being watched is the goal of any content creator, that’s unrelated to advertisements. Now Youtube ads are paid (lets simplify a bit) blindly once you click the video, it’s a metric, you see those if you want access to the video.

If the content of the video has the guy saying “thanks xyz for sponsoring this raid shadow legends” that’s a contract between the guy doing the video and the sponsor, following metrics agreed between themselves, it has no ties with “the purpose of youtube” simply because… it’s not youtube.

Will there be people doing cheap content to get “easy” sponsor money? Sure but if the content suck you won’t watch it. It’s a loss just like if the motetization was following any other driver (as long as the driver is… watching the thing rather than not).

DarkThoughts ,

it has no ties with "the purpose of youtube" simply because... it's not youtube.

It's literally hosted and watched on YT my guy. Without YT the video would not exist, without YT the video would not be watched, without YT the video would not even get created, and without YT it would not give the creator any way to monetize it - be it through YT ads itself or through external third party sponsoring, which is ultimately completely irrelevant to your counter argument. In the end the videos get made with the purpose of making money off of them, not to provide a potentially interesting video to be shared with others - that's how YT started.

Sure but if the content suck you won't watch it.

I won't, thousands or even millions of others do though, because the average user is about as brain dead as the content nowadays on YT.

dwindling7373 ,

You have a problem with profits, mate, not with ads.

I’m not disagreeing with you there, but also, I like the things I like to exist without waiting for the revolution.

random_character_a , to lemmyshitpost in I've been busy lately
@random_character_a@lemmy.world avatar

No. Beer is the dissolvent. Blood is the paint.

the_beber ,

Paint the world red!

_cnt0 ,
@_cnt0@sh.itjust.works avatar

🎶 I see a black road and I want to paint red 🎶

hOrni , to lemmyshitpost in I've been busy lately

And jail time is the value of the art.

PunchingWood , to games in Day 50 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I’ve been playing until I forget to post Screenshots

Can’t get my friends to ever play this, because they say “it looks like the Sims”. Completely ignoring the insane amount of depth this game has.

Sadly not really a game I wanted to play solo much.

Dagnet ,

Same. The bane of my existence is that the few gamer friends I got only play online board games together, I need friends to play my co-op stuff with

ChicoSuave ,

Zomboid started as a Sims mod that has taken on its own world and systems. Imagine the Sims, but a zombie simulator with very detailed and in depth health and healing, food and drink cook, crafting, driving, etc.

They aren’t wrong that it looks like the Sims, but that also doesn’t make it easy or boring.

Akasazh , to lemmyshitpost in Checkmate
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

/pedantry

It’s not checkmate then, now it’s it.

Gladaed ,

I See a body check, Mate.

Mrkawfee , to lemmyshitpost in I've been busy lately

This is dark

superkret , to lemmyshitpost in I've been busy lately

Golf
Stella

Sad to see another starving artist

Theme , to lemmyshitpost in Sometimes what a person needs is just...

sao is better than 1 piece

DevilOfDoom ,

ಠ_ಠ

lowleveldata , to lemmyshitpost in No Liberals allowed 😤

Dog boner

Klear ,

I’m calling the police.

Jimbo ,
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

No, you’ll be calling the pawlice for this one

HeyJoe ,

Paw Patrol!

JayJay , to pics in Rainbow Lorikeet

What are the berries it’s chillin’ on?

alphacyberranger , (edited )
@alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works avatar

Are those berries? Looks like flowers to me. Try searching for the flower “Royal Mantle” .

JayJay ,

Yeah on second look theyre flowers. Stoned brain saw the red and thought thats something delicious.

TddW89 , to lemmyshitpost in No Liberals allowed 😤
FelixCress , to lemmyshitpost in I've been busy lately

Actually, you can have one pint and drive so you will be all right mate as long as you stick to what’s on these pictures.

YeetPics , to lemmyshitpost in Oof ouch owie
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Lmao @ “heaven”.

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